Mahler "Symphony No 10 (Cooke version)" Simon Rattle

Symphony No 10 by Gustav Mahler
(Revised performing version of Mahler's draft
prepared 166-74 by Deryck Cooke in
colaboration with Berthold Goldschmidt,
Colin Matthews and David Matthews)
1. Adagio
2. Scherzo
3. Purgatorio (Allegretto moderato)
4. (Scherzo)
5. Finale
Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra
Simon Rattle, conductor

[@philosopherkink]

Might be my favourite musical piece in existence. I can't think of anything that carries me through such deep ambivalent emotion, moreover it's always a visual experience. I seriously can't listen to this too often because I just get overwhelmed. Absolutely genius

[@poliorkitis]

Only a truly romantic heart could have composed this piece of music... Dear Gustav, rest in eternal peace.

[@louise_rose]

Agree. It is both ironic and oddly fitting that this music was heard in full only after half a century., after two world wars had rolled across Europe and the rest of the world and wiped out much of the cosmos that Mahler knew in his lifetime.

[@blueeyedbehr]

when the flute begins in the finale, i get the feeling that we are hearing something from the next world, something we are not yet ready to hear. as if mahler heard something too early, and thats why the symphony was unfinished.

[@johndahlen4698]

@blueeyedbehr, agree 100%. And the beauty of the flautist's playing is one of the reasons this version of the 10th is my favorite. I prefer it over the superb later Rattle recording with the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra.

[@dpbmss]

My introduction to Gustav Mahler began with this symphony, which was actually more than just a sketch before he died. A friend of mine had one of 2 copies of the original score. So it was later completed by Derek Cooke, who did a great job. And then along comes Simon Rattle and this is perhaps the best performance of this work ever. How many of you got that Mahler's 10th is about the boundary between so called romantic music and atonal music? That's what that big atonal chord is about 2/3rds through the 1st movement and recast in the 5th movement. I remain convinced that this is one of the most significant pieces of music ever written. That boundary is of course between life and death because that's also what this work is about. Meanwhile Rattle has it all and great praise for the members of the orchestra that played this amazing work. Perhaps future generations will see this transitional work with greater understanding and might love it as much as I have since I heard it first in the late 1960s. Best

[@chikyushimin]

There’s no such thing as an atonal chord

[@Jivvi]

This one? 16:44

[@chikyushimin]

@@Jivvi one chord by itself can't be atonal, tonality is a property of sounds over time, just call it 'very dissonant'

[@Jivvi]

@@chikyushimin One note can't be atonal, but a chord absolutely can be. It's not based on any particular key, and it contains several notes that aren't in the scale of the key that the surrounding music is in. It's dissonant, it's discordant, and it's also a very good example of atonality.

[@chikyushimin]

@@Jivvi so if i understand correctly you would call a #IV6#4# chord atonal too? then i can think of many romantic and even classical symphonies that modulate and so would contain atonal passages according to your poor definition of atonality.

[@nottingham_ChrisAllison]

Someone once said to me .." There's a hell of a lot more Mahler in this symphony than there is Mozart in that Requiem that nobody seems to have problem with... nuff said..This is just AWESOME STUFF!

[@sfbirdclub]

Well said. I have preached this to several (little) minds for years. And they are friends. Definition of frustrating.

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

Totally correct. Mozart's full contribution of the Requiem amounts to 30 Minutes of Music in sketch. The rest is simply not there. In Mahler's 10th the whole thing is there in sketch. Nothing is missing except contrapuntual lines and full orchestration.

[@marcallen4532]

I've seen the score and it's virtually complete with a few threads here and there unwritten, but Mahler wrote it through from beginning to end. I think this is His greatest work.

[@marcallen4532]

@@Quotenwagnerianer YES! The line in the symphony is continuous.

