NEW 2024 TIMECUTTER vs 2020 TimeCutter 50" - Best Zero Turn Lawn Mower Comparison

[@caputoskubota337]

I drove 60 miles to buy a new Titan my ride from these guys (Ocala location). I had local dealers but these guys have a passion for what they do. Well worth the drive. If anyone is on the fence about these Toro machines they are great go get one. If you are in the area give these guys a chance to earn your business. Sounds like i work for them I dont im just a very impressed customer.

[@mainstreetmower]

That's so nice of you man, really appreciate it!

[@shanedoucet8291]

I have a 2024 time cutter max with about 15hrs on it. It has already melted and froze up 1 throttle cable. Ordered a new one from toro. Installed it yesterday. After 2hrs of mowing it is melting . The choke cable has melted as well. Any suggestions? I’m thinking of adding some kind of plate over the muffler. The melting is happening right where the cable is attached with clamp at the motor

[@Crown.A]

Just picked up a 2024 and this video was highly informative and useful. Thank you!

[@mainstreetmower]

I'm glad it was helpful. Enjoy your new mower 🙂

[@fieldfilmz]

Thanks for this comparison. I bought a 54" havoc edition Max about a month ago and recently posted a few videos about it. Totally agree with a lot of your points. The features they removed on the new ones (speed mode, AL forks, etc) really aren't used once you're used to driving it. I bought mine because of the 5" height and 5 gal gas tank. Did not know that the old one didn't have a removable deck plate and am so glad I got one that did. So much easier to clean and repair. I do wish the new one had a way to view the gas level, but it looks like the old one would have been hard to view anyways and gone un-used. Plus, my Troy-Bilt lawn tractor wasn't much easier to view the gas level, though at least I was able to somewhat check the gas level while on the mower.

[@thyubernoob]

I'm here from Al's channel, very nice of Chip to go and help Al out..

[@mainstreetmower]

Hey there, thanks for checking us out. Hope you like the videos on here too 🙂

[@MrJvincent4]

I dont know about everyone else, but I definitely use the gas gauge on my Timecutter 😂

[@mainstreetmower]

That's good to know.

[@mikeyoung7022]

Today I went to buy a Ferris because I watched a previous video you posted about the difference between the Toro and Ferris competing models. I wound up buying the Toro for two reasons. I drove the Toro first felt pretty good and comfortable a little tight in the turns plenty of room and power. I then jumped on the Ferris and the first thing that happened was a big puff of smoke from the Briggs. I drove it the same distance and it was a rougher ride but turned a little better felt I had a little more control. The Ferris had a 42 inch deck which was smaller than the Toro 50” but it was not as comfortable as the Toro. It wasn’t about the money just the fact the Toro was much more roomer and comfortable and I trust the Kawasaki engine more than the Briggs.

[@mainstreetmower]

That's awesome. Enjoy your new mower 🙂

[@joeking433]

Briggs doesn't have a very good reputation. I have a 24hp Kohler on my 50" Timecutter and it's been superb in every way for the last 3 years!

[@pastorldljr]

"A Cut Above the Rest: 2024 Tmecutter 50'" I recently purchased the 2024 Tmecutter 50" Tuesday of this week, and couldn't be happier with my decision. This residential lawnmower is a powerhouse that exceeds expectations. The comfortable gaming-style seat and sturdy steel deck make mowing a breeze. The 23 HP Kawasaki engine provides ample power, outperforming other popular brands like Kohler, Briggs, or Toro in my opinion. While it's not a commercial-grade mower, it's definitely built to last. If you're in the market for a high-performance residential lawnmower, I highly recommend taking the Tmecutter 50" for a spin. You won't be disappointed!

[@Guitarzan8]

Thanks for helping Al !

[@mainstreetmower]

Always a pleasure 🙂

[@PurpleCollarLife]

Interesting comparison. Some totally different views on a few of the points than I mentioned in my recent comparison. For example - I use that “fuel indicator” on my 2020 machine all the time. AND I love those new tires on the back. Thanks for the differences of opinion. It’s always interesting to see how people view features/benefits different based on their experiences/use.

[@mainstreetmower]

Agreed, we’ll watch yours, thanks for the feedback!

[@princemdirfan5329]

M&D lawn care deserves new bigger mower... We hope you guys can sponsor them.

