Mailmen Used to Be Middle Class. Now They're Living in Poverty

[@summaryjudgment]

Growing up in the 90's, I remember people always saying mailmen made good money.

[@michaelherring7210]

We used to tip our mail carrier and give the Christmas presents, just like the trash removal people. Now I have to beg for them to take the trash they’re supposed to. My mail is horrendous. My neighbors and I constantly get each other’s mail, and that’s because they’re not being paid enough, or their deadlines are too ridiculous.

[@johnnycab8986]

They still do. Here's how the USPS is so messed up: for pretty much forever, USPS workers would pool all their overtime for retiring workers. People in their last years would work mad overtime (as much as they wanted) and earn like 100k+ working 60-80 hours a week. Their pension is based on their highest earning years, so their pension would be like 50k a year for life. And the average age of retirement in the USPS is like 58. So you get 50k a year for life retiring in their 50s. And it gets even worse- after they retire, they then re-apply after a short time and get rehired, and they are paid at their retiring salary and they still get to collect pension on top of this. This is why the USPS has over 300 billion in unfunded liabilities, their unions/workers basically commit fraud/scam to pull in crazy money and now the organization is completely screwed/bankrupted from that. Dejoy is the guy they brought in to stop this nonsense which is why he is so maligned, so many people that have been working at the USPS realize they need to get out now if they want to do their pension fraud scheme, so now there are lots of new workers who don't know what they are doing. My uncle was a postal worker and did this scheme, he retired at like 56 with a 100k pension. Now these guys are whining because the chickens are coming home to roost. Everything attached to public sector work is basically fraudulent schemes in pay/pension. Most government and government adjacent work does this scheme. The country is bankrupted from it, and people in the private sector no longer can pay the taxes to upkeep with the fraud and these people have the cajones to whine about how they should be getting paid more when they are the reason everyone is broke these days.

[@stoplosslolwut]

@@johnnycab8986 making stuff up must be so fun.

[@johnnycab8986]

@@stoplosslolwut Truth hurts.

[@JoeKyser]

My grandpa had a summer home and lived in a huge 3 floor home. He fixed a lot of lives between dad, uncle, and his sisters. He had to have been doing pretty good at the post office.

[@russell154]

My father was a letter carrier for 35 years a proud member of the NALC. He retired in 2000 and before he did he was able to provide a solid middle class lifestyle for his three kids and sent us all to college. He was so well thought of by his route families and businesses he was often given baked goods and at Christmas the cards with tips inside always blew my mind. This new reality breaks my heart.

[@MichaelClemons00]

Our communities used to be lively, social media and isolation has led to newer gen’s to abandon these ideals. As a gen z myself I wish we still had these type of connections still

[@josephreynolds2401]

​​@@MichaelClemons00 Older generations made social media a poorly regulated cesspool. Older generations in government pushed for this to happen to the post office or let it happen quietly when they made it a for-profit insitution. Gen Z wasn't there to fuck it up.

[@claytonjames4779]

This is what happens when you try to run agencies that are Republic benefit as a business. It takes the people out of it then they just become numbers

[@borisb1831]

That guy is disgustingly hideous

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

So? He's from the old times

[@frankjoseph4273]

Public school teachers and mail carriers should be the definition of middle class

[@rustyjeep2469]

And tradespeople. I'm a skilled mechanic with a two year degree and don't even get paid enough to cover rent on a small place and basic necessities.

[@frankjoseph4273]

@rustyjeep2469 the plumbers here arrive in golden carriages

[@debbylou5729]

School teachers make just $10,000 less than nurses yearly. They get 3 months off, don’t have to physically move patients no matter what the size and don’t work shifts. They’re getting enough money

[@yuppystick]

Mail people should make minimum wage. It's not skilled work.

[@debbylou5729]

@ you’d accept mail from a Burger King worker? What I find in my bag is seldom what I asked for

[@romeysiamese6662]

Teachers as well. Speaking for myself. If I didn’t have adult family members sharing the rent with me, I’d be homeless. Old car, purchase only necessities. Conserve water, power and my mental health.

[@fkoff5150]

PUBLIC UNIONS ARE ANTI-AMERICAN😘

[@elleon00]

Teachers ok i agree (you do study to become teacher right?) but mailmen? Then who should get the lowest salaries?

[@rener44]

You make 19 an hr ?

[@Eric-Truong]

@@rener44average teacher makes 24

[@fkoff5150]

GET RID OF THE PUBLIC UNION AND YOU WILL HAVE MORE MONEY!

[@kristincarr118]

I'm a caregiver and one of my clients raised SIX kids on a mailman salary. Family of 8 survived on the pay of a mail carrier. Today, 1 person can barely survive on what they make. Absolutely disgusting.

[@rebeccaspratling2865]

I agree.

[@ethansleepybear]

and with orange man coming in its just going to get worse for the USPS. based merely off of his previous time in office.

[@Freek314]

@@rebeccaspratling2865 This is simply not true.... Median wage of over $27.00 an hour. If you spend all your money on BS then you can never have enough money.

[@crazysquirrel9425]

Social Security is WORSE.

[@ethansleepybear]

@@crazysquirrel9425 that shits gonna get ripped apart over the next 4 years 🤣🤣

[@IronLB-rv3jk]

The GREED at the top will destroy the backbone of this country. It's a matter of time before we ALL are unable to make it. ROME IS BURNING!

[@coopsnz1]

End goal communism we all be poor except poltical class like cuba marxist ! Moron vote for more taxes & bigger government

[@watamatafoyu]

We're right in the middle of it breaking the backbone. So much money moving upward only. The pigs are taking over the farmhouse.

[@kyleoates6367]

The greed has already destroyed the backbone of this country. No moral or virtuous country would have elected a sexual predator, convicted fraudster, and well known conman into office... twice. There is no backbone left when that criminals opposition couldn't even stand up to the greedy and call for fair minimum wages, criminalization of stock buybacks, journalistic integrity laws, and heavy taxation of the highest earners. No, there is no backbone left. All that's left to do is wait for the collapse that forces the hand of the government either through violent revolution or truly tumultuous times like the Great Depression for 75%+ of the population to force a return to the socialist tempering that FDR instituted to reign in the greed. Until then, all we can do is not stand out too much to our autocrat, aristocrat, and oligarch overlords.

[@Watch-0w1]

People don't respect other government job that isn't cop. It disgusting how fireman have to beg, postman work like dog but got fund for military equipment

[@TheKlecker1]

We are controlled by the bankers and our political tyrants. time to walk away from this government and start our own or revolt. Do we really want to pass this on to our children to fight against after it gets even worse???

[@reformedzoomer]

Middle managers tracking employees so they don't take breaks... Why not just take out middle management and hire another 5 workers?

[@adamhuffman3354]

Right on the money! It’s all about the model that companies use. Managers are more disposable than actual workers. A lot of them don’t know that.

[@J_wsh]

@@salometipsandtricks2786 How does that help this conversation?

[@z0tw]

I work for a FedEx contractor. I love my middle management bosses. They got my back all the time. If I cannot take something because it's too heavy or I've got too much stuff to deliver, they'll help me out and deliver the stuff for me. They wash my truck, give me snacks and drinks when we get busy, and are very fair people. I wouldn't be shocked if USPS is way more fucking problematic than a majority of FedEx. I see some pretty shitty trucks for FedEx workers on the subreddit, but overall it might vary depending on geographical location.

[@willaerley7140]

@@z0twYou’re lucky. PO managers get bonuses for working us like dogs.

[@kenny8351]

@@z0tw I did 15 yrs with Fedex. A SCAB company who run their workers into the ground and fire them without cause. Favoritism and nepotism is the rule. If they ever get ahold of the post office, you can say goodbye to sixty cent stamps.

[@ErinWilke]

No one makes enough anymore in the bulk of jobs. Nothing pays enough for rent. It's depressing and completely unacceptable. This country has gone completely to corporations and we are all suffering. It has to change

[@royharper2003]

not everyone is suffering, get a grip

[@ThoriumBorium]

​@@royharper2003Homelessness increased 22% last year. The system is failing.

[@dlee5272]

@@royharper2003 bottom 80% getting exploited mercilessly. get a grip wake up. bottom 60% living paycheck to paycheck litterally. This due to Wallstreet serving shareholders pumping up any asset they can find,extract profit and leave carcass behind. Single family homes being bought up by private equity skyrocketing average home prices doubled . get a grip. Colluding to raise rents via apps for landlords. Raised rents 76% in Phoenix in 5 years. Illegal. Sickening.

[@newtkar4067]

It's only gonna get worse with the corporate billionaires owning trumps election results. It's over with for we the people unless we fight back. The unions supported trump after Biden fought for the UAW workers and was the first president to walk a union picket line. Biden brought UAW jobs back to the USA, he also reinstated their retirement that trump allowed them to lose. This is why America is like we are, uneducated voters or don't care. No excuse for ignorance!

