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[@Fishingworth]

no, rarran. You gotta show him the clip of Day9 saying, "Hearthstone is a wonderful game where you play a deck of 29 cards and Dr Boom." I was waiting for that clip to play.

[@nathbalzana]

If someone has that clip, please reply with the link, I'd love to see it

[@athath2010]

@@nathbalzana youtube will block their post if they include a link in it

[@StormLord94]

That was legit had it was back then. You'd open the deck builder, put in a Boom and then think what deck you're gonna build

[@EANTYcrown]

​@@StormLord94it was worse than that, you add boom and big game hunter for the boom that you knew for a fact everyone else had, probably two bgh if you could to ensure you had him on turn 7. It got to a point where 10% of your deck was predetermined just because of Dr balanced.

[@doublejesusful]

@@EANTYcrown Tempo BGH was a meme during this era xD

[@WavemasterAshi]

"You could get anything..." "You could even get a Mesa Falcon!" "...Shut up."

[@1Henrink]

I wonder which voice line was heard the most by HS players: "Hey everyone get in here" or "My jaws that bite, my claws that catch".

[@eliasschmidt5969]

I think it‘s „common“

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

​@@eliasschmidt5969 The Innkeeper only says "common" when it's golden, so it's actually probably "rare"

[@eliasschmidt5969]

@@PenguinWithInternetAccess yeah, u r right i forgot

[@bobinard9759]

well, shudderwock has been very good in wild since its release, and grim patron warrior has been unplayable since the warsong nerf, and even after the unnerf, was still pretty weak. So deffinitly shudderwock

[@solkvist8668]

Definitely heard shudder way more, that thing has plagued wild since it’s release

[@KulveTarothsNightGown]

it was in fact *the grand tournament*

[@phillipjones1536]

11:46 bro literally came up with shadowboxer on the spot

[@g59boycross45]

I was thinking barrens xyrella when I heard it but shadowboxer fits so much more

[@mawillix2018]

Extra trivia for MFG: Antique Healbot is a pun on Anti-Kill Bot.

[@Earzentail]

damn, that's actually pretty cool, I never even thought about it after playing the game since 2014

[@GamePlayMetal]

Mind = blown

[@zephyrfyr]

Ben brode himself said that this was just a coincidence and not an intentional pun

[@mawillix2018]

@@zephyrfyr I can't seem to find where Ben Brode said so. But I found out that Loatheb is intentionally an anagram of healbot.

[@zephyrfyr]

Hearthstone wiki page for antique healbot ​scroll down to the references section (can't send link on KZbin) @@mawillix2018

[@Sdogofdoom]

Big thing on unstable portal was that sometimes you played it turn 2, got a rate 6 or 7 drop, and just absolutely dunked the next turn. Like imagine turn 2 unstable into turn 3 boulderfist ogre, suddenly the opponent is just getting smashed.

[@JonaxII]

Now THAT'S good stats for the cost.

[@cuthraxyspiano3271]

Also flamewaker was a thing, cheap spells very nice

[@Laezar1]

Also mage has spell synergies so it basically allowed you to get a minion with the "spell" tag on it. The extra mana cost reduction makes up for the inconsistency so what you're getting out of it is playing a spell without reducing your minion density

[@MyHydralisk]

@@cuthraxyspiano3271 This. That and the fact you discounted spells. By 'default' portal is kinda meh card, it does not provide nearly enough tempo to justify the slot in tempo-mage. I feel like Rarran really miss the opportunity to properly explain why certain cards was so strong in certain meta.

[@laurelkeeper]

ENGAGING TC-130 MENTAL DISLOCATOR

[@LizardDude]

aaaaaaand I just lost my Arena match :

[@Run2Seeun]

"You cant hear text, you read it" The text:

[@blushingralseiuwu2222]

​@@Run2Seeunthe voice aaaaa

[@greenglade47]

It's crazy to see how good CGB has gotten at rating Hearthstone cards now, he nailed it in this one

[@AndrewSlee9]

He’s learned so much about the game it brings a smile to my face

[@otsokarhu9695]

I think you mean MFG

[@Davidbruun]

What? He was wrong so many times.

