MAGNUS CARLSEN secretly CRUSHES Jan Gustafsson in his live stream

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1:55, Jan talks about this game while being with Magnus :)
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[@FellowOfHammer]

Gustafson is the funniest

[@TheAffenkotze]

@@FellowOfHammer He definitely is!

[@ariavachier-lagravech.6910]

Who is here after Jan is revealed to be team Magnus?

[@_______3231]

This video was pretty funny to.

[@crulio]

Magnus Carlsen makes Jan go from unshakable confidence to questioning his choice of career in less than 6 minutes

[@iamronaldo7764]

Yup

[@Shenaniganz_z]

True man.

[@Pkey995]

Jan and unshakable confidence? Where did you get that from ?

[@mdb831]

Alternate title

[@gauravgoel9080]

How do you know its magnus for sure?

[@callmewisdom]

"Either he is the biggest genius in the world or this is just weird." Well, he is not wrong.

[@draxwar3]

he is not magnus it was an engine.

[@chrisolson2846]

Shut it Rocket Man.

[@4c00h]

Not really.. it takes about 2 seconds if you're quick with the mouse and anyway nowadays there are software which use OCR and move pretty much instantly so along with a good connection you can get each move at around 0.5 to 0.8 seconds per move. Still not as fast as a human who can premove.

[@4c00h]

Sure buddy

[@Joshuaposada]

4c00h he isn't wrong. Besides the unorthodox moves is not something Houdini for example would do. There is clear style in his play.

[@PrinceofMacedon]

this is the most real GM I've ever seen: "This is a line I've never studied before."

[@coltenpfeffer4730]

I used to watch your videos 5 years ago because of your strategic intelligence. Its cool that you play chess now too

[@meikalainen6547]

Yeah Prince is good In rtw but how is your chess that I can play with you? :)

[@kevinb314]

Also “I shouldn’t be playing chess” and a few other good ones thrown in lol

[@coltenpfeffer4730]

@@meikalainen6547 im 1100. Not that great

[@dandogamer]

Fancy seeing you here, I've watched your rome 1 videos like 8 years ago 😅

[@vanamutt43]

Love the dude’s attitude...just straight up said he was outplayed, no excuses... Love it, thats really the sign of a strong player/person Instant fan now..

[@betochiwas]

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[@ex0duzz]

Lol yea, you don't get to be a GM without being honest with yourself about your chess game..

[@richardmatthias6098]

@Nobodeh DontNeedToKnow Well sharing your account with Magnus is kinda cheating

[@Kaploy8]

@@ex0duzz Unless you are Nakamura.

[@gunnaruppstad3574]

@Nobodeh DontNeedToKnow no, he hinted at it being Magnus. He knows Magnus and Salomon are friends and that Magnus has a history of playing on his friends' accounts online, this is well documented, especially on ICC. He's a regular second of Magnus, he recognises the style which is why he says this guy is just too good for me, and mentions the 'instant' moves to clarify no engine suspicion.

[@VicenzoV]

Imagine how relieved Jan must've been when he found out it was Magnus.

[@travalenguas.]

4:09

[@tuandingkang3263]

@@danielmorganjr2989 he knows he isn't cheating cuz he keeps repeating "he just keep blizting out move"

[@biedawo]

5:23 ..... not sure if totally relieved

[@ryanwongny]

@@biedawoo

[@ArseAllowance]

​@@danielmorganjr2989where did you get he thought he was cheating ?

[@Meta-Drew]

"I already dislike my position" Me before my first move

[@harryblakey3919]

me when i am in black

[@Szabby999]

Good one, same for me! :)

[@DCfromBC]

This is the greatest comment ever left on KZbin. Period.

[@GlobusTheGreat]

You reminded me of a moment I saw in a Ben Finegold instructional video. He's teaching a chess class to kids. He goes "okay, now I find that a lot of you guys blunder from this position." Then on his screen, he reveals the starting position.

[@archdukefranzferdinand567]

@@GlobusTheGreat He's not wrong. My go-to opening move when I was a kid was a4

[@irisce2799]

0:16 “he goes f5... now he’s trying to humiliate me” I aspire one day to reach the level in chess such that I can interpret my opponent’s opening choices as a personal attack.

[@TheBeakertube]

Here it's because that opening, 1d4 f5, is called the Dutch defense, and our streamer is Dutch.

[@irisce2799]

TheBeakertube I thought Jan was German though

[@Leaffordes]

I know right, lol. At the end he still had the advantage in pieces, but I guess his positioning was bad which made him resign? I have no idea what a bad position looks like in chess but I guess it's when your opponent has the initiative all the time. Hopefully one day I'll take my time to learn chess.

[@bobbobbity463]

@@Leaffordes He was going to lose a rook next move and a pawn soon after. He wouldn't be able to recover from that.

