Mai in Street Fighter, but at What Cost? | SF6 Season 2 DLC Review

[@nugieboy]

Woke up and recorded this video after sleeping on it for the weekend. Many thoughts came to mind when I woke up lol and for the record I don’t hate Mai ❤ EDIT: I’m seeing some confusion about my statement about Mai’s popularity - I am not by any means implying sakurai made Mai popular, I meant /I/ only learned about how popular Mai was because of the backlash to Mai not making it into smash, hope that clears it up. In fact, his statement addressed how popular she already was

[@ektran4205]

the director of street fighter 87 left capcom and went to snk then made fatal fury street fighter 6 takes place 10 years after SFIII

[@Returned2Flourish]

Most of these commenting people don't know how tied Fatal Fury and Street Fighter are. It's dope that they added Terry and Mai! Can't wait for a Capcom vs SNK3 and come on you know SF6 going to have at least 5 seasons. We need more rival school characters added as well.

[@jonnybravo595]

agree, well said

[@Returned2Flourish]

I never thought I would see the day people would complain about SF actually getting guest characters. Smfh

[@JalauroUrsa]

Yeah, crazy, right?

[@elmatasesues3630]

Well it’s not like they’re LEAVING OUT FAN FAVOURITES. Come on. There are some characters who should be here because of chronology, ones fans have been looking forward to. ..like my main, Alex. Idc if he’s *just* mid with the last sfv patch, I enjoyed playing his clunky ass in sfIII, and there are a lot of other alex mains waiting patiently, not to mention older fans who were there before sean was patched to oblivion. Plus sean is ken’s disciple, there’s tons more story there than with Mai

[@Returned2Flourish]

@@elmatasesues3630 I love Sean and Alex! I wanted them to come this season as well, but this game will have 4-5 seasons minimum. Be patient 🙏🏽

[@JalauroUrsa]

@@elmatasesues3630 Chronological Logic went out the window, when Bison came back, instead of letting a new evil take over. At this point they could put Bloody Roar, Fighting Vipers, and Eternal Champions characters in, and people will still buy and play the damn game. I really don't care who they add, anymore, I already got the Platinum Trophy, so it don't matter.

[@kingchris1353]

People complain like they know what they're talking about, play the game and win evo or any sf6 competition and then talk crap about sf6 but if one suck then stfu and practice some more. Smh

[@pkphantom]

Sakura's a fan favorite. They aren't leaving her out, no chance. She'll just pop up later

[@deanbrooks7297]

They left out Cody, Feilong, Guy, Rolento, yun/yang, viper, Sagat and Dudley…. Doubt she’s coming back

[@VitunVatiVille]

@@deanbrooks7297 This game is barely out of its diaper character wise and this game is going to be around for a very long time so they will add lots of characters before they even think about making next street fighter.

[@devinpaesterlare2287]

​@@deanbrooks7297 Sakura's far more popular than at least most of the characters you mentioned. She'll be back, you can count on that.

[@rawrdino7046]

Sakura was in every alpha game, and was added as a character in 4 and 5

[@pkphantom]

@devinpaesterlare2287 Segat, Viper and Dudley are pretty popular though, but yes, their popularity pales in comparison to Sakura's. Honestly, I hope they all make it in. I'd love to see what kind of life they carve out for themselves in Metro City, and I'd especially love to see how Sakura and Lifen get along. I can see her getting really frustrated at how strong Sakura is despite them being around the same age 🤣

[@jesiachord3179]

Rugal would have been the ultimate guest character and a big parallel to bison. Would have been so much better than having two regular guests, just one boss guest. The hype would have been insane.

[@ixcoatl0013]

You are right

[@gv82089]

Nah, a Fatal Fury character being the first guest is just perfect

[@sonic-bb]

guest characters are cool. BUT, i HATE that in a lot of fighting games lately, especially mortal kombat, Guest characters take up HALF or near half of the dlc characters. We dont even have the full roster of main characters or returning characters yet. Then they add guest characters? it feels like we get cheated out of characters we actually want. I feel like guest characters also defeat chances of devs creating new original characters. Because they have to choose between returning fan favorites or creating a new character with only 2 slots to do it since the other 2 slots are reserved for guest characters. The smart choice of course is to bring back fan favorites. So yeah, guest characters are cool but also lame

[@Eliburgo]

Only Soulcaliber ever did guest characters right

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

i think having the two of them is really cool they just should have had it be 5 instead of 4 I feel like that would have fit better

[@seizureparty286]

