Magnetic vs Magic Mask!: FCP vs DR Showdown!

[@kenslyder]

This is just amazing. Using both programs but FCPX most of the times now

[@RafaelLudwig]

I wish I could use FCP for everything! This video wasn't to convince anyone to switch, it was more to show they are very comparable so no one should have FOMO which it comes to roto tools- Both apps are great, both AI masks are great and regardless which NLE you use you're in a good place. With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment Ken!

[@kmal16]

The big elephant in the room with DR, since I use magic mask all the time, is your tracking data going to red once you cut down your clip in the timeline and losing all of that valuable hard work, or you change anything in the color wheels to a node before it, and poof! all that blue line turns to red. A few things, one is once your tracking work is done is to go back to your timeline in DR and right click on your clip and select Render In Place, this is a wonderful time saver, and I just use H.265 which turns out to be just as good or even better in some circumstances than Prores 422, and it takes up much less space. Anyway, Render In Place is an option to constantly losing your Magic Mask, ahem, ahem!, Tragic Mask, I'd rather say, :) and you can still do more color grading to that clip, it won't break. Another option is in the 3 dots on the right side of the Magic Mask panel you get an option to Regenerate your mask, which it redoes exactly as it did before. Once done only put any new node after that node, or downstream from that one, and you can change any value since they're downstream from MMask node. Just make sure to not shorten your magic masked clip in your timeline or change anything on any node that is upstream or before the magic masked node. Honestly, I don't work in FCPX, but because of its seamlessness from what I see here, I'd give it an easy win for now. Once DR fixes their 'tragic' mask once and for all, it will be a whole different conversation. But if you're in DR, as I pointed out there are good workarounds. My favorite is to combine the Regenerate Tracking data option with the right click Render In Place in Resolve and you don't have to worry. Now last point, is if for example your rendered clip isn't satisfactory to you or it was too short, or you realized you were just needing an alpha channel (which in this case you have to export your Render In Place in Prores 4444 or higher, it didn't work in my experience at lower resolutions), you could right click again on your rendered clip and select Decompose To Original. If you want to keep the Rendered file separately, and still Decompose that clips to its original file, make sure to duplicate that rendered file first then go ahead and decompose it. It all sounds like a lot, and it is until you get the hang of it then you can do all of those operations within minutes. Hope this helps.

[@kenslyder]

@ thank you!

[@michaeloeser]

Who cares what´s a second faster or slightly more accurate in some situations. No one will switch the NLE just for those minor differences. It´s awesome on both.

[@RafaelLudwig]

I 100% agree! This wasn't to convince anyone to switch, it was more to show they are very comparable so no one should have FOMO - Both apps are great, both AI masks are great and regardless which NLE you use you're in a good place. With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment Michael!

[@kenslyder]

I care. I like a faster workflow and I liked to see this comparison. I will now use FCPX more often

[@kmal16]

@@kenslyder I agree, I'm a DR user and above, on another comment, I pointed the challenges and workarounds with DR's magic mask. I would suggest sticking with FCPX until Blackmagic Design fixes all of the MM bugs which are plaguing right now.

[@sotonin]

It's awesome on both if you are only dealing with 5-10 sec clips... When you try to put it to work on say a 30 min 4k clip, apple silicon shits the bed vs a windows laptop with a dedicated video card.

[@michaeloeser]

@@sotonin I´m not sure what to rotoscope for 30 Minutes and you will never know what happens because FCP doesn´t run on Windows ;-)

[@johnmscotland]

Loving the mask and at last automated captions!

[@RafaelLudwig]

Me as well! Steps in the right direction for FCP! Thanks for watching and the comment John!

[@johnmscotland]

@@RafaelLudwig thanks for the video, great demo!

forgive my inexperience, but I find Davinci Resolve more accurate and easy in the sense that I have more control in things like invert mask, and apply different effects to it without removing the Alpha. In Final Cut Pro I find that to do the same workflow I have to duplicate the video and apply the effects to the video that I want depending if I want to apply to the mask or "everything but the mask". Am I missing something? I am a hobbyist, I do not edit videos for a living even part time. But I like to make videos for my kid and even went into deep colouring courses and fusion courses. Before that I was all-in in Final Cut Pro and Color Finale 2 Pro. Also, when I was testing Magic Mask I think I found a feather option for the cursor. To not make it hard if my recollection is correct.