[@louise_rose]

Mahler would have made major revisions to the score if he had lived to complete it, especially to movements 2 and 5. The musical argument is roughly continuous in the draft, but that doesn't mean it is finished or finally thought through in all sections (Cooke and the others who prepared this version openly admit that mvt 2 was a half chaotic sketch, still in flux, and that Mahler began the orchestration of that one as a way of clearing up the muddled work draft - he was not preparing the final version of the movement at that point at all). The orchestration of the finale (done by Cooke, from some notes by Mahler) would also have been fleshed out a good deal in some passages I think. Cooke refrained from doing any orchestration touches here he did not feel 90% sure that Mahler would also have done. The work is fascinatng and has lots of great music, but it IS a torso in creative terms, essentially a cleared-up snapshot of where Mahler was when he postponed further work on it in September 1910.

[@jefverstegen6344]

16:45 That chord is just like a silk satan that commands you under his power. I swear it gives me the shivers, every single time.

[@nottingham_ChrisAllison]

I agree!!

[@ezekielbrockmann114]

Suprise!

[@deltalitprof]

It is finding out some very very bad news.

[@alecrechtiene558]

It is just freaky! I don’t know how he created that effect. Maybe it was the eerie passage leading up to it, with no clear sense of what key were in. I feel it’s like you are lost in the woods and a bear just came out of nowhere.

[@louise_rose]

It's easy to read that passage as a picture of suddenly staring into the face of Death, or the premonition/vision of some massive disaster, acts of war, mass murder or persecution (the sinking of the Titanic? the Pompeii eruption? WW1? the Holocaust?) but it could also be a reflection of the moment when he found out that his wife was carrying on an affair with Gropius, and felt that his marriage and family were undermined. We will never know for sure what he was imagining here, though it's certain (from his own jottings and exclamations in the score) that a great deal of the symphony was composed with his beloved wife in mind.

[@paulamrod537]

The adagio as the first movement is so outrageously gorgeous that it isn't describable in words.

[@marcallen4532]

It is indescribably beautiful and one of the greatest pieces ever written. Mahler asked of, I think Bruno Walter about, "Der Abschied" in ""Das Lied von der Erde" if listeners wouldn't want to commit suicide upon listening. If I could manage it, I'd like to die with this music as the last sounds I heard.

[@sshuck]

@@marcallen4532 Okay but don't die

[@nicholasfulford9681]

This is Mahler saying: "Look at the beauty. It is the one eternal reality."

[@hugoandresnunezgonzalez1949]

No

[@horstclar682]

Mahler's symphony 10 is really the greatest one in the musical world, it's his life from birth to the last point, memories and prediction of inevitable grave. There is no need in words, music itself says all and everything. And mastership of Sir Simon Rattle makes a brilliant masterpiece of it. Thanks for giving us such wonderful possibility to enjoy it.

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[@74dingbat]

Mahler moves me like no other composer does. My wife thinks its heavy and sad, it will touch people in different ways,but its like meat and drink to me.

[@jackhousman6637]

+Brian Lewis I know what you mean. When I was about 14, I heard and saw Erich Leinsdorf conduct the 3rd, on TV. I didn't get it, at the time. Then, at 18 I bought a recording of Das Lied... The Rosebud performance in the old Turnabout label. I read the notes and thought "Hm. Chinese poetry. May be interesting" My mouth must have fallen open. In the first bars, before the tenor entered, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Have you ever heard a piece of music and said to yourself "He wrote that for ME!!"? That was my reaction. And that is how I have felt about Mahler's music ever since. That was fifty-six years ago. I didn't get to this symphony until a few years ago. Only two movements were available, back then, of course. Boulez conducted the first movement during his short tenure with the NTPhil. in the seventies. Those map have been the first performances in the US, unless Lenny did it. Take care, Keep the faith.

[@charleswise6156]

I believe Eugene Ormandy conducted the American premiere of M10 in Cooke's performing version. Lenny was opposed to performing M10 and only performed the Adagio relatively late in his career.

[@yvesgerard1308]

Aaaaah ! women ... Sad perhaps ... but no heavy .... Surely Not in the adagios ! You are in the right way ... " le chant de la terre " is the most beautiful work of Mahler ...

[@logodaedalist]

I am addicted to his sixth symphony ... God what a work

[@mjnyc8655]

The again, I've known two women who were ardent Mahler fans.