[@MoleculeTwo]

@@TheBeakertube No, Jan is german

[@j.6230]

That moment when you get stream sniped by Magnus Carlsen lol

[@exjwflatearther6554]

who is magnus carlson?

[@nebojsazakic]

Carson*

[@oneeco]

Look at the title....

[@Subscribers-gj6oy]

ExJw FlatEarther One of the best and youngest chess players.

[@MotRi1986]

@@Subscribers-gj6oy Is it enough to describe the guy that have been ranked as the best chess player in the world since 2010 and is three time back to back world champion as one of the best in the world? He is the undisputed best chess player in the world, have been that for almost a decade and you can argue that he is the best of all time.

[@puzzLEGO]

"either he's the biggest genius in the world or..." yeah, you could say that

[@CABOOSEBOB]

Yeah lmao

[@NJ-wb1cz]

He was implying that the guy could be cheating without directly accusing him

[@kaleidoscope3234]

@@NJ-wb1cz This video is 4 years ago. AI couldn't beat GMs back then.

[@NJ-wb1cz]

@@kaleidoscope3234 "AI" was beating world's top super GMs over 25 years ago, and regular GMs well before that

[@U_C_G]

@@kaleidoscope3234 The inaccuracy of this statement is laughable

[@hudsoncaceres6820]

This is really a testament to how good Carlsen is. He is so skilled that other professional players are sincerely baffled by his playing.

[@akshith37]

Larbitosツ how about others? Do they live in stone age?

[@limit2620]

akshith teki u nailed it !

[@limit2620]

Larbitos O_o firstly comparison itself is wrong... humanity is constantly evolving...so you can for sure expect way stronger chess players in the distant future and Carlsen will look like a club kid along with them

[@9MRSG]

Alpha zero

[@fks_ado]

@Larbitos O_o The new generation will always be better, that's just how it is. You cant bring up a hypothetical situation like Murphy being born in the 2000s as a point because it will always be hypothetical. Fischer, Kasparov, and now Magnus was lucky and skilled enough to be born in later generations and have the talent for chess to be where they are today. You can always say that a caveman could possibly be faster than Usain Bolt but isnt because he isnt born during the modern day, but no, thats just not how it works.

[@Carlos-bx7ts]

Magnus just 360 no scoped him from across the map

[@thetechegg8859]

Who says CSGO players are stupid.Ayy ma man speaking chess!

[@superbus8102]

Magnus took his awp and did the nifty wallbang

[@TheMusic30000]

@@thetechegg8859 Eh, its more of a cod thing

[@methadon3000]

Watch your God damn mouth when you're talking to the two time

[@speedrunningchannelban]

you made my day

[@matthings4133]

Who else watches this like once a year

[@tassv5909]

yep, great combination as Jan speaks truth & Magnus plays truth

[@kintarooe7745]

today was the day :D

[@24sumo]

Me. And I just way watched it again lol. You’re comment made me laugh, it was spot on

[@johart309]

here I am again, with all the comments already liked from me. and I still find it funny

[@Bighomiehobbs]

🤌

[@albertbatfinder5240]

Jan, you made a lot of fans with your attitude to this game. Integrity and insight and common decency. Best game you ever lost.

[@Paul-Feyerabend-C-Lévi-Strauss]

Not really. He was basically calling the guy a cheater.

[@ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle]

Not really. Basically, he was calling the guy a cheater.

[@EinfachNatur]

Not really,. when he play vs the best,.. is it a other position. When you´re a super High player,. and a other make you still ez game over. Thats a moment,. who you maybee say,... mh... wtf is this Person?! :D Maybe he is the best in the world!? =)

[@DerSuperoldie]

@@ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle No he wasn't. He said multiple times that he was blitzing out moves implying it can't be an engine. The moves were engine moves but in human pacing , which is why he called it "weird".

[@ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle]

@@DerSuperoldie Context for this comment, there were 3 comments previously (now all deleted) that said a variation of "Not really, this guy is a cheater" So i continued the trend but doing another variation of the comment. I have no idea who these people are or how to play chess.

[@soumonism]

That Jan didn't make more excuses or percieve the situation wrong says alot about him.

[@youngpatrick29]

I’m sure the idea occurred to him... but yes not saying it out loud is the smarter choice

[@bobdole7292]

.... "i'm not sure what's going on there mr. salomon, that's too strong for me." "moves made instantly, and they're not obvious." he implied he was cheating. not only did he perceive salomon was cheating, but he made suggestive comments.

[@timangar9771]

bob dole yeah... but also: "this is either the greatest genius ever or this is just weird." Weird = engine, greatest genius ever = ... well, he was kinda right if it really was carlsen

[@ferretdash]

It seems that Jan May have known it was Carlsen, Since he knew that Saloman and Carlsen were good friends, and that Saloman should have been sleeping for the tournament the next day.