[@aman34587]

the main advantage of magic mask is that it is built into fusion page where you can control however you want like you its paint mask tool to patch flickers or mix it with standard rotoscoping tools or get two mask and combine them to get results in many ways

[@StuartHetzler]

the real power of magic mask is how easily it integrates with other tools

[@RoshanMimoto]

The good thing about this softwares doing this its that premiere has to do something about it, maybe soon i'll not have to switch to After Effects for a simple mask 😅

[@RafaelLudwig]

Adobe came out swinging with their last update, AI wise they are in a great place, the clip extension feature is fantastic! Every 6 months they add something fresh (I wish FCP would do that as well) Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@topicruben]

Hey brother, I hope everything’s good on your end. Great video. Big thumb up. I’m loving this new feature on FCP 11 🎉. Thanks 🙏

[@elijahdegraffenreidt5312]

Final Cut looks better and it shows especially with the young lady, doorbell and the kayak IMO

[@RafaelLudwig]

This wasn't to convince anyone to switch, it was more to show they are very comparable so no one should have FOMO - Both apps are great, both AI masks are great and regardless which NLE you use you're in a good place. With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Loving where we are today! Steps in the right direction for FCP! Thanks for watching and the comment Elijah!

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Sir, Meaning this in a humble way...If the Car footage was in RAW / LOG , is it possible to crank the brightness & exposure for the Magnetic Mask to track & once done, remove the unnecessary stuff...will this work ?. You know better. I had a great time watching this video. Thanks :)

[@RafaelLudwig]

The car footage was shot on film and when I received it was already base graded. We were doing the edit and VFX, we asked for raw, but weren't given access to it. (this was years ago) Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

@@RafaelLudwig Thanks for taking time to reply to my comment. I understand Sir. Have a wonderful day :)

[@GuilDormeus]

I really like FCP's Magnetic Mask!

[@RafaelLudwig]

IT's awesome for sure! Step in the right direction for FCP! Thanks Guil for taking the time to watch!

[@isitreally02]

In Davinci resolve that method you used is too cumbersome. Just go to fusion, click shift+space and type Magic Mask. Click on it, select your subject, feather it and analyze forward and boom, done. It's also the preferred workflow since it does not alter the nodes in the color page...."In case you need to do some coloring later"

[@RafaelLudwig]

For sure! With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@techgoggles]

When doing The kayak in the end you said you can’t copy it in effects… you kinda can. They added it to the mask section of effects

[@RafaelLudwig]

I haven't been able to copy the magnetic mask to another effect or clip (via paste attributes) If there is a way I'd love to find it. Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@jeffhudson1744]

What I wonder is that people will take footage from video and add to other video for bad purposes. Bad to think that but that’s just the way things are. Really liked the video. You make it look so easy. I can barely edit video now. Also, with the updates in equipment like the m4 chip, would that make a difference in how well the process does?

[@Dincerssssss]

What about after effects? Is it the best or is Final Cut better than it in terms of magic mask and its equivalent in after effects?

[@Filmmaker593]

You should use Magic mask inside of fusion page

[@RafaelLudwig]

Yeah probably! I know with more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@WarrenPeaceOG]

Still impressed

[@RafaelLudwig]

This update is a step in the right direction for FCP but still a ways away (Yes for me). This video wasn't to convince anyone to switch, it was more to show they are very comparable so no one should have FOMO which it comes to roto tools- Both apps are great, both AI masks are great and regardless which NLE you use you're in a good place. With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment Warren!

[@ProfoundProductions]

Final Cut is a no brainer if you can afford a Mac, unfortunately a lot of kids have to start editing on their gaming pc rigs. With the new Mac Mini being so cheap and powerful, they should be able to afford both now.

[@RafaelLudwig]

There is nothing better "Bang for buck" than the new Mac mini! Hopefully it'll be a new catalyst to new users for FCP! Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@ruffprophetproductions]

You know what’s crazy. I was doing magic mask in the fusion page and it was dumb slow😂😂😂😂😂

[@Robroy333]

Magic mask works better in DR Fusion page btw

[@RafaelLudwig]

Yeah probably! I know with more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@Robroy333]

@ I tried fcp 11 and been using DaVinci last 4 years after leaving FCP because they haven’t updated it in 13 years. And Davinci has much more features and updates…/Davinci takes less time and more accurate in my experience

[@videolaricin8634]

i have the newest macos on my Macbook Air M2. But i don't have the update for the fcpx 11 in the appstore. Can anybody help me???

[@sotonin]

Try testing some clips more than 5 seconds long. Something that will actally showcase how bad apple silicon is vs a windows laptop for this task. Try masking out a 30 min talking to the camera vlog style video in 4k. Then get back to me about how great it is.