[@colboy1fish]

It was wild to me he got healbot right. It is joked so much that healing is bad in magic that I figured he'd just go "oh 5 mana do nothing"

[@pairot01]

When the Mesa Falcon guy tells you mtg has more bad cards, you should believe him.

[@matthewgagnon9426]

MTG has more bad cards than Hearthstone has cards.

[@Flamingcloud083]

@@matthewgagnon9426 MTG has more cards that are unplayable in draft (the lowest power format) than Hearthstone has cards.

[@Laezar1]

@@Flamingcloud083 MTG has more cards that even new players will realize are unplayable than heartstone has cards

[@cameronroberts4296]

Hearthstone didn’t have Fallen Empires and homelands.

[@xRoGeSx]

Finally two of my favorite middle aged man wail at each other with their card game knowledge

[@shrekkek9396]

​@JamesCastle-vd1lcyes. Life ends at 40.

[@xRoGeSx]

@JamesCastle-vd1lc Just meming here 🙃

[@Dragostorm21]

@JamesCastle-vd1lc the middle ages were like 600 years ago yet the world is much older. clearly middle means nothing

[@pepper7880]

@JamesCastle-vd1lc CGB is actually 40 :'D

[@giovannicurotto5134]

​​​@@pepper7880 CovertOldBlue

[@lesiegelad]

THEY'RE BACK AT IT AGAIN LET'S GOOOO. I love the dynamic between Rarran and CGB. I could listen to these guys talk cards every day.

[@Omega068]

I admit I actually don't play Hearthstone anymore, but you're content about it is really fun to watch! Edit: 2:00 Oh no I can still hear that thing in my mind.

[@exantiuse497]

I haven't actively played the game since around 2016 (I dipped i to the skmingle player stuff and Tavern brawl in 2017). It is very intesresting watching them talk about this old stuff since to me it is what Hearthstone was right when I was playing

[@MrElliotholman]

I've watched CGB for a long time and have recently discovered Rarran, love these collabs, you two have great chemistry and the vids are fire and so enjoyable. Also love the CGB comes on and admits he's watched the 2014 finals and honestly trys to figure out the meta, no staged BS just quality content and analysis with fun jokes. Love it man

[@ionut.h1525]

Dude..i can't express how much i like this kind of content. Both on Rarran's channel and on CGB's . I don't play HS anymore, but those videos are absolute gems for the comunity

[@input-latency2684]

good job mesa falcon guy, you got on the thumbnail very good

[@arkorat3239]

This combines my two favorite videos. Reminiscing about hearthstone history, and people i have never heard of rating cards they have never seen. Great stuff!

[@NeighborhoodJackson]

ive been watching so much CGB despite not knowing a lick of anything about MTG, he's a really fun content creator to watch and i love that rarran continues doing videos with him.

[@TheRealGrimpaw]

I'm so happy that the CGB videos are doing so well. This means more content in the future.

[@sanjayhenry5064]

please don't let this series ever end, you guys are always hilarious and entertaining together!

[@BrandinooWOW]

Antique Hellbot printing when??? 5 mana 3/3 Battlecry: Deal 8 damage to the enemy hero

[@eroslampitella2629]

the thing about master jouster is : even if he wins the joust he is just a sunwalker with +1/+1

[@MrParadux]

The format is great. It is also nice seeing you on his channel for the same. I like the categories of judging the cards where they landed in the tournament instead of just "good" or "bad"

[@polterghost_]

Violet Teacher was crucial in token paladin. Zombie was often used in shadow priest when healing was dealing damage instead. Joust was a great mechanic for ramp druid, who also used Astral Communion, because most of your minions cost at least 6 mana.