[@newtkar4067]

​as long as your ok just screw the others! Thats why we are in this mess. When you are in need maybe people won't care about you! Good ridance!

[@ximkai8794]

But your senator has no problems passing a pay raise for themselves in congress

[@Bangin0utWest]

Only 1 party is historically AGAINST unions

[@iamchaunceman]

Exactly. They also seem to like the insurance benefits they don’t want all of us to get. Rich people should never rule the middle class in a democracy

[@thanhquanky]

@@iamchaunceman then don't vote them in office.

[@patriciatumlin7326]

@@iamchaunceman We're not a democracy, we're a Republic, if we can keep it.😕

[@wesleytheanonymous3751]

​@@thanhquankyThe only ones who can afford to run for office are the wealthy.

[@ssgg23]

How in the world do these cars still not have air conditioning. That should straight up be illegal.

[@zaedrah3378]

Ups driver here. We were supposed to get ac, but it's probably not coming for at least 10 years. You just get used to the heat.

[@joshfacio9379]

My partner works for a popular courier company and most of their trucks dont have ac and break down a lot and were in phoenix az where it gets 120. They also are tracked and dont get bathroom breaks, alot of the workers use bottles to urinate and a bucket with catlitter if they have to defecate, all in the back of the hot trucks in summer.

[@truthiscensored]

Those Trucks/Jeeps are old and raggedy. No A.C and shake/vibrate bad when going over 50 mph. I once had to deliver mail in 113 degrees. Solution is drink a lot of water and have cold water and a cold wet towel around your neck to keep cool

[@chiefaborigine242]

It's illegal not to have heat but it's legal to not have air...from my understanding and I have a government job that was what I was told smh it's wild

[@bjb7587]

Post office just announced new electric vehicles with AC. I don't recall when they will start the replacement prices.

[@jdb2722]

My dad is a retired rural mailman. He started at 7am and was home a little after 1pm everyday. He made good money. If you consider inflation he lived a far better life than I do as a server engineer.

[@garygerard4290]

does 'server engineer' mean a waitress?

[@jdb2722]

@ 😂 that would be an awesome way to call yourself a waitress. I work in IT. I have been working in Microsoft for about 15 years but am currently changing to Linux and AWS. Would have been a very high paying job 20 years ago and now it’s above average at best. Like I mentioned my dad lived a better life than me and he can barely write and didn’t finish high school. He retired at 54 because he had a years worth of PTO saved up and he receives a pension.

[@Me-eb3wv]

@@garygerard4290server engineer is an IT professional that specializes in massive computers. Think of a computer 10x the size of your current PC with 5x the power.

[@Me-eb3wv]

@@jdb2722It’s crazy how much wages have dropped for IT. 20 years ago some kid fresh outta highschool could get certified and get in the industry with 0 college debt making good money. If I’m correct. These days hiring managers won’t give you a call unless if you have a bachelors in IT or CS with a minimum of 5 years experience just to make $65k-$75k, which may sound decent but historically IT has paid above average. If wages had kept with the times the average salary for an experience IT worker should be in the $115k-$160k range. $75k would have been the starting salary adjusted for inflation.

[@pwp8737]

@@garygerard4290 I think he/she means they are servicing computer servers.

[@peacefulsoldierTX]

My buddy was a carrier in Dowers Grove. Became so underpaid and depressed he went missing for a year. Then they found his body in the woods a year later.

[@JoeBlow-fp5ng]

That is mental illness and personal issues. Nothing to do with a USPS job.

[@dockcase8158]

The work can tear you down. Have to have a reason to keep pushing.

[@glidewell19]

I’ve been a carrier for 20 years and everything in this video is right. It got worse around 10 years ago when the Post Office hired more management, and started tracking every minute of our day with our scanners. Bottom line is management in my office who make 10 to $20,000 more than me get bonuses upwards of 5 to $10,000 dollars to cut our hours and harass us and they don’t even touch the mail!!!

[@sorrynormal6551]

My understanding is that the USPS management is NOT union but the rest of the workers are. This naturally sets management against the people who actually do all of the work. Who thought that was a good idea?

[@tissuepaper9962]

​@@sorrynormal6551managers are not laborers; they don't belong in a union.

[@mr_unsane]

@@sorrynormal6551 Oh you have no idea how hostile the work environment is between management and the union employees. THE WORST!

[@jonhall3151]

They should track where you are every minute of your day while you are supposed to be working, not parked under a shade tree napping. Also, y’all need to stay off your phones when driving.

[@tissuepaper9962]

@@jonhall3151 don't choke on that boot.

[@survivormary1126]

My Letter carried saved y neighbors life. She came and told me he hadn't picked up his mail in 2 days. We involved the police and they found him on his floor nearly dead and he was rushed to the Hospital by ambulance. She is wonderful caring person and a badass to boot! That is a brutal Job!!!!

[@n3rfth1s58]

I’ve seen multiple times letter carriers saved lives. This happens a lot. Postmen are the only people that see every house every day. They walk or drive every street people live on.

[@NotAshleyMoon]

I work as an engineer for a top grocer in the US, union job, all the guys who have been there for 30 years were top middle class. Bought houses, sent kids to college, nice vacations etc. All of us that are now starting out the last 5 years don’t even qualify for apartments on our income. It used to be that they made double the average minimum wage in each state. And now we’re barely above it. Not even a liveable wage

[@dannythompson1948]

Where are you? Come out to California. I make $68.07 an hour as a engineer for a hospital, plus $5 an hour for being a relief. That's $151k a year. Not the best, but not the worst either.

[@abellseaman4114]

LIE-berals and their Woke allies WANT THINGS THIS WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIE-berals DO NOT WANT US TO OWN ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To own a car or a fishing boat or an atv means you are using FOSSIL FUEL and LIE-berals DO NOT PERMIT THAT - thus LIE-berals consider it a GOOD THING to impoverish the public so they will not have any toys that LIE-berals do not approve of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In related news- LIE-berals want us to EAT LES MEAT and to consume less sugar and less fried stuff- so again they are happy to impoverish us in order to limit our ability to buy junk foods and fast foods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIE-beral social engineers are working diligently to IMPOVERISH US ALL in order to meddle with and gain GOVT CONTROL of our lives and to make it easier to BUY OUR VOTES - as LIE -berals have figured out we will sell them our votes more cheaply if we are ECONOMICALLY DESPERATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@72marshflower15]

@@NotAshleyMoon the post master general that Trump appointed is who gutted the post office.

[@selz4029]

@@dannythompson1948 yeah and i make 50,000k a/y in wisconsin and i am well fed, have a 177,770$ home at 2.5% on 3 acres and im chilling. get the fuck out of that state. "151k, not the best" lmaooooooooo

[@72marshflower15]

@@dannythompson1948 try living on 15k, then I’ll be impressed, lol.. You’re missing the point. Pay to play as the American way is a means to stay impoverished, hm’k?

[@BendyChoy]

I’m 61 years old and carrying $98,000 in debt in 2025. With $45,000 in credit cards, $20,000 on a car loan, $18,000 in personal loans, $15,000 from a failed business venture.

[@BendyChoy]

I’m seeking guidance should I tackle high-interest debts first or smaller balances for momentum? How can I negotiate with creditors to ease the burden?

[@rodgertim2881]

Then,on your own you could seek out several of these financial advisors, make sure the one you settle on is a fiduciary and not a fake. Know what you're getting out of it and see if your targets can be met.

[@BarbaraPearson55]

I have said this severally,Money invested is far better than money saved, when you invest it gives you the opportunity to increase your financial worth.

[@BendyChoy]

How did you find a good finance advisor? How do you know if they are trustworthy and competent.

[@BarbaraPearson55]

I started out with Joseph Nick Cahill,great advisor. I got very lucky to have found him especially after my marriage crisis & consider him a good friend now.

[@tico78742]

The greed worldwide is causing the birth rates to drop. Wages aren’t keeping up with inflation. It’s sad.

[@JohnB-nq4js]

Feminism is causing it. But true, the Democrats have made everyone poorer.

[@vickijohnson9367]

@@tico78742 Only in countries where women are free to choose. The birth rate in oppressive nations continues to rise. A really interesting fact that is never expressed by finance owned businesses, including media and governments, is that the population of humans on the earth has only exploded just in the last 200 years, since we started using fossil fuels. The impact of 8 billion humans in our current modern civilization is nothing short of a disaster for our planet. But, people that only see what is around them, believing what they are told, cannot see it. The documentary by Jeff Gibbs, “Planet Of Humans” is more honesty than you will ever hear inside our world run by those who crave electronic currency and power, and have no intention to help life on earth, they only want to control profiting off of us.