M Bison got given/taught (its not really explained with any other wording aside from "given") the ability to use soul power/psycho power by some guy who's name is never told to us, after which Bison finds out psycho power derives energy from the negativity in the world and himself, and soul power derives energy from the positivity in the world and himself. So he removes all of the soul power (the good shit) to remove the balance inside of him and let the negative energy grow in power. And so this is where the canon is kinda confusing, in some stuff its said that Rose just comes into existence as the manifestation of Bison's soul power being ripped out of himself, and in other content it's shown that he got saved by a group of Romani travelers after being in a town that blew up or something, and that as he got better he took Rose as an apprentice who he then transferred all of his soul power into. Given that Rose has become much more fleshed out as an entity in recent games, my guess is that Capcom is going with the 'Rose was and is a separate entity to Bison and not a personification of all his good'. With this new Bison though, it seems like he's just become fully reset as a person. He's shown using both psycho and soul power throughout his moveset, also there's more proof in how he uses soul power in how he was teased in World Tour. When the Akuma update dropped, they actually tease this hooded figure reviving a horse in Mexico, something not really related to the 'big, evil, negative, destructive' energy that psycho power is related to. On top of randomly reviving horses though, seems in the dev blog for him he's simplified his goals in life. Rather than world domination, he's just become a scary hobo who wants to learn what will make him smile. I'm personally hoping this is the last of the psycho/soul power characters in the game, but I'd imagine Rose and Menat are too favored to skip out on. I'm just hoping G/Q gets in! I feel like G got heavily robbed due to the rough production of SFV, so hoping that maybe they drop this whole buildup of the return of Shadaloo now that their leader has become a hippie who doesn't care for them anymore and instead maybe go back to G wanting to commit world instrumentality in the Street Fighter world lol. Rose getting in would actually likely tease at G coming in shortly after cuz of how she teased a larger role for him in SFV. Lots to look forwards to!

[@nugieboy]

Thanks for the detailed breakdown, but why do you not want psycho/soul power anymore?

[@seizureparty286]

@@nugieboy well, to be fair my argument wouldve been along the lines of 'well we've already seen enough of it and how it's used among characters like JP, Ed, and now Bison', but realistically after thinking about it now, Menat and Rose do actually bring an entirely separate side in the form of Soul Power, being used defensively or just being the only puppet character in SF lol. In all honesty, I might've just said that as a thinly veiled way of saying that I don't want any other character to get in that aren't the ones I want lol, is it so wrong to want a charge boxer over another purple/blue energy user!

[@nugieboy]

@seisureparty286 nah preach, I just felt like they could always do new spins on it. it would be cool if bison or a new character could use both in a new toolset tbh

[@seizureparty286]

@@nugieboy for sure! I'm honestly kind of tired of seeing Rose around, feel like Capcom brings her back for the 5 people who've mained her since the Alpha series lol. Menat though is a very interesting an incredibly unique character for sure though. Honestly more than anything, I'd love it if they made a brand new character that uses soul power in a way that isn't delicate. Like I get that that's generally how soul and psycho is differentiated through animations and attacks, but in the sense that psycho is overwhelming bad and negativity, soul is overwhelming good and positivity. So my idea of something I'd love to see is like just an overwhelmingly brutal and oppressive character using soul power, obsessed with cleansing the world, almost like an anti-version of old M Bison. In a sense that description slightly relates to Q lol, but idk, just came up off the top of my head.

[@nugieboy]

That’s a cool idea, I really love the idea of “righteous justice” think corrupt paladins and stuff, using the powers of “good” in really powerful ways, that’s why at first I was like why not include it but I was coming from it at the angle of a new character

[@greek1237]

Loved Mai, I really can't wait to see her in these updated graphics.

[@nugieboy]

I can’t lie, the internet might break

[@greek1237]

@@nugieboy That is the point, Mai is one of the sexiest video game characters every created, the devs know what they are doing putting Mai in this game. Do you recall the reaction to Cammy in her Classic outfit?? And though I loved Cammy, she is nowhere near Mai to sex appeal.

[@knarrow0222]

Mai's the reason I immediatley bought the Year 2 pass. It's a major win IMO and I don't give a damn what you or others say. Guest characters are more hype regardless of what others might say.

[@nugieboy]

Power to you, like I said I don’t hate Mai and I would’ve preferred Mai over terry, it’s just the fact we got both at once 💀

[@DoomyRei]

Guest characters are awesome I love it

[@Antidoxy]

But why does nobody talk adopt the pricing? They sell 4 characters to us for the amount of the whole standard game of 18 characters! That's what bugs me the most!

[@hanzhovaj4129]

Since the first Fatal Fury, we've always wanted to know and wonder what it would be like if Terry was in Street Fighter fighting against Ryu or Ken, and now that we got that there are some fans that complain and complain about it. Kind of ungrateful to be honest. Also I think after all these years, it's time for some legacy characters to die off already so there will be new faces to take over and further progress the story line. I was hoping the guest characters would be Scorpion and Sub Zero so the whole Internet will crash.

[@ETG715]

Man I feel like this is more of a rant video then sending a message and come on Terry and Mai will do great in this game they are the second guest characters to ever be in a street fighter game last guest character was in street fighter 5 and yeah Elena was kinda a random choice but it doesn't matter because of Terry and Mai Being in the game and everyone wanted M Bison to be in the game but then the story of street fighter 5 kinda ruined those chances but M Bison is back so that didn't matter anyway

[@nugieboy]

I did say I was going to rant lolol, I wish I said I had faith in what Terry and Mai were gonna be in SF6 bc all of the other DLC and base roster have been great, it’s moreso just kinda wanting other sf6 chars earlier on

[@Hunter-zb5wl]

I think the characters are ok. It does suck seeing 2 guest characters out of a 4 character pass because there is still many holes that 'need' to be filled (need as in fan favorites and/or story related; i.e. menat, sakura, c. viper, 3S characters...). I like your point about Elena setting up for a 3S season (or at very least 3S dominant season, I'd love to see Viper or Sakura). Once the trailers and in-game footage for Terry, and especially Mai, drop, people will change their tune. If Capcom can space the marketing and releases right, I think the wait won't be terrible; though more in-game content like Costumes and World Tour updates (collaborations that don't break the bank too!) will help. I really hope they chill on guest characters though. If they HAVE to, add more characters for overall pass, like 5 or 6. Massive copium take, but the pass being 10 dollars more = hidden character??!?!?

