CNC VTL / Retainer Ring / Rough and finish turning (Pierścień ustalający, tokarka karuzelowa cnc)

Retainer Ring. Pierścień ustalający

[@terryrack2534]

the perfect amount of time spent on each step and no mind numbing music. thank you..

[@nizanhorsefield]

The whistling even went well with the video 😂

[@Texlex61]

On March 20, 1982, at the age of 20, I was a new machinist (2 months) operating a manual 36" Bullard VTL, after having operated a large manual hydraulic drill press for the previous year+. I worked for a small company that remanufactured wellhead equipment, but we also made new wellhead articles from forgings. That day, I was making my second pass (maybe 0.020" depth) at cutting threads (8/inch API) in the bore of a 7 1/16th" 15,000 lb.-rated wellhead flange, that I had already machined from a near-net-finish forging on the back side, when something caused a chip in the cutting edge of the threading tool (maybe hit an inclusion and chipped?). The shavings went from forming a harmless ribbon ball in the center to a jagged, deformed shaving that shot straight out between the jaws and slapped me harmlessly in the hip. Because it was a manual machine and the threading tool was traversing down toward the table in the vertical turret at 1/8" per revolution, I stepped back and grabbed the lever to disconnect the traverse and keep that vertical turret from engaging violently with the spinning table. Unfortunately, the shaving string extended farther out and, luckily dropped lower than my hip (or waist or thigh) and snagged my pants behind my left knee and cut through my peroneal nerve, which operates the muscles opposite the calf and provides feeling in the skin on the top of the foot out to the toes and up the lateral side of the shin. I went by ambulance to a nearby small hospital, where the doctors started discussing a surgery, but my brother-in-law arranged for me to be transferred to Hermann Hospital (now Memorial Hermann), in Houston's Medical Center. That evening, I underwent surgery to repair the cut and reattach the nerve. The neuro surgeon was Dr. Michael Minor. The orthopedic surgeon was Dr. James "Red" Duke, a well known Houston E.R. surgeon. Dr. Duke was in the E.R. as a Resident Surgeon on 11/22/1963, with Kennedy and Texas Governor Connally (generally credited with saved Connally's life). In subsequent years, he was frequently called on to give medical commentary to Houston media. Later, in 1987-88, a TV show, based on Dr. Duke, called "Buck James" and starring Dennis Weaver, ran for 2 seasons. It was about a West Texas doctor working in a NYC hospital. My brother-in-law was able to get me to Dr. Duke because he had previously been a paramedic in Houston's Fifth Ward for over 8 years and had brought many E.R. patients to Dr. Duke and that relationship got me on Dr. Duke's agenda that evening. It took about 18 months, but I did regain a bit of function from the shin muscles and have since only had a modest limp, not usually noticeable to others unless I'm tired or stumble. I saw Dr. Duke a handful of times after my treatment ended. He had an apartment in the hospital and I ran into him there several times when I was there. A couple of those times was when my daughter was there to give birth to one of her 4 children. A couple of those times, I reintroduced myself to him and gave him the 15-second version of our initial meeting and he said he remembered me (probably primarily remembered my brother-in-law). The last time I saw him was in 2014, when he was ~86 years old and sitting alone at a table in a Thai restaurant in Houston’s Rice University Village. As I was leaving, I reintroduced myself to him and gave the 15-second version of our initial meeting and he, again, said he remembered me. I noticed he was reading book published in 2014 and entitled “The Bonobo and the Atheist: In Search of Humanism Among the Primates.” He said it was very interesting and very thought-provoking, which I found interesting, coming from a man that had a divinity degree from a Baptist college. He struck me as a wise and sober man with a gentle and contemplative mind. I wish that I had stayed longer to chat about the book and what he took from it, but I was reluctant to intrude any further on his privacy. He died less than a year later, in 2015. If you read to the end and enjoyed it, check back with me, if you want to read more of my stories.

[@Mike44460]

Brings back memories, I can smell the coolant and hot chips.

[@1175ld]

For me too. We had a 120” King where I worked. Used to really setting it up and running it.

[@1175ld]

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[@Half-People]

I can still hear the old man yelling because we can't cut metal any faster.

[@jimsperlakis5634]

Me too, And the hot chip that gets your lip !

[@michaeltyre38]

I was a machinist with Michelin for 11 yrs after 4 in the Navy, I operated various machines but mostly the VTL’s , made tons of chips. Spent the next 20 yrs in maintenance at the tire mill.

[@TheMwillis911]

There is a job by me hiring this for 42$ hour ! Do i need school for this or can i learn on the job ?

[@mp5kfisher241]

Was a machinist for over 20 years, had to medically retire because of spinal injuries, i miss it so much! I was mostly a turning center and VTL/VTC operator, the only thing i don’t miss is the lifting and straining.