[@liger04]

29:30 Another really important part of Unstable Portal is that this is one of the first sources of random minion generation in Hearthstone. Because there's very few "vanilla" minions, that means there's a good chance of getting a battlecry or deathrattle. A lot of those cards required playing around. This is where hand prediction went from "they should be out of steam since I played around their best cards" to "it's mage and they casted two portals a while ago, so they could have anything from a uselessly discounted wisp to a 6-mana Jaraxxus. Fingers crossed".

[@zacharyadler4071]

Antique Healbot was named to sound like "Anti-kill bot"

[@AllThingsEntertaining]

Antique Healbot was incredible value at the time. Healing Touch, a Druid exclusive card that saw a little play, costed 3 mana, and for an extra 2 mana you're casting a 3/3.

[@johncarmichael1737]

Antique healbot hands you a healing potion, antique hellbot breaks it over your head

[@wschess]

hell yeah. I need your podcast

[@user-jy3tp8mh7w]

Now i absolutely need to see the vods of ctb watching the 2014 tournament!!! Are they available somewhere?

[@dantelewandoski]

I knew every single cards summon quote thats just how much this took me back: I know hesrthstone is way different but Grim Patron warrior might have been one of if not the most skillful mirror HS ever had

[@gulogulo999]

Fun fact: Dr Boom was so ubiquitous, he was almost more commonly known as Dr Balanced.

[@balintmolnar7471]

How to count hand buff: Exile (x cards from) your hand (face down): You may cast those cards then you cast one of those cards if it's a creature card it enters the battlefield with an additional +1/+1 counter.

[@AntheanCeilliers]

I could watch 100 episodes of this. I love your combined energy.

[@thewerdna]

If I recall, Saraad was occasionally played in Control Warrior too, since they would be hitting their hero power every turn late game anyways and this gave potential value. But it definitely wasn't in the most common version of the deck

[@lillemy5062]

This was the time i played the game. I was almost going to ask if you could make a 2015 vid with covblue xD You're an amazing host, with an amazing guest!

[@cako666]

"Its really good against early gurrrr" My dude's brain had to reset a second there 😂

[@Muhahahahaz]

0:10 NAXX OUT?? PogChamp

[@insomniacnerd5592]

That thumbnail alone made me wanna see this video.

[@yvindlavold5741]

The Grand Tournament really needed some high cost cards that had text like "cost (3) less while in your hand" for jousting to actually work.

[@dassler-sy8dd]

it would have been cool to show him some of the combos or card interactions (Grim Patron combo for example)

[@Harakanis]

As a control warrior enjoyer at the time, and overhyped vor Varian, the card had quite a few issues, the main one that the "put creatures on the field" was actually downside. Creatures were either control pieces with important battlecries or win conditions, you didn't want to just slam them all on the field at random, making Varian's best ability actually it's worst weakness.

[@zurajanaisephirothda3886]

The sad thing in hindsight is that both Inspire and Joust could have been easily fixed. Inspire minions also get the effect as a battlecry and Joust reveals the highest cost cards in both decks and you win when tieing aswell

[@Kei-ye8if]

With a respectable amount of shade to Rarran, CGB is so good at entertainingly blind evaluating cards Rarran is definitely getting the longer end of the stick with these collabs

[@wraith.ferron]

The Mistcaller would kind of work in MTG. You'd just get an ETB get an emblem to give your creatures +1/+1.

[@Turkos245]

"Look at this owl, how is he not a staple" Dudes for sure an azorius player and loves judge's familiar

[@Pltnmangel]

CGB you’ve GOTTA show him splinter twin

[@AidanL17]

You can tell Rarran doesn't play wild when he says things like "Patron Warrior was the best deck of all time."

[@arvsta96]

Ahh Varian is still my fav card, the animation, the voiceline, the stormwind music, best char in warcraft lore imo, if you know, you know

[@blazera]

I remember my first game of hearthstone, opponent turn 1'd astral communion and top drew ysera

[@SCEmissary]

Ahhh, I remember Day9 playing this game, facing opponents who do their combos to get a huge buffed minion or hide behind a thick taunt minion, just to have impish Day9 throw an Owl on the board yelling "Hoot Hoot mothafogga!" and silence it all away. Even if he still lost he had a lot of fun. And we too. :)

[@Preaplanes]

Hungry Dragon was used a lot on ladder in Priest decks.