[@syncr0904]

If they do what they did for season 2 for season 3 then we should get another character close to when we get Elena. that might explain why Elena isnt that exciting to close out the season

[@superpowerman4354]

I think one of the only reasons why people were skeptical on Bison was cuz he’s supposed to be dead in the lore. Other than that he’s One of the 4 Kings. The Kings are OG my friend. Dictator, Claw, Boxer and Sagat.

[@zhukov2116]

I also feel like there might be a secret new character getting dropped at some point this season.

[@rscyth1012]

This underwhelmed tf out me man I really wanted Sakura for S2

[@KenMasters.]

A 36-year-old Sakura in Street Fighter 6…

[@georgesmith5201]

I played SFIV, not SFV, so I don't know if there's a possibility they'd drop unannounced characters, but guest characters occupying slots is odd to me. Why not 4 SF characters + 2 guest characters. 1 year for 2 SF characters is wild.. hell, a whole year for just 4 SF characters kinda sucks too.

[@lukejones7164]

I really wanna see Sakura, Sean and Karin for Season 3

[@alexvelez5643]

I only hate Mai because it should have been the return of Maki! With Metro City being such a predominant place in World Tour you would think we would "Finally" get the remaining FF cast. They did Carlos dirty too😒

[@cashbag]

I feel like this season pass is appealing to old heads and coomers... so its probably the right idea

[@Warzol]

not gonna lie, people bitchin n moaning about guest characters crossing over to "their game" shouldn't be a thing at all. like we're not in a console war anymore cause both xbox and playstation going to shit and nintendo is just stingy till they see actually something worth doing something. i love guest characters personally but i do see how and why it could break the game cause of said special guest character, it's about balancing/tuning the character at that point. Reason why I brought up "console war" cause last i checked companies like capcom would have focus on making games for nintendo then sega later, then SNK was originally arcade focus but was bringing their games to console but sega was better in that regard vs nintendo during those days. now it's main focus is really is the fans vs the company interest.

[@nohometv5730]

Bison looks like War in Darksiders....horse and all 😒🐎

[@Hemestal]

Im ok with one guest per batch but not half of the dlc. Then, why Terry and Mai?. SNK has so many cooler characters, like, even just Fatal Fury has cooler characters.

[@erno6155]

Sf6 Year 3 Wishlist. 1. Vega 2. Makoto 3. Dudley 4. Sagat Lowkey could swap Sagat for any popular pick like Rose,C.Viper,Menat,Q. But we need dudley in this game

[@scynapz]

I dont get this mentality about for characters that were part of the main game. Of you're gonna give me dlc make it something cool. Like Mai and Terry. A lot of you guys have been conditioned to pay for anything the company throws out there.

[@elmatasesues3630]

WHERE IS ALEX

[@DoomyRei]

Bison is king

[@maforo85]

Damn you have no clue about the history of SNK and Capcom and now tied hey are together.

[@nugieboy]

Don’t care when’s Menat 🤓

[@Pichoniix]

What is exactly Sol Badguy? A Cowboy with an Alien Sword wearing a dinosaur 🦕 sized Gucci belt? with tight pants 👖and long hair. I preffer Terry anyday lol I don't know how can that guy be based on Terry... LOL

[@nugieboy]

I think they have similar moves?

[@Pichoniix]

@@nugieboy -_-"

[@batman1736]

It's clear that you are ignorant to the history of street fighter and kof/fatal fury because if you had any understanding and or grew up with both games you wouldn't be saying what you are saying. Sol bad guy wishes he was terry first of all and Mai and Terry are perfect for sf6 There could literally be no one better then two top kof characters in sf6. Your understanding of these characters and the history is seriously low. Because anyone who has played and followed both games and companies would never say what your saying and like I said Mai and terry belong in sf6 more then any other character!!

[@tadriguezbenton8260]

The Terry and Mai hate is hilarious. Yall want new sf games with the same dlc characters every game. I'm super hyped Terry and Mai made it in. Two of my mains from FF and KOF. Those two fit SF PERFECTLY. This opens up so many doors for Sf and FF characters. Now if they can just add Allen Snider and Doctrine Dark from SF EX.

[@scynapz]

Nah, give me skull-o-mania 😂

[@Pichoniix]

Let them cry xD

[@beanman9936]

@@scynapz TRUEEEEEEEEEE

[@metalrex2480]

@@scynapzhe needs to return so bad!

[@marzblaq7267]

I’m still holding out hope for C.Viper, Makoto, Ibuki, Sakura and Menat

[@nugieboy]

Cultured I see

[@pyxelpub8251]

Replace viper with Akira and we’re basically the same person at this point. Not against viper joining though, just want all the others so much more

[@lukejones7164]

Based

[@JalauroUrsa]

Sakura and Viper, for sure.