[@andersistbesser]

You did not use resolves version the right way. You can refine the mask in a lot of ways. This is not a tik tok filter.

[@RafaelLudwig]

I agree! With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage, I say that a few time through the video. Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@psysword]

fcpXI rocks!

[@WierdGuyLiam]

why dose nobodyt use the better verstion the magic mask they always chose faster for some reason.

[@RafaelLudwig]

I did use Better on clips later in the video. With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment Liam!

[@WierdGuyLiam]

@@RafaelLudwig Okey, thats my bad for not waching al of it.

[@markmcvittie5877]

Boris FX Mocha rules the spline trackers. Shilloutte is awesome your comparison is limited

[@EckertAndras]

FCPX +1

[@evi1ways]

FCP may be better slightly with the mask. Moving on to color and sound may be a different story, however.

[@RafaelLudwig]

For sure! This video wasn't to convince anyone to switch, it was more to show they are very comparable so no one should have FOMO which it comes to roto tools- Both apps are great, both AI masks are great and regardless which NLE you use you're in a good place. With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@ProfoundProductions]

Unless you’re filming a Hollywood blockbuster, DaVinci’s tools are overkill for most. Fast, simple, and reliable for the win.

[@adrianhepker311]

Finalcut is Over 💀 you were saying 😆?? Mmm .

[@MAnOj_RedE]

it's Over 😁

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

Whatever gets the views, don’t trust any of them.

[@RafaelLudwig]

I've gotten more flack for that thumbnail than any other recently. But if you did watch the video, I wish I could use FCP for every client project, but can't either for project sharing, final project delivery, text based editing, poor key framing, poor audio tools. Anything with the name Magnetic in FCP is fantastic, but it's still lacking for me professionally. This update is a step in the right direction but still a ways away (Yes for me). This video wasn't to convince anyone to switch, it was more to show they are very comparable so no one should have FOMO which it comes to roto tools- Both apps are great, both AI masks are great and regardless which NLE you use you're in a good place. With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment Adrian!

[@adrianhepker311]

@@RafaelLudwig having to switch pages instead of working in one page is also klunky . Magnet 🧲 timeline has yet to be beaten for its simplicity and speed. There are plug-ins for most shortfalls including key framing. CapCut is a piece of rubbish in comparison. The fact that anyone even mentions them in the same breath is a joke. Yes the Autocaptioning is great but the rest is more of a gimmick and most of it in now in a subscription model. Thanks for the great video. Yes no real multi user mode for Fcpx but one can round trip & share to cloud workflows. DVR is still a hog on many systems apart from the very latest. It’s capable but not the fastest unless you build a custom pc with a massive gpu to support it.

[@wisdomyaw03]

From what you’ve shown in this video, Final Cut’s Magnetic Mask is just better. It’s more refined in the cut outs, significantly faster, and easier to used. That’s not to say Resolve’s Magic Mask is bad-it’s also good-but Apple just one up them here.

[@RafaelLudwig]

This video wasn't to convince anyone to switch, it was more to show they are very comparable so no one should have FOMO which it comes to roto tools- Both apps are great, both AI masks are great and regardless which NLE you use you're in a good place. With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@orxion]

the main difference is that FCP got it as a "new" upgrade, while DaVinci has been offering it for a while...

[@RafaelLudwig]

Yup! I am happy that the NLE's I use the most now have it! This video wasn't to convince anyone to switch, it was more to show they are very comparable so no one should have FOMO which it comes to roto tools- Both apps are great, both AI masks are great and regardless which NLE you use you're in a good place. With more time DR could do a better job refining but I did this test similar to how I work with a client sitting with me while editing, more to test ideas quickly not about the finessing/finishing stage. Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@mergediaries9251]

Guys, I’m using a MacBook Pro M2, and the software is macOS Ventura 13.2.1. All the software I use is cracked. Now, I want to use Final Cut Pro 11, but Ventura doesn’t accept it. I get a pop-up saying I need to update the software to install it. If I update the macOS, will I still be able to install the cracked version again?

[@michaeloeser]

Simply don´t use fu**ing cracked software, stupid. Or at least don´t complain if your systems crashed to death.

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

🤡

[@mergediaries9251]

@oo0Spyder0oo ?

[@RoshanMimoto]

Why r you on ventura? i'm using the same MacBook Pro M2 with Sequoia 15 and goes pretty well

[@mergediaries9251]

@@RoshanMimoto Bro, I'm updating the system, no problem with that. But after updating, will I still be able to install cracked versions of software like Premiere Pro, After Effects, DaVinci, etc.?