Magazines To Get Your SMD Components Organized!

[@RobinReiter]

Many many people have asked me if theses are available for purchase. So I'm currently evaluating injection molding to mass produce these magazines. Would you be interested in buying them for your shop? If so.. how many do you think you need? And what would be a rough price segment you'd be willing to pay? Helps a lot! :)

[@medamarko85]

Hi Robin, did you move in molding direction already? I would be quite interested into it. I would like 20-50pcs for my hobby stuff (some for 0603 and 0402).

[@jmcasler1512]

I too would be interested in purchasing some for my home lab. Probably 40-50 after initial evaluation

[@alanwolfinger8745]

@@jmcasler1512 Guys I've used a trusted partner for over a decade who could probably tool these for $4k per size. Usually purchase 5k at I'm guessing $0.10 or $0.20 ea, so roughly a $1 each. Would there be enough sales to do that? Otherwise I'm going to print some on my resin printer which will print probably 4 or 6 an hour and real smooth.

[@chris.davidoff]

I think $20 would be a more than fair price for something like this and a lot of people would buy it. Say, probably 10 cartridges of some type, and 1 or 2 bases with it.

[@WillianMai]

I'd definitely buy it.. When you make it, please put it on ebay for worldwide shipping. I'd buy many, even if they were not cheap.. Anything cheaper than 3d printing them would be a good deal

[@Fifury161]

Here's a tip - mark the strip red on the last 30 components before feeding them in - that way you'll know it's time to replenish!

[@certified-forklifter]

thanks

[@the_eminent_Joshua_E_Hrouda]

Just like with thermal paper rolls

[@LanesEngineering]

Oh yes I learn Quality Control and this is one of the Kanban concept.

[@riskinhos]

make a digital counter!

[@shiggydiggy7756]

@@riskinhos but how Will you make it count? By clicking on it with your hand or by some kind of a optical sensor?

[@acclymer]

Make a "Window" for the labels. You slide the label into the window instead of sticking it to the part.

[@RobinReiter]

Its really cool to get such a great feedback from you guys. Thanks! Sharing the video on Twitter (@robin7331), Facebook or other media really helps spreading this project. UPDATE: The version with the compliant mechanism design is now released. You can choose between both versions. Their both compatible with the rail. No screws, no springs no assembly. 😊

[@Stefan_Kawalec]

In general: brilliant idea with this type of storage. I have two recommendations. Rather use spring and screw than compliant mechanism. The former solution is more durable. Try using any kind of router or even Dremel-like grinder to plane the surface for sticky tape.

[@Fifury161]

@@Stefan_Kawalec I think the compliant mechanism is a much better idea - no additional assembly required. How durable do you need a dispenser? You can always print another!

[@Stefan_Kawalec]

@@Fifury161 You are right, but I just like things that are durable. Even if there's no real reason for that durability.

[@RobinReiter]

@@Stefan_Kawalec I do agree that the compliant version might loose a bit spring tension over time. I've tried PLA and ABS and both worked just fine. But I of course kept the STL files for the springloaded version on thingiverse so people can pick their preferred choice.

[@witawat]

Sorry i want to know name software or tool at time 0:49 , 1:05 thankyou!

[@Runoratsu]

Cool project, elegant solution, 'clean', well produced video… That's it, it's got all it takes to convince me to subscribe even after just one video.

[@RobinReiter]

Thanks! Glad you liked it :)

[@tinnoc]

Same here well done¡

[@jordanwaeles]

Amazing idea! I too am drowning under little ESD bags and have to search through hundreds of them each time I place a component, so I'm totally considering building that.

[@jmonsted]

For the label issue, better glue might help. For the Brother p-touch series of label printers, you can get "extra strenght adhesive" label rolls. I used those in our datacenter because regular ones tended to fall off after a while on a hot server.

[@RobinReiter]

Good point! I might order a new cartridge. Thanks!