[@leandrocerencio]

Good advice for you: boot Fightcade and play Fatal Fury Real Bout Special. You are going to see the peak of Terry and Mai. And Mai is popular because she is the 1st waifu. Not Chun. When she released, it was huge for the time. Check old magazines, all over the world there were articles about Mai and her design. Be careful with Mai, she is the queen of the waifus. After playing her, you maybe ask: who is Sakura?

[@DB64AKAMRBOB]

We really got Mai in sf6 before Sakura it's sakuover

[@pyxelpub8251]

In Tekken, I dressed both Asuka and Reina as Sakura, and I’ve changed my username to Sakura on a budget to help me cope. Also tried to write Makoto at home, but sadly there aren’t enough customizable outfits to make it work.

[@JuanGomez-ke5py]

We got Mai sf6 before Grand theft Auto 6

[@Lupo32]

In street fighter 5 in her story she Did say she's ready to move on and settle down.... possibly mother hood ... and women age differently from men

[@tadriguezbenton8260]

Wts wrong with that?

[@JuanGomez-ke5py]

@@tadriguezbenton8260 taking a break up and down once in awhile with a good thing

[@NickysYT]

Mai and Terry are Fatal Fury characters more than they are KOF characters. And Fatal Fury was a spiritual successor to SF and had ex Capcom devs working on it and one of them was the director, so in a sense they belong.

[@CrystalMang0]

They are still KOF characters bro. Just like Cody and poison are street fighter and final fight characters.

[@palemink]

​@@CrystalMang0 Mayhaps but it's moreso the question of lore and how much we learn about a character personality wise. Those two are more of a Fatal Fury characters because of how important they are in the Fatal Fury universe. There's literally an anime lol. Since kof is like a separate universe and is the og crossover fighting game they don't nearly get the same treatment there compared to FF.

[@jonnybravo595]

@@CrystalMang0 bro go back and reread what he said and then rethink what you said.

[@prophecyxqc7941]

It’s going to happen you can’t run from it, Q will be a sneak in character between Terry and Mai

[@Violent_Wolfen]

They better have a few sneak in characters because that gap between Elena and Mai is LONG! Also Power Rangers Battle for the Grid did that with three characters so Capcom doesn't have an excuse here.

[@Tjxal]

What Capcom meant by Winter 2025 is December 2024-February 2025 as a release window, Elena will be the last character for the pass.

[@Hunter-zb5wl]

Y2 pass being 10 dollars more = hidden character?!??! I believe!

[@futorenkin6838]

Rose was Bison's original body, she was his good half. Thats why clones like Cammy,Decapre and Falke are women

[@TdclatinsportsBlogspot]

Lol that Bison looks like Napoleon now, are u sure is Bison? Please Capcom looks more like Rugal without mustaches 😅 and yeah was a super good idea bring Mai Shiranui the sexiest girl ever and the wolf lone Terry Bogard

[@akbarmuhsin5257]

Mai versus Kimberly? Come on, really? No one wants to see it. If two Fatal Fury characters appear in SF6, imagine which two Street Fighter characters will appear in the new Fatal Fury game.😮😮

[@nugieboy]

Luke from Streets💀

[@CrystalMang0]

That's between Ryu, Chun li, Luke, Kimberly

[@beanman9936]

Dudley vs Heavy D (free the American sports team)

[@ToshisGarden]

"Terry Bogard makes sense from KoF" RIP City of the Wolves, as "Fatal Fury" is not an existing game franchise XD

[@Redwill85]

Bro so many people keep saying KOF characters lmao. No one knows history I guess 😂

[@vontecontroll1556]

Im the 3 people happy elena is coming and shes going into my top 3 of juri, aki, and soon to be elena, and a maybe mai or terry if theyre fun.

[@josephlizandro1884]

Fuck Sakura she’s in street fighter 4&5 I’m hype for the two fatal fury characters and Elena even tho she’s in 4 . I always liked Elena because I love third strike and I feel bison could’ve been someone else spot but he seems kooler now

[@nugieboy]

yeah i dont really care about sakura either lmao just needed to address my mad sakura hating in the last vid loool

[@TLtheArtist]

So I see a lot of resistance with the guest characters but a lot of people forget or unaware of these characters history and why they are special. Everyone says "King of Fighters" which yes came after and they are in but the game they originated was Fatal Fury. Fatal Fury's concept was created from a group of former capcom developers with the desire to make a successor game of the original Street Fighter, which played very differently from where the series continued from II. With this in mind as well as the previous crossover with SNK, these characters aren't out of place but more of brought back to a place of their spiritual roots. Another thing I'd like to point out on the Capcom side, is the inclusion of Mike Haggar, Guy, Cody, Hugo and Poison. All these characters are from Final Fight, which is a beat up title, not a street fighter title, yet they are included in the same universe. In this case of guest characters, it is NOT the same as say, 2B, Witcher, etc, because their content isnt outlandish compared to the game they are participating in (Ie Joker from Persona 5 in Dragalia Lost, Aloy from Horizon in Genshin.)

[@JalauroUrsa]

We got Bison, from Wreck It Ralph!

