Maia has made Dibble, Teno, and Pachy obsolete

[@kav2538]

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[@DarkRag0n]

The fact Maia can also casually make groups of 10 is funny to say the least

[@DodoTacticsGaming]

Is that with our without social mutation?

[@MALEVELON_CREEK]

maia is 100% right the way it is now.. the cera should only be able to kill small creatures efficiently and not the big ones. the weakness of the maia is the omni.. easyyy play

[@daverealm6362]

@@MALEVELON_CREEK do you really think being able to outrun and kill practically everything without much effort is fair? lol

[@vRelm-h20]

​@@MALEVELON_CREEK then maia should be way slower than cera. The creature is totally unbalanced. A large social group also makes killing maias impossible for omnis

[@tunaozturk2639]

​@@daverealm6362 wrong dino choices of the isle isle decided to add only useless and tiny dinos and suddenly they are adding ur avrg dinos and obviously they are gonna be like gods compared to what we have rn when game has half of its roster NOONE gonna play pachy cera carno teno or dibble these are farbsge creatures

[@jfht318]

Nothing could make pachy more obsolete than dondi.

[@dryhard4192]

peak comment

[@mr.fruitcup4495]

Lore accurate comment

[@UtauTori_]

You can play as pachy but it's just so pointless since it dies to EVERYTHING now, if they removed pachy from playables nobody would really care.

[@clarx1626]

@@UtauTori_Yeah pachy needs back it’s stun, i mean it’s fair now to stun carno since it’s SMALLER. But pachy should not be able to stun dinosaurs big as maia or dibble imo

[@UtauTori_]

@@clarx1626 Pachy stops after every headbutt and has little to no chance to break legs now. The only dino average pachy player can win against is probably troodon. VS cera - gets folded, Carno - gets folded - dilo/raptor/teno/diablo - folded

[@discoshrew7403]

It’s hilarious to me that the discord is up in arms about how weak Maia is and videos like this exist 😂

[@ducestat06savage99]

Because it's forced to use 2 moves and only that everything else is complete doo doo stomp and shove is the only thing saving it cause nothing yous you can do

[@ducestat06savage99]

Especially quadrapeadal and back kick

[@1995Pie]

people just cant play things xD they are dying and thinking "man, maia is baaad" instead they should think "man, i played this wrong"

[@carmandirda]

They do the same thing for everything. It's either "unkillable" or "unplayable" if you ask Islecord. When Carno was the top playable able to roll the entire server (including stegos), people still called it weak. That's partially why the devs ignore us 🫠

[@kitkat5596]

I literally told everyone that Maia can bully diablo and no one gave a shit lmao, no one in The isle discord knows the first thing about balancing and just lick the boots of the Devs no matter what they do.

[@LaCreatura23]

1. One idea I saw was to make maia much more susceptible to being knocked over while bipedally, especially running. This would make quadrupedal stance necessary for fighting anything with a good capability of knocking attackers over (Diablo and tenonto to a sense) since if you chase them they can kick you in the face or topple you over to buy them some time, you will need to selectively plant your feet when you feel like an oncoming attack is about to happen. This also ties in to how maia would get hunted, things like allo and rex can grapple/toss maia, so while in a bipedal stance a singular allo might be able to weigh down one of maia's sides more than if it had a more stable base. In the case of rex, a maia with all 4 feet planted takes a little bit longer to snap its spine in half I suppose 2. Another would be, since maia turns like an alcoholic bus, while bipedal if maia makes a too sharp turn it could slip/stumble which allows smaller more agile creatures to zig zag away from a charging maia, and would also give quad stance a use as a more stable base while running and making turns This would also add more depth to maia's ability to escape predators, being very fast on its feet while in a bipedal stance but not good at turning, maia players would have to strategically switch between the two depending on the type of predator they are facing, the terrain they are in (a thick forest vs an open field) and if they are choosing to fight or not. Like how I mentioned before, grappling predators like rex and allo could be able to throw down with maia if they force it to mess up, specifically with ambushes that allow them to surprise maia and cause it to slip while turning away. I can see rex headbutting maia to the ground and just mauling it, while allo can take advantage of a stumbling maia by all grabbing on or pushing their extra weight against it, keeping it on the ground TL DR: for the first one maia gets knocked over easier while bipedal, #2, maia can slip and fall while trying to evade/chase more agile targets/enemies in a bipedal stance

[@LiterallyGoku.]

