Magnus Carlsen vs Ding Liren || Grenke Chess Classic (2024)

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Carlsen, Magnus (2823) - Ding, Liren (2818)
Classic RR (Karlsruhe, Germany) [03] E10 2024.03.27
E10 Queen's pawn game
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Nc3 c6 6.Bf4 Bf5 7.e3 Nbd7 8.Nh4 Be4 9.f3 Bg6 10.g4 Be7 11.Nxg6 hxg6 12.Qc2 Nf8 13.O-O-O Ne6 14.Bg3 Bd6 15.Be1 Qc7 16.Kb1 O-O-O 17.h4 Kb8 18.Rg1 a6 19.Rg2 g5 20.h5 c5 21.dxc5 Bxc5 22.Na4 Bxe3 23.Qb3 d4 24.Rc2 Qd6 25.Ba5 Qd5 26.Bxd8 Qxb3 27.axb3 Rxd8 28.Nc5 Nd5 29.Bd3 Nb4 30.Nxe6 fxe6 31.Rc5 Rd5 32.Rc4 a5 33.Be4 Rd6 34.Rc5 b6 35.Rc4 e5 36.Rxb4 axb4 37.Kc2 d3+ 38.Rxd3 Rxd3 39.Kxd3 Bc1 40.Kc4 Kc7 41.Kd5 Kd7 42.Kxe5 Ke7 43.Kf5 Bd2 44.Kg6 Kf8 45.Bd5 Bc1 46.Bc4 Bd2 47.Bd5 Bc1 48.Bc4 Bd2
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[@michaelmassaro4375]

I’m Glad Ding held his own in the game he’s struggled and has been getting a bad rap from doubters of his ability hopefully he keeps improving Thanks for the Game Agadmator

[@stephencampbell2018]

I believe it was maybe 4 or so years ago that Magnus said that his only 2 equals were Fabi....and Ding.

[@DarkKnightIndia]

Tbh wherever I see you, your picture makes me sick

[@lucasventura7106]

@@stephencampbell2018 he says that fabi is about equality but ding... was another thing, more than equality. That before pandemic.

[@solarcrystal5494]

He gets exactly the rap that should be expected for a "made in china" world champion

[@mitchelldykens]

@@solarcrystal5494what the hell is that supposed to mean?

[@chichoskruch21]

Maybe everything should be rapid Bullet = very fast rapid Blitz = fast rapid Rapid = normal rapid This format = slow rapid Classical = very slow rapid 24h = incredibly slow rapid

[@subhammishra8214]

Genius

[@subhammishra8214]

One player one rating

[@IngieKerr]

Correspondence : Delayed Rapid. FischerRandom/960 : Char Dip Fries*. yep. that's an anagram of Fischer Rapid, #sorryaboutthat

[@elpollolocoman119]

I think they call this slow rapid, in respect of the games played hundreds of years ago. They would play games without time control.

[@allencheshire9316]

@@elpollolocoman119 True but they weren't allowed to leave the table. Became a contest to see who could remain dry.

[@andys_industries]

Hard to see a ding game where he doesnt sacrifice atleast a rook

[@cleiru7859]

Ding Liren used to play like a machine before he became a contender for championships.

[@khann2159]

​@@cleiru7859yes, his peak was really scary

[@ClarkPotter]

​@cleiru7859 Yes. He was like Fabiano, but unlike Fabi, was willing to play some inspired moves and occasionally yolo it, which Fabi never does, unless he's losing and very desperate.

[@beksatibek]

Hey, Agad. Can you cover Ding vs Keymer and Magnus vs MVL. Those were sick games:)

[@raduungureanu2080]

gotta use #suggestion

[@beksatibek]

@@raduungureanu2080okay, thanks, i didn’t know that

[@lukemarks3281]

Where have you been...​@@beksatibek

[@jonathancauley5345]

That was such a great game by both!

[@vaibhavautade3283]

Awesome 😎

[@user-bj6rf3yx6e]

Amazing

[@mbientn]

Great game. I'm happy for Ding.

[@subramanianrs318]

Ding back to form - hopefully in time.