[@megamc3803]

I'm not going to pretend by having fake hype like most of these delusional fanboys have. To keep it real it's very disappointing that guest characters are taking up 50% of the lineup which is just completely nonsensical and a complete waste. The lineup just mostly feels very stale, unimaginative, nonsensical, uninteresting, repetitive, and corporately forced. It's completely tone deaf from what many SF fans wanted. You would think Capcom would have the common sense to know SF fans want to play SF characters in a SF game. Not some lame generic one off guest characters who aren't coming back in the future and steal spots from actual SF characters. There's still a bunch of way more interesting, popular, and heavily requested SF characters that deserve to be in the game more than most of these lame picks. Also, Nash has died completely for nothing now and SFV is pointless which is just a pathetic joke. I just feel like Capcom made mostly all of these character picks only because of sex appeal, cheap broad popularity, and money alone. It just feels like a very scummy inauthentic desperate move and doesn't really make sense to have most of these characters this early over clearly more deserving SF characters that fans have wanted back for years. Mostly all of these picks don't bring anything new or interesting to the game except maybe Elena. Terry is just another mostly lame generic shoto in a game where there is already too many. Basically, Ken with a trucker hat and jeans. Mai is one of the least interesting and most unimaginative female characters ever in an SNK game and was only picked because of sex appeal towards braindead horny gamers. She's just another less interesting Chun-Li. Bison looks like the same old boring shit we've already seen too many times before only now he's got the most unimaginative nonsensical shit like having a horse and looking like a hobo. His design looks awful too like they just threw random ideas together because they thought it would look cool. He still looks like a complete cartoonish joke of a villain and in almost every aspect looks very out of place in SF6. He's pointless in a game where there is already a much better and more interesting villain who uses psycho power in JP. Also only having 4 characters for over a year is terrible for how much Capcom is overpricing all this shit. There needs to be more than 4 because that is a dam ripoff especially for $70. I wouldn't have nearly as many problems with this season if it was 5-6 characters and only one guest character because then the price would feel somewhat justified. All this just tells me that the games director has completely lost touch because now it looks like a complete scummy lame waste of a season. Just more of the same old shit from last season only somehow worse. Capcom just going keep nickel and diming their delusional fanboys so they can exploit them as much as possible. Once again glad I didn't waste my money on this game because Crapcom is clearly still alive and well. People still wonder why games popularity has fell off a cliff since launch and why it will only continue to do that this season. It's because people realized just how scummy and hollow the game truly is. Capcom is now truly creatively bankrupt. I guess i'll check back in next year to see if they’re going to do anything interesting with this game but i'm not getting my hopes up.

[@nugieboy]

You should try making KZbin videos

[@megamc3803]

​@@nugieboy I've considered it but at the end of the day one persons take is not going to change the mindsets of all the delusional fanboys and fake content creator company shills who do nothing but suck these companies off while being exploited by them. They don't live in or see reality and will continue to be nickel and dimed while mindlessly hating on anyone who brings up a valid point against their precious game companies which can never do anything wrong. For these games and companies to truly change for the better there would need to be a massive number of players and influential figures in the community actually calling them out for this BS and telling them to their face that they won't stand for this shit anymore. The problem there most of the popular figures and content creators in the community are company shills who do nothing but praise everything no matter how scummy it is just so they can get all the perks, invites, and early access to things they want. Also many of the delusional fanboys just don't want to accept the possible harsh reality that they wasted their money on something and that their being exploited. Instead they will defend something solely based on not accepting or admitting to that reality even if they know deep down there is some major BS going on. Thanks for the respect and civility though. I just like to keep things real unlike many other people on here.

[@nugieboy]

I just think people are entitled to their opinions, and I’ve been in your shoes, can’t say I really care about Terry, Mai, or even Elena and bison since I did have a wishlist, but ultimately I have a character I like to play and am attached to in the game already so it’s easy to be neutral for me I guess. I have characters I want but I’m satisfied atm and at the end of the day each DLC character has been unique and their personalities/inclusion have been great and id argue a net positive so I honestly trust them to make Terry and Mai great in the game too, even if it was at the expense of a SF fans inclusion of their character! But yeah like I said I used to go around texting this kinda stuff and I feel at ease making vids like this so I can “say it once” and be done with the convo, but to each their own

[@mikecox]

Capcom fanboy: "If I wanted to play Kof characters I would play Kof"... So, Why you want CVS 3?

[@YeldellGW]

LOL!

[@Arkastopheles]

This is such a dumb statement, seeing snk characters in capcom games is hype as hell.

[@deelite19]

The real tragedy is ed and Aki. Nobody, NOBODY asked for these characters. They could have been sakura and Dudley, or Makoto and Q. Ibuki and sagat, or menat and Urien. But no, they can’t give what the fans want - that’ll be crazy! we get the return of a much-hated boxer boy and a fem version of much-hated poison man. Smh capcom’s roster selection seriously needs restructuring. Somebody please get fired and get someone with sense in place. Ed and Aki… yea ok capcom, keep shitting on your 100+ lot of attractive IPs you have at your disposal. So genius.

[@nugieboy]

Hey I’m an Aki main 💀but I get it, in the end not every character is for you, but I think we can agree that street fighter fans would’ve liked more SF6 chars before 2 kof lol

[@qmachado6555]

Bri4nF? How would he know? He's washed up, and didn't even play the old 2D SF games...dude was trash in 4, then became good when easy SFV came out using top tier boxer. Guess he's looking to coattail M.Bison now? I was using Bipson since 1992

[@nugieboy]

??????

[@vandagylon2885]

Stay salty.