I personally don’t think it should slip if it turns to sharp it’s already difficult to fight omni due to bipedal turn radius, making you slip would just mean you die.

[@LaCreatura23]

@ to clarify, it’s more like a sharp sudden camera turn while at full sprint, if you are just moving your camera quickly to track an attacker it would be fine, but where most creatures would slide, maia can stumble if already moving at top speed

[@LiterallyGoku.]

@@LaCreatura23 even with a sharp camera turn I feel like that has a ton of room to be very annoying and in general just not doable. The game already doesn’t allow you to move sharp enough on two legs to stumble, so I feel like a change like that wouldn’t make since unless they changed it’s turn speed and radius.

[@garry1553]

This is genius, great idea lad

[@loserorangeorvoremonster8047]

@LiterallyGoku. mia should live in larger herds, and even if solo, stand your ground and dont run if they are fast and small, otherwise run straight.

[@Sandwch146]

maia is the heavyweight carnotaurus. The equivelent to mike tyson

[@pineapplepizzasandwich1974]

Whoever says herbivores never fight each other is delusional and has never been outdoors in their life.

[@unapeppina4824]

They really should've tried to package maia with allo instead of releasing it on it's own. I know they adopted the development process of "we release it when it's done" but, maia is prime example as to of why they need to package the playables together.

[@lanedamron5833]

Just adapt and learn

[@UtauTori_]

impossible man since they only care about money they're gonna milk the game for as long as possible. Releasing 2 dinos in the same update wont ever happen.

[@lanedamron5833]

@@UtauTori_ you don’t need Dino’s being released together. As a solo player I can’t fight against a lot, so I adapt and pick my battles. You think the isle is a pvp game it’s not…

[@sirartorix389]

@@lanedamron5833 literally gaslighting yourself into having fun

[@UtauTori_]

@@lanedamron5833 if youre bad at pvp there are dedicated unofficial servers to train on. Have fun killing AI to survive :D

[@savooge6177]

crazy how in the update right after they nerf carno and shrink it because they couldn't make it work , they litterally add the old carno back but even stronger with maia xD what even are the devs thinking

[@h.a8681]

Personally I think Maia should have much less combat capacity while in bipedal model. Bipedal mode should be for running away or getting around the map. Quad should be for combat, which is of course slower. You should have to chose between combat capacity or speed, not both

[@carmandirda]

I thought that was the point, but here we are

[@EmeraldDreams7]

I agree. Shove should be reserved for quad mode and I think that would majorly help it's balance. Nerf the bipedal front stomp and buff quadrapedal kick.

[@Triyanto-kz8ep]

Nah ,😂 I like the way it is

[@VV-db8vh]

I thought of that too, but the other way around, quad is weak as hell but fast whereas bipedal is strong as hell but slow.

[@dinohvp9488]

I honestly thing maia's biggest problem is it's weight honestly since a 2.5 ton maia would still be able to pack a punch but not as OP as before imo (and it's somewhat more realistic, sure it could get up to 4 ish tons or smt but the avarage for an adult animal would be 2.5-2.8 tons)

[@G-zt4mt]

theres a game in roblox called Mesozoica , maias and ceras exist in there. Maia is a lot stronger than cera . But cera has abillities to fight the maia . It can grapple on to its leg and break it , it can yank it down and make it sit so it can bite its head and kill it. I think the isle could take some inspiration so that if maia is so strong atleast the carnivore can break its leg to run away or hunt it . To add some risk so it isnt the first thought in the maia players head from "Oh cera , easy kill" to "better play defensive if he attacks"

[@planetaryassaultsystems5119]

No, no, none of that. Lol Cera players in panicmode.

[@G-zt4mt]

@planetaryassaultsystems5119 i mean yeah ur probably right because they will try to run and justt get trampled

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

a 3.8 ton thing just shouldnt be al almost as fast as omni

[@planetaryassaultsystems5119]

@@G-zt4mt Yes it's beautiful.

[@roge5901]

Lol i discovered that game like 2 days ago how th do u grapple there tho

[@DinoDude8269]

I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again: the stamina drain is one of the main issues. Maia shouldn’t be as fast as it is with better stam than Carno. I honestly think the first thing that needs to be nerfed is stamina drain and at this point the speed of bipedal stance as well. Speed Maia is 49kmh, which practically requires dilo and Carno to go for a speed build if they want to out speed it. Even then it’s not enough because Maia can out endure at least Carno. The fact it can also knock down dibble is just insane; the good thing is that it’s a hordetest so things are subject to change. I’m just hoping the devs nerf the correct issues.

[@dinohvp9488]

tbf the stamina is good since hadrosaurs are proposed to have been good endurance runners, keeping a high speed for a long time. A carno can make a break to the woods and the dillo can zig zag around since maia's turning is crap (not counting the drift tho). But yeah being able to knock down every adult thing that's not stego or deino is craaaazy

[@DinoDude8269]

@ Carno running into the woods does nothing when Maia literally has better turning than it. Dilo is the only thing that can realistically hunt Maia. I think you make a fair point to the stamina consumption; I guess my main issue is the speed and damage it gets alongside it. If you’re going to have all three of these apart of Maia’s design then you must make one of them a weakness. Maia already has a low blood pool but in combination with being able to knock down almost anything, more damage than dibble, almost out speeds Carno and dilo, has better stam than both of those, and is the 2nd tankiest herbivore. It’s literally dibble on steroids, it desperately needs a huge drawback or it will ruin the balance. Either slow it down or gut its stam drain or nerf it damage. I don’t have a problem with the weight since it’s actually lighter than it is irl.

[@dinohvp9488]

@@DinoDude8269 maybe cut it's weight to about 2.5 tons, keep it's speed and stamina but make stomp (the main damage dealer of maia rn) do like 300+ dmg BUT costs a shit ton of stamina (smt like stego's running power swing, one shots almost everything but your stamina goes to hell) like 1/5 of it and make so that the other attacks to more stuff than just tickle the oponnent like the back kicks doing about 200 dmg and that side kick some 150 or so. It would make it much harder to chase stuff down and basically force the maia into a more defensive instance where it can make quick work of things that go head on with it while still being vulnerable since aiming your back at enemies as a maia is pure pain rn.

[@DinoDude8269]

@ the high damage moves should take a a lot of stamina. Ornithopods in this game should definitely play with the mindset of using its combat abilities more defensively than offensively. I still think the speed should be nerfed or at least remove the speed mutations all together. Cera struggles severely against Maia atm and although it is satisfying to see them get stomped; it is also horribly balanced at cera’s detriment. Maia should definitely be fast with good stamina but I think you make a good point that the higher dealing dmg attacks should require a ton of stamina while then buffing the weaker attacks. However if you buff Maia’s other attacks then I think they need to rebuff teno’s attacks after secretly nerfing their tail slam and kick. Otherwise teno will become obsolete.

[@dinohvp9488]

@@DinoDude8269 indeed, teno and pachy got left in the dust. The maia kicks are way harder and more situational than teno's so I don't think they should rebalance it, maybe making the teno's tail slam stronger and not adding bleed to any of maia's attacks. and pachy... poor pachy

[@Pica_78]

Dibble definitely stand a chance against maia I'm gonna ask you to press the brakes on that.

[@TheHuffur]

Against one, more than one and they can easily run you over with whoever is not in front of you. The magic of stuns is that it does not really matter how good you or your dino is when the opponent can make you unable to do anything, even a 1v1 I would have to give the advantage to the Maia since it has a fair bit more health and can more or less instantly stun the Dibble, Maia can move around and try to bait out attacks then rush in with a stun + stomp. Even if the Dibble is able to trade 1 attack as the Maia moves away the Maia still wins that trade in the end by simply outlasting the Dibble with health.