[@lascachadasdechepeabelelca3176]

I think the same , I miss turning and threading but no the lifting and straining .

[@TheMwillis911]

There is a job hiring near me for good money doing this can i learn this on jobsite ?

[@davemanley8700]

I ran a cnc Bullard with a 56" table and a Fanuc control for 7 years and made all sorts of things from a controllable pitch propeller hub to pulleys for arresting cables on air craft carriers to water jet parts. It was the best and most interesting 7 years in my 45 years as a machinist / tool maker.

[@AlexC-tc7em]

as a civil engineer with mutiple construction/machinery related interest, this really soothes me

[@mrt6399]

Love it, as a Machinist my self I appreciate your work

[@ChrisMaj]

Thanks man

[@charliemyres5450]

What a superb machine and an equally good movie to go with it!

[@ronalddamp2745]

Even now at 72 yrsold i still use a 72 inch webster n bennett machining large stainless forgings here in uk

[@stephenwebster1368]

Yu should be well retired mate get a life and relax walk on a beach. Give the youngsters a chance!! Stop being greedy!!!!

[@backho12]

Wonderful video showing depth of cut and feed rates.

[@ChrisMaj]

That was long time ago. I was just kind of posting some work I did. Lately my channel picked up more interest so I'm trying to post more often now,

[@backho12]

@@ChrisMaj Love VBM’s especially when they’re equipped with a live spindle. One of these days we’ll see some Y-axis VBM’s hitting the market.

[@airgunningyup]

the feet per minute is unreal! awesome

[@Maloy7800]

8:30 Someone's whistling the dance of little ducks. :-))

[@zalamachineshop]

Chris another great video of your fine turning skillz. Your channel is starting to take off like a rocket. Keep them videos coming.

[@ChrisMaj]

Thanks man. WESOŁYCH ŚWIĄT, SZCZĘŚLIWEGO NOWEGO ROKU, co by się biznes rozrastał.

[@farhad_khokhar]

@@ChrisMaj hi sir I want a job, I have 5 years experience and now in my country i am jobless

[@forrestgumpv9049]

I never had much luck with Spade drills, but you did very good.

[@BruceBoschek]

Always worth watching! Thanks, Chris.

[@martinS-vn3wy]

Makes me remember back in the 1970's as an apprentice. I got put on a 120" Webster and Bennet vertical boring machine to machine some castings, it scared the f***ing c**p outer me..lol.

[@michaeljohnson-li5nn]

My first venture into programming a CNC machine tool was on a Webster & Bennet vertical turret lathe. We used it to machine overhead crane pulley wheels from a forged ring of material. Happy days.

[@dennybowman2641]

Almost looks like the process for the mrap turret bearing. Miss running an old Olympia. Nice looking finish, it soooo shinnney lol. Keep them chips flyin brother

[@reefkeepers250]

Brings back memories of retaining rings we would swap out on the end windings of generators .... power plant size generators. Heat those things up to 600*c to get 0.04" growth for a shrink fit.... memories 🤔

[@garylarson6386]

vtl's are amazing, the temps run the 10,000 part jobs and the real machinest run the vtl

[@emmitunderwood9502]

At work we just bought a new 12' bed Toshiba and it is one hell of a machine

[@vinodhsubramanian3363]

Chennai toshiba-va?? Youji vtl??

[@vinodhsubramanian3363]

UR name??

[@jahworks6466]

World class work.

[@josegomezmartinez3380]

Nice work!! Thanks for sharing

[@ChrisMaj]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@leonardzielewski2744]

Beautiful finish

[@bostedtap8399]

Very impressive machining, difficult to visualise the actual size, even though you list the material and drill dimensions. Thanks for sharing.

[@ChrisMaj]

Banana for scale 😉

[@bostedtap8399]

@@ChrisMaj 🍌🍌. This size 🤗. Showing the chips being carted away would scare some people though, serious metal removal. Great videos. Regards John.

[@ChrisMaj]

@@bostedtap8399 Thank you sir.

[@glennedward2201]

Bosted Tap were small and a 90 gallon container stuffed with aluminum chips gets heavy every week. Better than 180 gallons of birds nest and wasted space 🤔

[@IstasPumaNevada]

I caught that whistled rendition of The Chicken Dance. :)

[@SapphireEngineering]

I have a conventional 1 metre VTL. Runs superb.

[@stahlhardt7201]

Besser geht es nicht mehr Perfekt, absolut perfekt! BRAVO !!!

[@rainemanusa]

So satisfying to watch..

[@tuantq06]

I used to run a VTL OM 80 inch chuck. Kinda fun to play with.

[@23shelleng]

I am impressed good work

[@nemesisbreakz]

Those are perfect chips coming off.