[@MapleStoryRocks009]

I do think Rock Howard or Kyo would’ve been considerably more hype for me as guest characters

[@cloopis_the_floopis]

Sakura nation weeps

[@KiTTtheKiDD]

Love the vid, you're pretty funny Random question: what site is this listmaker from? 08:49

[@nugieboy]

Hey appreciate it, it’s from here topsters, I would send a link but I think you can’t link stuff

[@shelbytucker6325]

I want Bandai Namco to make a 3v3 team fighter like mvc with the tails of series. So many chapters with totally unique weapons and fighting style. Such a waste

[@nugieboy]

that would be really cool, not very familiar with tails of... but obviously if we're talking jrpgs i gotta go final fantasy

[@KenMasters.]

People are asking for a *Capcom vs. SNK 3* comeback game; but the devs just shoehorned Terry & Mai into *Street Fighter 6* instead. *Mortal Kombat 1* has the same problem; Homelander, Omni-Man, Peacemaker & Spawn all belong in a potential *Injustice 3* (with an M-rating) basically because they're superheroes and supervillains, beyond Kombatants!

[@versatilelord8893]

I don’t think bison counts too much. He’s super popular and a lot of fans love him which made him a given for this season. But Elena is like literally the only good news out this whack season lol Only thing I can hope for is that the guests added maybe get some of sf fanbase interested in kof. Since kof is underrated and more ppl should check it out but I kinda doubt that’ll happen. Ppl are just gonna stick to what they want. Guests don’t really much of anything in that regard. It’s supposed to but in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t Vf heads back then didn’t even want to try out doa 5 even when it featured 4 vf characters lol

[@Eliburgo]

He has both his evil psycho power (purple energy) and Roses soul power ( blue energy) unfortunately this means most likely Rose is dead😢

[@nugieboy]

Menat must avenge her!!!! Copium 😔

[@CrystalMang0]

That's not what happened bro

[@CrystalMang0]

Not true. You forgot Ed's is blue as well?

[@Eliburgo]

@CrystalMang0 is Eds power soul power or psycho power hmmmmm ? yet to be determined story wise he's a good guy technically but it's like Ryu and his dark hado Ed needs to master self unlike Menat his teacher/master(boxer) isn't exactly soulful.

[@Lupo32]

It was explained that in street fighter alpha 3 you can destroy M.Bison body but his soul / spirit will find a new host . At this point he is a Saturday morning cartoon villain. Now if i were in charge 1.m.biosn 2. Terry bogard 3.elena 4.Laura 5.sakura 6.hugo Or alternatively 1.m.bison 2.Terry board 3.elena 4.1 tekken character 5. 1 fighting ex layer character And this one is just to get under your skin 1. M.bison 2.terry bogard 3.elena 4.mai shirainui 5.joe higashi 6. Andy bogard

[@P_OmSa]

I think the screens M. Bison is looking at in his story scenes don't represent alternate timelines, but are just a record of what happened in the past that he's looking at. And he gets pissed, maybe because he lost, lol. But while I love Mai, I don't really like guest characters. It's a lot of things, but mostly it's that they *1)* take up a slot that could have gone to a fan favorite, *2)* don't always fit in the game's universe, and *3)* are not guaranteed to come back again. And yeah, if you're only doing 4 chars a year, and you give two slots to guest characters... it stings, a lot. I mean, looking at the roster for SF6, it's like why even keep doing those popularity polls if you're just gonna ignore them? I understand them keeping Sakura for a mid-life-cycle refresh, but Dudley and Makoto are always on top and neither of them is anywhere to be seen.

[@manemane1ful]

If I wanted to play Kof characters I would play Kof.... Rip Viper

[@moyza_]

Again: Terry Bogard and Mai Shiranui are. Fatal Fury. Characters.

[@capstalker5539]

Ironnically, in one final of Tekken 7 was Akuma vs Geese, I forgot which match it was. I don't like guest characters unless this is meant to be a crossover game.

[@silvermonad1]

i was really hoping to get ibuki or cody, also if they got KoF guests they could've at least gotten something less mainstream and 2 of them is too much on a 4 character season pass.

[@vividleo]

I am excited I want to go back and learn m. Bison moves Terry moves Mai moves and go back to SF 3 third strike and learn Elena

[@erno6155]

the devious laugh after saying "it's kinda like a guile fireball but not charge" 😭😭. Mai might go crazy in sf6

[@YeldellGW]

The only perk about guest characters is that they take away slots that would have gone to series characters I could care less about seeing again.

[@megashadow99999]

Should’ve just been Mai. Terry could’ve been left off Bad & Boujee.

[@suhtangwong]

They got 2 of the most iconic fighters from snk/ff! Thank goodness!

[@Wiziliz]

"I basically only know that she's popular because of Sakurai saying that thing he said." The fuck is bro on about?

[@nugieboy]

See pinned

[@chillshadow29]

I think dante is a better fit for mortal kombat than street fighter

[@rawrdino7046]

Terry and mai were a long time coming, glad we got it later than sooner

[@Moony_7860]

3:04 he has both ultra instinct and ultra ego

[@DoomyRei]

Season3 we need sagat

[@Enryuujin]

I beg to disagree. Mai here is perfect!

[@suhtangwong]

Cvs3 please! I will play sf again!

[@unrulydgj9589]

Mai being popular has nothing to do with sakurai, brain dead statement.