[@iWalkChris]

What a clever way to keep the most commonly used components at your fingertips for hand assembly binning or kitting of parts. Not as big and bulky as an SMD reel, yet din mountable for control on your bench top. Well done!

[@TheAerodromeStudio]

Did you consider designing a slot into the magazine so you can slip a piece of paper in with the details of the SMD stored in it?

[@KidCe.]

Hahaha I had exactly the same thought! Would be really nice for people without a lable printer and makes it easy to change the label

[@DieselRamcharger]

@@KidCe. you misspelled gluestick

[@hyperhektor7733]

sounds like slot-shaming ;D

[@acclymer]

Haha, I guess I should have read the comments before commenting. Great minds think alike.

[@hyperhektor7733]

@@acclymer #metoo ;D

[@mattsains]

Brilliant idea and execution!

[@imabeapirate]

Lovely idea! I may modify to mount to a din rail that I have along my bench, which sit on 3d printed din rail holders.

[@GeertGoossens]

was thinking the same, why design a clipping system that looks like din rail sorta...

[@Vikramslm]

Exactly my thoughts..

[@johnuferbach9166]

are din rails the rails that hold the components in electrical cabinets? (sry, don't know the proper english words yet)

[@Vikramslm]

@@johnuferbach9166 Yes. Electrical components like MCBs and other stuff (Contactors, Relays, Terminal Blocks, etc..) are made Din Rail Mountable.

[@aviramiancovici93]

DUDE YOU ARE A FREAKIN GENIUS. I love it - it's so elegant. I'm sharing the pain of ESD component bags and loose unmarked components.

[@abrahammagnifico9538]

i'm glad that i discovered you !, not like i need what you've just made, it's for the footage, it relax me ,seeing such materials and perfection at work satisfy me, Thanks

[@mundo_electronica]

Wow!! This is a REALLY GREAT IDEA!!! Very good job man 👌🏻

[@veisystems267]

Absolutely brilliant! Solves a number of issues I've had... storing (and being able to quickly locate) small strips of parts, quickly accessing parts (ziplock bags take noticeable time to open and re-close), and having quick access to a handful of parts for a short run of boards. Thank you!

[@76Raby]

Amazing idea and the fact that you shared the fusion files saves a lot of time. Thanks.

[@PJElliot]

Loved the video, and will definitely make some to test. For the labeling I would stick the label to a piece of card and build two grooves into the print which it would hold the card. This would allow it to be changed more easily in the future.

[@guatagel2454]

Thank you! This is a great idea. People like you really makes the word better. La Pachamama will give you a long and prosperous life.

[@tomstern1681]

That's a very nice project and honestly I was looking for something that will help me to manage SMD components for a while now. Thank you for sharing and well done on the elegant design!

[@brainfornothing]

Hey ! We missed you ! Very good idea, Thanks for sharing !

[@nikanetique]

please don't stop. your vids is amazing!

[@CyberAnalyzer]

Absolutely amazing! This video reminded me how much I love engineering! Thumbs up!

[@DavidWatts]

I kinda think trimming the component lead hair would be my favourite bit ;-) They look absolutely great and very useful, well done. The video was really interesting, the foam insert is a great idea.

[@AlbertPhan]

Great improvement over the original design. I really like the holders clamping into the rail. Thanks for sharing the parametric designs also!

[@nullpointerworks4036]

Stumbled on the MaxInt version as well. I really like your design. Ill be making these for my workbench. Thanks a lot.

[@MaxintRD]

Hi Robin, very nice design and a great video as well. They look well suited for the paper resistor strips as well. BTW: I often use PVC glue with PLA prints. It can be used for repairs but also for smoothing or for filling a transparent hole to let a LED shine through. Thank you for mentioning me and the original design. I didn't know of your channel, but Unexpected Maker notified me and so I just subscribed. Noticed that I have some catching up to do, watching your other videos, but I'm already looking forward to see more great things!