[@52ponybike]

I bought a new Toro SS5000 50" zero turn about 12 years ago. The Kawasaki engine is by far the best engine ever and the best feature and still runs like a top w/no smoke. The VERY WORST feature is the POS deck! It's total pressed steel junk. I suppose it'd be OK for some town guy with a small lawn. 50" deck actually cuts about 46-48". It takes me 3.5-5 hours to mow my lawn nonstop. Another thing about the worthless deck is it constantly plugged up, and the blades aren't staggered enough as there is always an about 1-2" wide strip of uncut grass between the LH and center blade, no matter how slow I go. Ugh! Last year, I bought a new Husqvarna 54" zero turn with the exact same bullet proof Kawasaki engine. THAT was the main reason for buying it. The Toro 12 years ago cost $3100, the most I'd ever paid for a mower. The Husky was $2895, also with a pressed steel deck but has thinner steel blades that wear out quickly. The Husky's gas tank has no level view, ugh. Two wrongs don't make a right. I guess I should have gotten a loan and bought a commercial grade manufactured deck mower for more than triple or quadruple the price. I will NOT be buying any Toro mower ever again... nor a Husky. One more thing, both brands have ultra convenient (spigots?) to hook up a garden hose to clean the decks. BUT no matter how long you run the water, it will not clean out the 'shelf' along the front. That must be done by hand, ugh. So, you can keep your ugh, Florida mowers made 70 miles away in Minnesota. Strong PASS for me. Maybe a Kubota or even a Grasshopper next time but for now I'll just suffer.

[@edgarortiz6620]

I recently purchased the Timecutter MAX 54" model and discovered that the Motion-Control Levers aren't aligned properly. No matter how I adjust the handles or swap them around, they remain uneven. I don't know if this is normal on the MAX. I would love it if you could make a video on how to set properly the Timecutter MAX, handles, speed, etc... By the way, thanks a lot for your videos, I learn a lot thanks to you.

[@mainstreetmower]

I think i might be able to help. Check out this video we did for the older models that might work for this too. Let us know if you get to test it. Thank you. Here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ-nZqypiMeIpLs

[@PhantomLover007]

I work for a Mom and Pop hardware store that sells Toro/Ferris/Husqvarna/Wright/walker, and when this new max series for the Toros came in, I was like what the bleep. It reminded me too much of the cub cadets/craftsman mowers. I am not a fan of how the fuel tank filler is. You can’t even tell how much fuel you have in the machine, let alone figuring out where to stop it at. The filler kept should’ve been on top like everything else, not on the side. The next thing is the PTO switch. Someone is bound to think it’s going to be a light switch and hurt someone. It should’ve just been the standard push/pull switch like before, not a rocker switch. i’m a bit questionable on the Steering handle arms it may be nice to have multi point positioning for comfort, but I think there’s going to be problems with people snapping them off

[@patriciajoseph7713]

Chip thanks for helping out Al Bladze with the most difficult yard ever. Good job there and wonderful store.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you. It was a pleasure assisting Al.

[@brucelewis1017]

If yall fellers wasn't so far from me id come see yall guys

[@mainstreetmower]

Sorry about that sir. But if you're ever in the area, we would be more than happy to help 🙂

[@williegeorge905]

I put a hour meter on my 2024 TC MAX For $17 best mower

[@mainstreetmower]

Awesome.

[@QPerry-oe7rc]

I have about 90 hrs on my 50-inch timecutter with my ride. It's still under warranty, and I've got a problem with the right side hydro trans. The shop replaced the left side about a year and a half ago. Has anyone heard of this issue before? I have an acre of land, and the right side always seems to go out at the very last bit of cutting.

[@rickyclark9052]

Time Cutter vs TC max vs Titan vs Titan Max PLEASE.

[@lionelhutto3328]

One thing wasn’t mentioned is the 23 has a top loaded 3 gallon tank while the 24 comes with a side loaded 5 gallon tank. Big deal to me, thanks again.