[@nugieboy]

I said /I/ only knew Mai was popular due to sakurai not including her and the backlash. Think you misunderstood, I never said Sakurai made her popular lol but go off king

[@jadthecat387]

#さくら不足

[@suhtangwong]

I don't understand the complaints on snk characters, it gets us closer to cvs3!

[@nugieboy]

If you’re right I will apologize 🙏

[@chillmydudes]

having half of the pass be guest characters would be cool if it wasnt the second one. im also not a fan of bison coming back so early it just feels boring to me. would be so much better with terry, elena and 2 other sf characters

[@nugieboy]

yeah I agree, I think if this was like the 4th or 5th battlepass... and we got like a good amount of other returning characters, i think "TWO GUEST CHARACTERS!?" would be my reaction instead of "oh... two of them...?"

[@chillmydudes]

@@nugieboy yeah like im not mad we are getting both mai and terry because its pretty cool. i just feel like for the second pass we atleast need more sf6 versions of street fighter characters before i can be hyped about getting some guest characters

[@Violent_Wolfen]

​@nugieboy My reaction was that it was bittersweet because half the pass was guest characters ( and I like guest characters) but one of them just had to be fuckin' Mai. The chick they just have to drag along otherwise SNK's perverted fans will try to burn down a building if they don't.

[@nugieboy]

@@Violent_Wolfen if I learned one thing about FGC, there’s perverted fans in every game and the games will pander exhibit 1) Juri 💀 so yeah same team LOL

[@Violent_Wolfen]

@@nugieboy Juri has been popular since 4 and that whole foot fetish part didn't happen until 5, she's not Makoto whose main popularity was that from day 1. XD

[@cyric2010]

I stopped playing SF6 after I got bored of (leotard) Cammy. I might start playing again for Mai - if she looks hot. I love waifu types and SF6 doesnt have many of them.

[@Spongemonkey26]

I thought mai was the season closer.

[@nugieboy]

Bison > Terry > Mai > Elena

[@crislunaverellen6563]

I honestly don't mind guest characters in games, but it most likely *depends* on if they fit the theme! For example, in 2011's MK9, we got Kratos and Freddy Kruger, and they actually fit well in the game, since Mortal Kombat is all about blood, gore, intense violence, and supernatural theming. The God of War series has all the similarities to MK, so Kratos was a good fit. Freddy Kruger is a horror icon and Mortal Kombat had a bit of horror within it, so he too 100% fitted in. Then, with MKX, we got Jason Voorhees, Leatherface, Predator and Xenomorph, and just like MK9, they also fit well in the game, since they are known for horror, blood, and death themes. However, with MK11, imo was controversial. For my take, Spawn and The Terminator worked well, since one had horror and supernatural elements, while T-800 was only because of having cyborgs in, since MK has Cyrax, Sektor, Cyber Smoke, Cyber Sub-Zero, and Frost. But, with Robocop, Joker, and Rambo, don't get me wrong they're cool, but not many of them fitted the theme of Mortal Kombat. Now, with MK1, we so far have Omni-Man, Peacemaker and Homelander and well, their respective parties (Invincible, Peacemaker, and The Boys) all have blood and gore, but almost none of them have the supernatural elements in their shows and I feel like NRS just added them in because they are let's say they're fanboys/fangirls of those shows (I'm not saying it because I'm saying that there bad, I'm saying it in a general standpoint). With Tekken 7, we got Akuma (Street Fighter), Geese Howard (Fatal Fury), and Noctis (Final Fantasy). Akuma kinda fits (mostly because Capcom and Bandai Namco once made their 2012 crossover "Street Fighter x Tekken", and it was cool, but the gems and pandora systems really ruined it), then Geese Howard, since Fatal Fury and Tekken have a tournament within their gameing lore (especially since Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting are connected to the "King of Fighters"). However, with Noctis, it just was for fan favorite purposes (in my opinion)! Now with Street Fighter 6 (imo), Terry Bogard fits perfectly, since back in 90s we got SNK vs Capcom (and that chemistry dialogue between Ken Masters and Terry), but with Mai Shiranui, I feel like they've added her for *fan service purposes* Overall though, I do like guest characters, but they only work if they *fit* the theme of the game there in.

[@Katsudon305]

Street Fighter Alpha established lore that Bison's body would die out, and he would transfer his mind and powers to a new body so he would live on. Cammy is a clone of Bison and may have been intended to be a fem Bison. This Bison appears to be a clone but the mind transfer wasn't completed. Your concern on the KOF guests is valid. Mai and Terry will work fine because of Capcom vs SNK, as the 6 grooves give each character different play styles from various fighting games. Me personally, Terry and Mai plays great, if you're not familiar with their style. In regards to Mai Shiranui, she is a female legacy character in fighting games, up there in popularity with Chun-Li. Keep in mind that the co-creator of Street Fighter 1 left Capcom and created Fatal Fury.

[@ahriss8965]

Generally speaking, Mai's gameplay is based around air mobility and good pokes. IIRC her damage tends to be on the low side, but she has a wall jump, a dive, and air grab and a command normal that changes her momentum in the air and causes a hard knockdown...kinda depends on game. She tends to fluctuate on how good she is from game to game. Mind you, I'm not an expert and don't play competitively, I'm just a fan of the franchise. And honestly, I think they needed the 2 characters because capcom fighting games seem to have a tendency to not look at other franchises (hell, Maximillian Dood said multiple times in the past he had no interest in non capcom stuff before cvs2), so they might think a stronger push for interest is warranted. Especially if they're gauging interest for a possible cvs3.