[@Christopher-pm3dy]

mediocre

[@michaelmassaro4375]

@@Christopher-pm3dyhe played a bit better than he has been so it’s an improvement

[@goose5462]

All draws? Giri would be proud.

[@compositeur8455]

He hasn't won a game

[@kosiarz-zh7kt]

​@@compositeur8455 its the matter of time

[@ronsonthongam1447]

0:26 once I saw agadmator video I never think twice to like, but others videos of anyone I go to last and I like

[@rochfati2732]

Nice game 👌

[@samagrabarnwal]

7:44 at this position, why not knight back to b4? Doesn’t that hold everything together for black? The white king still will be unable to enter the game, the rook is pretty much tied down and the black king is free to walk up via the black squares no?

[@yotsugiononoki9995]

Maybe f4 works again, Bxf4 and that pawn at d4 falls while also freeing up the rook, if gxf4 then g5 is probably enough to score the whole point (35. .... f3, 36. h6; if gxh6 white has g6 as the black pawn at d4 would get in the way of the ds bishop, if Bxg5, h7 - pawn at g7 would block access to h8) PS: A pretty interesting variation, for me, is e5 after f4 (fxe5 makes the pawn vulnerable, but play f5 and it will not only overload the black king, it actually can't prevent the f- or h-pawn from promoting even when disregarding the defense of the queen-side pawns) Gotta love what threats pawns could pose and how big of a role a "passive rook" may play PPS: Haven't use an engine and I'm quite weak so there could be miscalculations 🤣

[@ZeCroiSSanT950]

Ding chilling 😎

[@audeylord3636]

It's the first time we witness Agad make an inaccuracy in his closing line

[@arvinmoosavian5561]

@7:13 Rook d6 might be an advantage for black. White Rook in D1 is completely blocked by his own suite. White bishop needs a tempo in any case to get useful. The knigh sacrifice might be better than recapturing with pawn. For counter attacking purposes and taking back the initiative!

[@natureatitsbestplace]

Don't underestimate the underdog. A dog is a dog. Dare not if it's wild...!!!!👌👌👌👌👌👌

[@ideroofingsystem]

Ding vs Keymer next please!!! #suggestions

[@Skwertydogs]

How much time did each ultimately spend?

[@doctorbnasty1859]

Anyone know why magnus didnt try to move his king back to the left side of the board at 12:00. Im assuming the black king woulda chased the white king leading to the same predicament?

[@sbelgrade]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@SonicMegaKing]

The World Champion vs the Best Chess Player.

[@RaviTeja-vh4yk]

Hi agad, a fan of you from india. 😊

[@bestofsatish]

Near flawless game. We cannot find any fault with both of them. Class at best

[@indianfan1029]

The engine will probably count the rook sacrifice as a blunder or at least an inaccuracy.

[@noplays2480]

​@@indianfan1029the engine says its brilliant

[@pranavshankar6222]

Oooh I missed that f4 tactic after nb4

[@ahmadfodeh3413]

In which city this tournament is taking place ??

[@kevinwukun]

karlsruhe, Germany

[@Lukeicht19]

7:18 i think Rc5 is an inaccuracy the file is fully dominated by oppoenent minor pieces so should be sliding rook to e2 potential theat of capturing the black bishop as blacks rook is undefended on 8th rank

[@syjwg]

This was a great explanation of those disgusting engine lines.

[@munthereisa4861]

You may wanna call it: sR?

[@sinasobhani5916]

😍😍

[@varungharpure8904]

Magnus should play against the engines now!

[@ram9ajju]

did this transpose to english system?

[@michaelmassaro4375]

Ding might draw his other game today vs Keymer he has rook and Bishop vs Rook Knight endgame happening

[@ninja8flash742]

he did draw even tho it was winning poor keymer almost had a endgame masterpiece

[@beksatibek]

Keymer was 3 pawns down and winning and then he blundered, it was a beautiful endgame )

[@pelimies1818]

Why not eat d3 with bishop? Why eat with the rook? at 10:25

[@ziqizhu7364]

If Rxd3, then just simply ...Rxd3, opposite colored bishop, guarantee draw

[@pranavshankar6222]

If Rxd5 Nxd5 Be4 there’s…Nb4 keeping the king tied down. Then the win is problematic even if white eventually wins the e6 pawn. Similarly Bc4 Nb4 Bxe6 d3 and I can’t see the win for white- his pieces are just too passive

[@SpicyTurkey83]

Ding is continuously finding ways to improve. I'm very impressed. At first, I didn't believe that he was truly the champion as long as Magnus breathed, but now he might actually have earned it.