[@DD-ym3nk]

5:50 it actually made 4 patrons. 2 off of the initial impact, then those 2 each made another one when the ghoul dies

[@jamielattin9182]

It made 3, resulting in you having 4 on board after. You misphrased it.

[@TopHatPenguin]

Bro I unironically STILL run nexus champion in my wild casino deck he was my first ever pack legendary and he’s just great I miss the grand champion stuff and I wish inspire would come back

[@brendanroper3131]

I remember playing a secret paladin deck back in the day, it did indeed run the show

[@awqweird]

If i remember correctly mct started seeing more play later mainly because of spiteful summoner. The deck just needed more curve filling minions because of the deck restriction and i think that meta was just full of go wide decks.

[@cameronhaynes9983]

I think the take on Nexus-Champion Saraad is a bit off, and the Inspire mechanic as a whole. Think of it more as a bonus effect on top of your Hero Power and it becomes a lot better. Tank-Up Warrior wanted to be hitting that button essentially every turn, this card gives you a "Yeti" on top of more cards in hand without drawing. Inspire is a bit of a "Win More" effect, but it's not as bad as everyone seems to think it was

[@dbellgar]

I would be interested to see a flipped script version of this. "What would it take to make this card good, from an outsider's perspective?". Could apply to cards that have been good or bad.

[@georgeedwardes5318]

Violet teacher wasn't good because of oil. It was good because Rogue liked to sit around and then play all it's cards in one turn. Removing the opponents board, while creating one itself. This card was excellent for that. It wasn't popular in the previous meta because if you're playing all your cards with Violet, you're not playing them with Gazetzan. Oil is what tipped it over the top, because you just needed to create a board that could survive 1 turn and the damage from oil was normally enough to secure a win.

[@SketchETech]

@covertgoblue 26:18 Buddy, when we get to where Yogg-saron originally came from, we are going to make you lose it because of a God Damn EYEBALL.

[@Urugosh]

The funny thing is, the grand tournament was a very lackluster patch in World of Warcraft as well. So it's on flavor that it was a bad expansion for Hearthstone.

[@jacobm.7072]

Hitting unstable ghoul would spawn 4 PATRONS

[@timvankoert7702]

37:44 Yes, taunt and divine shield, that is certainly annoying. Now imagine if it was on a cheap, small minion, say, a 2-cost 1/2. Now THAT would be annoying.

[@torbergqvist8151]

No, if you have a Grim Patron and run it into an Unstable Ghoul, you don't get two Grim Patrons. You get three extra.

[@bakyra4683]

Missing out on the trivia that Dr. Boom was called Dr. Seven is saaaad!

[@Miniath]

Worth Noting that Grim Patron warrior was also notoriously one of the hardest decks to play optimally

[@FishyFishy_]

"random spells? God(!) knows whatll happen" hes gonna have a lot of fun with the next expansion

[@superbaas8822]

I 10000% feel the correct nerfs in the Warsong meta were Grim Patron to 4/3 and Beserker to a 4 mana 4/4.

[@JustNinj]

Can’t wait to watch him read Knights of the Frozen Throne and Journey To UnGoro

[@eydie__]

Bummed Rarran didn't explain that Dr. Boom was called Dr. Seven because he was in the seven slot of every deck and was dropped on turn 7 regardless of deck strategy or archetype, or whether you were winning or losing. Turn 7? Play Dr. Boom.

[@murphthasmurf5923]

“It better not be the grand tournament” It was, in fact, the grand tournament

[@Zwijger]

To be fair, Chillwind Yeti was only good because there weren't many broken expansions early on.

[@Sinzari]

It seems like CGB forgot you could play Saraad on 7 to guarantee the random spell, 7 mana draw a card and deal 1 damage with a 4/5 must-kill body is probably on par with, if not better than, Ancient of Lore. Only reason it wasn't better than Lore is the random part, but Ancient of Lore was a nuts card, so a worse version could still be playable. Plus this gets bonus points for being playable on 5 as a 4/5 with super taunt, which could break the camel's back in a tempo deck where you're already ahead on board.