[@willw-lz8fx]

birth rates are dropping because no sane person wants to bring kids into this mad world.

[@JohnBerry-z7o]

GREED 100% !!

[@TriWaZe]

Let it drop. Then maybe there wont be a million people to compete for jobs with

[@riddell26]

Anything below a $1/hr boost,is not a *raise* . Its a slap in the face and kick in the balls.

[@PerryCaravello-fz7jn]

It’s 1.3% per year of a three year contract. Plus biannual COLA (Cost of Living Adjustments) for the duration of the contract. Plus regular step increases on the pay scale and retroactive pay for the negotiation period. This video is so misleading and the comment section is completely ignorant

[@Wholebakedcooky]

​@@PerryCaravello-fz7jn so are you saying mail carriers make enough to live comfortably and raise a family? I don't think all of the things you mentioned implies that they are making a proper livable wage, like most jobs in today's economy everyone is getting screwed over in the paycheck department

[@PerryCaravello-fz7jn]

@@Wholebakedcooky What is “living comfortably” to you? Postal workers have to put in the time to get to a more “comfortable” part of the pay scale. They currently are starting at 46k (at the 45th percentile of individual income earners in the US) as a fulltime employee and top out at 75k. Once they quit complaining and ratify a labor contract, they’ll get between a 4-5k a year increase with retroactive pay. There are few jobs that provide 11 paid Federal holidays, a pension (FERS), a matched 401k (TSP) up to 5% of your base salary, 75% of your health and dental premiums and 26 vacation and sick days starting out that increase throughout your career to 40 sick and vacation days per year.

[@segaoldschoolsega925]

Warehouses raise 25 cents to 75 cents 😅😂😂😂😂😂

[@Wholebakedcooky]

​@@PerryCaravello-fz7jn living comfortable is not sleeping in your car, worried about medical bills, or having hot water... 45k doesnt seem too bad in the middle of the country where living expenses isnt as high but about a mail carrier in a dense city like New York or Chicago. Thoae are not cheap cities to live in. Im just trying to understand why you think having less is more especially in the wallet department. Just give people a better wage if they do a necessary job, as if there isnt enough money at the top to share more of.

[@castillogrande8926]

As a UPS driver, and proud Teamster, fight like hell for that new contract, and solidarity from your fellow delivery people! ✊🏼

[@Servi-e5g]

What's your hourly

[@jacobarispe973]

​@力塞 this year it could be 23 if it's your first year driving. Or around 45 if your 4 years plus driving

[@Servi-e5g]

@jacobarispe973 why is the starting salary so little? Package handler is like 21

[@jacobarispe973]

@@Servi-e5g it is what it is i did not negotiate the contract. It's honestly going to take 2 years at least to drive most places. And from what I've seen from my center most new drivers are coverage drives which jumps you to 80% of top rate. Around 38 but you are not guaranteed hours to drive just if they need you.

[@thejquinn]

Hard to do, when literally going on strike is illegal

[@AeroZephron]

My grandfather got married, bought a house and raised 3 kids on a postal salary in the 60's and 70's. It's ridiculous what's happened to this job over the years.

[@royharper2003]

carzy you've never heard of inflation

[@AeroZephron]

@royharper2003 And that's supposed to be an excuse? These are hard-working people that got squeezed out of the middle-class.

[@rudymurillo9334]

A lot has happened. There wasn’t fedex, UPS, DHL etc.. that provide much better service and email and text that got rid of letter mail.

[@AeroZephron]

@@rudymurillo9334 I'd prefer some of my mail by paper. I don't want to have to use an e-mail, sign up for this, opt out of that, every time I want to send a bill. Yeah there's competition and I'm sure the USPS could use a reform or two, but taking down a nation-wide service like that isn't the best idea.

[@mendynoma4272]

Back in 1989 , our local letter carrier personally checked up on EVERY household on his route after the devastating Loma Prieta earthquake in California ;, when we thanked him , he replied “did you think I was just a mailman ? I am a civil servant and this is part of my job .” DeVoy is despicable!

[@mendynoma4272]

DeJoy.

[@Edward_Bernays]

@@mendynoma4272 NoJoy

[@maxsavage3998]

@@mendynoma4272 whose dejoy or degrinch

[@Barbara-jn2gw]

too bad he doesn't live up to his name. Despicable

[@Sinderbad]

@@Barbara-jn2gw He does live up to his name… de-joy as in taking away joy. Think of degrade, deceased, deflower.

[@nicoj3660]

I worked as a mailman for 5 years and still only had 1-week vacation, made $20 an hour, lowest seniority, lowest paygrade, everything. Basically still a new employee even after being there for 5 years. How? Because they are exploiting the new generation with non-career positions.

[@fireboltaz]

I guarantee there were opportunities for you to advance in your workplace. You probably took no effort to do it. So it’s your problem

[@riniduzanne9325]

Post Office being run by a drumpf appointee. All downhill after he was put in charge.

[@otydal]

@@fireboltaz you quite literally don’t know what you’re talking about.

[@fireboltaz]

@@otydal as a 20 year veteran and now a government employee I do.

[@Ceclickswindows]

@@fireboltaz hey I could sit here and say you didn’t try hard enough in life in general since you were just a mailman lmao but I’m not an asshole. In defense of the other guy, there’s probably about 5 r*tarded managers there who are supposed to be doing there jobs and they know when people are supposed to get raises regardless if they’re asked for or not and they’re just told not to give them out. Unfortunately not everyone is as wise and kissass as ole fireboltaz!

[@solarguy1702]

I retired from the USPS in 2009 at 56. Watching this video reaffirms that I made the right choice.

[@eddiew2325]

I retired at age 34

[@kellykubik4514]

Don’t worry Trump will fix everything 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@firstlastlastfirst7143]

@@eddiew2325 I retire inside your mom every night.

[@dynaryda8857]

@@eddiew2325what investments and what career choice?

[@XXXXX8]

​@@dynaryda8857 he went homeless.

[@YTSparty]

I've been noticing this trend for a long time now. Retail sales used to be a livable wage. People worked at JcPenney, Macys, Sears or Hudsons were adults who raised a family on working retail. Now it's Walmart and Target, it's all teenagers making min wage. Or it's Amazon with young drivers. Working at a bank used to be a good paying job. Now Min wage. Working as a mechanic used to be a very good job, now it's just above min wage. Mowing lawns and landscaping used to pay well, now it's all migrant workers. Construction used to pay well, now that's all migrant workers. Working a call center used to pay well, now that's done in New Delhi. Working on an assembly line used to pay really well now it's like $30-40K/year if it's not done in Mexico or China.

[@hibiscushoney3759]

Summed up nicely. Accurate too. I am aware of this as well. Yet the people suffer& are blamed. By our own govt. They make it all possible being complicit.

[@danichicago9140]

Organized Building Trades still pay decently and have great benefits. They are only prevalent in high cost of living areas though. Where I live everyone leaves for the South as soon as they can with nice pensions.

[@Vagabond_Etranger]

Trade jobs still pays well, like HVAC, electrician, plumber, welder.

[@furlosifurfox5794]

@@Vagabond_Etranger it REALLY depends... use to work as a welder and only made $16 an hour welding dump trailers together... even "trades" are hurting

[@Alban-ux8jf]

Unpaid mandatory overtime?! That's disgraceful. Utterly disgusting

[@jjteacher7482]

Yeh? Biden/Harris changed it so overtime pay was mandated for more people. A trump Judge blocked it. Good luck all of us under trump/vance.

[@kyleoates6367]

Coming soon to a company near you! Can't tax overtime pay if you don't pay it in the first place.

[@blackfox1665]

And for what to deliver freaking junk mail. The mail system needs to be overhauled somehow and let them compete with ups and fedex but its gov. They suck at competing the only way they can is when they shut down the competition

[@tylernorby4939]

@@blackfox1665 They are limited by law on how they compete. Should get more informed before assuming they don't try to stay competive with private industry. Congress is fucking over the postal service, the postal service wants to be better.

[@stevenotero2627]

Surprised they aren't labeling them 1099 independent contractors . That's what most companies do and have been doing for the past 20-30 years . An its not right .

[@codeintherough]

I was at a networking event and met a nice senior lady. I told her I was going back school for CS. She says "why would I want to do that? You don't want to start a business?" Which was understandable because there were a lot of entrepreneurs at this event? Then I said I might start a software agency. And she gave me a disappointed look. She says" wouldnt you like a government job? The post office is hiring and its stable work with a pension" Bless her heart

[@steelresilience]

Easier said than done. How can you start a business with no background in the subject matter?