[@nenhumnome4149]

Lol no

[@maximthefox]

He's the champion because Magnus refused to participate. Not because he's the best player

[@lindastina]

​@@maximthefox"Ding is the champion just because Magnus refused to play". It has become a cult, ain't it? Magnus is being treated like some kind of litmus test in chess when he also lost to players whose ratings are far below his, and recently even to a 10 year old kid. Magnus is great, everyone knows. But he's a human too. Get a life.

[@maximthefox]

@@lindastina I'm sorry if the truth makes you upset

[@lindastina]

@@maximthefox what truth that makes me upset? that Ding won the World Championship and that made you cry like a baby?

[@franciscopareja2919]

In 03:52 , why dont move the knigt to F3 to defend the bishop?

[@svenske71]

Im guessing you just attack that undefended knight and win a piece either way

[@franciscopareja2919]

the undefended knigth goes to F3 defendig bishop while attacking the opposite black bishop@@svenske71

[@swaaaa11]

Ding ding ding 😊

[@michaelmassaro4375]

Magnus does not look like he’s doing SuperGreat vs MVL

[@projectmilk3267]

4:01 Why not Bg1?

[@michael-grandpamoses2571]

thought that same when I watched

[@bradmodd7856]

Quick Classical / Slow Rapid.....cmon is it maybe time to come up with a name for this time control?

[@i9ajcoi107]

🎈 (art)

[@johnmallette3143]

gg

[@PROrahul5]

Magnus 🐐

[@cdinobedwars8908]

Who won

[@shalevueable]

Draw

[@nicbentulan]

5 bad guy vs bad guy games in a row on this channel! - Axis of Evil (Good guys?) wesley so, hans niemann, bobby fischer, sergey karjakin, vlad kramnik, ian nepomniachtchi, alireza firouzja, nodirbek abdusattorov, amin tabatabaei(?), gukesh dommaraju(?), MVL(?), vidit gujrathi(?), andrii baryshpolets, vishy anand, jan-krzysztof duda, lichess, chesscube, Sergey's hypothetical pure 9LX parallel, PCAP, 9LX, christopher yoo, gata kamsky, sam sevian(?), leela, ferdinand marcos sr, ben johnson of perpetual chess podcast(?), elon musk(?), nikhil kamath, bibi netanyahu, ben shapiro, mustafa barghouti, donald trump, tristan & andrew tate - Allies of Evil (Bad guys?) magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura, garry kasparov, daniil dubov, veselin topalov, liren ding, aryan tari, vincent keymer, parham maghsoodloo(?), pranav venkatesh(?), sébastien feller(?), pentala harikrishna(?), arkady dvorkovich, peter heine nielsen, richárd rapport, ches***m, PCA, FIDE, NCFP, chess1, andrew tang, alejandro ramirez, sam shankland(?), stockfish, prospero pichay jr, lex fridman(?), mark zuckerberg(?), sumner redstone, ariel sharon, alan dershowitz, bassem yousef, george bush jr & sr, piers morgan - axis of evil (female) (good girls?) tingjie lei (or paikidze), janelle frayna, dina belenkaya, lotis key, carissa yip (or sara khadem), irina krush, robbi jade lew - allies of evil (female) (bad girls?) wenjun ju, bella khotenashvili, andrea botez, leny so, atousa pourkashiyan - nakamura, jennifer yu, nemo zhou More info: FlNsFKeq-iE

[@nicbentulan]