[@RobinReiter]

Nice to see you here! I was searching for a twitter handle but I didn't find anything. Thats actually a good tip to use PVC glue. Might try that. :)

[@MaxintRD]

@@RobinReiter - Nah, no twitter or FB for me... You can find my e-mail and GitHub via my channel page though. See kzbin.info

[@RobinReiter]

@@MaxintRD Subbed :)

[@sysghost]

My idea for the labels: Having a track or slot where one slide the labels in without the need to stick them down. Seen it in many other products so one can easily change labels when needed.

[@CNCDude]

Brutally awesome! Considering the ridiculous headache I go through pretty much weekly, I feel like a fool for not thinking in such an astounding solution. Thanks for sharing man; great project!

[@edgarwideman737]

They might not be for everyone. But 100% for me. THANKYOU!

[@zbigniewlipinski2963]

Ingenious ideas seem simple and obvious - but not until someone stumbles upon them. Here not only the idea but also the implementation is perfect. As an R&D engineer dealing all the time with non-production quantities of SMD elements I would love to have them organized in such nice dispensers but nothing like that seems to be commercially available. Maybe you would want to consider filling that niche on the market, maybe together with some plastic processing company.

[@Factory400]

I am in LOVE with this idea! I have about 500+ unique component types on my prototype shelf - all in bags. Genius!

[@ESZ2copyright]

I would try to bpt in on an iron for ironing clothes and “melt” it flat :)

[@hardwarehacks541]

I have been making my own PCB's at home, 2-sided up to 16cm sq, +/-0.25mm accuracy. I'm working on a tutorial so others can do this with their 3D printers. Thank you for the redesign, it is well thought out.

[@mart-w]

I really hope you patented this design. I can absolutely see components being sold in dispensers like this.

[@MicroTypeEngineering]

Well they already are sold in things like this. Full reels, for use on pick and place machines. People buying cut tape parts is too small of a market to warrant something specific for them. Super cool implementation this is for sure!

[@LukePettit3dArtist]

I've tried to adhere self adhesive neoprene and self adhesive eva foam to 3d prints along with contact adhesive and I'm now pretty sure that it isn't the layers preventing adhesion but instead something in pla that is being released from the corn starch material. Its like a built in silicone like substance in the pla. The coating you used works to prevent this from happening but I would like to see how they work after some time. Lovely design thought process behind your version. Standing on the shoulders of others and not being lazy or seeing a better way, is the thing that I enjoy most about practical 3d printing, designing. Great job.

[@Nitrixflare]

Love how clean your work is. Well done!

[@3amali1]

I respect open source projects, but many companies will find this very useful so you and the person who had the original idea should have patented this! Anyway as this now out for the public it's worth adding to it. Probably making the whole thing with PLA as it is springy, so no need for external sprint. Love ur work

[@rhythmhappenings3578]

Just printed 2 dozen of these out of PETG. The labels seem to do better with it as it has higher surface energy than PLA. Great design!

[@maxp2862]

Now the SMD can occupy the same space as the conventional, nice!

[@wizrom3046]

Really clever idea and nicely refined implementation! 👍 My suggestion for the labels is to add a slot to slide in a small piece of clear 1mm thick acrylic, the label can go under it. That also makes the label wipe-able if it gets solder flux spatter etc.

[@baschz]

Even though this is not something I have any need for in my workspace I definitely recognize a nice and smart design when I see it. Great worrk. Loved seeing your design process. BTW Some clear coat spray paint after sanding brings back the colour as well.

[@zelimirfedoran9720]

You've got access to a lot of really nice tools, I'm a bit jealous! I expect to see many more videos involving PCBs, 3d prints, and steal fabrication. Subbed.

[@another1commenter770]

embed a GDEW0213T5 paper ink display into the top, then you dock it to change the labels display. you would need to make a dock station but as E-paper will keep its displayed picture until powered and refreshed it means the smd cartridge only needs a display module and no other components.