[@Diobot]

​@@TheHuffuridk, maia relies alot of running things down, so maybe it could make it bleed too much? idk

[@EssiePlaysYT]

Against one, of course! But more than one will stun lock you, can't really do anything if you're stuck getting knocked over again again while the others stomp your back. They ARE heavier than a FG dibble after all, makes sense that they stun you more than you can stun them. Doesnt help that their group limit is 10. Goodluck finding a solo maia, otherwise you'll prob get jumped

[@Pica_78]

@TheHuffur A diablo who knows what they're doing will have zero issue facing one maia because how slow they turn. Also a lot of people seem to forget that dibble has block which will negate maias cc. It's by far not in maias favor. Idc about being outnumbered of course the tables will be turned. 2 v 2 the outcome will more often than not will again be in diablos favor who btw also has reduced headshot multiplier and instant stun abilities on maia.

[@TheHuffur]

@@Diobot The blood pool is usually tied to the weight/health of the dinos so a Maia has a lot of blood and possibly good bleed resistance on top. Seen a couple of videos of Maias tanking like 3-4 good hits from a Dibble and still casually running around without their blood dropping much at all.

[@BeckMan-ev7ku]

And we thought Maia was not capable of defending itself

[@Bleghspread]

My solution: Qadruped stance - Stronger attacks, less stam consumption. Bipedal stance - Weak attacks with more stam consumption. People be saying it is huge galli so let it be huge galli - if you kick way too much you are out of stam. Either run or fight, not both.

[@Anupamprime]

This Game is Dumpster Fire everytime... Added Maia without Allo and Now People Realising that it was a bad move

[@lanedamron5833]

@@Anupamprime wasn’t a bad move, people just got complacent with being able to fight anything and everything. Now something is literally designed for running and fighting. Man the player base doesn’t have a brain sometimes

[@Kit_Osix]

@@lanedamron5833 Nah they're right. the game is a dumpster fire. 9 years in development and their product is perpetually in a sub-par state. There is no practical defense for it.

[@thetinyrexy4798]

@@Kit_Osix uhhh they remake the whole shit from zero? sometimes ya must remember that legacy and evrima is different

[@ivanking527]

Maia went from free eats to an absolute monster, it’s hilarious af

[@ogulcanketenci7616]

Peak isle balance issue right there

[@zainyfasanyanorris9023]

Ever heard of a HT?

[@VV-db8vh]

​​@@zainyfasanyanorris9023exactly, people clearly don't understand the hordetest is to balance it before release. And also to fix bugs.

[@Try-O-too]

Dibble can beat the breaks off Maia, with relative ease as long as the dibble is skilled, and Maia bleeds out super quickly if you’re not careful. but I will say your right that Maia should be much slower

[@FatPigeon-6]

Not true, currently Maia knocks down dibble with it’s regular attack

[@Try-O-too]

@ yea, but dibble also stuns Maia with it’s running attacks, and moves fast enough to out maneuver Maia even if it’s slower in a dead sprint. While yes, I think Maia beats dib in a straight 1v1, a skilled dibble can still beat maia, they just have to switch up their playstyle and not facetank like they normally do

[@Nomorevideos-f5p]

I’m waiting for maia to get heavily nerfed

[@maxkudos5343]

Herbivores the real apex predator

[@flashgordon6510]

They need to slow it down, for sure. Has anyone tried an adult stego against it? If they're going to have maia on official, then I see no reason why they shouldn't have Rex too, because what else can take them down?

[@kav2538]

Maias doesnt stand a chance against an adult stego. Stego is balanced to fight an apex that is not playable to the public yet

[@kingkrool94]

The issue there will be what can compete with Rex? You need animals that stand a chance like a trike, theri, and others like spino and Acro. What we need now is allo and other mid-tiers

[@Jerry_2707]

They can Make Maia slower, it has runner playstile, and rex is not gonna be added on oficcials untill around 5-10 apexes are already done to be implementen on the Game and the Game already have most of the midium, Big dinos, we already know rex is coming with trike, probably spino + deinocheirus, their + giga and those stuff, all apexes coming into Game r coming with a oponent, rn Maia don't have anything oponent, we need Allo to be done soon so there's no overpopulation on maias.