2nd: I believe Wesley is still the classical WFRCC while Hikaru is just the rapid WFRCC. Q1 Why weren't the 'slow rapid' games in the 2019 wfrcc considered classical when they are 60min games and the minimum for classical is 60min? Q2 Why are the 2022 WFRCC games considered 'slow rapid', as in the same category for the 2019 wfrcc 60min games, when they are actually 32.5min games? What I understand is (0,10) = Blitz [10,60) = rapid [60,120) = classical but unrated if so and so conditions [120,infinity) = classical P.S. Wesley So on Lex Fridman xcdhgq P.P.S. Interview while imprisoned Qt0S8G_fUbE Pablo Mercado: So what is your advice to the Filipino chess players? Uncle Bobby Fischer: Filipino - My advice is to give up chess and take up Fischer Random. - 2004Oct11, 15 years before nephew Wesley So became the inaugural WFRCC in CLASSICAL time controls. --- Also Hikaru's (the rapid WFRCC) wife almost beat Wesley So's (the classical WFRCC) girlfriend! 2023 USCC - Indeed Carissa Yip won and thanked Wesley So as her secret second in the 2023 USCC closing ceremony speech. But in Carissa vs Atousa, Carissa was losing most of the game. Atousa just blundered in the end. move 54 for black is an 8-move equality puzzle it's so sharp [Variant "From Position"] [FEN "1Q5k/3r1rn1/p3N3/Pp1p2P1/1q2p3/1B2R2P/5P2/6K1 b"] 1... Kh7 2. g6+ Kxg6 3. Rg3+ Kf6 4. Nxg7 Rxg7 5. Qf4+ Ke6 6. Qh6+ Kf5 7. Rxg7 Rxg7+ 8. Qxg7 Qxb3 PS xcdhgq #suggestion #womeninchess #uschesschamps #uschess #uschesschamp #uscc

[@jestermax2323]

Magnus gave exchange back when his found out his king was cut out from entering the game. Was there a way to give it back earlier in order to keep the advantage?

[@insanestuff9470]

Magnus need coaching 😂😂

[@benjaminmoine588]

Ding Liren, his forname, it's Liren not Ding.

[@tomatoisnotafruit5670]

no one gives a shit

[@xxAutoFlowxx]

Antonio. Please give exact time/increment before each game

[@jeffreychen5130]

R u his father? Bro didn’t even say please

[@dielectrictruth1040]

🙂

[@ez-zaytouniabdeljalil3108]

This match lacks accuracy.

[@michaelmassaro4375]

Yes here I am #1 since I also suggested this game

[@merdishakki]

You never did.

[@jaiminpatel7275]

This bastard has so many irrelevant comments

[@steveclark2205]

Last

[@kedarjangam]

First view

[@Phoenixz33]

Great game between the GOAT and Magnus Carlsen!

[@incognito5416]

Magnus vs Magnus??🤣🤣

[@user-bj6rf3yx6e]

​@incognito5416 you are probably idot but ok

[@harshalbhanarkar]

Well , I didn't see Garry playing this game against Magnus

[@incognito5416]

@@harshalbhanarkar garry who???

[@Christopher-pm3dy]

delusional

[@devoteeofgeorgesmiley7184]

Ding Dong. Thought the China man was dead.

[@shinobi2119]

Your ding dong is dead, old man

[@grcfalcon]

After everyone having beaten the paper champion, I was expecting Magnus to win this. Especially since he had the white pieces. Unexpected outcome.

[@AmineAmine-xr2yu]

Free Palestine ❤❤❤❤❤

[@victorgodwin4458]

From what?

[@AmineAmine-xr2yu]

@@victorgodwin4458 from zionism

[@kingpatil2882]

Where can I buy it

[@user-yb5ij5vv3y]

Dnt vote Hamas then. It's easy

[@LordFred69]

this time format doesnt seem to suit Magnus. Too slow for his rapid mindset framework and to fast for the deeper classical computational requirements

[@Fadhilah-gk2mz]

i remember magnus once said after he won the world cup on chess24, that he wanted two 45 min rapid games/day for WCC and Candidates format

[@elpollolocoman119]

Very dynamic, but Magnus missed the opportunity.

[@artificialstupidity4541]

This time format should be called modern if it becomes more frequent

[@westonking5207]

“so uh, you can resign here”

[@xx765]

Ding plays ok as long as it's not the funky 960 format

[@elgonzo5]

Sorry for the spoiler… I love a double queen castle 🏰

[@ibrahimali4390]

Anyone else a Tottenham fan ?