[@Lykyk]

@bob dole No you idiot, if you cheat you DON'T make moves instantly because chess programs take time to go through thousands of moves if you put it on a high level. Try one out before you talk shit.

[@shlomosuke]

I'm honestly very impressed by his attitude. Dude's getting absolutly bodied, and acknowledges it. And the line "either this guy's a genius or it's just weird" is the cherry on top. Magnus plays so fast and so perfectly it almost felt like it was a machine. Loved it

[@Sanderus]

He believes he is playing against an engine.

[@triflomastera4882]

He's on Magnus's team now lol!

[@IrregularPineapples]

​@@Sanderus No he does not, that's why he says it's weird. His opponent is blitzing his moves -- meaning that it can't be an engine. His opponent is simultaneously playing like a human and an engine. It doesn't make sense to him.

[@gc6329]

Tbf, he literally said "this is the biggest genius in the world or something weird is going on" He was right 😂

[@s1dew1nd3r4]

can you explain to me why he resigned? there was still chess to be played at that point he resigned surely? he could go ruck to E3 then losing the backline ruck but capturing magnus' bishop with the king? or am i totally missing something?

[@davidmcgregor4537]

"I'm missing every move, I should not be playing chess." Story of my entire career. (If you can call it that)

[@Christian_Decroze]

David, Couldn't help laughing when I read your comment. I could have written it myself. Your "career" is mine. After decades of practice, my Elo Ranking must be something like 1040 maybe less, and I still can't see a 1 move Checkmate. Why the .uck do I (do we) stubbornly continue playing Chess ? 'cause it's fun :-)))

[@rawtrout007]

K R he is rarted

[@djsickbeatz4005]

Must be stuck in “Elo hell” and blame it all on ur teammates

[@nischay4760]

@@KR-oi5yx he is exagerrating a lil bit😂

[@mrdudeman29]

I feel that on a spiritual level just got my elo on chess.com to 800 and it feels like a huge victory :p

[@EGarrett01]

3:55 "He doesn't make sensible moves, but he keeps tricking me." This is essentially the same description that Carlsen himself gives to playing against superhuman engines. They're like idiots who beat you every time.

[@thetrickster42]

Near it doesn't apply to most chess engines and definitely not Stockfish. The points system is not just "9 points for a queen".

[@govindmprabhu]

Ancient But you're the one who's Ancient here

[@Game0verFool]

Near I'm embarrassed for your reading this. Which decade have you just come out of? You seem to have mistake modern engines with ones from 20 years ago.

[@miladibrahim1068]

EGarrett01 lol I heard that too from Magnus, and this just proves that if a move doesn't make sense to you then it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense in reality,

[@dannygjk]

+Near you are 50 years behind how the current engines work.

[@noobmaster31]

"Why is this guy blitzing out every move, he never thinks. And his moves are not obvious"...goes to show the real difference between your average GM and Carlsen.

[@jonathanross4851]

And most people would consider Jan to be a borderline super-GM himself.

[@noobmaster31]

@@jonathanross4851 exactly right. Jan is a good GM.

[@halligalli3354]

Jan is in the team of Magnus Carlsen or he was in his team. Jan Gustavson has write books about chess and is really strong. I think that Carlson just make a joke with him. The reaction of Jan was great. Sry, my english is not great.

[@extremeptgaming6193]

@daniel hilt Ah, yes, it's for sure only memory... Lol

[@marcoyolo1095]

@daniel hilt yeah bro sure all memory bc it is possible to memorize 10^120 moves...

[@dr.mikeybee]

I'm impressed by how quickly Jan realized he was playing an amazing opponent.

[@puppy8125]

Micheal Bee What? It’s obvious...

[@jeffpulohanan9226]

@@puppy8125 you just realized it because you knew he was losing. Magnus didn't do typical moves but made ones that are a few steps ahead. Incredible though i bet he could beat me in less than 15

[@erenbaran8184]

@ensayofr Somebody really needs to bully you of the internet,you are replying everybodys comments saying Jan is a whiny bitch which he is not and insulting people Luckily for you i enjoy just seeing your kind exist in the internet so i am not gonna be bullying.

[@aracoixo3288]

@ensayofr sarcasm 🎭

[@3sm1rost84]

When the opponent is clearly superior you realize it quickly. There's the feeling that everything he does is effortless while you feel positionally dominated. Losing against someone much stronger has a different taste with respect to losing against someone comparable. I don't know how how to explain it better than this., 'cause it's more of a feeling than something quantifiable.

[@Gastogh]

*after one minute of playing against Magnus Carlsen* I already dislike my position. *after four minutes of playing against Magnus Carlsen* Either he's the biggest genius in the world, or...

[@mustafamertozylmaz6006]

Gastogh. Ahaha true

[@bumpinugly4985]

Gastogh Five minute mark or so: "That's too strong for me."

[@Lazy.y]

This is weird

[@UnordinaryCarl]

LOL

[@ite547]

Don't forget when he says "I should not be playing chess"

[@kukuruznik-258]

I love how Jan says "mister Solomon" just like Smith says "mister Anderson" in Matrix.

[@rhysjones4250]

Incredibly humble sportsmanship. A GM is a genius in their own right and he got bashed on his own channel? Took it humbly with no complaints.

[@NotQuiteFirst]

He kept a professional and polite demeanor, but made many comments suggesting the opponent was using a computer to cheat. It's considered very bad form to accuse an opponent of cheating without evidence so he couldn't say it explicitly, but he clearly believed they were cheating (which in a sense, they were)

[@barlin4972]

@@NotQuiteFirst Fair assumption. Very unlikely, that a random guy in the internet beats a professional chess player like this.

[@vincenzofranchelli2201]

@@NotQuiteFirst well his opponent is Carlsen in disguise. His opponent was 200 lower than him yet was playing like he was 200 higher so he was right that his opponent was playing above his advertised skill level

[@NotQuiteFirst]

@@vincenzofranchelli2201 The reason for his opponent outmatching him isn't the point. I was simply responding to the original commenter's assertion that Gustafsson "took it humbly with no complaints".

[@vincenzofranchelli2201]

@@NotQuiteFirst he said (or implied) either hes playing the biggest genius or a cheater, he was playing the biggest chess genius. So he was right

[@n3o924]

Ninja wouldve reported him for stream sniping

[@launu9546]

N3O he did the emote hes obviously stream sniping

[@forgottenpygmy]

@@launu9546 haha Gottim!

[@AcceleratorUlz]

Who is ninja?

[@joniq7582]

@Dominus Providebit at least he is a millionaire compared to you ^^

[@louissanchaze5184]

@@SnappedSeven lol

[@anatolydyatlov963]

"I already dislike my position" Magnus: "yeah, me too" and changes the way he sits in his chair.

[@doit425]

I watched ONE chess video and look where youtube led me...

[@AlligatorTradingGroup]

Haha welcome :)

[@Era7Wesker]

Me2 bud 😂😂👌

[@fedoradeb8r412]

DO iT ! Same :/

[@BitcoinMotorist]

That's me with wrestling. I watch one wrestling video and KZbin thinks I am a big wrestling fan

[@janetcho3194]

My favorite of all time, Jan is the man. He’s so perplexed. He would normally think it’s some engine use, but then the blitzing moves throws him off. He’s left totally bewildered and confused. It’s such a beautiful video.

[@s1dew1nd3r4]

can you explain to me why he resigned? there was still chess to be played at that point he resigned surely? he could go ruck to E3 then losing the backline ruck but capturing magnus' bishop with the king? or am i totally missing something?

[@davidzhou718]

His other bishop was also hanging, so after the whole sequence magnus would take the bishop with the pawn and would be up 1 rook (2rooks vs 1) This is hopeless and he can resign

[@s1dew1nd3r4]

ah yeah i suppose thats the case, i guess at the point it becomes inevitable..@@davidzhou718

[@lma5508]

​@s1dew1nd3r4 Even after Re3 (Rd2 would be a slightly better move I believe, still losing badly tho) black would take white rook on F1. White can recapture blacks Bishop but will lose his Bishop. So he's just down a rook in any scenario. He was annihilated, at the level of GM being down a full rook is game over

[@Wtahc]

he thought it was an engine

[@johnwest7993]

This is my favorite chess video. Jan is definitely a GM. He knows immediately that he is being outplayed, even when he doesn't perceive his opponent's plan. This is rarefied air.

[@h3lblad3]

Awww... I was hoping to see his reaction to finding out on cam!

[@miro6402]

Same Edit: I don't know why I had to comment 'Same'. I could have just liked your comment like everyone else but I guess I'm a special noodle.

[@artykillen9251]

There is a video where they both talk about it in person

[@zMazine]

@@artykillen9251 can u post it

[@BoxLaneProductions]

@@miro6402 same

[@BoxLaneProductions]

same

[@RonaldinhoPopper]

Thumbnail: "I will crush everyone" Actual video: "This guy crushed me before"

[@alexwirtz9780]

Underrated comment here

[@marcsDill]

"These moves aren't obvious......at least to me." Is why this is my absolute favorite chess match. "Why do I always miss everything? So sad." Is why I rewatch weekly.

[@lonkis]

Magnus Carlsen on a smurf account!