[@codeintherough]

Well I'm considering a business doing web development, I'm studying computer science CS​@@steelresilience

[@BossItUp911]

steel is right. there is no reason to hire you. it's competitive enough for me in my field within a company with 18 years of experience, competing against other top companies in our field. all of us would eat a noob goldfish like you alive if you tried to compete.

[@Narbe1938]

My parents grew up with teachers as some of the most successful people in their communities. They were confused when I told them I couldn't afford to be a teacher and quit. Older people don't know how much houses cost and pay hasn't kept up with the times. Also teacher pensions are no longer a thing in North Carolina.

[@onlinealias622]

@@steelresiliencethat’s why he’s going to go to school for it?

[@rhp_6926]

$56K doesn't go far these days.

[@rolback5055]

Harris Biden inflation destroyed the US.

[@OverLord-9m]

Before or after take home?

[@badoishere]

I work security and make 31 thousand a year More like 27 after taxes come out I've been threatened with tasers firearms and Lord knows what else I make $15 an hour

[@ohzee654]

​@@badoishere leave

[@dave3657]

Depends on where you live. Plenty in the Midwest , but nothing on the coasts.

[@npg4life1]

My father bought a home and raised a family of 4 as a mail carrier in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. He retired with a good pension as well.

[@JakePhillips-yr2hq]

Your father couldn’t do that now with the wages we make.

[@ravenblackfeather4612]

This just in: these same kinds of problems are happening in every industry, not just the mail service. I do agree with everything stated, this is just awful

[@thomasrial4444]

The reason why this becomes more media worthy is because there is 59k of them. If 59k are living paycheck to paycheck it effects the economy more than most other industries. Also there’s mail carriers literally everywhere. So it becomes more widespread.

[@big12ref2]

Yep, making "good money" to live in a 900 dollar a month studio, no extra money to lean on

[@ryanshaw4250]

@@thomasrial4444 i think you missed the part about everyone struggling.. Something like 55% of american workers are min wage and cant pay rent. I left america over this, make alot less but can pay all my bills and provide for my family. I am not sure if id ever be able to get back to america at this point. Not sure I want to but i loved my people

[@GoofyFang]

Where did you go to and how did you manage to leave?

[@dbix11]

When they complained about working more than 8 hours a day they lost me. They seem a bit out of touch with the rest of the work force.

[@gmfutube]

Had an uncle started as a mail carrier just after WWII in a small town. He had a wife and 2 kids - Susan & Jr. and a Collie - no joke. The kids played ball and piano, mom stayed home and went to the 'beauty parlor' every week for hair and nails. They were not rich, but not poor and retired really comfortable.

[@BoostedPastime]

WOW

[@MadameRougarouLeia]

maybe we will have our own good ole days too. but i have a great sense of humor.

[@gmfutube]

@@MadameRougarouLeia That is obvious Mme Rougarou, it shows in your name. Louisiana Rougarou? I hope you younger ones do, and that sense of humor is your best treasure - that and a good gumbo pot.

[@MadameRougarouLeia]

@@gmfutube your comment made my day. Mais oui, very louisiana ;) we been eating on this pot of gumbo all week lolo ur psychic! And gmfutube, im old. Im like 50 now. Feels crazy, survived! I send you many well wishes from the acadian soul!!

[@Singlesix6]

Houses back then were 1200 sq.ft., no air conditioning, one tv maybe, and it was black and white, one telephone and it had a dial on it. Sure, I grew up in those days and we were middle to lower-middle class. My mother went to work in '65 when I started 8th grade. She practiced her typing and passed the test and was hired to work in a high school library. Most people these days would not want to live like people did back then - not enough fancy things, like buying a cup of coffee every morning and buying lunch on your lunch break. Did I mention that most kids took lunch to school in a brown bag. The rich kids had a fancy lunch box.

[@cybotron2020]

My brother is a mail carrier, and he can testify to the dismal working conditions at the usps. It's a damn shame the Federal government doesn't take care of the working class.

[@zazasnruntz7505]

You don’t see Indians and Asians complaining in America 🤷‍♂️ maybe you whyts should get more education instead of focusing on race

[@papawx3]

It's not the taxpayers duty to take care of anybody but their own family. You think the federal government has their own money. They don't. They TAX, meaning they take from productive people and give it to unproductive people to buy their votes.

[@ruekurei88]

Federal government doesn't control the USPS, it's an independent government agency. I remember long ago of the Biden administration trying to replace Dejoy, but that was deemed impossible. I think the end goal is to privatise mail carrying and eventually kill off USPS or leave it broken enough that 'competition' can form. If that happens, you can expect all manner of capitalist shenanigans. I'm guessing it'll happen soon enough though, since the USPS has taken a lot of blows over the years and people with money are always looking to make more money and jonesying for it's downfall. A lot of America's government programs were eventually broken down and left vulnerable enough for the top to pick them clean.

[@youtube_revenue6449]

Bc the working class doesn’t depend on daddy government. So they’re doing everything in their power to take that last bit of freedom from the man. That last little whiff. We used to be able to thrive as a middle class. Without the help of the government. But no they want us sick, poor, and reliant. They want us to look upwards to them praying they’ll drop a crumb. But they never do. And they don’t even clean plate they waste it. Throwing the crunbs away right in front of our eyes.

[@bjh1284]

We just elected a president who's a billionaire and he is staffing up with billionaires and millionaires. He will look out for poor federal workers for sure.

[@Pitchithard]

Did that job for 35 years retired 5 years ago . The first 20 years was pretty good . Then after 9 -11 Busch administration started tapping out savings in the pension system. Making massive foolish decisions with Amazon contracts and others. The job turned into a crappy harassment work environment. Couldn’t wait to retire and am glad I did. Feel for the current work force because they don’t know what they are doing.

[@robertswift6101]

ronald reagan stole to balance the budget and never put it back,,,why do you have to fund retirement for 75 years?

[@Warsawce]

Thank you for taking the time to cover this. Y’all did a fantastic job explaining an insane amount of details into 13 mins 🙏 - A letter carrier in Massachusetts.

[@jessicalacasse6205]

easy fix remove retirement... people wont be crying for wage they ll just move to better jobs i dont know what was the point of makin a deal with the devil that in 30 years he gonna give me what he owed me lmfao you most be asleep to be dreamin this much ...

[@orochimarugaymer1565]

Be safe the winters are terrible . A fellow Massachusetts resident

[@andgooable]

Whats your wage? I work for UPS and i make WAY more than I thought i ever would.

[@nolongerblocked6210]

​@@jessicalacasse6205 sucks to suck, grow up

[@patriciaeddy7629]

Our letterman gave me my first puppy. 🐶 This was in 1964 He was a terrific person and genuinely liked throughout the whole neighborhood.

[@watamatafoyu]

Did he have a good life on that job?

[@patriciaeddy7629]

@watamatafoyu Yes, Charlie did. A matter of fact, we all did. And, times we're different back then. Seemed, everyone was middle class, and earned fairly good wages for those days. Vietnam War was raging and kids were dying young, but life in general in the U.S. was better for most.

[@mariawesley7583]

​@patriciaeddy7629 In 1974, we gave one of our dog's 8 puppies to our mail carrier. He would keep us up to date us on her for years!

[@ericligotke3542]

I started almost 20 years ago at 17 an hour after 20 years new carriers are starting at 20 in the city. Poverty wages

[@zdwade]

How much do you make now?

[@VirginiaHarrington-u3k]

Get rid of DeJoy. All of us rely on the Postal Service and he is deliberately destroying it.

[@mvujnovi1]

Perfect Trump appointee. Just like all the other ones he is appointing to basically destroy the department they are supposed to run. Nightmare.

[@Easttowest45]

Trump and Dejoy haven't even been in office a full month yet, and this has been going on longer than that. The Democrats had 4 years to fix this.

[@owensomers8572]

That's all part of a master plan. People are scared to mail their ballots in in my state because the Postal Service has been so mismanaged. Again, all part of a master plan.

[@gbarcalow]

They want to privatize everything! Destroy it, as proof that it doesn't work, then sell the periodized replacement. Again, moving public funds into private hands.

[@PJ-qx5yt]

Louis DeJoy, who used to own UPS, and who was appointed by Trump, is the cause of all this.

[@hatless_spider]

Worked as a letter carrier for 7 years. Loved the job, hated the awful management. It should be noted that they purposefully promote the absolute cream of scum and villainy into management positions. If you have empathy, they don't want you

[@saminaneen]

@hatless_spider, THEY, management, want YOU to actually work, not like the useless, WOKE, Democrap, young employees, that have NO WORK ETHICS, whatsoever. Man up, if YOU can't handle the job, snowflakes, get a REAL JOB, somewhere else.