[@forcedemodo]

Could you imagine if Mahler ever finished this? Dear lord it would've been mind blowing, but I still love this version if only because it's the closest we may ever get to hearing Mahler's true vision of his 10th (although I liked Barshai's version too).

[@johnfromvirginia5794]

Yes. I can't even imagine what additional great works he might have written had he not died prematurely in 1911 at only 50 years of age.

[@removankebabzic887]

Barshai's version is garbage

[@marcallen4532]

This symphony is complete as far as I'm concerned. Mahler's greatest work.

[@user-sx2hr5xk2v]

1. Adagio 00:00 2. Scherzo 24:01 3. Purgatorio (Allegretto moderato) 35:35 4. (Scherzo) 39:38 5. Finale 51:28

[@mjnyc8655]

+청음E The first movement is of zero length??

[@user-sx2hr5xk2v]

MJ NYC nono, The first mvnt is 'start' at 00:00

[@mjnyc8655]

청음E Ah, don't they all.

[@loscantos]

you serious?

[@terry9587]

@@mjnyc8655 r u joking?

[@MegaCirse]

Comme la première lumière du crépuscule, cette œuvre sonore ouvre les yeux à de vieilles promesses et à toutes les anomalies bienfaisantes de la nature. Evocatrices de pouvoirs au-delà de l'observation, ces pièces tirent les ficelles du cœur, attirent les nostalgies et réveillent les tourbillons, les vies écorchés et la torpeur des veilleurs tourmentés 🌺

[@wayneteachey2714]

For me, the best performance I've ever heard, particularly the flute solo!

[@domila5316]

Cooke did an amazing job, because he didn't want to finish the symphony, but he wanted to make everything Mahler produced in this symphony executable and appreciable. In fact, if you look at Mahler's score, you find that the composer worked in all the movements, in fact the second and third movements were already partially orchestrated, especially the second. The last two, instead, are in a reduced score, but both have been completed in all their themes and in all their structure. So ignoring the last four movements of this symphony means ignoring all the splendid themes that Mahler has included in this work.

[@thekaiseriswiser4451]

Humans always pursue things they can't reach.

[@mlindeblad1]

An evidence that there must be a heaven - an afterlife - as Mahler's music intimates

[@Whoiswatanuki]

The legend ends, and history begins.

[@chel3SEY]

Wonderful. Interesting that someone as prominent as Rattle is among the minority of conductors willing to conduct the whole symphony. Thanks so much for posting this.

[@marcallen4532]

His was the first recording I heard. Still my favorite.

[@louise_rose]

This is an early recording of his, from around 1980 I think, and at that time the Cooke version was more controversial than it is now (though many conductors still refuse to perform more than mvt 1). In 2000 Rattle made a new recording with the Berlin Philharmonic, I just had it on loan from the local library last month and it's a great take too of course.

[@zambu623]

Thanks God for send us such a great composer .

[@johnreddington5533]

I love this symphony Derek Cooke has done a great job. There is some sublime music in the first movement but I’m always on edge waiting for the loud discordant cry of despair around 17 minutes after that I can relax and enjoy the rest of the symphony.

[@tiborvisi7438]

Cooke must've been a great man sticking to Mahler's music as much as humanly possible.

[@rolleicanon]

@@tiborvisi7438 Yes, he was a great man. Also because he wrote The Language of Music, a unique work.

[@raylangley405]

Saddest time for Mahler , most beautiful Adagio sublime ! next too Beethoven's 7th Adagio beautiful beautiful full of tears in the rain

[@manunanakiki3730]

sir Simon Rattle the Master, a great performance, thanks for upload

[@massimolavena8906]

questa sinfonia mi porta in mondi lontani quanto poche altre

[@bobstaubin7509]

Cooke did us all a service - and yes it is great this piece of music is alive. To the 'anylisers' below - Mahler re-thought classical harmony - i.e 9th - and this one if he had fisnished it - it would not have been Schonberg or Stravinsky - ONLY MAHLER - shame we never heard it. The Cantaible is LOVELY - and only GM could do that.