[@oliverupload]

I hate smurf accounts

[@unrealshaco7384]

lonkis not smurf account hes eloboosting

[@unrealshaco7384]

i'd say smurfing would be you playing on a fresh account rather, rating boosting would be on another person's profile

[@markkaminsky4943]

lol

[@ary_disini]

What is smurf account?

[@Zenitself]

Jan: “He is either the greatest genius in the world or just weird.” Magnus: Yes.

[@s2dda]

This salomon guy were pretty good. He should consider going pro

[@mustafaamin9516]

💀💀

[@mikecantreed]

He is. Johan Salomon is a grandmaster.

[@MrFidoD]

Hahabba

[@therealheadshotguy]

r/whoosh

[@weebletedits6808]

@@mousetv4311 he was addressing @mikecantreed .....the guy who commented was being sarcastic😂

[@babyseal_5]

1:52 “I can take the pawn but he will of course have huge compensation on these dark squares. Still a pawn is a pawn. I love grabbing pawns” That part cracked me up. Jan trying to convince himself that taking the pawn is a good idea

[@discharm210]

And then regret it 5 moves later🤣

[@johnwest7993]

Exactly. As it should be. But he already senses that it isn't. He's a GM alright.

[@isavin1730]

"Why is this guy blitzing out moves?" LOL

[@AmplifyChris]

What does that mean? Blitzing out?

[@LD67117]

@@AmplifyChris playing fast

[@amex4453]

@@AmplifyChris Tell me if you find out!

[@Caaro99]

AM3X making moves very fast, like in less than 10 seconds.

[@cizbarca]

AM3X bc he is the best and plays constantly

[@Spoon80085]

It’s crazy how Magnus is so good that playing on an account with 2000+ rating and an IM is considered smurfing

[@0123-y5i]

not that crazy, its no different in other ranked games

[@r.brandt2246]

Eh, it’s 2000+ on Chess24. I’m 2000+ on Chess24. Magnus is 3000+ on Chess24.

[@Spoon80085]

@@r.brandt2246 What are you trying to tell me

[@dracondebates]

@@Spoon80085 I think the point is that the difference of 400 rating points is huge regardless of what the actual ratings themselves are. A 1200 against a 1600 is absurdly one sided. Similarly, the difference between a 2600 IM and a 3000+ super GM is insane. I think they were agreeing with you but phrased it in a way that seemed like a disagreement.

[@stefanutzap]

It is surfing...

[@kaizah1997]

Even the anonymous profile picture looks like Magnus LOL

[@muntiah5871]

Huh? Thats not anonymous. Thats real account of GM Johan Salomon (was IM at that time). Gustafsson know who Salomon is. But not knowing that his account being used by Magnus.

[@nelsonsanchez9055]

@@muntiah5871 I think he meant the profile picture

[@chillax9184]

Reading comprehension

[@vumazwesiziba4103]

Hahaha dude you are brilliant

[@HalfDeaddz]

@@muntiah5871 its a bit late but, r/whoooosh

[@jeykob100]

Hes allowed to be cocky about winning with that honest attitude while losing. Respect to him

[@willburchett4667]

“Either he’s the biggest genius in the world or”

[@vumazwesiziba4103]

"He's cheating" - that's what he wanted to say but didn't want to appear as a sore loser

[@c.221]

@@vumazwesiziba4103 he said his opponent was "blitzing out moves" and "playing instantly" , implying that it can't be an engine

[@SaulMeyersz]

the commentary by jan makes this so much better.. since we know its magus playing.

[@seanupton709]

Crazy how a really intelligent GM who has devoted their life to mastering a board game can still be outclassed by an opponent that is semi trolling. Chess is so complex.

[@TheHigherSpace]

yeah ches is very deep .. the difference between classes of players is so vast ..

[@azamat_bagatov69]

4:15 I really felt that “Mm”

[@chazzz284]

Love the fact he's wearing a shirt and tie for his stream

[@MaxAires]

3:05 lol'd so much at his reaction

[@DanArnets1492]

The internal screaming is BEAUTIFUL.

[@enskyenskk]

Oh damn, missed that the first time. Priceless

[@tasewa]

and one move later he realizes hes screwed xD

[@bbxdesign]

I probably watch this video once a month. It's just so good.

[@matthieu4514]

every sentence of Jan is gold, can watch this in a loop for a week

[@alb5275]

I love how Jan accepts it and tries to analyze the situation with no bitter, angry or desesperation, that would be a hard battle for everybody himself in any discipline you're good at; we all have been there.

[@mindfictiontv4664]

Did you even watch the full video? ''no bitterness* or desperation*''!? He straight up put his whole career into perspective. ''I'm missing every move, I should not be playing chess.''/"Why do I always miss everything? So sad." Then: **proceeds to resign** That's pretty desperate.

[@human7491]

@mindfictiontv4664 That ain't no bitterness. Bitterness is when you keep complaining and whining for ages, without touching grass. He sas just shocked, which is normal. GM's don't often get crushed like that.