[@sku4d_942]

Allo will do the work my friend we just have to wait a little more

[@Efrw]

Rex will be pretty easily taken on by half coordinated raptor packs​ I think, with the new pounce mechanics and the punce actually working (besides the %chance bucking of course) they melt most of the roster @@kingkrool94

[@albino4160]

If allo is only 3 tons the dps on that thing is gonna have to be insane to even take down maias, simple thing to understand is allo is gonna be a giant raptor, raptors can bleed anything in game at that weight class image 3x the size of a Normal raptor, bleed dmg is not to be messed around with bigger carnis

[@Doingmything0]

Allo doesnt play like a giant raptor its a creature that has brute force and endurance too wittle stuff down and bleed being a extra positive added too that hunting, fighting style

[@Anupamprime]

Allo in legacy was something like 3.1 Tons with 385 or 500 something bite force

[@SkeleCCXL]

​​​@@Anupamprime 2.8 tons and 300 bite force. but Maia was also 2.8~ tons in legacy so it's liable to change.

[@InkGraffiti]

sorry for so many comments, commenting as i go :: another thing that needs changing is dilo's run sound. why does dilo sound like the heaviest thing in the game. why does he sound literally just as heavy as maia when he's BARELY bigger than raptor lol

[@yingapore]

oh look its me in the first clip, wild that you almost won like a 1v8, both of us were on red when you died

[@youtubealt243]

You have to consider attack speed and turn too. Dibble actually rolls Maia in a fight, the stomp burst damage is high but dps is terrible bc it takes so long to re-use, plus it locks Maia in place so it can get assrid pretty easily Idk if I’d consider Maia op, but if it is, it’s the agility that needs nerfing, so it has more openings to outplay

[@youtubealt243]

Anyway, nerf pachy another 3 times and make it unable to charge. Or do any damage at all.

[@thegaminggman5597]

maia isnt op by itself, but a group of more then 3 adults is nigh immortal

[@badvibesforeverxo2022]

WE ARE GETTING READY FOR THE NEXT STAGES IN THE ISLE.

[@Chunkysdead94]

Fair and balanced.

[@minussoup9183]

Give Diabl a counter knockdown ability from the front. This would stagger any would be attacker that charges it. I feel like this is within the realm of of possibilities for Diabl with its frail and stocky build

[@bakka8298]

the devs are cooking cereal well done

[@Mayl0-YT]

i think we need: Maia: 45km/h, 2.8T, atk 50-250 Dibble: 37.8km/h 3T, atk 200-300 Teno: 45.5km/h, 1.5T, atk 125-250 Pachy: 46.5km/h, 500kg, atk 100-150

[@FUNGUSLORD]

Dibble still wins in a face tank against Maia

[@MegaAppleshit]

I mean, yeah, but how often do you think a Maia will just let you beat on it when they are fast enough to do hit and runs?

[@Chinobi619]

Pachys been obsolete for a long time lmao

[@СергійЯремчук-м4р]

Allo definitely wont be faster than maia, i wonder what the winning strategy would look like for allo?

[@minussoup9183]

Make Pachy’s charge and overwrite any other charging ability (except kicks/standing/defensive abilities), this means packs can charge a charging carno, Diabl, and even Maia. This is realistic because of how Packy is built, thickest skull in the game, plus its vertebrae can perfectly line up to observe any impact that the skill can realistically.