[@mknote]

Why do you always say they agreed to a draw and then correct yourself by saying it's a draw by three-fold repetition? Why not just say it's a draw by three-fold repetition in the first place? Maybe it'd make sense if you only did this once or twice, but you do it virtually every time it's a draw by three-fold repetition, and I don't understand why.

[@kaybee1996]

You've got a point there

[@wayneriley7367]

I’m usually a stickler for such things, but my take is that at this level they know what they’re doing, so it’s just a professional way to ask and accept a draw? My view as an interested observer.

[@SjS_blue]

but they didn't have to do the threefold repetition, and they did it knowing it is a draw, so isn't this just another way to agree to a draw ? what is the difference ?

[@wayneriley7367]

@@SjS_blue agreed, I guess professional courtesy?

[@brukujinbrokujin7802]

Magnus up the exchange but ding still holding with black pieces. This is why magnus resign from wcc, he is simply getting old

[@tomatoisnotafruit5670]

being up the exchange doesn't mean you have a winning position

[@brukujinbrokujin7802]

@@tomatoisnotafruit5670 magnus is getting old. He said it himself he is physically not on his prime anymore. He is smart to withdraw from WCC as legend, and not "former". With all these scary young players, who can blame magnus ?

[@tomatoisnotafruit5670]

@@brukujinbrokujin7802 what scary young players? none of them are good enough to make it to World Championship title yet, Magnus withrew cause playing 8 hour long theory games is just stupid and pointless, A classical game should not go longer than 3 hours from start to finish, until FIDE can fix that Magnus isn't going to be wasting his time.

[@brukujinbrokujin7802]

@@tomatoisnotafruit5670 excuse is still excuse no matter how you sugarcoat it. Magnus withdraw because he think he can lose. He wont take that risk. He is getting physically unfit. Even with nepo, almost 100 rating below him, he is struggling. Its lucky for magnus that nepo blundered.

[@tomatoisnotafruit5670]

@@brukujinbrokujin7802 lmao struggling? Magnus beat Nepo very easily, Magnus isn't afraid of Nepo or Ding or any othese other older top players, they are all way below Magnus' level. Only Fabi was very close to Magnus in 2018 and Magnus still came out on top then. Yes Magnus is getting older, but so are all these old guys and they aren't getting any better while Magnus is still very clearly the best by far. The young guys have a lot of talent but they are still some years away from challenging for World Championship. It's pretty obvious that Magnus left cause the FIDE classical format is long outdated and they refuse to change it, Magnus is big enough where he can tell FIDE to fuck off.

[@sjouanny]

I am sorry but I do not accept time limits less than 60m as being classical; I don't care what MC says.

[@user-cu5rr2ux4j]

Actual champion and fake champion

[@maheshdawani5933]

magnus actual champon right?

[@nicbentulan]

@@maheshdawani5933 lol no. magnus cheated nepo in 2021 classical WCC and lost pathetically 3x classical in a row to wesley in 2019. i find both liren & magnus fake. but magnus is more fake. liren never cheated. 5 bad guy vs bad guy games in a row on this channel! - Axis of Evil (Good guys?) wesley so, hans niemann, bobby fischer, sergey karjakin, vlad kramnik, ian nepomniachtchi, alireza firouzja, nodirbek abdusattorov, amin tabatabaei(?), gukesh dommaraju(?), MVL(?), vidit gujrathi(?), andrii baryshpolets, vishy anand, jan-krzysztof duda, lichess, chesscube, Sergey's hypothetical pure 9LX parallel, PCAP, 9LX, christopher yoo, gata kamsky, sam sevian(?), leela, ferdinand marcos sr, ben johnson of perpetual chess podcast(?), elon musk(?), nikhil kamath, bibi netanyahu, ben shapiro, mustafa barghouti, donald trump, tristan & andrew tate - Allies of Evil (Bad guys?) magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura, garry kasparov, daniil dubov, veselin topalov, liren ding, aryan tari, vincent keymer, parham maghsoodloo(?), pranav venkatesh(?), sébastien feller(?), pentala harikrishna(?), arkady dvorkovich, peter heine nielsen, richárd rapport, ches***m, PCA, FIDE, NCFP, chess1, andrew tang, alejandro ramirez, sam shankland(?), stockfish, prospero pichay jr, lex fridman(?), mark zuckerberg(?), sumner redstone, ariel sharon, alan dershowitz, bassem yousef, george bush jr & sr, piers morgan - axis of evil (female) (good girls?) tingjie lei (or paikidze), janelle frayna, dina belenkaya, lotis key, carissa yip (or sara khadem), irina krush, robbi jade lew - allies of evil (female) (bad girls?) wenjun ju, bella khotenashvili, andrea botez, leny so, atousa pourkashiyan - nakamura, jennifer yu, nemo zhou More info: FlNsFKeq-iE