[@sheepmaysafelygraze8360]

💯 Second this. My hubby is a letter carrier and one of the managers recently was in jail for a DUI. She was not fired for it and came back to work like nothing happened

[@hatless_spider]

@sheepmaysafelygraze8360 that sounds like upper management material

[@SprinkledFox]

​@@sheepmaysafelygraze8360 WTF!

[@mamatrain100]

Integrity held me back. Not just the post office. You aren't promotable in this country if you have too much integrity. Happened to my hubs too. We were flabbergasted.

[@QueenJooseLaMonica]

Ima 55 yr old Desert Storm Navy Vet and i APPLAUD the postal workers!!!! Ppl are always telling us vets thank u for our service.....well i THANK AND SALUTE them for their public service to we the people of USA. Im disabled and on very low fixed income, but im super blessed to manage to pay my mortgage, bills, necessities and groceries every month. But i always say God loves a cheerful giver and there is no excuse not to show appreciation to public servants and essential workers. I put care packages together that include a few grocery items, snacks and necessities to gift to my mail courier at least once a yr, usually around Christmas. Then write a letter of thanks placing it inside the care package. This yr i am adding one random Instacart shopper/driver to my care package list. Cuz they also get crappy treatment. I wish i could help more folks, but at least 2 will feel appreciated.

[@kingpest13]

The rich never have enough. Pathological greed

[@bping777]

For far too many years employers have demanded loyalty from employees, but not returned that same loyalty. There is always someone less qualified than us that is willing to do our jobs for less pay.

[@Perfidion]

The system is working as intended. Keep people desperate and always on the cusp of destitution. Companies don't care about their workers. You're literally a 'human resource'. Once you're depleted, you're discarded and replaced with someone new. And the cycle continues.

[@watamatafoyu]

These corrupt leaders need to be exposed and embarrassed for the frauds and pigs that they are.

[@joeystillpoppin1173]

Not true,they're getting deported.

[@joeystillpoppin1173]

​@@Perfidiondefinitely started when companies stopped 401ks and basic retirement plans. I get sad when I see all the elderly people back to work because they're retired and broke because of this very circle about to get worse.

[@cdavis25232]

#Bigfacts!!!!!

[@tomwicks8953]

Makes me MAD as hell and SAD at the same time! I am so sick 🤢 of higher ups taking and taking and taking!!!!

[@beatgoes9171]

I got fired from the USPS for not wearing my postal bag at all times and for wearing headphones while carrying mail. These things were done by many carriers but they wanted to pick on me because I stood up for myself when I felt I needed to. Getting Fired was the best thing that ever happened to me. I can feel my hands again, my hips and ankles aren't killing me anymore. I can see my family once in a while.

[@TheKxc]

Quit lying lol

[@Bakrain]

I worked as a letter carrier assistant for 8 months, then quit. Forced OT, literally had no schedule. It was simply show up every day at 6:30 to clock in. They would tell me to go home if it was my day off that day, (after driving half an hour to get there) I had 1 day off every 2 weeks. Management was always calling me, 'You're too slow, speed it up'. I never knew what time I'd be going home. The day I quit I showed up to clock in and the manager said, 'The route isn't ready, don't clock in yet. Go sit in the break room for a half hour or so, we'll let you know when to we're ready for you to clock in'. I'm amazed they get anyone to stay.

[@brittgayle467]

This topic deserves more attention!

[@lisapratt166]

Itoterslly is on a congressional hearing. The top brass was under fire from senator Harley. The top is over payed and the system is broken c

[@jameswil15213]

I was a CCA for 2 years and career carrier for 1. Started in 2021 and it’s sad how things have not changed a day since I quit in 2023. Management harasses you constantly, your scared your gonna be robbed anytime you step out that door of the post office. Much respect to my fellow letter carriers and former letter carriers.

[@ARandomDonut]

It really depends on where you are. Here in SD the COL is cheap, and Sioux Falls is safe. 19.33 an hour is enough, especially for a cheapo like me. Our union branch is full of nice people who will fight to get you every dollar you deserve too. Management is also tolerable. Everything about being a carrier depends on your station.

[@destructionman1]

You're*

[@sheepmaysafelygraze8360]

My husband is a CLC and I can confirm everything in this video is 100% TRUE!!! He works so hard at his job, is so friendly to his customers, and yet is treated like absolute GARBAGE by management . He buys the office coffee for the break room out of his own paycheck to boost morale because management can’t even spare $15 to do that for their employees. Its disgraceful.

[@watamatafoyu]

But if they have to spend $15 on that then DeJoy and his cronies will go homeless and everyone will be bankrupt infinitely.

[@BrenQ99]

I believe MAGA would call you a Crybaby, no?

[@maxsavage3998]

@@sheepmaysafelygraze8360 by coffees for employees not entitled ungrateful scumbag management

[@saffrynalleyne2292]

at least your husband has a wife that loves him has your hubby ever met a welder?😂 try smacking iron all day and carrying heavy metal a old welder told me the pay hasn't increased since 1970 for my trade.

[@mysticlegion8088]

Because narcassist traits are rewarded in thos society instead of looked down upon like it use to be.

[@tomrunning357]

Let's be honest being a mailman takes little to no education after high school. But it is a shame to see how they are treated by management. People who step it up and go to a college or trade school and sell their skill deserve the better benefits and retirement options. Having the job security of a mailman is a nice perk too.

[@Yasmine1962]

My brother worked for USPS until he passed away last year at the young age of 60. He often spoke about the working conditions but he was 2 years away from retiring. Working at the Post Office used to be a good job

[@saminaneen]

@Yasmine1962, YOUR brother, like YOU was a LOSER, in life, and HE deserved EVERYTHING he got, for being a good, SLAVE, Cry me a river, Babygirl

[@saminaneen]

@Yasmine1962,,YOUR comments, are irrelevant, NO facts, are in order, You are cautioned about "improper thinking". Accordingly, YOUR comments and channel, will be deleted, for violating Community Guidelines, YOU are dismissed, back to YOUR basement, Babyboy

[@yugotime1598]

​@@saminaneen oh look, a troll.

[@lumpytoad1357]

​@@saminaneen lmfaoooo

[@saminaneen]

@@yugotime1598 Hahahaha! There you are, head still up your butt, struggling to say something negative about this. You wail against corporations because you can never get hired by one of them. In your job application under "experience", you can't even put "McDonald's Fry cook", because is just so much beneath you isn't it? I'm sure you live under your mom's basement and when asked why you won't try to find a job you dream up one BS excuse after another, always so convinced that nobody understands you or appreciates your hidden genius. Yeah, I know your kind, they spend most of their day trying to find a better overpass to live under. Hint: if you ever do go for an interview, it's best not to start out with your usual, "I just want you to know that I hate your fugging guts, you user of the proletariat!" Always remember, showing them the size of your wanker is off-putting.

[@hartlinerealm2015]

Their starting wage should be 27.00 per hour. They are one of the foundations of our society!

[@garygerard4290]

What about cutting deliveries to Saturdays only? It could be handled by teenagers at $12.50 an hour.

[@GnarlsBarkley123]

@@garygerard4290I wouldn’t want a teenager to sort or deliver my mail. Looks easy but it’s easy to make mistakes often.

[@newtrotic]

​@@garygerard4290Of course, this works perfectly in the North, where most teenagers that don't have access to a heated vehicle can freeze to death, solving our population problem. Maybe YOU should go deliver the mail in Alaska for $8/hr.

[@JoesLife89]

@@newtrotic let him cook

[@puggirl415]

@@garygerard4290 This is your neoliberal solution. Make adults lose their jobs to teenagers being exploited for 12.50 an hour? Fu¢k your idea, it's terrible.

[@heyeye81]

My dad worked for the usps for 40 years. He passed this year. I saw the effects first hand. Support your local letter carriers and post office workers. I always give them drinks when it’s hot and a nice gift for Xmas. Much more than the government has done for them and I’m doing the bare minimum

[@jd-py5nm]

any gift suggestions or ideas?

[@michaelgarcia9525]

@@jd-py5nmgift cards or cash if you really want to get them something but honestly just a Christmas card with a thank you goes a long way for me we busy our asses out here and any sense of appreciation is enough

[@heyeye81]

@@jd-py5nmI usually leave an envelope with some cash. It’s up to you what you want to give, I give a good amount since my dad worked usps.

[@heyeye81]

@@jd-py5nm I just give him an envelope with some cash. It’s really up to you.

[@heyeye81]

For those asking about gifts. I usually give an envelope with some cash. It’s really up to you.

[@davidslaser]

try being a rural carrier in Alabama. 100 mile routes having to use your own vehicle etc. I retired from the county board of education here. In the last ten years my pay went up 58 dollars a month. Meanwhile the pay scale for school admins went up almost 60 percent.