[@InkGraffiti]

I hope they buff carno. I remember 1v1 maia and carno on legacy was an even toss mostly based on skill. was always a really fun fight during an era of the game where most fights weren't particularly fun ( "run in circle and bite its booty!" was literally all fights )

[@thieffe]

The Maia being faster in bipedal makes no sense

[@Chinobi619]

What upsets me is that they came out with the Maia before the allo. They know we wanted the allo. This is herbi player preference

[@swiftyy4086]

im glad u made this video, the isle balancing lately has been an actual catastrophe and i genuinely dont understand what the devs were thinking when they cooked up maia's stats. just for reference, maia is also slightly faster than omni. that in itself just explains their logic i dont doubt they will change it but i hope they nerf correctly

[@InkGraffiti]

what i would do is keep maia's stomp damage, but slow the animation down a bit + speed up the 'get up' animation for things knocked over by maia. if the stomp is very hard to land it'll make its high damage yield a lot more understandable. I would not buff or nerf its other attacks, this would already encourage players to use them rather than the stomp just for being way easier to land the hits. And similar to what someone else said :: I'd make it easier to stun or something in bipedal stance.. or if we want to take a card from Beast of Bermuda's book, make it so it cannot go up hills very well in bipedal and must drop to quadrupedal so it doesn't lose near as much speed

[@TheKingofCoral]

They need to reduce damage from 300 to like 100 they need to make it good at running and tanking hits but not a good fighter also need to get rid of all this stun shit

[@loffe54]

Allosaurus should have been realesed with it as a counter part

[@thieffe]

All strength stats should be -50% unless it’s defending a nest (like cera with body) or partied with a juvi or hatchling. The animal is the “good mother” so give it superhuman mom strength but make it weaker

[@Superkoolaid857]

Im commenting again because your exactly right, i literally called that Tenno was going to be made useless by Mia and it absolutely has now god these devs are brain dead

[@Rocketbunny1417]

Bruh imagine when all comes 💀💀

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

0:25 maybe cera should learn from that, it isnt faster than the things that can kill it (everything)

[@wipeout1445]

maia on unofficials now LMAO

[@goose-gz2ik]

They should decrease the bipedal running speed by a good bit and increase the quad running speed very slightly, but make the trot of the quad mode faster than bipedal, then increase the damage of everything it does.

[@benmarsh2175]

The stun locking is the worst part. It’s worse than when pachy first released. A dibble has the stats to fight a maia but the shoulder swing literally turns you 90 degrees and leaves your side open for an attack + applied a stun.

[@SimonBauer]

You can chase down a dilo is obscene lol - raptors are gonna be making a come back

[@kitkat5596]

I just told everyone in the isle discord that Maia can bully Diablo and not a single one gave a shit lmao, thats the balance of this game, Devs dont know how, and the players dont either lol.

[@bran9642]

I love maia.

[@GREASYMILK5567]

If dondi just made Maia a tiny bit slower then dibble then it would be still overpowered but at least animals could get away from it

[@sku4d_942]

They should fix as soon as posible the stun lock

[@johndasalty111]

Quick question what's the button to do that running shoulder check?

[@bran9642]

sprint, look right or left, rmb

[@Some1-2]

i like how maia can actualy run awy from stuff, but i agree that he is dealing too mutsh damage for the play style he is supose to have, if is up to me i would nef the damage and the stamina.

[@furiatwielki9748]

Single Cera literally dying from every bigger herbivore. Can't outrun Teno,Maia, barely running from Diablo. That's a poor Dino these days and Carno is his useless brother. I think it's a preview to bigger Carniv like Trex and Allo.

[@Skinwalker..]

its a hordetest, so hopefully they'll atleast slow maia down in the main ver

[@singingcrow439]

Can a pachy even fracture mia?

[@FatPigeon-6]

Nope

[@alien-w4p]

imo Maia should be a speedy tank, very heavy and very fast BUT have veeery low attack, seeing theyre supposted to be escaping rather than fighting back. i think nerfing the attack from like 100-300 to ~100-150 or making most of the attacks stun rather than dmg it could make it more balanced, im totally expecting the devs to just not do anything because "we're preparing for Rex!" or just nerf Maia until its insufferable to play with it

[@GaminHedgehog]

Only weakness this thing has is it's nv which is pretty much nothing when people use gamma XD

[@TheHuffur]

"B-b-but Maia does no damage lol! Its weak!" Basically every youtube commenter with hoardtest release whenever anyone pointed out it seem broke as F.