[@adamcordingley2572]

I've been thinking for some time now about how I could organize all my smd components, and I think I've just found the answer! Thank you for this amazing work!

[@goom1001]

A small layer of cheap 2 part epoxy will do the trick. Nice desine that will help a lot of ppl in SMD PCBs

[@aaroncake]

Very well done! Absolutely my next thing to print.

[@SiliconGoose]

Definitely a useful idea. Going to print a few of these. Might try to adapt to din rail mounting too.

[@GaborGubicza]

Hi Robin, outstanding job. Congratulations!

[@joeles69]

after looking at this i have 3 comments, using a Din-Rail would make for less 3d printed parts, and you can bolt it to the bench or print legs for it, the second comment, remove the need for spring and nut to hold it in place to reduce the BOM costs, 3rd comment add a small guide to stop the strip winding out. I love the ideas you have here... subscribed!

[@bytesizedengineering]

I LOVE this idea. I would like to make some. Thanks for sharing!

[@VectorNodes]

Hey I use a plastic welding iron on low power with a flat tip to smooth down surfaces a lot to skip the rougher half of sanding bc I finish little figurines and stuff like that. I bet using an iron or something flat would evenly make a good taping surface if you have a lot of them to do. A little tin molded corner and a ceramic heating element that heats and cools quickly if you're ambitious

[@4.0.4]

Such a great video! Great idea, great execution, great editing. And having the files to print is nice! You're going to get a lot more subs.

[@RobinReiter]

Chrysippus thank you!

[@theelectronwrangler6416]

These are really cool. I think I'll stick with the binder sleeves for mine, but if I did something that used the same components often, I could see these being very useful in a shop putting out more than a PCB every once in a while like mine.

[@alanwolfinger8745]

Nicely done video! Love your shop too!

[@dominikworkshop6007]

That's a great design! I printed quite a lot of them, and to stick the label i just put some glue stick on the magazine, and it works great.

[@TheFootbaldd]

Oh man I need to implement this in my lab when time allows. I have wasted countless hours sorting through the box of parts, or even the parts trays for single smd parts. Thanks for the idea.

[@1kreature]

Printable lids + a dissicant bag in the middle and they will be easier to solder after a few months. Otherwise, awesome idea! Beautifully done!

[@RollinShultz]

As an ex engineer, I like the design and your thought process.

[@matrixfire]

Not something I need personally but the idea is awesome. Great work 👍

[@LordPhobos6502]

If you sold these online, people WILL buy them. Not everyone has a 3D printer, but these are GREAT!

[@kedarprabhudessai]

Brother you are awesome... Great great idea.. no one thought of this before so beautifully. Keep it up,👏👏 impressed. You are kind enough to share project files also 👍 ......thanks Btw you got a new subscriber just now 😃

[@illyau]

Wow! Great idea, will give this a try!!

[@anothervoyager9654]

Instead of gluing the label, you could make a slot on top of the part and slide the labels inside it, I've done this with some 3d printed organizers and it's easy and fast.

[@MG-hf1mo]

Not sure what the clear coating is made of. I usually use a two component epoxy resin to smoothen prints. You can also add color pigments to match the color of the filament. I currently use a combination of reels (common parts like 0, 100, 10k, 100n, etc) and sample books for other values. I may give your SMD organizers a try.

[@feketeimre573]

I use cellular polycarbonate sheets cut up to appropriate sizes. SMD strips fit into the cells nicely.

[@theactualduck]

You can always use a paste type filler (or putty), the kind you can apply with a spatula. It's also quite useful if you want to blend gaps or miss aligned parts.