[@suedwestfunk]

It's nothing but gratitude and happiness I feel hearing this masterpiece.

[@forcedemodo]

There does seem to be this heavy love of being alive in much of this, despite the loneliness and despair in the more dissonant passages. He did seem to be more optimistic towards life, looking at how most of his work ends (for the most part).

[@andrewsmith691]

I agree. Whether or not the work as Cooke's performing version is an accurate representation of what Mahler would have finally produced notwithstanding, it is a wonderful contribution in its own right. Detractors impress me as tiresome curmudgeons.

[@henrilese751]

Agreed. I am glad that Cooke established a performing version. This is a masterpiece, with many beautiful passeges.

[@wendychen5779]

I was lucky to be among the audience listening to Simon Rattle (as a Principal Guest Conductor) performing Mahler "10th" (Cooke version, not this "composite" version) with the Los Angeles Phil. That was before he was appointed to lead the Berlin Phil. To this day I cherish the memory of that wonderful concert in Los Angeles. Listening to this upload brings back that precious memory. Thanks for the upload.

[@louise_rose]

Both Mahler and Rattle are just fantastic. I just had the CD he recorded of this with the Berlin PO in 2000 (years before he became their chief conductor) on loan from the public library last month, after my aunt passed away in old age. This really is an amazing work (even if it is a torso, in creative terms) and riveting in performance!

[@davidrehak3539]

Gustav Mahler:10.fisz-moll Szimfónia (Deryck Cooke feldolgozásában) 1.Andante - Adagio 00:00 2.Scherzo I 24:01 3.Purgartorio:Allegretto moderato 35:35 4.Scherzo II:Non troppo vivace 39:38 5.Finálé:Lento, pesante 51:28 Bouremouthi Szimfonikus Zenekar Vezényel:Sir Simon Rattle

[@tiborvisi7438]

Köszönöm!

[@nilla38f]

Absolutely stunning......

[@emilianocorradi4079]

No words... Thanks for posting this awesome masterpiece...

[@gerardwoillet2163]

D.Cooke grand musicologue,donne vie a une ultime oeuvre symphonique complète de Gustav Malher qui n'avait achevé que l'adagio , a l'identique sur des élément musicaux laissés de la main du compositeur . Une formidable réussite inscrite au patrimoine de la musique !!

[@perliperl877]

une oeuvre magnifique et impressionnante, Mahler se surpasse en poussant son langage jusqu'aux frontières de l'atonalisme

[@MrBreizhBlood]

gerard woillet bravo

[@allansegall4502]

Mahler is unequivocally the greatest symphonic composer after Beethoven.

[@INdepablos]

before Beethoven.

[@Icedmanta]

@@INdepablos Hard agree. Beethoven is great, but Mahler exists on another level for me. Then again, I am also a horn player...

[@gezobel1563]

Nah, it's Bruckner for me!

[@aposteriori1594]

I love how the end feels somewhat incomplete; one moment, the music moves, then it stops, like how, in life, we can never be sure we will be "finished", it just ends.

[@kylemeyer3920]

The end is anything but incomplete: that final, plagal cadence-that desperate outburst in B major with that achingly suspended Ab in the violins, is Mahler’s farewell. His manuscript, if you look at it, was pretty clear in that he wanted these bars to be the final to the movement, if not the entire symphony. Also: trombones often symbolize death in his music, so that last afterthought they have following the cadence-the Db-Ab-Db-Ab-Db, is one last lullaby before eternal rest, so to speak. It’s tragic, yet beautiful-like most of his music.

[@remomazzetti8757]

I disagree completely . The ending is one of the most satisfying and definitive closings he ever wrote, far more satisfying than the end of the 9th Symphony in my opinion. And the final leap up and descent with the 5 note motive that permeates the the last three movements, is a subtle reference to the climax of Isolda's Liebestod, including the all important plagal resolution which Mahler saved for this extraordinary moment in his last and greatest masterpiece.