[@carbonfibercross5678]

I havent played The Isle in a bit but based of this vid and a bunch of comments, Maia is only truly OP with more than 1. "We killed him fast." Well yeah its a 2v1 with something with lower health 💀.Yeah it definitely is too fast and prob needs a stun cooldown if there isnt one already.

[@whiterabbitpony]

3:10 holy that is so dumb and op. Also why does your nv look weird at 7:20

[@KhanArtist3]

In game Maia is almost 4 tons in no way should it be sprinting down anything. Its top speed should be like 34kmh which would mean allo could be around 32-37 without ambush which is about how fast it was irl. This means that anything that can't fight back can run and allo is still able to catch it

[@itsBonjo]

They gotta make Maia weaker and cera faster. Honestly the devs keep changing carno to balance it against cera, but the real problem is just how slow cera is.

[@Mario13bacano]

Cera should NEVER receive more buffs.

[@mikkelmoland9571]

Cera should not be faster, but Maia definitely needs nerfs

[@ExodiaSMASH]

I dont mind maias abilities but I do think they are a bit to fast for a heavy weight dino

[@lanedamron5833]

Play Omniraptor, the Maia is obsolete…👀 people forget what certain Dino’s were designed for

[@FatPigeon-6]

all it takes is one knockdown and a stomp. That raptor is done for

[@lanedamron5833]

@ sure… now have 11 more in the fight…

[@sirartorix389]

@@lanedamron5833 yes and I have to spend another 2 hours wasting my time to die again and again and again

[@lanedamron5833]

@ that’s the game? You think you just get to be a large dinosaur without actually having the skill set and ability to reach that? I’m sorry but you need to learn how to survive and not just want to pvp. Sounds to me like you have a playstyle problem that reflects into your own skills. Try and stay alive and not fight anything that looks at you lol

[@Loafocity]

was the 1st background footage recorded on na1? because that looks like the exact fight me and a group fought about 20 hours ago from this comment. (i believe i was the cera in mud)

[@ThanksImGoood]

put its speed and weight down and make bi stance take more dmg + be knocked easier

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

a 3.8 ton simply shouldnt be that fast, make it 40kmh, it would still be unrealistic but at least is not as fast as the 450kg dinosaur

[@karenboy1005]

I'm just worried that they're gonna focus on all the wrong things when they're inevitably gonna rebalance it. Neither the speed nor the health are the problem, the problem is its CC capabilities. Just remove the stun on the stomp altogether since the shove already has a stun so there's no point in having another one, and its stun thresholds need tuned down too so that it can't stun and knock down full adult Dibbles. I disagree that Pachy and Teno are really in any real danger, Maia is really easy to out-maneuver.

[@jimmygreenspan8832]

Well that is why it's hordeTESTing.... This isn't the final build. Also if it's op they should just nerf its damage.

[@Luis-kj4pt]

Dont forget that maias night vision is absolutily DOGSHIT u can definitly hunt them at night and also I play officals but I even know if I want I DONT HAVE TO

[@fantinemonteiro3207]

i guess wait for allo to come out in 50 years to maybe overpower the rest of the carnivore roaster :) ive stopped playing this game cuz of the balance/crashes/bugs issue, PoT is just better at this point

[@Superkoolaid857]

Guys dont worry Mia is balanced against allo and rex so its okay right guys? Guys?

[@mattblair4719]

you said pachy is similar size ??? whattttt

[@fatlizard_]

I need people to understand, herbivore does not mean PASSIVE, FRIENDLY or PEACEFUL. They can also be deadly and aggressive and attack on sight, modern day herbivores like rhino, hippo, moose etc will attack you just for existing near it they can be just as nasty as a carnivore could be. I hate it so much when people cry about herbivore players being 'kos'. Let people play the game they bought how THEY want. You can have herds of multiple species, yes, but there will be spats between them occasionally too. Ive literally seen zebras KO baby rhinos and elephants bullying ampelopes. The argument that it isnt realistic is not a good one. This does not mean i am defending maia before anyone gets the wrong idea.