[@riakata]

Yeah after watching the video the first thing I thought of is this is perfect for a flexture and you seem to have realized that as well. On the label side I'd keep it simple and just get a better label stock with industrial strength adhesive and or a thicker adhesive layer that could stick to uneven surfaces. Compared to painting/sanding/treating many of the cheap parts it saves a ton of time at a relatively low cost. For this part you would want a whole mountain of them and would probably add more and different sizes with time so just getting suitable label stock would save a lot of time. Painting can also make a mess and takes time to cure fully. Sticking labels on "dry" paint that hasen't cured or bonded well to the PLA will end with a single use paint coating. Most labels are not rated to be safely removed from painted surfaces without lifting the paint. An easier solution if you don't have proper labels is just use gluestick (PVA) as it certainly will bond to the PLA and generate a flat layer you can stick your label on afterwards. Even if the label lifts the glue up on removal it is easy and cheaper to use a glue stick most 3d printer's should have near them as well.

[@michael_anton]

A technique I use to clean up the sanding marks on PLA, is to flame polish the surface with a torch. I have a small butane torch that works well for this. The trick is that you have do to it very quickly, and not heat the PLA up too much, or it will deform. A number of lighter passes, with time to cool off in between them seems to work well.

[@abhijitrashinkar]

Hello! Very happy to see your work, cheers...

[@wilman_studio]

From a random thingiverse explore to a new sub, nice one for the parts and vid :)

[@AlexWhittemore]

This is just such good work. So simple, so useful. I’d love a kickstarted injection molded version, since I’m almost certain to use this for a serious project in the future, but won’t want to spend the time printing them. I’d pay at least $5/unit sold in packs of 10-20-30 with rails.

[@agapiosagapiou]

Brilliant project. It have endless uses!!

[@bloodb0ne]

Amazing, now thats a really useful thing to have when making small batches of pcb`s or even just storage really compact

[@CozzyKnowsBest]

Dude, amazing. Well done and thanks for putting this out there.

[@grzegorzkolbrecki8344]

I had made similar boxes from CD cake boxes. Cheap, nothing fall outside, you can write on them with marker and they stack on each other. Just cut a notch on the side of cake box and it's done ;)

[@kdiggity11]

Great job, awesome idea. Just finished printing one out and it works great.

[@rikilshah]

Awesome project. Exactly what I was thinking of but you did it in much much better way!

[@geekoid183]

It would be nice to see a version with a fully 3d printed compliant mechanism on the latching system instead of the more conventional screw + spring. Curious about the durability and the added benefit of easier manufacturing and assembly !

[@geekoid183]

Also for the label problem you could just drip a drop or two of cyanoacrylate glue. Maybe the bond strength is enough to compensate for the uneven surface. If not, go with the epoxy way. A little bit messy and overkill for one label at a time but really affective for sure. A nicer way would be a temporary bond so you can repurpose old trays. Maybe by adding a little 3d printed feature to the design for the label to slide in on the side of the tray ? So your not limiting the length of the label.

[@RobinReiter]

Fully agree with the compliant mechanism. I might give it a shot. In terms of labeling I already tried glueing a piece of stick type to the surface so the sticky tape itself is used as labeling surface. Did not look very nice to be honest.

[@nirodper]

@@RobinReiter I don't think pla is very appropriate for compliant mechanisms, maybe abs or something else

[@reaktoringhd]

Maybe use some foil and an soldering Iron for creating an Pocket for Standard Paper Strips....

[@curly_luke]

@@nirodper PETG would be pretty good for that

[@HB-ps6rn]

I use an gorilla glue for PLA parts and it works really well because it expands into the gaps. It can also push parts out of place with the expansion so its important to clamp them

[@corydiehl764]

Life saver bro. I just started making my own boards and was looking for a solution to this

[@JohnAllen-st1ll]

Nice..!! Big thanks for your time spent on this great design for the benefit of all..!!

[@e1ghthree]

Miss your content! Welcome back :D

[@JessicaRyan7of9]

Really awesome idea. As regards to the clear coat top coat. you could use something like clear coat for nail varnish. This is also called top coat for nail varnish.

[@frigzy3748]

Awesome idea and execution - thanks! Brady sells high adhesive nylon labeler tapes. That should stick to the print dead solid. Only question - what will happen when there is just a short piece of a tape? Say last 20 resistors? Won’t it get loose and fall out of the holder?