[@andresmorales5111]

Last mov is so violent and so tender your whole life is left in threads

[@flylooper]

What a piece! Thank God it survived. I truly think Mahler would have gone over the edge in into pure atonality had he lived. He was moving in that direction with this work.That incredible series of massive chords starting at 16:45 and 17:30....He seems to be shaking his fist at God himself. Mahler has always been about extremes in his works.

[@pocayonom]

I think mahler would certainly have adopted atonality, but he would never abbandoned tonality to express the beauty of life. (sorry for my english)

[@paulybarr]

Nearly perfect! You just need to add ' have', to make the past conditional - 'He would never have abandoned... Isn't this a wonderful, terrifyingly beautiful work?!

[@peteklat]

Mahler extended tonality to include atonal harmonies. Schoenberg made a huge mistake in abandoning tonality.

[@chrisgordon6599]

Schönberg never abandoned tonality. Totally false to say he did. He embraced every expression of musical thought. and only sought to teach others to seek the best (if composers - of themselves) in an ocean of musical dross and mundanity.

[@peteklat]

You should know what his intentions in creating serialism were - to exclude any triadic structures from his music - you can see that from the rows themselves. He was rather disdainful of composers like Sibelius and Britten who remained committed tonal composers.

[@BalbirSingh-tt8rv]

Good wishes from India to Sir Simon Rattle.

[@eastwood1941]

To me the Finale is the finest movement in all of Mahler's symphonies. It starts with that wonderful flute solo (53:57), and ends with a great sigh of relief - or is it despair? (1:14:52), not particularly well expressed in this performance.

[@ALEXGUMA]

+Derek Rawlins Hi Derek. I feel exactly the same about the flute solo, and it makes me cry immediately..so simple,soft,the gates of heaven are open and there's finally peace. This is what I feel, as the final step in life moving forward for a new step in heaven. Was Mahler's purpose for this intense moment? Thanks for your comment.

[@dzc46278]

On the last page is written by Mahler himself, between the staves, "To live for you! To die for you!" and then "Almschied" his nickname for his wife. So it is a declaration of love

[@andresmorales5111]

It starts with huge blows of percussion first and the flute comes in later consoling the tortured soul.

[@olivierbeltrami]

That flute solo, and the flutes playing in parallel seconds at the end of Die Frau Ohne Schatten ... wow !

[@annejones597]

I find the finale soul destroying and uplifting in equal measure. So much of it works on me through the changing harmonies in the lower registers, as opposed to the alternatively sobbing and soaring higher strings. I can never listen to this without ending up as a limp rag. Rattle's version was the first I ever heard, and it remains my benchmark. This is what music should be.

[@charlotte77343]

Musica tan bella y emotiva.

[@PaulIbberson]

I can never decide between the 1st movt of this and the last of the 9th... utterly sublime, and this is a fine recording of Cooke's 1st revision

[@hugoaragor967]

I think end of 9 is out of this tangible world. It reaches the whole painful soul of a suffering human being. Here at 10 we face the fear of definitive death. Both touch do much so much no words can Express.

[@removankebabzic887]

Last movement of the 9th is totally boring. Not comparable to 1st movement of 10th

[@writeract2]

What stunning work by Mahler - all his work sounds like film scores to me but of course he came first.

[@pcardriff7278]

I keep trying to understand this piece, and since there are a number of different versions, I suppose it's best to hear it all. There is definitely the grave, literally, the approach of death. There is acceptance. But there is also a lot of confusing finality that seems not to make a unified whole and I wonder what can it all mean?

[@alessandro6024]

Sublime mahlerpersempre 😎

[@user-qs6pd6xk3i]

Thanks a lot for posting this! 💖 Very-very beautiful! Enduring masterpiece 💖

[@sjrbaps6013]

«Esa podía ser una acción que fue repetida sin final en cualquier era... en cualquier lugar. Los humanos persiguen cosas que no pueden alcanzar. ¿No simboliza este único corazón dichos anhelos?»

[@hootenhtn]

The most intense recording of Cooke's revised score is Kurt Sanderling's 1978 performance with his then Berlin Symphony Orchestra, currently available on Berlin Classics. Sanderling uses the revised Cooke score as his basis, but does add a few very subtle amendments in scoring, mostly when spots are bare, which to me, makes all the difference in the world.