[@wmsbasket]

And 2 years later he is a second of Carlsen, helping him to become world champion again. :D

[@DasBaum123321]

at the point of the video he already had been a second for magnus for quite some time.

[@michaelreed2787]

That tactic at the end with the 2 bishops was pretty sick. Bxc2 Bd4 Bxb4 and then D3. I wonder how many GMs would spot that so fast.

[@SamuelHauptmannvanDam]

Jan saw it after the fact, just imagine that Magnus saw it as quickly as he did. The move made no sense - I mean it obviously did, but creating that creative that quickly is just nothing less than impressively scary.

[@xoranginho]

@Christoffer He himself said that he misses the old days where the moves played themselves. He said that these days he has to think a lot more directly about his moves.

[@worldisfilledb]

I have a question

[@laynemccormic9102]

WorldIsFilledB that’s not how you KZbin brother

[@victordeluca7360]

@@worldisfilledb Don't we all?

[@burns9281]

stay humble because there is always someone better then you. oh wait unless u r magnus

[@Vitringur]

Magnus has lost plenty of games. Being a champion and having the best average success rate doesn't mean you win 100% of the time. Being better than someone is a vague term.

[@SouRGraphics]

Vitringur that's exactly why you play multiple games in championships and that's Magnus is the best

[@rooksman64]

SouR Graphics lets see vs Caruana

[@SLWRX617]

Than*

[@giovannibettini2246]

@@rooksman64 rip caruana

[@ZeufAabe]

The way he clears his throat and he struggles speaking, you can tell the man is in pain. Watching elite chess players get obliterated always makes me feel for them, it's obviously an awful feeling he's getting right now.

[@Pohlolol]

the throat clearing is a generel habit of him, though. not trying to lower your displayed empathy ;)

[@ZeufAabe]

@@Pohlolol Oh is it ? I'm not familiar at all with the man and I've seen people clear their throat like that when they're shameful/embarrassed. Thanks for the info :)

[@lucromel]

At some point Jan has got to start being concerned about his own health during this game. Seeing all these moves that don't make sense yet are winning, he's got to start thinking he's have a stroke or something.

[@TheSchrewer]

He’s screaming inside you can tell. The will power not to just punch the screen must have been immense

[@escaperoomleander1948]

"Why does he keep blitzing out these moves? These aren't obvious moves... ...to me, at least."

[@ss8140]

"This is a line I've never studied" "Looks so strange" "I already dislike my position" "What's going on there, blunder already? Yeah" "Missed that one too" "I Shouldn't be playing chess"

[@Astrobay13]

Rewatched this after 2 years and only now realised he's suggesting his opponent uses an engine But tbf, who can blame him! It's way more likely your opponent is cheating than your opponent being Magnus Carlsen

[@spaghetti2777]

Yeah, but he disproves it in the end by saying that the moves were instant which is why he says it's very strange since he doesn't think salomon is that good but at the same time, he can't be cheating.

[@kimano117]

@@spaghetti2777 Yeah players of his caliber can tell when a player is cheating with an engine, and I think he knows it's not that, he's just confused because what else could it be.

[@KagirinaiYonaka]

i think he had a suspicion that he played against magnus, hence the sentence "either he's the biggest genius in the world (magnus carlsen) or this is just weird (because salomon was not that strong)

[@jim0084]

Cheaters are very obvious, the engine takes at least 10 seconds to calculate per move. If a GM thinks you are cheating, they will just flag you even in a losing position because it takes too much time to keep waiting on the engine. It's also extremely rare for a titled player to risk his title from an online game. Jan was just confused how an IM played like a super GM.

[@Astrobay13]

@@jim0084 😂 it takes an engine on a solid computer about a second to calculate a good move. Humans get crushed even in ultra bullet by engines. Apart from that it does usually take cheaters a couple seconds to enter the move into the engine, but there couldve been a way the guy he was playing looked at moveorders ahead of time or bypassed the human component and allowed the engine to interact with the board directly

[@x-Musashi-x]

There is engines There is Artifical intelligence And there is Magnus Carlsen

[@jamesperez6785]

0:14 "hmm goes f5. Now he's trying to humiliate me big time by, not only beating me but, but by beating me, with the dutch! Which is even worse." that opening commentary by Jan is too funny!

[@sweeanntay5601]

Came back to watch this vid after MC revealed his WCC 2021 team

[@Ivan_1791]

The combination with the two black bishops is just amazing wow.

[@allahm-ast3mnlywlatstbdlny164]

Ma

[@repp181]

it would have take me 9 hours to figure out

[@marcsDill]

I'm back again to watch in 2024, after bungling 2023, to begin the year with a clear conscience. Perfect display of humbleness, humility, and humor sir. Lovely.