[@Hippiecult]

I’m 45 years old, as a kid I used to want to be like my towns postal workers. I seen them as happy people with nice houses. In my teens I learned It was a position that paid good, had a solid pension & didn’t gouge for healthcare…now it’s shocking what the single postal worker we have goes through. She’s laid off every so often so she doesn’t become “full time” then re-hired a few days later. This is awful. I don’t know how it’s not illegal.

[@raquelfantoni2812]

Honestly that could be illegal. I’d encourage her to get a free consultation with a workers rights attorney

[@BubblyOasis]

I'm a former USPS CCA - I didn't make it to the end of my initial contract phase (120 days). I absolutely loved what I was doing, but I was not being treated well and the working conditions were horrifying. The LLV and FFV trucks are too old and not safe. I watched too many trucks at my office get towed back in that had caught on fire. They're 100% right about the no heat, no a/c - slipping on ice, heat stroke, and frostbite are real dangers as well. Not to mention you can't use the restroom most places so you're forced to pee and poop into whatever bottle or container you have. We weren't even given proper uniforms and had to save up money just to buy clothes and shoes that met postal regulations. I had several weeks where I worked 14 days or more in a row with no day off. The regulars at my office were saints with what the conditions had to deal with. I couldn't handle it. There were days I would come home and just openly sob. Three of my regular route coworkers tried to help me keep my spirits up (they were the nicest and toughest ladies I know) but in the end, I couldn't sacrifice my mental health and physical health. This is not a job for anyone with any kind of disability. The post office has become a meat grinder that makes you feel like you'll never be good enough, fast enough, or strong enough to make it to a regular route. This used to be a great job, but it's become a nightmare. I don't let anyone I love apply for the post office. I leave out beverages, snacks, and hot hands packets for all my carriers no matter who they drive for (UPS, FedEx, and Amazon too). It's one of the toughest jobs to have right now. I hope that changes soon, because it shouldn't be this bad.

[@watamatafoyu]

The leaders could easily make USPS a good place to work and make money. The refusing to because they're trying to kill it.

[@BrianWestlakes]

best country in the world though, if you believe the commercials.

[@moveaside2000]

Postal Service is quite literally the only federal agency listed in the Constitution That doesn’t mean you need buildings upon buildings of administration

[@Michael-cx1zi]

Well I wish this report included some factual numbers. As a quasi-governmental agency with collective bargaining the USPS has pay scales that they adhere to so a glimpse at those would’ve been informative. They mentioned a new tier of employment said the be a carriers assistant so I’d be curious to see what the particulars are on that status. When I worked for the USPS there were casuals, T.E.’s (phased out), part time flexibles and regulars at least as far as city carriers and there was the rural carrier division which were on a different type of pay structure.

[@cheekybastard99]

Its not, you're wrong.

[@zackfranklin6912]

​@Michael-cx1zi CCA starts out at 19 dollars and some change, with a 50 cent raise after completing your first 360 days+ the 5 day break. They have to hire you after 2 years now though. It took me 6 years to go regular.

[@Flippy_808]

@@Michael-cx1zi City Carrier Assistant (CCA) is the equivalent of the old TE, except that with a CCA, you are guaranteed a career appointment (within 2 years, I believe) CCA is pre-career, TE was non-career.

[@DailyTheme]

You cant get mail anymore when homeless And without address and mail you get no jobs or tax paperwork Its the cycle Study every keyword angles of mail system of the Roman empire and its collapse Corruption greed and turns in on it self International human rights 1948 and US constitution rights to mail, but we violated if have not permanent address to have a PO box application sent to YOU CAN'T GET OUT Roman empire deprived people from mail rights and permission or permits by class of citizens It comes down to the same bs And this country payed $1 day for unskilled workers FOR 200 yrs and land was like 2-5 dollars an acre without inflation Now everything is a commodity and financiallized another international violation of human rights to housing It's the pyramid scheme before the great depression then WW2 12 generations till Total corruption and greed KJV Great reset 😮 Add a comment...

[@drz400sm5]

Pay phones made money in the 80s like the postal service. Blame technology. Who even uses mail service?

[@rocketime555]

Shoutout to Louis DeJoy and republicans attempt to defund and privatize the mail and… everything. So glad DeJoy got mentioned. The failure to remove him is pathetic.

[@rridderbusch518]

@@Commented_Commenter DeJoy has a *lifetime* appointment put in place during DJT's first term. And who are "they"?

[@Basillio11]

Globalization isn’t a one party agenda.

[@dustinDraig]

@@rridderbusch518 It's a perfect example of the "Rules, norms and loopholes" situation that Jon Stewart talked about. Republicans find loopholes to get what they want done and Democrats find rules that stop them from doing anything.

[@gncl7599]

Democrats did a lot for the postal workers...

[@kasahadragon9499]

It's been a while, so don't quote me exactly, but the board are the ones to remove him. Until there are more Dems on that board the repubs and dejoy will keep doing what they do 😡 I have no idea if the board can be expanded and don't know about the length of time the appointee has but it ain't going to change until the board changes !

[@Swiftit6225]

Carrier here. My wife and I both carry and are about to have our first kid. We don’t have traditional maternity or paternity leave. We have to use our vacation time and sick time to take care of our newborn for the first few months. I don’t know how we’re going to do it.

[@kimberlybegonia2869]

This is unacceptable! You deserve maternity leave and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this❤💜 I don’t think people are aware of this either

[@bartdoo5757]

Get a new union.

[@dustinDraig]

Not to dismiss your situation, but that's pretty much what most of the workers in the US face. The Family Medical Leave Act gives you 12 weeks of leave, but no where does it give you 12 weeks of paid leave. But now that the country is going to be run by out of touch megalomaniacal billionaires, I am sure things will start getting better /s

[@chrisklugh]

Its irresponsible to have children if you have to use your sick days to get by. Not your fault, you were born on a planet with too many people. Supply and Demand. Humans are not worth as much as they used to.

[@P5YCHO1192]

Sorry that your country has let you down. Your government should enact better laws to protect every day workers like you. I hope you guys strike and make so much noise they cannot ignore you

[@aprildawnsunshine4326]

Dejoy was put in to end the postal service and this is how he's doing it; make it as undesirable a job as possible, push out as many workers as possible and raise rates until it's only practical to use a private company like the one he owns.

[@carrieullrich5059]

Truth

[@Perfidion]

This. The capitalist dream is to have everything privately owned and run for profit. Hospitals? Show us the money! Electricity? Show us the money! Education? Show us the money! The Postal Service? Show us the money! These people will not be content until everything is owned and monetized, preferably by them.

[@watamatafoyu]

I've seen the same thing happening to the VA over the years. In this case, the private delivery companies are worming their way into USPS leadership.

[@polydipsiac]

How can we kick him out? What can we do?

[@arcanondrum6543]

..and this "DeJoy", he was appointed Postmaster General by whom? Wasn't it the "man of the people"?

[@LunaPaths]

I give my carrier a Christmas present every year, because I appreciate her. Thank you mail carriers!

[@handle_your_set]

It’s a concerted effort to privatize the USPS.

[@brianronan1905]

Good

[@Cnichal]

@@brianronan1905 you've been saying this everywhere! I am now *positive* you are an ex us-president! Because you clearly hate US Americans! Nobody hates Americans like the bought politicians, who rule over us. Go back into your cave, Bill! 😂

[@nopenope1186]

@@brianronan1905good? You want worse service?

[@tertommy]

UPS uses USPS for "last mile" deliveries. UPS happy with status quo.

[@handle_your_set]

@ I’m not saying that the two shouldn’t coexist. I’m saying that the government purposefully neglects the USPS in a concerted effort with corporations in order to take over every last bit of it. If you look around this country right now, every time private equity gets its hands on something, nothing positive comes of it. The newly acquired assets always get liquidated and nothing replaces them, leaving a giant hole in the system.

[@innocentnemesis3519]

The unpaid mandatory overtime gets me. Like, not only is that obviously bad for the worker, but it also exacerbates unemployment when people are forced to work longer for less hours. People should be able to work their 8 hours and then pass the torch to the next shift!

[@TheAxlSnaks]

as a letter carrier, we do get paid overtime, only during the month of December does it get cut to 1.5x for all worked hours [rather than our penalty rate which is 2x for anything over 10hrs worked in a day]

[@aalmondmilk]

⁠@@TheAxlSnaks makes no sense to me. it is the busiest time of year. they’re making the most money at this time of year and they are giving you less. working likely more overtime (cause you’re understaffed) when it’s supposed to be the month you spend the most time with loved ones. what do they tell you to explain why you get paid less at this time of year?