[@jacksprat9052]

This is a good one.

[@ezekielbrockmann114]

27:51 A nice little quote from Symphony 4.

[@removankebabzic887]

wow

[@janouglaeser8049]

Also 41:25

[@bozicapintar9436]

Sa njime počinje novo doba klasične muzike ....

[@mariacortes7906]

Ilustrativo!!

[@andresmorales5111]

Last mov blows me away

[@originaltommy]

It's transcendental.

[@dtyerisd]

Here classical harmony ends. With a sublime testament.

[@marcelouz1]

There are two Mahler's Symphonies which always make me cry in the last movments, the second and the this one. This is the version if Deryck Cooke , but sometimes i prefer the version of Rudolf Barshai, it sounds the rest of the movments more Mahlerian, but that is a little bit subjective . The "andante" first movment is the only score written by Mahler's hand.It is the most dramatic Symphony because he knew it that it was his last testament to his beloved wife Alma Mahler . She was about to burn the score by suggestion of Bruno Walter, fortunately she ignored him, and so now we are luky peolple of listening now this masterpiece .

[@isaiasramosgarcia9771]

beloved & strangled in her soul & vocation, she was a beter composer than him

[@jeffreykalb8810]

On what basis could one make such an outlandish claim? That's all "what if?" For every master composer there are a hundred wannabes who show promise, but do not have the promethean fire. What stopped her after his death from composing?

[@isaiasramosgarcia9771]

that is true. Maybe she losed! the desire to compose

[@TheStockwell]

Thank you for writing that! She was a clever dilettante but not a serious composer. She had nearly half a century after Mahler's death to compose. Blaming him for her problems is a very mid-20th century obsession. By now, we know her better than that.

[@spyridonchristodoulou5623]

marcelouz1 III

[@nicholasfulford6753]

Mahler is symphonic LSD to me - totally state altering and magnificent in its ability to play me into sublime states of being.

[@rinosquarzoni9438]

questa decima di Mahler. E il suo testamento spirituale.

[@alessandro6024]

Concordo 😎

[@andrewwilliams9599]

The fifth and final movement begins with a military drum. This may be a reference to a funeral procession that Mahler once observed: on February 16, 1908, while staying with Alma in the Hotel Majestic on Central Park West in New York City, the funeral cortège of Deputy Fire Chief Charles W. Kruger (whose death in the line of duty inspired the creation of the Manhattan Firemen's Memorial) stopped below their hotel window. From his room on the 11th floor, the only sound that could be heard was the muffled stroke of a large bass drum preceding a moment of silence.

[@TenorCantusFirmus]

Might be just a reconstruction, but to me it sounds like Mahler's most sincere Symphony, almost like an extremal emotional and creative outlet. Mostly gone is his usual, acid irony, it's something like a melanconic, bitter farewell to life.

[@46metube]

give it time and it becomes exceptional, like being alive everyday.

[@mashu1943]

ベルリンフイルを引き連れてラトル来日しないかなあ。生で聴きたい。マーラーを。２番が大好き。

[@carlconnor5173]

Conniving up.

[@yulaserio]

I feel like the 9th is a man dying. But in the 10th he is already dead. It's a man finally taking a rest while remembering with sadness in the afterlife (why is the third movement called "purgatory" if not?). And it's more or less what happened. Mahler was dead and someone else had to finish his work. He is really talking to us after death.

[@MattLamPiano]

Did Simon Rattle add the percussions at 1:03:43? I don't think they are in the score?

[@pianistegolfeur]

La 10ème symphonie n'est pas des plus connues, et je me demande même si Bersntein l'a enregistrée, dirigée, certainement. Pour le moment nous avons la chance d'avoir celle de Rattle.

[@knd1940]

This was a landmark recording and it's good to have it on KZbin but the accompanying photos are a little misleading: Simon Rattle was only 25 when he recorded this in 1980. It would be nice to see pictures of him as he looked then.