[@jakespeckman1]

What about 42" or 38" decks ... I love my '21 42" as it fit past most gates and works for us home+ owners

[@mainstreetmower]

The new timecutter Max is available in 50, 54 and 60”

[@tractorgt]

As someone who mows 75 lawns a week and uses exmark professional equipment, I am constantly looking at these as a backup for when the inevitable happens and my 60 in Lazer Z goes in the shop. You mention that "you've had landscapers use them" and I'm curious as to why a mower costing this much wouldn't be recommended for my accounts? Is it because it just can't handle being run for 6 hours a day? I don't do "commercial" accounts, just reg homes so I'm curious as to if this could get the jobs done in a pinch while I wait 3-4 weeks every time for the fix it shop to get my main mower back. 🤷

[@paulfinnegan8757]

Whats better time cutter or titain

[@mainstreetmower]

Really depends on your usage.

[@bernardcaillouet5565]

I own a 2023 50 inch Timecutter and I use the gas gauge window. Can you convince Toro to give us a rubber chute cover like on the Titan?

[@hypervigilance1465]

I have a 2023 50 inch timecutter i want the electric one now.

[@joeking433]

I'm not sure electric zero turns are quite there yet. The electric Timecutter is only 42" and will cut 1.6 acres on a charge and costs $6500.

[@brucemaessen2959]

I have one problem with my 2023 54 myride is when I want to turn right the right side hydro doesn't do anything. I guess nascar built mine.

[@mainstreetmower]

We have seen a few cases of those symptoms exactly. We have been able to warranty a new right side hydro, be sure to take to your dealer before your warranty expires (3 yr warranty)

[@lanesteele240]

Is the unit they sell in the big box stores the same unit sold in the store

[@williamwolfe3277]

I just got a 23 model 54 inch, 4,000$ you’d think it would have an hour meter!

[@harryerhart5978]

Ok l will let you know on Monday 😊

[@ceciliaarleneperalta-vinlu3292]

I saw you on al bladez latest video 😊

[@mainstreetmower]

Hey there

[@Bob_Adkins]

I have the 2024 54". and the back tires have no traction. Even when I turn slowly in gently, the rough tires spin and take a divot out of my grass. BAD DESIGN!

[@BNA90]

Are they going to fix the melting throttle cable?

[@joeking433]

What year models does that occur?

[@BNA90]

@@joeking433 the new ones. 2024

[@BNA90]

They run the throttle cable too close to the exhaust and it melts the black plastic on the outside and it jams up the throttle.

[@shanedoucet8291]

I have 12 hrs of use on my 2024 time cutter max 50” throttle cable melted and froze up. Installed a new cable and it melted after 2 hrs of use. The choke cable had also melted

[@dobe1124]

Neither has an hour meter and they took the armrests off the new one.........both should be standard on a machine of this price point.

[@erichollister5753]

Tires are too aggressive ! leaves torn up spots when turning front axel dose not pivot when going around trees or irregular grade things get (interesting) hrs meter and fuel gauge sorely missed

[@brucelewis1017]

Yall wouldn't pick my mower up like that yall would get hurt trying to pick it up like that

[@mainstreetmower]

ok

[@turtlethefam7121]

I don't got blower to blow off mower I can't afford one. I see all the stuff al blades and I could use one of the hedge trimmers and chainsaw like he uses

[@leechburglights]

Get a cheap leaf blower off of Market Place. I use an electric one I got at a garage sale for $25.

[@mikeking1870]

Looks like they copied cub cadets xt1 on alot of there upgrades. Less for more

[@BillChase-qm8ud]

needs arm rests

[@turnerturntupturners2st707]

I bought a brand new Toro TimeCutter in 2022 worst mower ever

[@ericteal7118]

Toro has never been my favorite brand to start with. When I first began to see their name on yard equipment, I bought a push mower . This was years ago , AND , if they make weed eaters ,( I believe they do ), I bought one of those as well , possibly two. Everything I bought from that brand performed mediocre at best.. it just never did impress me at all. So I can’t see spending this kind of money on a zero turn , from a company that let me down in their early days. Early days for any business should be as close to flawless as possible to build the reputation.. they didn’t . I’m in the market for a zero turn to , right now ! Cash money ! I just have to find something worth the money these companies are asking for .

[@chiphawthorne4248]

Dang sorry I hear this. Yes, in the past, Toro has made string trimmers, and they were not that good. It was something they had to carry to sell Mowers at the big box stores , so they had them made through a third-party . But their mowers they do make and they are fantastic. They’ve been making Mowers for over 100 years. Every blade of PGA golf course grass is cut with a Toro. Disney World is cut with a Toro. It is unfortunate that your only Toro experience is from their least expensive entry level product. If you are serious about buying a good Zero Turn Toro in my opinion is the best option. They have the best dealer network, best customer service, fastest parts turnaround, best quality of cut and incredible warranties. It would be worth your time to good by a real toro dealer and see for yourself self. If your in Florida stop by MainStreetMower.

[@daniellang6112]

I just got my ol' Betsy a year ago! 25 measly hours on it. Liking the new one. No electronic brake! Better tires,turf tires are dangerous on slopes. Never used gas gauge. Love the 5 gallon tank,just in case. Same awesome engine,removable foot floor pan. My Betsy is damn near like new,what to do?

[@cindyglass5827]

Thank-you for all of your Hard work / Supporting Al ! Much Appreciated : )

[@mainstreetmower]

Always a pleasure 🙂

[@eloyrobles5375]

Bought a brand new time cutter total 2024 max when I’m cutting grass makes a lot of dust is that supposed to happen or somethings going on

[@Mason-RRC]

Great video! It appears that Toro is discontinuing the non-max Timecutter. They are heavily discounting them everywhere. I sure wish they will come out with a 42 inch deck of the max.

[@rikiconcepcion471]

Thank you very much for your videos! I find them very interesting, a question that I would appreciate if you answered, what is the difference between the Ak30 and the AK30S? No matter how much I search on Google, I can't find an answer. Thank you so much.

[@TomSpielmaker]

Great comparison!!! You have me sold on getting the 2024 model. One question: Do you know why the Blade Tip Speed for the TimeCutter Max 50 slowed down from the 2023 model that was 18,330 ft/min to the new 2024 model at 17,600 ft/min of which it has the same Kawasaki motor?

[@jdp5704]

Great video boys. I just picked up a 2024 Max "Havoc" 54" and while waiting for delivery tomorrow watching some vids. I did try a 2023 as well and really enjoyed the low stance of it. But for a few bucks more the 2024 seemed like the better beast overall. I also compared to John Deere 500s, Hustlers and Spartans. For my money the Toro took the cake. I got to test these all on some steep hills as well... even the older smaller Timecutter did fine. Actually I enjoyed it more for being lower and having a low center of gravity versus some of the larger mowers.

[@mhess427]

Thanks for explaining the features and differences. I tried to chat with Toro, Customer Service online and they couldn’t even tell me the difference.

[@hypervigilance1465]

but i do love my 50 inch timecutter only thing i do not like is the tires go flat everytime.

[@marlenehod]

Al B said to check you out, so I am. Great video.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you🙂

[@TheAaronReynolds]

Love it! You convinced me to buy the 2024 today! I’m in the Nashville area. When should dealers start seeing them coming in? They don’t have it in stock here yet.

[@mainstreetmower]

Any day now, put the pressure on your dealer!

[@joeking433]

I have a 2020 50" Timecutter and it's been great! I had a John Deere that was twice as expensive before I got the Toro and it lasted 3 years before the motor blew. This Timecutter has been flawless! Starts the first time even in the spring after sitting all winter! The Kohler 24hp motor runs like a top, doesn't use oil, the deck is really easy to adjust on the fly, it's easy to take the deck off, it's low to the ground so you can bend over and pick up things on the ground, and it's easy to see how much gas you have. I have no complaints!

[@mainstreetmower]

That's awesome. We're glad your new Timecutter is treating you right. Thank you for sharing.

[@williamnewsome5169]

I have a 2015 Toro Timecutter MX5050 model 74770 with 625 hours and have never had a problem that I would not trade for either of these new mowers. My MX5050 has the serviceable Hydro Gear XT-2800 transmission (very smooth and free of problems) that I work very hard pulling my lawn cart full of mulch (12 - 2.5 c/f bags) weighted aerators and my 25 gallon Brinley Hardy tank sprayer when not mowing my one acre lawn. Additionally, my MX5050 came with that powerful, silky-smooth, 24 hp, and totally trouble-free Kohler 7000 series KT735 engine that uses absolutely zero oil (Mobil1 10-30 synthetic). The cut I get with my Toro bagger is phenomenal! It is always crisp, totally even and flat looking as if professionally cut (even when mowing at 4") and never boggs or labors even when grass gets much taller than it should. The seat that came with it is highly padded, high- back, and with arm rests, which I dearly love, especially when getting on or off the mower. The automatic choke on the engine is very nice, as is the electrically activated parking brakes that are set when lap bars are spread outward. No, they do not make them like they used to - will hang on to my MX5050, thank you! Note: I am a stickler for doing maintenance often before it is due and having sharp blades

[@mainstreetmower]

That's great. Love to see how well you care for your mower. I am sure it will last you a long time

[@williamnewsome5169]

@mainstreetmower Thanks. For clarification, I did not want to appear to disparage newer mowers on the market. I'm sure each Toro model you highlighted is a wonderful machine and will make many people proud owners. It is so satisfying to climb off your mower and see a manicured lawn! Cheers...

[@williamnewsome5169]

@@mainstreetmower My Maintenance - Oil changes: Kohler 7000 KT735 - every 25 hours Mobil 1 10w 30 full synthetic w/Kohler branded filter change; Hydro Gear ZT-2800 - oil change e every 100 hours Mobil 1 15w 50 full synthetic w/ Hydro Gear branded oil filters; air filter replacement every 50 hours w/ Kohler branded air filter - clean and oil pre-filter every 12.5 hours; change fuel filter every 50 hours with Kohler branded filter; check and adjust tire pressure every 25 hours (usually during oil change); grease front wheels every 25 hours (usually during oil change); replace blades with freshly sharpened and balanced blades every 25 hours or when edge feels dull; check belts (drive and deck) every 25 hours when oil is changed and replace with Toro branded belts if "rounded" or glazed; check idler pulleys and spindles for binding or any lateral free-play every 50 hours; adjust Kohler series 7000 KT750 valves every 400 hours (note: when checked, they were still perfectly set - recheck at 500 hours and still within specs.; replace spark plugs at 200 hours; after each use, mower is blown off using my leaf blower - I never use water to clean mower due to ability to get into pivot points and electrical connections that can potentially cause problems down the road and lastly, I keep my Toro MX5050 in my mower shed and never leave it out. By now everyone must think I am a mower nut - have been called much worse (wink)! Cheers...

[@joeking433]

Yeah, I have that same Kohler 24hp engine on my MX5000 and it's been amazing! Starts first time every time even after sitting all winter and runs smooth as silk without using any oil! That's the engine you want for your zero turn!

[@harryerhart5978]

Great new design Toro is a great mower anybody want to buy a Scag Tiger Cat 2 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@mainstreetmower]

We’ll trade it Harry!

[@Dale37]

No hour meter is silly and almost a deal breaker. Luckily, you can add one for cheap. I don't have any Toro experience. They look like nice mowers.

[@joeking433]

Is it hard to install?

[@Dale37]

@joeking433 Finding a place to mount the display is the hardest part. Instructions are pretty straight forward on the wiring.

[@travisherk25]

@@Dale37There is a spot for the hour meter on the control panel. You can feel it underneath the decal that is around the controls

[@Rayj576]

Great Video.. Good info!

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you 🙂

[@georgethompson9162]

I have the older model and LOVE IT but the new one does look sweet. Thinking about updating. My question is "Does the bagger system for the older model fit the newer MAX?"

[@Press1for]

Toro and Spartan sitting in a tree= Hello "This is the front yard"........ howls 42i nches of Floritam fury.....

[@turtlethefam7121]

I like my toro timecutter 50 I got it February 2023 all though I don't like that tires keep going flat especially the spindle tires.

[@lionelhutto3328]

Great video, they’re putting my 2024 timecutter 50” together now. I can’t wait!

[@deatondavid]

What is the forward cut speed

[@bizzibam3890]

Do they have a new model for the 34 in to ?

[@mainstreetmower]

Same frame, new engine, it now features a 22-hp Briggs V-twin, and it has great sound cdn.thetorocompany.com/api/assetstorage/623_2f9bfc40-1717-4627-a0dd-ab6092fe9823

[@DG-sf9ei]

As long as its Toro its overpriced trash

[@chiphawthorne4248]

Compared to what?

[@Jay_Hall]

Like everything else today?

[@mikem4490]

What would you suggest instead?

[@ciaraclarke1488]

Thanks for helping Al out chip

[@mainstreetmower]

Absolutely, our pleasure. 🙂