[@frigzy3748]

I just printed my magazines and I had no problems with the labels. They stuck to the 3d print rock solid - no chance of them coming off. Actually, it's really hard to remove a label once applied, so I had to be careful and get it right from the first time. The labeler I used is Brady BMP21-PLUS and the cartridge is "Black on White Nylon Cloth 3/8". The settings are "Banner Portrait, Horizontal Text, 9pt Bold". I also modified the holder a little bit - removed all the extra material and added a cover, so tape is not falling out of it. Again, thanks for the amazing design and inspiration!

[@Lrzingano]

A clear window would also be nice on those. Another idea id to use velcro to stick the base on place when needed, maybe also magnets? there are many possibilities =)

[@hermanoguimaraes]

Very nice, thanks for sharing your work.

[@csmole1231]

this is so cool I wanted to cry😂!

[@mohamedlanjri]

Thanks for sharing that incredible solution!!!

[@dimgwolukze140]

Really helpful, I solder small pcb at home and have to keep many boxes for different components

[@kubalolm.3405]

Wow, man this is soo great! Brilliant idea

[@KentHambrock]

You sir, are a saint.

[@bobpospick1649]

Awesome design to a real problem! Thanks for sharing! This single part will be the reason to finally go out and buy a 3D printer. Can't wait to get started. But what printer to buy? What are you using?

[@johnuferbach9166]

i heard Ender 3 is cheap and ok for beginners

[@bobpospick1649]

@@johnuferbach9166 Thanks for the tip ... but just bought a Prusa Mk3 based on auto leveling, heated/flexible bed, and tech support. My first parts will be Robin's SMT cartridge. Can't wait!

[@TheDeveloperGuy]

The idea is really 10/10, just one thing: why print a rail? May I modify it for DIN rail mount?

[@TomislavDarlic]

Brilliant idea. I have only one thing to complain about. I do a lot of manual assembly. Sometimes 100s of boards at the time with 100+ components each. The way components are stored they are way off the table too high. Your arm would start to hurt after few hours of picking the components from this high. But this is excellent idea. I'll do a respin of your design with the tape sticking from the bottom of the case....

[@RobinReiter]

100s of boards is awesome. I guess you're going more towards a pick and place machine. This project is meant for hobby usage when doing a couple of boards :) Feel free to modify the design!

[@TomislavDarlic]

@@RobinReiter I own modified Liteplacer pick and place and CHMT48VB. Up to 50 boards I will place by hand faster that I set up Liteplacer machine. I'll have my spin on your design... I tend to buy full reels but the rest is scaterred in different boxes and bags...

[@greekstraycats]

Klasse Idee. Gefällt mir gut. Kannst die nicht aber einfach auch mittels Spraydose einfärben (anstatt dem Klarlack) - und hast damit automatisch eine stabile Fläche für die Aufkleber? Würde mir nämlich mehr farben wünschen: Rs, Cs, Dioden, Transistoren, MPSFETs usw mit jeweils anderer Farbe.

[@Alan_Hans__]

Absolutely brilliant and great video production. I'm going to have to see if I can con a mate to print some stuff for me. Aquadhere/wood glue would potentially work for smoothing the surface. It dries glossy and clear and it's cheap and very readily available.

[@philh5829]

...an excellent idea, thanks for sharing

[@DDas-yi6jr]

Brilliant design, you are good

[@Ardren]

Not really a pretty solution, but double sided foam tape is really good for rough surfaces. I also have a feeling that plain-old paper labels/stickers would adhere a lot better than tape from a label printer.

[@michaelreynolds9055]

try ironing the last layer in the gcode this will smooth out the top layer. Ironing on a 3d printer is Ironing basically just runs the nozzle across the surface after printing, with no extrusion, using a smaller line width so it does more passes, literally melting the top flat. A rounded surface is made up of multiple layers, and the nozzle can't go back down to iron it