[@bobstaubin7509]

As Wordsworth stated many moons ago - "somethings are just too deep for tears" Mahler's andante catabilbe in the finale of this and Beethoveen's in the 9th - 3rd stanza - hard to call. Slight nod to LVB - but Mahler's/Cooke orchestration makes it close!

[@jeffreykalb9752]

You can hear in the Adagio the mockery of the world alternating with the suffering of his heart.

[@74dingbat]

Thanks for your comments................must listen toy the one you mention x

[@ljiljanastanic9076]

Perfect interpretation

[@pega17pl]

Of what?

[@ljiljanastanic9076]

pega17pl Totally performance !

[@removankebabzic887]

I prefer Abbado

[@janouglaeser8049]

​@@removankebabzic887 Abbado didn't even record the 10th besides the Adagio, what are you talking about?

[@pega17pl]

What never existed cannot be restored! - Heinz

[@user-lj1sc9bs4t]

もう魂だけの曲ですね...そこに本人はもう居ない...

[@user-lj1sc9bs4t]

マーラーの人生の思いの果てを記した遺作だと私は思います

[@ericmeelker7919]

Eric Meelker symphony n° 10 manque dans le version "complete works" je peux ecouter Mahler chaque jour !

[@farmertice7064]

Mahler could have written great movie scores.

[@Balfour.]

1:10:25 shivers

[@jean-jacquessimon6703]

Il existe plusieurs versions de cette magnifique symphonie dont Mahler n'avait achevé que le premier mouvement et le très court "Purgatorio". On entend ici la seconde finition qu'en a produit le musicologue et spécialiste de Mahler, D. Cooke. On ne saurai trop recommander le commentaire modeste et précis que celui-ci a livré de son travail depuis qu'Alma Mahler lui a révélé les esquisses des mouvements, déjà élaborés à la mort prématurée du génial compositeur.

[@jean-jacquessimon6703]

Il s'agit du premier enregistrement fait par Simon Rattle de la 10ème symphonie ; il avait alors 25 ans : qui a eu l'idée saugrenue de retenir de lui une photo du sexagénaire qu'il est devenu ?

[@robburfy1888]

Simon Rattle uses the same hairdresser as Brian May of Queen.

[@JoelLeBras]

And Beethoven too.

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

Beethoven had no curls.

[@tiborvisi7438]

Probably lol

[@marshallartz395]

Rob Burfy: Good to know!

[@ketmaniac]

And my gran.

[@andycobain9605]

El comienzo de Adagio es el versículo primero y segundo de la Torah

[@pierrebrld6883]

54 mn , magnifique

[@_greenkelly]

'The Scream' 17:45 ??

[@petertschann-grimm1468]

It just gave me chills

[@patrickcardiff7811]

There is no doubt it's a masterpiece because it came from Mahler's head. But what does it MEAN?

[@EASYTIGER10]

I'm guessing you're not getting replies because people don't understand the question. What are you asking?

[@bobstaubin7509]

He loved his wife - who was a cheater and and heartbreaker - but he loved her!

[@windstorm1000]

It's about his love for alma. In this sense it's his most personal symphony. More from his heart.

[@andrewwilliams9599]

"A symphony should not mean, but be." (Apologies to Archibald MacLeish)

[@jeffreykalb9752]

Beethoven: Heroic deeds. Mahler: Heroic suffering.

[@eladjohn491]

פששששש אחלה סימפוניה

[@INdepablos]

Para mí esta enorme sinfonía es la que mejor expresa el inmenso drama interior y la riqueza anímica de Mahler. Esta debería denominarse "Trágica" y no la sexta, con independencia de su autoría.

[@alesonko]

IGUAL es GENIAL

[@howwhenrosyorozco2635]

Es una pena que no la pudiese acabar :( Quien sabe de qué nos perdimos si lo hubiera terminado.