[@lamMeTV]

If its only healing drive gauge I wouldnt make it cost a super. Just have her have like a quarter circle forward for rhino horn and a quarter circle back for healing so you can just go ham all day burning meter (like 3s Elena) and get it back on every knock down kinda like Jamie drinks, give up oki gain advantage. If we get health healing it will be insanely fun.

[@nugieboy]

That’s a good idea too, but I hope it has enough advantage where she doesn’t have to give up oki, my idea in theory if it was like an invul level 1 or maybe a level 2 that like full heals it means it could have a lot of utility, making it like blanka or rashid where you never see her level 3 lol unless to kill the other persons drive. I could see either being cool though

[@JalauroUrsa]

People don't realize how big this is. We may never get Tekken vs. Street Fighter, but we'll be getting Capcom vs. SNK 3, in a few short moments.

[@humaneshadow300]

People hated on Elena but don't had same energy how mess up super turbo cvs2 mvc2 alpha games was. 😑 Even third strike

[@kenshin391]

So glad we got Bison back, but Capcom needs to put another boxer in this damn game.

[@cheekitb]

im glad elena is in but sad bison isnt a woman also

[@pkphantom]

Now I WANT to say stop being weird, but seeing how he's at LEAST had 4 female bodies prepared for him at some point (Cammy, Decapre, Juri, Falke), I can't completely dismiss the comment

[@nugieboy]

Lol I love the concession, I actually didn’t know those 4 were supposed to be bodies for Bison. I wonder why they never go through with it. Maybe just too iconic @pkphantom

[@kitestar]

I’m sure Sakura will get in about year 3-ish? She’s too popular to not get in

[@bZgtHeSTD]

The mistake was picking mai instead of iori

[@greek1237]

I am sure on that, Mai is pretty popular.

[@KiTTtheKiDD]

​@@greek1237 Chun li is more popular than Akuma, but that didn't stop the T7 devs from picking the cooler character tho

[@nugieboy]

I would’ve liked Geese ngl

[@ElFenrir13]

I'm a boomer FG person, and guests in fighting games have gone through ups and downs. Back in the day, the rare guest was seen as like, pretty cool? I'd say it's the last generation that they've started to get controversial. I dunno if it's a shift in demographic, or something like the longer games have been around, the more characters there are to 'get in', so guests start 'taking up room.' I can't quite say what it is. (that said I believe that a lot of the 'silent majority' who buy games don't really mind them, but the online vocal folks are much louder.) Personally, I don't mind them, and in fact I think they can be really cool if they fit. I liked seeing Haoh in SC, for example, and love the horror icons in MK, etc. Like I think GBVS would be awesome to see Zenos from FFXIV in(OG Stormblood, 3 Katanas Zenos.) But I can also at least somewhat understand the PoV in this case. it's only Season 2, the roster is relatively small, and we're *already* getting two guests(Tekken 7 was pretty big already before Akuma was put in, same with Geese.) i again don't mind, since I'll totally play Terry(I'm a KOF/FF fan), but I also miss Claw and would love him back one season.

[@nugieboy]

Zenos in granblue would be insane looool. I like this take. As the franchise grows it’s harder to balance the want for guests I agree.

[@benevolentduck9598]

As I understand it Elena was broken and disliked because her hurtbox made some combos performed on her just drop and not work which is stupid because she wasn't just strong, she nerfed the character you played simply by existing. I highly doubt Capcom is bringing back the broken hurtbox and I don't think healing with a level 3 super would be as broken in this game because of how important invincible level 1s are (if they bring it back at all) so I'm fairly optimistic regarding her release next year seeing how well they did with Ed

[@_ADiSSY]

It is kind of disappointing in some aspects but I still love this pass Inhaling my copium lol: They might write bison to trying to become someone else The steam page said "additional content may be added" if I'm not mistaken, so maybe, just maybe we'll see another character

[@nugieboy]

really hope you're right, can you pass some copium?

[@fordy5788]

The problem is 4 slots not the guest characters. If it had 6 slots i say no one will have problem with guest characters

[@josevitorcalfa2]

KOF characters? Why everyone think Terry and Mai are KOF characters? Man, nobody in the FGC remember Fatal Fury anymore? Young man, do yourself a favor and play Real Bout Fatal Fury Special and Real Bout Fatal Fury 2. SF6 versions of Terry and Mai come directly from these two games. Mai even has her design fro these two games in SF6 (barefooted and with a more discreet kimono in the chest area).

[@nugieboy]

kof just easier to say lol

[@Violent_Wolfen]

Also when's the last time there was a Fatal Fury game. Hell, in order to get one of the main guys to work on KOFXV ( whose season 2 also sucked) SNK had to agree yo make another Garou game. It's why we're getting that abd a new Art of Fighting.

[@gunman48100]

You said Rose.😇

[@humaneshadow300]

Terry bogard is not clone of sol bad guy. Terry debut art of fighting 92 guilty gear debut 1998

[@nugieboy]

Lol I know it’s a joke I even said sol was inspired by him im pretty sure!