[@satibel]

Astral communion was nicknamed asstral communion in some circles, though it did see some ladder play, it wasn't a great deck. I did have a >50% wr with it, but I had an 80% wr with dragon hunter so it's not a great mark. My deck played astral communion as a cheese, but it was basically a greedy ramp druid with a 30% chance to basically instant win from astral communion on turn 1-4 and a 30% to win off of ramp like wild growth into nourish.just playing regular ramp was better tho.

[@McfcxEz]

Astral Communion gives me tibalts trickery vibes

[@Konannah1337]

Attacking ghoul with Patron results in +3 copies of parton. 1st from damage trade, other 2 from deathrattle AoE

[@justinturner7041]

My one semantic for this, is that it did not feel like they patched nozdormu fast at all.

[@diomed4570]

ye, I was waiting for next collab series!

[@willowytale]

i really liked the grand tournament :( control warrior was quite fun and involved

[@grashoppah]

We cant all be the owl

[@Urugosh]

Also, I can't wait for CGB to see Shudderwock

[@Sonicmaster4]

Rend Blackhand's effect is so bad that it didn't see play even when printed with no condition on a 3 mana 4/2 (Grimtotem Bounty Hunter)

[@dunstonlion1342]

"I don't know what a yugioh does" That's the thing, no one does.

[@danielsolyarikov7908]

I know what it does: It summons the *Pot of Greed* which allows me to draw 3 additional cards from my deck!

[@soliturraldevera1944]

he's actually getting so good at understanding hearstone

[@Bemxuu]

I don’t need to finish watching this to know I will upvote it :)

[@schumerus6786]

Oh yeah, the year with Ungoro and Frozen Throne is amazing

[@jamesseager8126]

U track mist caller in paper like this. ETB you get an emblem with creatures you control get +1/+1

[@caioribeiro5019]

SOO GOOD TO SEE THE DR. SEVEN

[@ReeceyP]

“No way for warrior to cheat mana” Alarm-o-bot erasure

[@Herintruththelies]

I play Magic and Hearthstone and I can assure you, HS has nothing like Homelands.

[@umpatte0]

EVERYONE. GET IN HERE for another hearthstone card rating video!

[@colinfun]

Rarran saying that Astral was bad is just more proof that he is a Warlock, because it was a good card if you knew how to play Druid properly and in my experience Warlock and Druid are Di-pole opposites, if you are great at one, you suck at the other, and I will admit I sucked at Warlock, it took me twice as long to get to level 60 as the next slowest class of the first 9.

[@Skellytoon]

For me the astral communion experience can be summed up by playing it off curve and then top decking innervate and conceding. That card has the lowest of lows.

[@TheClanBlade]

I'm surprised Nexus-Champion Saraad was ever considered good, Babbling book basically does the same thing for 1 mana without inspire and rarely ever sees play.

[@Liamo051]

Babbling book was played in every mage deck back in the day

[@dermegger7733]

I still like to play Astral Communion every now and again. It's pretty fun

[@makepunk5791]

You can hear by his lingo covert's been watching the old firebat vods lol.

[@WickedStyx]

you definitely have to show him moorabi (for the memes) when you get to knights of the frozen throne

[@Knax2500]

„EVERYONE GET IN HERE“: Grim Patron or Soldier Dragon probably

[@chaoskatjes]

1. EVERYONE GET IN HERE 2. wasnt Muklas Champion ( The inspire board buff) partially played in zoo decks? in my memory it wasnt THAT bad as the rest of the tournament^^

[@Talguy21]

So CGB, Yugioh players see "you can Normal Summon a Level 4 or lower monster once per turn!" and then go "ok cool, so I'll do that, also here's like 4 Level 7s that dogpile into a thing that exiles my opponent's everything" Just as an example. c: