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Wintergatan 2

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Marble Machine X Daily #11 - Another Mole infestation. They just keep coming!
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@pilotofjet
@pilotofjet 3 жыл бұрын
Martin, I am studying in aircraft design and one of the thing we learned was that designing something has an iterative process to it. The reason behind that is that you can always refine the design, make it 10%, 5%, 1% better by marginal gains. Although i thought the design of planes was perfect all the way through, my studies showed me that the planes flying nowadays are far from being designed to the perfection. The chief engineers sometimes have to tell their engineers "okay your design might be able to be 2% more efficient if you work for 10 more months but we need to deliver the design next week". I feel like I am seeing a version of that in the MMX project of you trying to make every component of it 100% perfect. It is definitely not a bad thing as you are converging towards the optimal solution but maybe it is sane sometimes to not scrap parts which are 98% perfect to make a 100% version of it. In aviation the rules are written in blood and all the experience gathered by engineers before is put towards the next generation aircraft. For the MMX you are trying to anticipate all the risks and issues but maybe you should try seeing them happen? Finally, i wanted to say that you are assessing the reliability of the MMX only in the funtion "play the marbles" but maybe you should also think about assessing its reliability in the other type of functions such as "being able to compose", "changing the song" and so on. It would be a shame that during the world tour you can reliably play 1000000 marbles but have something that brakes or malfunctions once every 10 song changing. Anyway maybe that could help you! Your work is really inspirational and good luck to you and Wilson ! :)
@Straylight4299
@Straylight4299 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he already has that on his list, hence the steel programming plates with welded on bolts for example. He probably will move on to such tests once all instruments are implemented.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect is the enemy of good. On the MMX, you can see that fixing one issue not only doesn't solve the problem initially, but introduces new problems that didn't exist before. Martin is too focused on getting all aspects perfect forgetting that his design doesn't allow for that. That machine doesn't have any fault tolerance built into it, despite he convincing himself that it is reliable or that will reach a level of reliability that is impossible. He convinced himself he can do that and will most likely spend the rest of his life never achieving that goal.
@ussarng4649
@ussarng4649 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not, ... there are features on the marble machine that allow for composing and changing songs. Also this is the first marble machine of this type, so yeah Martin is really fussing over it, but not over much (in my opinion). At first in reality he was learn how to make a marble machine. Now he knows a lot about how to build a marble machine and is now refining the MMX not so much his building skills. It isn't like there have been such musical instruments for hundreds of years and he is ignoring those and in a manner of speaking trying to "reinventing the wheel". I think it won't be over long until this Marble Machine is done. It being done doesn't preclude the possiblity of later versions being adjusted and tweaked.
@Posiman
@Posiman 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrunodeSouzaLino I believe he has no intention to ever actually finish it. This "engineering youtuber" thing is making him way more money and fame than his music ever did or could. The machine already works pretty fine, so now he's just stalling...
@bjorneolsen5026
@bjorneolsen5026 3 жыл бұрын
@@Posiman That is the most unnecessarily cynical thing I've read today.
@Irnbru_addict
@Irnbru_addict 3 жыл бұрын
Martin whacking the moles in the beginning sounded like the mmx snare.
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 3 жыл бұрын
we're in too deep. everything seems like mmx now
@GreenSkyDill
@GreenSkyDill 3 жыл бұрын
Everything reminds me of her 😔
@Irnbru_addict
@Irnbru_addict 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenSkyDill is she your MM-ex?
@jordonbrewer2354
@jordonbrewer2354 3 жыл бұрын
@@Irnbru_addict Take my like and gtfo.
@Dannerrrr
@Dannerrrr 3 жыл бұрын
yep, it was dubbed!
@z-beeblebrox
@z-beeblebrox 3 жыл бұрын
Martin: I'm not against prototyping a redesign for the divide by 4, but I DO request that you wait until you have most of the channels operational before you actually consider doing it. Because the more channels you have running, the less activity the divide by 4 sees, and I suspect that a fully operational MMX will use that function very little. So the problems it's causing now might be an overrepresentation of how "fragile" it is
@claytonfs
@claytonfs 3 жыл бұрын
This! He should stop focusing on problems that may not be problems when the machine is being used as intended.
@YeaSeb.
@YeaSeb. 3 жыл бұрын
in fact, the marble test should end with a different rating for every part depending on how overestimated their testing will be. Like how the marble drops and funnels for the 4 channels he has working and the divide by 4 are doing more work than the mable divider in these test compared to an actual song with all channels enabled.
@dovayaj9023
@dovayaj9023 3 жыл бұрын
With the current tube configuration at the top, it seems as though the early vibraphone channels receive marbles only from the divide-by-4. While this shouldn't create a marble supply issue if the other instruments don't play too much, I just wanted to put it out there that the divide-by-4 will need to function quite a bit to supply the vibraphone.
@robertcarlson8867
@robertcarlson8867 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with Martin on this one. You can't design just for the average case; you need to cover all the edge cases you can too. If there's a song that has, say, a long bass solo, these issues could definitely pop up again with the divide-by-4.
@TheJohnreeves
@TheJohnreeves 3 жыл бұрын
I had a big paragraph explaining why you're wrong, but I argued myself to the point that I agree. I guess the function of the divide by four is to have marbles circulating as soon as the song starts. If the main divider holds enough, that shouldn't be necessary.
@willhart2188
@willhart2188 3 жыл бұрын
Divide by 4 did work really well on previous tests even when you played the machine for hours. It'd be sad to see it go.
@YourSweatyUncle
@YourSweatyUncle 3 жыл бұрын
With like 3 channels yes. It needs to feed like 40
@1kleineMax1
@1kleineMax1 3 жыл бұрын
@@YourSweatyUncle No it doesnt, the divide by 4 is only on high use if you dont play many channels. Cause it only takes care of every marble that roll through the whole marble divider and did not end in any channel.
@EcceJack
@EcceJack 3 жыл бұрын
@@1kleineMax1 good point. I do think, from the engineering perspective, that it is overly complicated for what it needs to do at the moment. But, on the other hand, so is literally this WHOLE thing :D and it *has* been working fine
@davidchidester5463
@davidchidester5463 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I don't remember it being one of the major problems. Martin should see if his funnel solution works. That was most of the marbles lost.
@mywave82
@mywave82 3 жыл бұрын
The feeding has been uneven in earlier tests too, but not been focused on
@MerelyFlowers
@MerelyFlowers 3 жыл бұрын
Martin's doctor: "Have you been getting enough exercise?" Martin: "Well, I smack a table with a mallet. A lot."
@haph2087
@haph2087 3 жыл бұрын
I like how this has become a permanently repeating bit.
@lightmare8591
@lightmare8591 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Martin: Smacks many moles Also Martin: Gets another mole before the world tour, ¨What?!¨
@brendansimons6811
@brendansimons6811 3 жыл бұрын
Another quick trick for using setscrews without causing damage on a soft part: Make your hole a little larger than the PMMA pipes, and insert a metal "shim" between the plastic and the set screw. The shim can be made from rolled strip metal, or by slicing and slotting a metal tube. If the shim is thick enough, it will clamp down evenly in all directions when pushed by the set screw.
@MostHolyPlace2
@MostHolyPlace2 3 жыл бұрын
A Draft Angle would help, similar to a Taper-Lock Bushing.
@MB-xw1tu
@MB-xw1tu 3 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about actual engineering but one of my favorite things has always been brain storming or trouble shooting problems people have (outdoor field research often involves adapting or modifying something someone invented for one purpose to use it for what you need). So it does my heart good when someone who knows more than me suggests a solution that popped right into my mind! I couldn't do any of the technical stuff but those little moles are right up my alley (or lane, if you will)
@2lian
@2lian 3 жыл бұрын
NGL, I love the divide by 4, but your arguments makes sens. I would let it on though. Test it more thoroughly as you continue working on the machine, because, as for now, it worked great. I think that you have much bigger ploblem on the machine to overcome. Focusing on this little easy (maybe) problem may be satisfying now, but could be a mistake in the long run because the divide by 4 is cool. Stick a note on it saying "Big Martin is watching you" and when time comes, decide of its fate. Mabe he will be scared and work like a charm.
@Loev06
@Loev06 3 жыл бұрын
Who is this Wintergatan everyone's always talking about? I only know Wintergatan 2...
@bencressman6110
@bencressman6110 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Wintergatan 2's debut album
@adam6806
@adam6806 3 жыл бұрын
I'm holding out for Wintergatan 3 aka 24/7 Live Stream
@tamfie
@tamfie 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just so hyped for Wintergatan 4, where you get to be there with him while the machine is being built.
@ferrt9713
@ferrt9713 3 жыл бұрын
@@adam6806 Yea
@tom_hutchinson
@tom_hutchinson 3 жыл бұрын
@@adam6806 Hahahaha
@yomope
@yomope 3 жыл бұрын
Martin:put a microphone to take the slightest sound off the taping to make it asmr for headphone user. also martin : smash a hammer all along the video.
@Inimigor1
@Inimigor1 3 жыл бұрын
For real tho, I am watching these latest videos with my finger on the "M" key so I can mute the whacks. I am really not enjoying those.
@fredashay
@fredashay 3 жыл бұрын
Be aware that surfaces will wear over time, changing the characteristics of things like gears and balances and counterweights (especially with wood and plastic parts). This is why machines are designed to be a bit "stiff" out of the factory and need to be "broken in" before everything will move smoothly.
@duckweedy
@duckweedy 3 жыл бұрын
Presumably that is why all pieces can be taken out easily and replaced. Main thing is that when repairs happen it doesn't need too much work to get it back into performance mode.
@fawode
@fawode 3 жыл бұрын
I'm also concerned about the fact that if the machine moves a lot during world tour, it will make it change a bit in a lot of places, maybe Martin should build and dismantle it several time before touring
@thatoneguy2274
@thatoneguy2274 3 жыл бұрын
@@fawode afaik the current machine is the prototype and they'll be building finalized parts based on the design of this prototype once it is "done", thats also why there's so much welding and angle grinding. basically: finish machine prototype, take it apart, make duplicate pieces without welds n stuff.
@NuclearTopSpot
@NuclearTopSpot 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguy2274 So when is it gonna make its first 150m hop?
@vidiot5533
@vidiot5533 3 жыл бұрын
He has already addressed some of that. the counterweight was off balance maybe a month or two ago. He simply adds magnets to rebalance it like people do for balancing fan blades in ceiling fans. some gears were replaced and adjusted too, belts were designed with variable tension. its not perfect, but he did account for what you mentioned
@DanielIXVIMCMLXXXI
@DanielIXVIMCMLXXXI 3 жыл бұрын
He should do a live stream of one of his marble tests.
@zorod5475
@zorod5475 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@andrewpackham8236
@andrewpackham8236 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@violinscratcher
@violinscratcher 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes!!!
@rinnin
@rinnin 3 жыл бұрын
Nah. Think of the carbon footprint. Condensed perfectly edited (as always) videos better IMO👍
@DanielIXVIMCMLXXXI
@DanielIXVIMCMLXXXI 3 жыл бұрын
@@rinnin He can still make a video
@INSIDEHARDWARE
@INSIDEHARDWARE 3 жыл бұрын
I wise man once said “pain is temporary but glory is forever“
@mkmuaqibizzuddin6885
@mkmuaqibizzuddin6885 3 жыл бұрын
No. The quote goes "Only fools rush in"
@pr0j3c7i13
@pr0j3c7i13 3 жыл бұрын
@@mkmuaqibizzuddin6885 but I can't help falling in love with you
@mkmuaqibizzuddin6885
@mkmuaqibizzuddin6885 3 жыл бұрын
@@pr0j3c7i13 Shall I stay?
@pr0j3c7i13
@pr0j3c7i13 3 жыл бұрын
@@mkmuaqibizzuddin6885 would it be a sin?
@mkmuaqibizzuddin6885
@mkmuaqibizzuddin6885 3 жыл бұрын
@@pr0j3c7i13 If I can't help falling in love with you?
@Kuxiie
@Kuxiie 3 жыл бұрын
The stress of school was getting to me, then I saw this notif. My day has now been made
@sybrendendekker5989
@sybrendendekker5989 3 жыл бұрын
You and me both
@blinded6502
@blinded6502 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, a perfect world of Marble Machine X to escape into, away from the schooling
@EduMrTeiks
@EduMrTeiks 3 жыл бұрын
Wait for laboral life.
@ClipOrDeath
@ClipOrDeath 3 жыл бұрын
just wait till you hear he's been posting every day
@conor7422
@conor7422 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@mattiesmusic
@mattiesmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than watching a good wintergatan video in the evening
@adamlykkegaard7289
@adamlykkegaard7289 3 жыл бұрын
True!
@reecec626
@reecec626 3 жыл бұрын
And in the morning! (it's 8am in Australia x)
@mattiasgonzalez
@mattiasgonzalez 3 жыл бұрын
True Man I like your name😆👏🏼😅
@josephzillo3751
@josephzillo3751 3 жыл бұрын
Afternoon
@captainprice2346
@captainprice2346 3 жыл бұрын
Midnight
@pbcrisp4373
@pbcrisp4373 3 жыл бұрын
You COULD just attach a giant bucket filled with thousands of marbles...and use those to play the songs. But that's not what you want. The MMX is not just a music machine. It is a beautiful and interesting music instrument. Please keep it that way. You have solved so many 'moles'. The fish stair and divide by 4 will be fine. Dont take them off yet. :)
@ameunier41
@ameunier41 3 жыл бұрын
The perpetual movement of the marble are parts of what a marble machine is. The mmx wouldn't be a real one if it just used marble like that, there would be no point in doing it like that, just build a pneumatic/lever one instead. The elevation mechanism are the soul of the machine.
@gerdisrael5301
@gerdisrael5301 3 жыл бұрын
@@ameunier41 You are so right!
@LamanodeManolo
@LamanodeManolo 3 жыл бұрын
Martin : Any setting that I have to tweek to an exact value for it to function over a hundred thousand marbles is a velnurability. Also Martin : spends days tweeking marble path length to 0,2 mm, yet has lots of interfering factors. Keep it up dear genius. You'll get there!
@RahLoh
@RahLoh 3 жыл бұрын
with the 1 to 4 divider relying on swinging freely until full, any other vibrations through the machine could effect it! if its going to with with 3 marbles waiting for the 4th to trigger it? maybe this could be fixed by having the 5th marble in the cue activate the divider? instead of a counterweight you want a trigger!
@Darkassassin09
@Darkassassin09 3 жыл бұрын
That's more or less what it's set too now that he added more weight. 4 marbles line up, but they don't actually swing down untill the 5th or 6th piles up pushing it over the edge.