[@gibbster4097]

Heres literally all I'd want done to maia to make it more balanced. Nerf the speed to like 40kmph, it doesnt need raptor speed to outrun its larger predators unless theyre also making those predators absurdly fast which at that point I'd rather not play the game. Nerf its stamina in its speed stance, so that you have an actual reason to use quadruped stance outside of using it in combat. I'd also keep its damage around the same values it has currently as they seem just fine for its intended purpose. Nerf its weight as well, theres no reason it would need to be even larger than diablo currently is. You could bring it to 2.8 tons or maybe even 3.2 and I'd be okay with it but something needs to be done for this animal. I sort of figured it was going to be broken on launch and I thought at first it seemed balanced because of its quote and quote low damage but upon seeing people get a hang of the playable better its easy to see that it was about as broken as I feared it would be. I really hope they nerf this thing.

[@Gamartt]

actually maia stomp deal 350 not 300

[@VV-db8vh]

🤓🤓🤡

[@Eldron4]

I think allo will be 2.6 tons

[@GingerSquatch_Outdoors]

This game is becoming harder to enjoy anymore...

[@eagleflyng6866]

they increased pachy speed?

[@uncleyoda.]

how are you playing maia? is it out?

[@Nzuri.]

hordetest branch

[@MrKieren96]

I play dilo alot of horde test and it's fairly easy to kill maias

[@beezaluv]

Dk why in gods name they thought this thing would be balanced this is just more powertrip herbi slop Bruh

[@Nigel_BC]

Slower with less health and less stamina. Fixed.

[@GrannySlapp3r]

And that’s only mid tier.

[@0karmaticfrost010]

i love maia, it was my fave in the og isle, but this is just gross... dondi needs to pay someone else to balance his game jesus

[@StarcraftGT500]

This is so bad for the game, it’s already hard enough to play solo cera, with this there’s literally no point in even trying. Some jerk will just run you down and ruin your day. Reminds me of the stupid pachy mega packs you couldn’t run away from but way worse…..

[@VV-db8vh]

That's why there's a hordetest, to balance new dinosaurs for the main game, and to fix any major bugs.

[@StarcraftGT500]

@@VV-db8vh Right, but it's the isle we're talking about here... It's not "balanced" in the slightest.. The devs do what they do.

[@jeremymiller7385]

After i have put in over 2k hours on gateway I think I might stop after next patch. I main dilo.I grow to die, You cant even run from them. The mixpackers are going to be just to much. The people crying about mia has no dmg, don't understand this game.

[@tunaozturk2639]

U are not thinking dps u are just looking at raw dmg maias attacks are rly slow and from my experience maia has 0 chance against a solo omni raptor or dilo unlike others (exept pachy its dogshit) maia great against big opponents stuf like cera dibble n shit but horrriiiible against smol crestures if the raltor knows what its doing it will win easyly

[@smokingun710]

How can they fail this bad at balancing a game lol wtf? I miss old Carno sooo fkn bad.

[@oliver_45766]

Woag

[@mirr1903]

Make pachy faster

[@Non-e5b]

isnt it supposed to be a fast tanky creature? its currently the largest creature in the game its stats are SUPPOSED to reflect that it is a huge tanky herbivore with massive legs that runs fast your basically complaining that they made the creature how its supposed to be? and YES HERBIS WILL attack each other when it comes to fighting over resources like good nesting grounds and fighting over food??? also look at the size of mia its a HUGE animal with lots of muscle and weight behind its attacks, if it hits you it WILL do damage and also herbis are hard enough to play as so why is it an issue that they made a herbivore that can actually have a decent chance to win fights against mega/mix packs. AND just to finish off, you also have to think about ALL the other LARGE AF carnivores they are adding to the game. if something that is that large isnt fast or strong like they made it (like its supposed to be) then playing as mia would make you a walking buffet that just does 0 dmg to you until it dies because it couldn't run away or defend itself. youre basically complaining that its not easy to kill a big ass herbivore

[@JesusGFitness]

Umm am I the only one that thinks Maia is ass I took out 3 FG with two other raptors

[@DeinoCheirus]

Why is maia capable of knocking down a diablo? It rlly shouldnt be knocking down diablos bruh

[@Rodolfien]

Maia too weak please dmg buff