[@Discovery_and_Change]

54:06 flute | 1:03:43 spookiness | 1:04:05 drop |

[@davidgerhardus3885]

53:56

[@SuperAsalvador]

1. Adagio 00:00 2. Scherzo I 24:00 3. Purgatorio (Allegretto moderato) 35:36 4. Scherzo II 39:39 5. Finale 51:29 Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra Simon Rattle, conductor

[@tiborvisi7438]

Thank you for the tracklist!

[@evanbradley2790]

Can someone tell me if that's Alma at 16:45 ?

[@conradthe2]

Dang it!!! Stupid Timpani gets me every time in the finale

[@alecrechtiene558]

16:45 I legit get scared every time I hear this. Mahler was deeply troubled.

[@alecrechtiene558]

1:10:24 seriously if this doesn’t move you what does?!?! You can hear the spookiness of the inevitability of death.

[@vocation7124]

31:44 mahler no.9 2nd

[@removankebabzic887]

cant hear it

[@sandroottaviani3197]

Gli ultimi 4 movimenti si assomigliano tutti, penso che Mahler li avrebbe resi più espressivi

[@rodneywood6188]

A pity the music is interrupted by adverts. !

[@sammysparks3814]

Who else is here because they read "Songs of Earth and Power" by Greg Bear? 🎶🎶

[@zanelowrymusic3793]

John Williams was probably heavily influenced by Mahler. His film scores share a lot of similar orchestration and melodic elements, especially in some parts of this symphony.

[@ALEXGUMA]

I agree, as an example listen to the last track from "Minority Report". Williams meets Mahler's adagietto from 5th Symphony.

[@shijoejoseph2011]

Also a whole lot more by Stravinsky, and that is not limited to The Rite of Spring.

[@flylooper]

It's not uncommon for one composer to quote another. After all, Mahler quotes the opening four notes of Beethoven's 5th in the opening 4 notes of his own 5th Symphony.

[@ALEXGUMA]

So true. and the beginning is like a funeral march and also the voice of the fate.

[@maksimliakh3907]

this is a pretty weak point, since the majority of this work was orchestrated by cooke.

[@removankebabzic887]

Hey, compare 37:55 (3rd movt) to 59:55 (5th movt)

[@lotuschan55]

뭔가 난해한 거 같으면서도 좋은 거 같다.

[@user-sx2hr5xk2v]

+시옷토끼 말러는 난해한 것도 아니지...

[@lotuschan55]

청음E 근데 난 고전파와 낭만 이 사이에서 주로 들으니 내 입장에선 난해하게 들리지 않겠음?

[@user-sx2hr5xk2v]

+시옷토끼 그러면 엄청 난해하게 들리겠네 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@leolhchan1]

Is this Cooke II or III?

[@classicnorthwest]

Cooke II with alterations based on Kurt Sanderling's recording and advice from Berthold Goldschmidt (who later incorporated some of those changes into Cooke III).

[@jonathanruano4973]

Mahler's Symphony 9 was about illness and dying with some Satanic overtones. The Tenth symphony, for me, was about the afterlife and the plunge into the inferno.

[@bobstaubin7509]

disagree - it was about his love for 'Almschi"

[@windstorm1000]

@@bobstaubin7509 I too disagree. It's about alma. Maybe mortality in spots but loves about leaving too.

[@Egobaldo]

I like the 4th too.

[@terryhammond1253]

Mahler was clearly moving in the direction of atonality with his 10th.

[@davpal3]

This is a good point, especially given that Schoenberg wrote Gurrelieder which is as tonal as Mahler 10. We will never know. I have played flute/piccolo in Mahler 1,2,4,5,6,8 and 10. I have also played Wozzeck, Lulu, Moses and Aaron. Loved every minute of all those.

[@sergiocabada2385]

oh yes, I love having classical music interrupted by annoying af ads. Turn off the ads!

[@bcing75]

Ah the benefits of KZbin Premium..

[@alecrechtiene558]

They can’t, KZbin just changed the rules so they can’t get rid of the ads even if the creator of the video doesn’t want it.

[@peabrane8067]

RIP Kobe.

[@AlejandroPerez-sr1mk]

Somebody got here fr selena gomez??

[@pocayonom]

Alejandro Perez finally I find one person that listens to both pop and classical.