@swiftarrow9
@swiftarrow9 3 жыл бұрын
It occurs to me that you may want to build a “fast demagnetizer” for your concert tours, so you can demagnetize all the marbles before the concert each time.
@zorod5475
@zorod5475 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah a demagnatizer that is not connection to the machine. But I doubt that it would be put in a video.
@iAmTheSquidThing
@iAmTheSquidThing 3 жыл бұрын
Could you just blast them with a degausser?
@TheRealFreekBos
@TheRealFreekBos 3 жыл бұрын
That would be a great community gift for Martin... Lets make it happen. Who's with me?
@DMadHacks
@DMadHacks 3 жыл бұрын
It is Magnetic Marble Monday my dudes...
@ManuelGennaroMusic
@ManuelGennaroMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is my magnetic friend!
@joesandy1999
@joesandy1999 3 жыл бұрын
Martin has a magnetic personality.
@Mister_Ben
@Mister_Ben 3 жыл бұрын
I missed you man!
@millesabords1654
@millesabords1654 3 жыл бұрын
3M day. Yep
@King.-Arthur
@King.-Arthur 3 жыл бұрын
aaaAAAAH
@ArvidOlson
@ArvidOlson 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so beautiful. I don’t get how you ever can feel discouraged when just looking at what you have already achieved never stops being so awe-inspiring.
@garrettp377
@garrettp377 3 жыл бұрын
MARTIN the springsteel at the fishstair started catching because you angled the tracks down! What used to be flat is now pointed down so the springsteel at the top protrudes more!
@LamanodeManolo
@LamanodeManolo 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd like to see how they work when bended upwards.
@kathrynmoore4071
@kathrynmoore4071 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to take the time to not only thank you for making the MMX, but taking us with you on the journey. It can’t be easy to show us the failures as much as the triumphs. But, I’d also like to thank you for the wisdom you’ve shared with us along the way, and about how you overcome different aspects in your life. I’ve been a procrastinator all my life, but through this channel and your words of wisdom, I’ve begun to change my outlook on how I do things, and that is 100% your doing. Seeing how you tackle a problem and work through it, helped me to realize that I can too, I just have to put in the work, so thank you more than you can imagine for helping me discover that I can change, I just have to want too. Thank you Martin.
@willhart2188
@willhart2188 3 жыл бұрын
BTW, any huge change like that should really go to the main channel.
@cptfwiffo
@cptfwiffo 3 жыл бұрын
if you have a doubt on speed, you should stop guessing solutions, you should try it. Maybe totally other things break. Why not do a 200bpm test instead? You know you're going to have to...
@j--xe3ke
@j--xe3ke 3 жыл бұрын
6:42 Girlfriend: "hey, do you have a condom with you?" Martin: "no, but I have a stack of washers"
@kempi2003
@kempi2003 3 жыл бұрын
Try that 😂
@errorcode1249
@errorcode1249 3 жыл бұрын
Why must you taint our Christian comment section
@tag666kill
@tag666kill 3 жыл бұрын
Haha amazing 😂😂
@Pehmokettu
@Pehmokettu 3 жыл бұрын
Then and has to attach a vibraphone and the agle grinder to his child and use a cardboard box to collect all the "marbles" that come out of the baby.
@KnowArt
@KnowArt 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, redesign of this divider seems needed. This look vulnerable, as whenever one marble gets stuck at the stairs it will eventually lead to the divide-by-four to stop working on all channels at once, instead of just that one blocked channel. Or did I miss something? Maybe the divider works different than I can see
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 3 жыл бұрын
It's a bit more resilient than that I think. If the length of tube is long to fit an exact number (no marble half in) or leave the last marble out of the tube by a large number then it just gets pushed to the next one or simply ignored. Sure you have one les channels but it should still work.
@ameunier41
@ameunier41 3 жыл бұрын
@@ODDnanref can the other channel be filled when one is full?
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 3 жыл бұрын
@@ameunier41 Like I said, it depends on how the marbles end up. I rewatched the video and in this case a marble got stuck while attempting to enter the channel. The pusher (whatever it is called, that makes the marbles enter the channels) got stuck on returning to rest until another marble pushed the stuck marble further back. A full channel, might not prevent marbles from being delivered to other channels. It is the whole reason why he has modules on the top of the machine and why he wants marbles flush. If the a similar effect can be achieved on the 4 way splitter channels then it might not matter. Either way, this discussion is purely hypothetical as he is reworking on that entire part of the machine.
@j--xe3ke
@j--xe3ke 3 жыл бұрын
2:31 engeneering ASMR...only if you like it. Okay, it's Wintergatan. this is something else :)
@olivercharlesworth8959
@olivercharlesworth8959 3 жыл бұрын
This has been such a journey. I really feel like we’ve been there with Martin, watched him grow as a person, as an engineer and a designer
@namwens1
@namwens1 3 жыл бұрын
The mmx is fastly becoming an ongoing prototype
@SomeoneYouKnow2671
@SomeoneYouKnow2671 3 жыл бұрын
Always has been.
@H1PP1E88
@H1PP1E88 3 жыл бұрын
Fastly?
@namwens1
@namwens1 3 жыл бұрын
@@SomeoneYouKnow2671 I always figured the first marble machine was the prototype 🤔 maybe you weren't aware of the first one?
@tristanclark7086
@tristanclark7086 3 жыл бұрын
@@namwens1 well, the mmx is a prototype. It's been changed and redesigned so many times. The goal is to make this one perfect, so that he can build another one a lot faster.
@SomeoneYouKnow2671
@SomeoneYouKnow2671 3 жыл бұрын
@@namwens1 The point still stands though? The MMX project was always in a state of constant prototyping.
@BrunoValads
@BrunoValads 3 жыл бұрын
It's almost terrifying seeing those marbles jumping with each other there above the channel divider, under the Zero Marble Fails perspective
@EcceJack
@EcceJack 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was just waiting for a few to fall! There is the little retaining rail, not sure if it's enough to help with any actual jumps from there
@DanielDupriest
@DanielDupriest 3 жыл бұрын
"I'd rather have a musical instrument than a Rube Goldberg machine." Well said Martin!
@ncot_tech
@ncot_tech 3 жыл бұрын
*gives up the whole project and buys a synth* 😉
@urrick33333
@urrick33333 3 жыл бұрын
Yay another awesome episode. Imagine one day Martin calling it DONE.
@WarpFactor999
@WarpFactor999 3 жыл бұрын
Martin's Marble Machine Madness! You are spoiling us Martin...and we LIKE IT!
@slyfox9633
@slyfox9633 3 жыл бұрын
I'm REALLY enjoying watching the troubleshooting, because your look on things is quite abstract, and the solutions you come up with work, and when they don't, you don't hide it. You are open and willing to share flaws with your project, and that's hard to find. Keep up the great work.
@7rich79
@7rich79 3 жыл бұрын
Oohh, that cliffhanger ending!
@raimonpujol5270
@raimonpujol5270 3 жыл бұрын
i love the divide by four
@alexkfridges
@alexkfridges 3 жыл бұрын
Don't remove the current mechanism! It's one of the most wonderful parts of the machine and hasn't really caused problems as far as I can tell. The spring steel was only catching at the end because you adjusted the angle of the tracks downwards without readjusting the spring steel
@satansbarman
@satansbarman 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm going to add a washer stack" had me laughing, washers have to be one of Martin's favourite fixes 😂
@TSANOOvlogs
@TSANOOvlogs 3 жыл бұрын
As long as the fish stair moves in time with the music, the marbles will look like they move in time with the music. I hope you'll at least keep that element! Making sure every step is neatly filled with marbles isn't that important, but the in-sync idea had been there since the very very beginning. It's almost like I too have an emotional attachment to it hahaha
@Kuisis
@Kuisis 3 жыл бұрын
Your ending assessment was so on point. I completely agree, get rid of anything that looks pretty but is vulnerable. I really liked the divide by 4 but I like your music production even more.
@l3d-3dmaker58
@l3d-3dmaker58 3 жыл бұрын
imma comment something just because I love the content and want too boost the interactions in the algorithm lol, this channel definitely has the same quality as the main one and it's ridiculous!
@williamandrus4704
@williamandrus4704 3 жыл бұрын
Martin, I am so delighted to see the evolution of you as a troubleshooter. Developing that part of the brain and not getting frustrated is the hard part!!! I cannot wait for the finish line!!!!
@L3K1P
@L3K1P 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe that sounds easier than it is, but "why don't you just" make the pipes coming from the divider a little steeper? Raising the divider by a few millimeters could suffice to load the stairs with slightly more force, which it looked like (to me) could fix your problems
@ameunier41
@ameunier41 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's the impact from the incoming marble that cause the chaos. Raising the angle would make it worse.
@Temperans
@Temperans 3 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of moving parts in that area. Steeper angle will give more force, but it will also increase the pressure on the stairs.
@L3K1P
@L3K1P 3 жыл бұрын
@@Temperans Exactly, that's the point. It looks like the marbles don't actually fall in fast enough, getting caught on the edges of the stairs
@Dragobot7
@Dragobot7 3 жыл бұрын
@@L3K1P The thing to consider with that is raising the divide by 4 raises the front sloping pipe which raises the marble divider. Needing to raise it too much could cause a redesign of a large part of the machine. The better solution would be to bend the pipes ever so slightly down by the fish stair as to increase the speed at which they roll at then end, without changing the rest of the machine.
@SteelSkin667
@SteelSkin667 3 жыл бұрын
I can't help but notice how good these table whacks sound. They're like a perfect snare drum hit every time.
@cleopoulin598
@cleopoulin598 3 жыл бұрын
The current system is quite close to working, is beautiful and may take less time to get working than starting anew. Using a stiff rubber, silicone or felt instead of sheet metal strips to guide the marbles into the stair would do a lot for reducing noise. Adding curvature to that strip, conforming to the shape of the marble instead of a flat strip may also help in preventing the marbles from moving to the side as they enter they fish stair. Also instead of the tape on the bottom fish stair attaching a larger guide to the pipes covering both the side of the pipes and the bottom fish stair might work better. I'm curious, how many marbles are in the system in total? Is there a way to calculate the likely hood that the staircase occasionally going up with only 2 or 3 marbles would cause a channel to be empty and unable to play a note? Would adding more marbles to the system make it more resilient? I've been following this epic since the very beginning and am starting to feel the melancholy one feels towards the end of a great book. The machine really feels like it is getting close. While I know that you need to finish this machine for the sake of your sanity, and I'm looking forward to seeing you in Ottawa Canada on the world tour, I'm gonna miss this mix of engineering and art that speaks right to my soul. Thank you to you and Hannes these daily videos. Best thing to happen this decade!
@kyukyu5982
@kyukyu5982 3 жыл бұрын
Your machine is beautiful, no one except perhaps you is going to miss dem marble pipes 😂! Remember, this machine could end up playing zero songs at this point and this project, at least in my mind would still be a raging success!!! You have built a wonderful machine regardless of its functionality, that for me brings out this feeling of pure joy and curiosity. You remind me to keep pushing myself to achieve my goals and to keep persuing the things that I find interesting regardless of what others may think. I hope you realize how amazing this project is and what it has already accomplished, though there will be much more amazing things to come as well!!! Thanks for everything, can't wait to hear and see more!
@ChrisPrudhomme
@ChrisPrudhomme 3 жыл бұрын
The moles have gotten to the point that he is forced to provoke the machine before they emerge😱 Ever onward on the march of mines!!
@Im49th
@Im49th 3 жыл бұрын
I am really loving these weekly videos! This is awesome, thanks Martin.
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 3 жыл бұрын
Yippee-yi-ay, yippee-yi-o... Ghost marbles on the floor!
@peanut3777
@peanut3777 3 жыл бұрын
Martin's gonna cure cancer with a stack a washers.
@zack3135
@zack3135 3 жыл бұрын
Martin - You should set up a ton of cameras to record every working element in the MMX. This will help you see any flaws as you run your tests It will also make for some killer B-Roll
@kennydope5180
@kennydope5180 3 жыл бұрын
Tons of cams multiplied by the duration of while running the test will result in 100s to 1000s of hours of video-material to watch.
@zack3135
@zack3135 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennydope5180 this is true. So you have the weigh the cost of the time to review the full machine vs the time it might take to discover an issue
@jamesperry1358
@jamesperry1358 3 жыл бұрын
With the bass drum and snare in the background, the opening slow-mo looks and sounds like a victorian-era steam contraption.
@ncot_tech
@ncot_tech 3 жыл бұрын
Piano tuners - "This will take a few hours, I need some spanners" MMX tuner - "Give me six months and an angle grinder"
@satansbarman
@satansbarman 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the washers 😆
@AdamMethe
@AdamMethe 3 жыл бұрын
This continues to be my favorite journey. Thank you, as always, for continuing to work on and share your progress!
@OHomemquecalculava
@OHomemquecalculava 3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm not alone here but might still possibly be in the minority when I say that I really don't think you should get rid of that part. Its okay to focus on function over form, and maybe its just sunken cost fallacy speaking, but it seems to me that you're just sacrificing years of effort to make the MMX become the MMY. Calm down, you just had good progress on the divide by 4. The moment it started to fail again was exactly when you introduced a previous problem back in it with a temporary piece that didn't belong there. The divide by 4 and fish stairs work well enough as they are.
@bro748
@bro748 3 жыл бұрын
It's easy for you to say when you aren't the one dedicating years to this machine. Martin has other projects he wants to work on, so at this point it seems that he really wants to move on from the mmx.
@OHomemquecalculava
@OHomemquecalculava 3 жыл бұрын
@@bro748 That's even more of a reason to accept some level of imperfection! The longer he thinks he needs a less than 0,001%, the longer he lingers in this project.
@bro748
@bro748 3 жыл бұрын
@@OHomemquecalculava Ah, I think I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying that he should spend several more years on the project in order to make parts like the divide by 4 work perfectly. Rereading it I see that you meant kinda the opposite.
@OHomemquecalculava
@OHomemquecalculava 3 жыл бұрын
@@bro748 No problem!
@morefiction3264
@morefiction3264 3 жыл бұрын
That opening was like a scene out of Metropolis.
@ferret901
@ferret901 3 жыл бұрын
Would be sad to see the divide by 4 taken off. Hoping there's a better compromise there
@explodabat
@explodabat 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about the aesthetics of the parts--the way this project delves down into the gritty details of the design and engineering process is cool enough as is, and, by extension, any part you make will still be just as unique. Also, don't forget that you're making a *music playing marble machine!* No single part can get in the way of that, as long as it works.
@eyalbensoussan5172
@eyalbensoussan5172 3 жыл бұрын
No !! Please it will work do a fast test before changing the divide by 4 please !
@IAmSirOblivious
@IAmSirOblivious 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best mentality to help you sacrifice aesthetics for functionality is that the most aesthetic aspect of the MMX is its ability to successfully perform its function!