[@Mingorix]

@@nicbentulanalright so why do u think liren is fake if he never cheated as what u mentioned? What is there to be fake about?

[@nicbentulan]

@@Mingorix Good question. Because Liren supports the 3 cheaters and fake WCs Magnus Garry Veselin over Wesley Bobby Vlad. You can see liren's list of role model players. Being an accomplice to a crime is a crime. Good guys vs Bad guys - Axis of Evil (Good guys?) wesley so, hans niemann, bobby fischer, sergey karjakin, vlad kramnik, ian nepomniachtchi, alireza firouzja, nodirbek abdusattorov, amin tabatabaei(?), gukesh dommaraju(?), MVL(?), vidit gujrathi(?), andrii baryshpolets, vishy anand, jan-krzysztof duda, lichess, chesscube, Sergey's hypothetical pure 9LX parallel, PCAP, 9LX, christopher yoo, gata kamsky, sam sevian(?), leela, ferdinand marcos sr, ben johnson of perpetual chess podcast(?), elon musk(?), nikhil kamath, bibi netanyahu, ben shapiro, mustafa barghouti, donald trump, tristan & andrew tate - Allies of Evil (Bad guys?) magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura, garry kasparov, daniil dubov, veselin topalov, liren ding, aryan tari, vincent keymer, parham maghsoodloo(?), pranav venkatesh(?), sébastien feller(?), pentala harikrishna(?), arkady dvorkovich, peter heine nielsen, richárd rapport, ches***m, PCA, FIDE, NCFP, chess1, andrew tang, alejandro ramirez, sam shankland(?), stockfish, prospero pichay jr, lex fridman(?), mark zuckerberg(?), sumner redstone, ariel sharon, alan dershowitz, bassem yousef, george bush jr & sr, piers morgan - axis of evil (female) (good girls?) tingjie lei (or paikidze), janelle frayna, dina belenkaya, lotis key, carissa yip (or sara khadem), irina krush, robbi jade lew - allies of evil (female) (bad girls?) wenjun ju, bella khotenashvili, andrea botez, leny so, atousa pourkashiyan - nakamura, jennifer yu, nemo zhou Note: they correspond. Eg Wesley Vs Magnus Bobby Vs Garry Hans Vs Hikaru Christopher Yoo Vs Andrew Tang Dina Vs Andrea etc More info: FlNsFKeq-iE

[@thedeadbaby]

ding getting the CCP to bribe carlsen to draw with him.

[@shinobi2119]

Now why would you say something so utterly stupid?

[@nicbentulan]

@@shinobi2119 I believe Wesley is still the classical WFRCC while Hikaru is just the rapid WFRCC. Q1 Why weren't the 'slow rapid' games in the 2019 wfrcc considered classical when they are 60min games and the minimum for classical is 60min? Q2 Why are the 2022 WFRCC games considered 'slow rapid', as in the same category for the 2019 wfrcc 60min games, when they are actually 32.5min games? What I understand is (0,10) = Blitz [10,60) = rapid [60,120) = classical but unrated if so and so conditions [120,infinity) = classical P.S. Wesley So on Lex Fridman xcdhgq P.P.S. Interview while imprisoned Qt0S8G_fUbE Pablo Mercado: So what is your advice to the Filipino chess players? Uncle Bobby Fischer: Filipino - My advice is to give up chess and take up Fischer Random. - 2004Oct11, 15 years before nephew Wesley So became the inaugural WFRCC in CLASSICAL time controls.