[@TheUntamedNetwork]

"You should be very careful before you accuse your fellow chessmates, of cheating with an engine. So instead Salomon, I will pay you a compliment; you Sir, play like an engine."

[@christopherthompson5400]

It seems interesting to me you comment in quotes. I suppose it makes sense because I write my comments like thoughts. Yours was well phrased though. Though I don't know how to define engine like play, I must say these guys put up great games

[@gustafsjoblom6914]

'Either he's the biggest genius in the world or this is weird.' A bit of both I'd say.

[@filmlak-1880]

0:19 now he is trying to humiliate me big time there, not only beating me, but beating me with the dutch. well, you were not wrong Mr Jan but you earned my respect for your attitude after losing.

[@DaRza17]

Wow I knew Magnus is extremely good but this video still shocked me... ...Prodigy

[@1966-k3z]

“He doesn’t make any sensible moves...” Checkmate

[@quebono100]

Jan is the best chess moderator ever :) like his calm style and his honesty

[@marksnazzy4737]

This is the kind of video you watch at 3am and think: "Ight imma head out"

[@daeuri]

I haven't seen anyone mention that Magnus made it up to Jan by making him one of his seconds in his match against Caruana.

[@nasekiller]

"why is he blitzing all the moves, it makes no sense" thats what i as a layman think everytime i see professionals play.

[@Roman-fb9mq]

4:09 "Either he is the biggest genius in the world or" Spot on buddy Spot on

[@rocketleaguegaming2211]

after 4 years of watching chess content, this is still my favourite video

[@Pintkonan]

for me, it is among them (:

[@s1dew1nd3r4]

can you explain to me why he resigned? there was still chess to be played at that point he resigned surely? he could go ruck to E3 then losing the backline ruck but capturing magnus' bishop with the king? or am i totally missing something?

[@stackers165]

"Either he's the biggest genius in the world, or this is just weird"

[@ghastman7818]

Jemand hier nach dem Zugzwang Turnier der Rocket Beans? :D

[@lennartduchow7415]

Ehrenmann

[@rola8890]

was sagt er denn da über diesen prank?

[@triainas3546]

In the end it says total score against salomon: 0: 2. So I guess they have played again against each other

[@ShadowK0ng]

He did say the guy crushed him the day before, so...

[@paultnt1]

This shows the difference between a strong GM and a super GM - Magnus knows complex lines of attack and can recall over 10 000 GM games from memory - he is probably in the top 5 greatest players of all time

[@karntaneja3693]

the greatest of all time

[@jasonmain6398]

Who would you even consider as close OP?

[@paultnt1]

@@jasonmain6398 Hi there Carlson is rated the highest ever but for style and pure ingenuity I like Tal and Fisher ,they played at such a level it would be hard to match

[@Htheorphanarian]

@@paultnt1 fischer prime vs carlsen prime, ali prime v tyson prime, optimus prime v megatron

[@whokilledpitou]

@@Htheorphanarian One of these is not like the others

[@loosepieces6565]

Code word meaning of "weird" is "engine"

[@Neo-lc9wu]

That doesn't even make sense

[@armandoliebenberg6111]

Yes it does. Do you know what a chess engine is?

[@leerobbo92]

Carlsen makes the most engine like moves out of any player in history, if I remember a chessbase study (or someone similar) correctly. He's not wrong to assume that, there's more chance of playing an engine than Carlsen online.

[@1001011011010]

leerobbo92 That would make sense, I've heard the same of Capablanca. But Magnus would make more sense since top players literally run through lines with engines. So it would be like he follows the engine who then agrees with whatever he did.

[@clashy]

You're thinking of Morphy.

[@emilcioran8873]

3:50 I felt so sorry for him here.

[@theOrbitdeck]

I wanted to hug this guy at 4:43.

[@Reedbull111]

Orbitbrown I know right haha can you send me a brick or two

[@Guywithair2]

Lmao

[@MrAlanfalk73]

Jan seems like a really nice guy😊

[@rogoitan]

04:04 bb4 I'll never think about it...brilliant!

[@ariavachier-lagravech.6910]

Years ago he troll Jan and now they are working together.

[@theunknown21329]

2:14 3:55 This is the funniest part lmao. Respect to Jan for not being a crybaby and simply accepting that he got outplayed by a much much better player than him.

[@quantumjoss]

I’m glad he gets to feel how I do when I play chess online

[@JH-en6ql]

I just have to periodically come back to watch this, as it's absolutely hilarious to watch Jan's responses! :)

[@JH-en6ql]

I'm back to watch this again. I think everyone just fell in love with Jan with this video. Such a fun guy to watch. And a very classy guy!

[@NoelKerns]

"Either he's the biggest genius in the world, or he's just weird...." Well, yeah...He's the biggest genius in the world.