@wxc3
@wxc3 3 жыл бұрын
All I can hear is "engineering guacamole".
@solerg0d
@solerg0d 3 жыл бұрын
watching the marbles roll over the other marbles is so satisfying glad you got the modules working.
@linkoffate
@linkoffate 3 жыл бұрын
In this rate, Martin will be doing wild circus tricks just to whack some moles
@blueyoshi9233
@blueyoshi9233 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the whole think works and looks, but I understand what you mean when you say it’s fragile, I’ll leave it up to you Martin :) your decisions have always been enough for me!
@thetrollTH
@thetrollTH 3 жыл бұрын
5:09 this is when wintergatan knew , he discoverd a new MOLE
@SteveLurvey
@SteveLurvey 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that intro. I could watch it work all day. I grew up going to the Boston museum of science and their art installation of a giant ball machine. Golf balls, bowling, bearing balls. Your machine without the music is fantastic. Thank you for this work of art.
@oneeco
@oneeco 3 жыл бұрын
4:13 is so elegant
@i.r.3249
@i.r.3249 3 жыл бұрын
11:30 It's so nice to see the marbles flush are the marble devider entrance knowing the efforts it took ! Love the daily uploads, we belive !
@SLU2MOVIES
@SLU2MOVIES 3 жыл бұрын
I'm worried By the time you finish the MMX won't the parts be worn out already ?
@zorod5475
@zorod5475 3 жыл бұрын
He is already running into that issue which shows off the moles.
@fawode
@fawode 3 жыл бұрын
I think he is also using the machine a lot during the last year, which make me thing that by the end of the project this problem will have comes up and will be assesed
@DeFaulty101
@DeFaulty101 3 жыл бұрын
Don't scrap the divide by 4, it seems so close to perfect function! Also, if you have the funds, I would advise getting a second CNC machine to forever cut your CNC time in half.
@jacobpalomarez5349
@jacobpalomarez5349 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the removal of the divide by four is a bit premature. It seems like it was working fine. The focus should really be on critical marble fails and not noncritical ones.
@joshuasims5421
@joshuasims5421 3 жыл бұрын
Balancing the four lane marble pickup was truly inspiring.
@fredofredofredo
@fredofredofredo 3 жыл бұрын
Martin please don't go crazy trying to get it perfect. The hard truth is it'll never be perfect, since you'll need to disassemble and reassemble it many times and many external variables could affect it. I'd suggest you try and get the other channels done and whack any apparent moles that affect it greatly. From then on try and "debug" it and squash any other problems that pop up. But I feel like it's totally fine for it to drop some marbles here and there. I do believe in this project and I do believe in you being able to deliver it, but I'd rather see it playing in a year rather than not drop any marbles in who knows how many years.
@chungonion
@chungonion 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, I think Martin is a bit obsess on not letting any marbles falling from the machine and also obsess on making the divided by 4 stairs picking up all 4 marbles at all times It do pile up a bit however the stacked up marbles are very unlikely to overflow at the rear of the pipe, as someone mentioned, with 30 channels or so, those will also pickup by other channels before reaching the pipe that lead to the divided by 4 steps. Also, the marbles will not fall out of the machine simply because of not having marbles on the steps~
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 3 жыл бұрын
Your engineering is continuing to improve. Taking a problem one at a time is the only way to really know what is going on. Well done Martian !
@richardgregory4640
@richardgregory4640 3 жыл бұрын
No-oooo! Leave it as it is. You could spend forever going back and redesigning everything to make it marginally better. If it works then leave it be. Sometimes good enough has to be good enough.
@kaltenbach.alexander
@kaltenbach.alexander 3 жыл бұрын
The slow-mo is stunning. Even MORE!
@kaltenbach.alexander
@kaltenbach.alexander 3 жыл бұрын
I love how alien the machine looks in the close up angles. At times the clear pipes are very hard to see, and it looks as if the marbles are floating, beautiful! 11:30
@noideaforaname1524
@noideaforaname1524 3 жыл бұрын
One day the table would break from too many hammer smashes
@pillbug2796
@pillbug2796 3 жыл бұрын
Martin is providing learning material for generations of design students to come ^^
@HaeriStudios
@HaeriStudios 3 жыл бұрын
I may be alone on this one but if you want a perfect, tight note playing machine you could just open a DAW on your computer and program in the exact notes. This machine you are building is not perfect, but it has character. It being a bit whacky and having some "silly" marble paths is the reason so many people decided to follow this journey. Those individual parts are the reason why this musical instrument is so interesting in the first place.
@Tyguy370x
@Tyguy370x 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos Martin, your attention to detail is so inspiring
@detheagle3746
@detheagle3746 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the next big test! Hopefully we'll get to see it this week. I'm not really sure why the "divide-by-4" is nessaccary? Why couldn't it just be a basin like where the conveyor picks up the marbles? Sure, the farthest tube would fill up quicker than the rest and it wouldn't be even, but that would remove the need for balancing and it would remove the noise. And, the rest of the set up wouldn't need to be changed, so it would be a relatively quick fix I think.