[@Perfidion]

As someone who isn't in America, the notion of employer mandated overtime, let alone unpaid overtime, is insane to me. Who is going to work compulsory overtime for zero dollars? America seems to hate working people and yearns for the days of indentured servitude. Also, Louis DeJoy looks like a comic book supervillain.

[@kswstkswst]

​@Perfidion we get paid overtime - what they posted is false

[@kswstkswst]

We get paid for any overtime worked. If it's mandatory overtime, blame the holiday season. We get paid for overtime worked.

[@MemeProphet]

Everytime I see one I say "thank you for your service" because I love them and they work hard

[@JoeBlow-fp5ng]

I haven't mailed a letter in literally two decades. Eliminate junk mail and there is insufficient need for mail delivery. The USPS is fine for small package deliveries you are not in a hurry to receive but since they lose money every year that is apparently not cost effective,

[@LadyJay114]

The reason they lose money ever year is because (1)they keep hiring mangers instead of carriers & sorters, and (2)the USPS is the only federal agency required to prepay their employee retirement. Louis DeJoy was specifically brought in to destroy the postal service.

[@channelpink4376]

My dad raised us upper middle class on a USPS salary and just retired. Those opportunities no longer exist.

[@JoeBlow-fp5ng]

Many former decent-paying jobs are no longer necessary and have died out. We don't keep riding horses just to keep stable boys employed. We don't make pumping your own gasoline illegal just to keep gas pump attendants employed.

[@channelpink4376]

@ never said or implied that would be a better outcome but thanks I guess?

[@ashergaines593]

upper middle class is lawyers, doctors, professors, etc... you're saying you had that on one USPS salary and he wasn't selling method on the side lol?

[@channelpink4376]

@ not everyone who works at USPS is a mail carrier or sorter or something lol. My dad was in an upper management position before he retired. Also not sure what you think professors make but my parents definitely made more than that 😂

[@ashergaines593]

Ok, so you lied. When someone says "I make a McDonalds salary", nobody is going to think you're talking about an upper management six figure salary lmao. And now you say "parents" instead of just your dad.

[@likeasoldier777]

My mom was a letter carrier. She passed away in June. I’m so glad she’s not here to suffer through this BS it’s gonna get really bad people,

[@saminaneen]

@likesoldier777, Yo momma, was well paid, for HER government slavery, quit YOUR crying, NOBODY cares, when are YOU moving from her basement, Babyboy?

[@watamatafoyu]

What kind of life did she build on her wage vs what mail carriers can do with theirs today?

[@likeasoldier777]

@ she was never able to own a home. The postal service has never been genuinely fair with their employees. She was a card carrying union member but got repeatedly stiffed. She got passed over for 10 pay steps and not even the union would help her recover her lost wages. She got enough to survive and pay her bills. It’s going to get worse. Their goal is to privatize the postal service.

[@saminaneen]

@@watamatafoyu She was what WE call, a GOVERNMENT LOSER, basically a welfare case, and she drank her way, through life, a REAL ZERO, Babyboy

[@saminaneen]

@@likeasoldier777 YO MOMMA, was a govt. SLAVE, and a LOSER, cry me a river, cry me a song< LOSER

[@oliviao2238]

Another troubling situation we are witnessing across this country that few seem to care about.

[@Freek314]

This is simply not true.... Median wage of over $27.00 an hour. If you spend all your money on BS then you can never have enough money.

[@KazOliverMusic-c6o]

@@Freek314what’s bs….rent?? Kids?? Car maintenance??? If you’re not a carrier you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.

[@drugsdelaney2907]

@@Freek314you live in lala land. Keep parroting that bs, you’ll get popped eventually.

[@SweetSkies478]

@@Freek314wages are severely unadjusted for inflation. Typical gaslighting tactic. Blaming the middle and working class for systemic issues but not the top wealthy🤡🤡

[@neiljohnsen276]

Sadly....a common theme these days. A lot of us used to be middle class...used to be.

[@royharper2003]

well if you're making the same income middle class was maiking 30 years ago then yeah

[@Pretermit_Sound]

I will always Stan for the USPS. One of the coolest organizations in America, and it’s in the constitution! They deserve far, far better ✌🏻🇺🇸

[@joshyount2764]

I wasted 9 years at USPS. The restructuring led to lower pay, the management was writing me up for things I didn't even do, and was constantly being harassed by my direct supervisor. This all led to a day where I almost ended it all. USPS absolutely needs to be held responsible for the unfair treatment of its employees. It's a tough job and I support the workers doing it. However, the management sucks and should absolutely be held accountable for what the are doing and have been doing for years. I'm happy to see the unions finally standing up. Hang in there guys and gals. You are the real postal workers, not the manager jerks sitting in the office all day.

[@nolongerblocked6210]

Never let a job cloud your thinking like that. I'd sooner be homeless, & I have been a few times, than give up on life... it's the only one we get, hang in there ✌🏼

[@joshyount2764]

@nolongerblocked6210 I'm definitely good now. I left the post office a year and a half ago. I work a job I absolutely love in an industry I'm passionate about.

[@vegasprogambler5336]

then why did you stay? right now McDonalds pays $18. your union screwed you, bro.

[@joshyount2764]

@@vegasprogambler5336 I don't work for USPS anymore.

[@joyhaave6151]

Another factor in how the job has degraded over the years is online shopping...so many addresses along a daily route require parking and carrying boxes to the door rather than just rolling on past a mailbox at the curb. Extra minutes add up to extra hours to clear the truck each day, especially around holiday season.

[@KirksCORNER1983]

Move faster. When I worked at ups and delivered I would run to each door then back to the truck. Every usps worker I see walks super slow.

[@JusticeAlways]

​@@KirksCORNER1983 Be curious what UPS pay/benefits are compared to USPS.

[@rodneyp9590]

You’re the problem, and I could work circles around you

[@tissuepaper9962]

​@@KirksCORNER1983 brother, how does that boot taste? stop talking down to your fellow worker and start demanding better from your employer. You shouldn't have to literally run around to avoid being reprimanded.

[@KirksCORNER1983]

@tissuepaper9962 I did because I wanted to get done and get customers their packages I took pride in it. Seems carriers these days take NO pride in their job and it surely does show!.

[@Sir_Loin_of_Steak]

I grew up in an upper class neighborhood. Our mailman was a neighbor. I joined USPS in approximately 2020. I thought the pay was fair, but the workload was unsustainable.

[@nedthemumbler9942]

I worked for a company that had contracts in Missouri and Illinois to rehab and make old post offices handicap accessible. I was blown away by the laziness,entitlement and toxicity that I saw. This was in the late 90’s early 2000. The city that won the worst award in my book was the main post office in St. Louis Mo.The amount of lazy people and the stealing that I witnessed was unbelievable. They would be 6-10 blacks standing around all the time talking all over the place. They had a 50 old white whose job was to keep the blacks happy .

[@wigletron2846]

I dont understand how they even hire anyone at $19 an hour. You can walk into an Amazon warehouse and get hired on the spot making that much.

[@MLaker221]

I was your 19th like, also I resigned dec 1st after 3 months. I'm feeling so justified knowing this video was created then. I had no idea and should of done my research

[@Matanumi]

Middle class is dying

[@bslay6968]

@@Matanumithe middle class has been dead since 2008

[@JoeBlow-fp5ng]

Have you tried working at Amazon? You actually have to do work there

[@timferguson8654]

Amazon makes money the USPS does not

[@dinahcharles6030]

Another factor is that the USPS was overwhelmed by Amazon. They were losing millions delivering Amazon packages

[@randygraham926]

But it helped DeJoy's Amazon stock so it's all good. 😄

[@davidblevins9513]

They set the price for Amazon just like they set the price at the post office

[@3namechangezalowdevry90day7]

Exactly. Competition lowers wages. Plus, the USPS bought employees on credit in the past, with promises of pensions. Now. they're paying out their profits (and then some) to retirees who lived longer than estimated. That's why they've needed bailouts from taxpayers.

[@trixiemcfly8584]

​@@randygraham926Try again, the post office has been delivering Amazon well before DeJoy took the position.

[@ChippyD]

Actually usps has a contract with Amazon. We deliver roughly 30-40% of their packages

[@privatedata665]

I recently worked for the USPS . I quickly figured out no one gives a shit about anything at the Postal Service . 4 months later I decided I did not want to be associated with the post office and it's members and quit . I was there for 4 months and got ZERO training but had to run a local post office . Fuck that ...see ya!

[@ericchristen6297]

I have a story suggestion. I am from Minneapolis Minnesota and took part in trying to get a union contract for the electrical workers of Seagate Technology. We started out with 11 electricians and voted for a contract with the NLRB and one by 100percent majority. Seagate hired lawyers to give union busting meetings and negotiated in bad faith for over 14 months. Stalled out negotiations so long people quit. During our deposition with the NLRB they got caught saying 2 different pay scales and had to give the whole plant raises. Also at the same time Seagate in Ireland was unionizing all of its workers and we were in communication. It was 3 years of hard work that got no where. Would love to tell you more. Thanks.