[@wysiwygdies]

his face looks like almost crying at the end looking for new challengers

[@jemstar33]

I just pictured Carlsen laughing as he was playing him lol

[@MrLasox]

I like that Magnus isn't playing 1# suggestions by StockFish but actually playing some stranges moves so it's getting human vs human and not engine vs engine game. That's the strongest side by Magnus Carlsen as well. He has so extraordinary understanding by the game.

[@thatsawrap5235]

Until so-called super grandmasters learn to play outside the engine, Mangus is going to break into the 2900s.

[@johart309]

@@thatsawrap5235 doesn't look like it these times, sadly (I mean hitting the 2900)

[@Jemapelbulgarel]

4:01 When you realize "this can't be an IM"

[@pmadood6970]

Magnus prob over there watching the stream and giggling and shit

[@detectivemarkseven]

Hihihi ☺

[@hitrapperandartistdababy]

“Either he is a world genius or he is weird” and he is right on both accounts

[@spaghetti2777]

For those of you wondering, no, he did not think Salomon was cheating as bots do not play instantly.

[@WhitestOC]

Hikarus bot doesnt think lol

[@kristofferb-e1337]

@@elenapolyviou6396 In another game Magnus against the bot, the bot took 4 - 6 sec every time. Even when it was 7 sec left. Magnus won because the bot used too much time.

[@ISI.O]

This would always be my favorite banter blitz moment.

[@AsdfgHjkl-cw2gy]

4:05 I come back here and rewatch this "are you serious" part often

[@garagavia]

"This looks way over my head" love the humility.

[@gggfx4144]

That "mm" he makes and gets slower and deeper each time says it all hehe. Very well played though and great sportsmanship; shows he's truly a lover an analyst of the game to be above his emotions that way

[@Zultchy]

this guy is top 100 in the world and Magnus is running circles around him

[@BraceGD]

gustaffson is 119 in the world but I get what you tried saying

[@AnnedolfFrankler911]

Respect to the guy. He admitted to being outplayed. He did not make excuses. And in the end, he took the loss like a champ.

[@leodf1]

"Very strange game/moves' means the guy was cheating. That's not taking the loss like a champ. What did you expect? That he could flip the board and start shouting and screaming?

[@AnnedolfFrankler911]

@@leodf1 "Very strange game/moves" means he could not predict what his opponent would do. So his opponent's decisions appeared strange to him. In the end, he admitted to being outplayed. Which is taking the loss like a champ. He could have easily been butthurt and started saying that his opponent got lucky or whatever. But he didn't.

[@mathildewesendonck7225]

@@leodf1“what did you expect“ look up: „Kasparov raging“. During a friendly simultaneous Kasparov complains that one guy had a higher rating than he (Kasparov) had been told

[@LightYagamiMgtow]

Nice profile pic

[@dannygjk]

The psychological factor is huge in chess and underestimated by most average club players.

[@arsenalfanrichi]

I disagree, there are many local club players in my area who use many psychological tricks to compensate for their lack of talent otb. Not that I have any of said talent either, ofc.

[@draxwar3]

arsenalfanrichi what kind of tricks do they use ?

[@Weedmate420]

yea... lot of club players will go with knight sacs on f2 or f7 in blitz games to prevent castle.... it confuses the shit out of new players and bring them on a terrain they mostly are not familiar with... the psychological factor lies in the fact they can't castle anymore and they feel like their king is now ''exposed'' on f2 or f7 when its easy to defend 95% of the time. There is actually a huge variety of tricks you can pull off to either waste some of their time or just make them fear threats that are not really around...... just maneuvering and "do-nothing" will confuse a lot of people who will end up doing a mistake in a balanced position because they want to move things up.... Opening up easy to resolve tactics or even threatening them... even if its going against your strategy will make people fear useless threats and get them into making stupid mistakes...... Thats excluding all the already existing tricks in the vast opening repertoire the game itsel presents(wich I dont really see as psycholog)... lot of average players learn all of these and just bully people around.

[@arsenalfanrichi]

There are off the board things, such as hitting the wrong side of Clocks, and claiming it is by accident, hovering hands over pieces, to distort view of the board. Muttering, rolling eyes, sighing, getting up and watching other games, for example. At the board there can be things, like closing the position at every single opportunity, denying pawn breaks, until the game becomes impossible for either side to come up with any kind of attack, then waiting for younger players to make mistakes or weaken their positions from desperation of trying to force a decisive result. Speculative, clearly unsound sacrifices, to sharpen the games up as Heavenly bear eluded to. There is a lot, of psychology. And I can confess to being on the receiving end of all of these more than once. Although the speculative sacrifice always has a place :P

[@maxlisk80]

arsenalfanrichi alluded