@zorod5475
@zorod5475 3 жыл бұрын
The conveyor use to also have a divider. The basin is a recent change.
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 3 жыл бұрын
What about adding a felt pad to dampen the DivideX4's noise?
@detheagle3746
@detheagle3746 3 жыл бұрын
@@zorod5475 And that's why I'm saying remove the "divide-by-4" and put in a basin? ​ @InventorZahran Could work but I'm not sure there's room, so it's have to be totally redesigned (probably) and if so, it'd just be quicker to slap a basin in instead
@zorod5475
@zorod5475 3 жыл бұрын
@@detheagle3746 one thing at a time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
@aryst0krat
@aryst0krat 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what he's talking about at the end of the video.
@corbalord
@corbalord 3 жыл бұрын
Look man, you've gone this far, you have 8,500 patron supporters, and so many viewers watching, waiting for the end. Giving up is not an option, we all are supporting you and not a single person agrees that you should give up (that I've seen). Please, just keep going, I'm a patron supporter, and I support you and your work because it's a thing that should be in this world. It's unique, and nobody has the time and the mindset to make something this complicated in today's society, but you. You have the brains, the financial support, the emotional support of thousands of people, and a world tour to look forward to. Don't give this up. ♥
@Homotron3000
@Homotron3000 3 жыл бұрын
OMG THE COINCIDENCE OF ME LOGGING INTO KZbin TO SEE YOUR UPLOAD...... HI MARTIN 🥺
@thelasttimeitried
@thelasttimeitried 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you ended the video the way you did. I spent the whole time watching thinking "there are so many ways that could go wrong". Hoping you end up happy with both the aesthetics and functionality of lifter version 2!
@Altcapball
@Altcapball 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly wouldn't mind if it took him another 5 years to finish the machine.
@electron2601
@electron2601 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure once it's built and on tour, he continue videos building another one from the cad drawings maybe other materials.
@Nicolas_projects
@Nicolas_projects 3 жыл бұрын
Martin, this channel is definitly my favourite ! I'm glad you made this change !
@MadCrazyCooI
@MadCrazyCooI 3 жыл бұрын
Never clicked on something so fast in my life! :D
@WillHirsch
@WillHirsch 3 жыл бұрын
Good job on the devide by 4 Martin! It's extremely satisfying to watch!
@wateronthefloor
@wateronthefloor 3 жыл бұрын
RUST - I don’t seem to remember you addressing rust prevention and I’m so worried the MMX will be in and out of the tour van and will be rusting very quickly! Please calm my nerves and let us know what and how this can be addressed. I noticed parts of the marble divider has some surface rust.... 😧
@Emariess
@Emariess 3 жыл бұрын
i can't tell you how much i am appreciating these daily videos in lockdown.
@OleJanssen
@OleJanssen 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe, the moles should get a status like Wilson?
@averyjamesbrooks
@averyjamesbrooks 3 жыл бұрын
Martin have to say - some really great photography in this episode~! Love the pragmatic and relentless problem solving, but also -- beautifully shot! Thanks again for so many hours of entertainment and insight.
@pietvanvliet1987
@pietvanvliet1987 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a possibility of that mole ending on a shirt?
@charliemorse6412
@charliemorse6412 3 жыл бұрын
These videos have been the best thing to happen for a while. You have officially become part of the daily routine!
@benedekmartontolgyesi205
@benedekmartontolgyesi205 3 жыл бұрын
Ohh wow i clicked so fast
@ncot_tech
@ncot_tech 3 жыл бұрын
Did you mic the table? The sound is far too clean...
@ilyaholt8607
@ilyaholt8607 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else watching this while waiting for SN9 to launch?
@victordrouinviallard1700
@victordrouinviallard1700 3 жыл бұрын
LOOL exactly
@GamezBeatz
@GamezBeatz 3 жыл бұрын
Oof thanks for the reminder, almost forgot the launch!
@timonix2
@timonix2 3 жыл бұрын
rip launch
@victordrouinviallard1700
@victordrouinviallard1700 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffsadowski was watching him and another channel : seems like too much wind today ;)
@diefloppers
@diefloppers 3 жыл бұрын
Martin, I absolutely appreciate these kind of videos! Getting to know more of the day to day struggles and progress of the MMX really brings joy to my quarantine life :) Thank you and your Team for the efforts you guys put into making the videos and, of course, the MMX!
@nissegroos8964
@nissegroos8964 3 жыл бұрын
At 8:13 5 marbles went through! I don’t think it happened again though so it probably won’t be an issue!
@zorod5475
@zorod5475 3 жыл бұрын
More mables getting through is an advantage over not enough marbles getting through.
@nissegroos8964
@nissegroos8964 3 жыл бұрын
@@zorod5475 that’s true, but if you want 4 to go through every time it’s not so good.
@adam6806
@adam6806 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Martin you've made me so happy that those are even now. Thank you so much. My OCD needs a nap lol.
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