[@ben10nnery]

Here in Canada our postal workers are on strike too. I honk my horn every time I drive by their picket lines because they deserve to make way more! Hell, we all do

[@aluisious]

You're taking rockets out of Elon's mouth with that kind of talk. You should be ashamed of your greed. "Wah, I want food every day, and to stay dry when it rains."

[@onephatdude]

In the u.s. letter carriers are barred from striking by federal law. Land of the free my arse! 😢

[@glennmartin6492]

Thankyou.

[@snakelord2234]

My fiance is a letter carrier and omfg this video was so needed

[@laurasenko952]

One of the things I've heard other carriers say is this job is really hard on relationships. Mostly due to the crazy schedule and stress. I tend to agree.

[@perrygibson8419]

Bro. I'm convinced they're steeling the money.

[@dead2802]

THAT is becoming common knowledge! More offices closing all the time where I live. Costs more to send even a tiny item then the overpriced item costs itself! And our carriers changing because of forced 15 damned hour days! Another disease spread by greed and garbage. Sure deals were made w these head postmasters by the same ones intent on ruining the country!

[@scotts2027]

Ban the mailing of junk mail, reduce delivery’s to as needed like UPS and FedEx. Reduce USPS workforce by 50%. Increase pay to what UPS makes.

[@Mark_5150]

This isn't unique to the post office, they just have a Union that brings attention to the situation.

[@amybabbitt4198]

Thank you more perfect union for your work and reporting.

[@metrisliving696]

As a former letter carrier of over 10 years, I came in when you could be hired on as a career employee. The CCA was the beginning of the end. The PO is now wondering why theft is so high, it’s the majority of CCA’s. I left the PO and went to Dept of HS. I doubled my PO money in 6 years with DHS and I don’t have supervisors hiding in shrubs watching me. Best move I ever made! I am retiring in 7 months. Funny thing is, is that I have never been called in to the supervisors office in the 10 years I’ve been there. When I was a shop steward at the PO I was in the office every other week. What a joke.

[@Cabrazzi]

My mother was a mail carrier in New Jersey. The people on her route gave her so much money every year in Christmas cards. It essentially paid for our gifts every year for many years.

[@BrooklynDre]

This was amazing! I loved this. Thank you for attending the branch 41 rally and documenting our fight. ✊🏿

[@robbobstone]

Not only are us mail carriers being worked like crazy, but supervisors are constantly being yelled at for unreal expectations. Then their anger becomes our anger and it just keeps going. It's sad, but i do love my job and hope it gets better

[@Poeponu]

Supervisors are part of the problem! You all just keep the turds rolling down hill and kiss ass to upper management while doing their dirty work.

[@michaelmiller9870]

Thank You MPU! This really needs talked about. I just quit the USPS last spring, it was a nightmare job. I was a RCA, who lost money instead of making money, after two years of employment. The management are the problem! It starts at the top with LeJoy, and trickles down to all levels of management. Everyone thinks your making bank because most of us grew up hearing how well the job pays. That’s not the case at all, and the one guy is correct, they will try to screw you any chance they get. You have to keep track of every minute you work. I got hurt and they just railroaded me until I quit. I am completely amazed they haven’t just went on strike nationwide.

[@dustinbjohnson]

Thank you for this video!! Enough is enough!!!

[@horristhegreat1186]

Now let’s not forget. Mngmt received a hefty raise of over 10%. N our absent National Union President Renfro gave himself a $50,000 a year raise. N our Union dues increased. As will our health benefit premiums.

[@northuniverse]

Workers of the world unite

[@TheKlecker1]

non bankers of the world unite=against the bankers

[@NeighborhoodOfBlue]

We have nothing to lose but our chains!

[@northuniverse]

@@NeighborhoodOfBlue and a world to win

[@panjak323]

Little too late lol

[@TheKlecker1]

@@NeighborhoodOfBlue time to revolt?

[@jlpsuroeste]

My niece quit her job as a letter carrier because of the toxic work environment.

[@aalmondmilk]

so did my friend. i worked with fedex for a year and it is not better there either

[@watamatafoyu]

​@@aalmondmilkMy guess is these cronies at USPS are using the terrible conditions at other delivery companies as an excuse to continue degrading their workers.

[@abhietala6559]

Is it possible they are destroying the post office in order to privatize it. Privatizing has been the talk for years.

[@Mackerdaymia]

My dad worked a job that required minimal qualifications and was able to buy a house and support a family of 6. My mother only worked retail over xmas to get some extra money for presents. Now both me and my wife are university educated and work professional jobs but live month to month, clinging to the dream that an affordable house might just appear for us.

[@volvoplz9209]

There really should be an investigation into the way this contract was negotiated. Over 500 days to come out with a 1.3% raise? This is a man who makes almost $300,000 a year and was just given a raise higher than the starting salary of a carrier. He lied over and over to carriers about what it would contain. He got everyone's hopes up. People should be furious. The public needs to know what a piece of garbage Renfroe is.

[@willaerley7140]

It’s a sad state of affairs. Standing outside and picketing what a piece of 💩 your union president is. How can the public support that? He’s your guy and you elected him.

[@tissuepaper9962]

​@@willaerley7140 anti-labor troll, begone.

[@willaerley7140]

@@tissuepaper9962 Not at all. Renfroe is worthless. What’s ridiculous is that he can’t be fired or impeached. It’s also within the rules to drag negotiations out almost 2 years. NALC bylaws need to be changed. Seriously, most of carriers anger is over Renfroe.

[@mr_unsane]

The NALC is the issue, they are terrible always have been.

[@maxpotiontcg]

Solidarity with US postal workers! ✊🏻

[@Freek314]

This is simply not true.... Median wage of over $27.00 an hour. If you spend all your money on BS then you can never have enough money.

[@Lula2979]

Absolutely! We stand with the postal workers!

[@papawx3]

Say that the next time you are in line at your local food pantry. Your unions put you there.

[@brianfl33916]

I have a relative who worked for the post office as a letter carrier. He bought a house and his wife stayed home to raise 9 children. Those days are long gone. That being said postal wages are a lot like modern day social security. The ones currently working are basically paying for pensions for the older workers while younger ones probably won’t see a pension.

[@papawx3]

It's called: Fiat currency and debasement. Pick any job that pays by the hour or fixed salary and they all have one thing in common: They are losing purchasing power of their wages because the dollars they are being paid in is losing value. It's the Federal Reserve System that is doing this to all of us.

[@johnrose3169]

After WWII, my grandfather worked for the post office on the mail trains out of Omaha, Ne. when much of mail was carried on the railroads. The mail trains disappeared in the late '60's and he retired working in the downtown Omaha post office. The post office is one of the oldest institutions in the history of our country and it provides a vital service to all corners of our country whether urban or rural. I have nothing but respect for the postal workers of today. They deserve a living wage for all that they do.

[@rickyblackburn-n9e]

Branch 78, out of Columbus, Ohio here, retired since '11. I'm aghast to see this video. It got pretty rough at times during my twenty-seven years on the job, but this is shameful. I remember when they rolled out the scanners and promised they were never going to be used in a disciplinary fashion. I guess that didn't pan out well. Stay strong. Jesus only!

[@KazOliverMusic-c6o]

Columbus stand up!! ✊🏾 upper Arlington carrier here

[@chilloften]

When I was young we had the same older black mailman in our neighborhood for years upon years. We LOVED him. He carried a leather mail bag.

[@JustGreggin]

Amen. Im a letter carrier. We ARE NOT soldiers nor slaves. We are federal employees.

[@nolibtard6023]

I object on that your not slaves nor soldiers.

[@rdallas81]

Titles, titles. Just another slave to the struggle. If it's not financial, it's social, if not social, it's mental, or physical. Most people are a single pay check from being broke and on the street. Not the politicians tho! That should say something to every American- even Canadian. But somehow, there is money for drugs, alcohol, and doctors co pays-

[@papawx3]

And this taxpayer is tired of bailing out your pension every few years. Find an honest job that doesn't steal from people.

[@JustGreggin]

@papawx3 you're not bailing out our pension, you're bailing out managemnent mishandling of their own budget. They just blame it on us. USPS spent $11B in bonds last year. Yet they claim that their $9B deficit is why they can't pay us more. Yet they gave management a 20% increase.

[@nolibtard6023]

@@papawx3 would you prefer picking your letters and packages from their places of origin?

[@bigjay3165]

Not to mention they work you about 120 hours a week with no breaks

[@TheKxc]

Quit lying