[@Michal_Sobierajski]

Nice work 👌🏻

[@fubartotale3389]

Several years ago, in a shop outside of Chicago, an operator got caught up in the clamps holding down a large valve body on a 6' diameter VTL. It's a big shop with lots of distance between machines. Nobody noticed right away, he must have been too surprised and dead too soon to call out. Never defeat the safety interlocks on your machines, ever.

[@roaldacero4876]

Almost same machine i used to handle when i was working in Dubai Uae before,Cnc vertical lathe machine VTC .

[@1962hellen]

These videos are so relaxing

[@gwharton68]

Enjoy your videos very much. I get the impression that you are located in Poland or some other part of eastern Europe. Why do you use imperial measurements instead of metric?

[@ChrisMaj]

Well actually I'm Polish and Poland is all metric, but I work in the US.

[@thebee22]

That's a good workable piece of the big vertical.

[@rodrigomolina5475]

Perfecto mi amigo Chris ver esto me emociona Saludos desde Torreón Coahuila México 👍👍

[@sergiojavier2112]

Ok, Chris good but I would like to ask did you put an indicator on your finish part before you release the jaws how much movement on the materials. Because if the indicator gave readings then the dimension changes once you remove the finish part on the machine.

[@albertofraire8174]

Saludos al de Torreón soy lagunero también maneje ese torno si no me equivoco es un Honor y creo que es fresador tambien

[@bapakayabengkel3219]

👍👍👍👍

[@StefanoLinguanotto]

6:42 looks like built up edge, maybe spindle speed too low? Doing the math is 31 m/min, more like HSS speed than carbide speed... I guess it's for tool life but it may chip the insert sooner. But for sure it has worked fine. Nice job!

[@ryanb1874]

Yea wouldn't it be nice if you couldn't go too slow, but you can, and I didn't know this until recently

[@stevezickefoose8563]

8:23 :) whistling

[@DavidHuber63]

Awesome

[@alysongr]

Nice video, nice job!!!

[@szuler666]

He he ja to bym musiał ten pierscień na dwóch maszynach robić .

[@Davemcmasters]

Show the tool changes more. That's a cool feature I've never really seen on a video before. What machine is that?

[@ChrisMaj]

Vertical Turning Machine, Yama Seiki GV-1600m

[@julioalbertorodriguezovall485]

A los 18 años trabajaba en un torno vertical shibaura máquinas rodetes para turbinas, carcasas para bombas , tazones, chumaceras, impulsores, cabezas de compresores, camisas, poleas , después de eso e trabajado en muchas máquinas CNC de varias marcas tornos , centros de máquinados, mandriladoras etc.y fabricado infinidad de piezas de todos tamaños y me quedo con mis primeros años donde empecé de cero donde me enseñaron a programar y donde me dieron la confianza

[@Nordlicht88]

Nice Job Man! Thanks for this Video. How long did the whole process take?

[@ChrisMaj]

I only made one piece and I don't remember exactly how long it took. I'm a one guy do it all, setup, get the right tools, programming and machining and we are a repair machine shop so nobody is watching you with a stopwatch just to save couple of minutes.

[@Nordlicht88]

@@ChrisMaj Thanks for the answer. I just wanted to know how long the whole process from blank to finished part takes? Approximately. ;-) Such videos are very interesting, but I can't imagine how long it will take. Greetings.

[@elijahgreenberg2634]

So, for the drilling, I'm assuming it's only X and Z travel, and uses rotation of table for "Y" positioning? Also, how many different tools can the machine hold? Can it do milling, or only drilling/tapping?

[@ChrisMaj]

It can hold 16 tools, 8 for turning and 8 for milling. Yes, it can do milling, drilling, and tapping just like any milling machine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4W1mZ2vo5d-jsk

[@shug831]

Fond memories of working a 48" NC Webster Bennett many years ago.

[@roncarter2188]

Nothing like taking off a quarter of an inch at a time and a big old blue chip landing in your boot!!!

[@ChrisMaj]

In my boot never, in my shirt more than once. Fun times.

[@UkraineTrain21]

Nice work. Are those threaded holes blind? You should use a spiral flute tap in that case. To pull the chips out the top instead of pushing them down.

[@shirolee]

Unbelievable!

[@matthewchapman2494]

That's just awesome machining work!!!! Od and ID. Question... did y'all make those tool blocks?

[@ChrisMaj]

If by tool blocks you mean the tool holders where you clamp the tools than no ,they came with the machine.

[@bigbob1699]

How long did the job take ? If you want to try a different tapping oil , try mixing soluble oil with white lead if you have it .

[@BruceBlazeDMV]

First CNC lathe I ran was a Seiki VTL with a 60” diameter table. This machine looks almost exactly like the vertical I learned on. The chip bed and everything looks the same. I’m interested to know if it is. Honor Seiki VL-160CM was the model I learned on!

[@ChrisMaj]

It's a GOODWAY Yama Seiki GV-1600m 63" table.

[@mickcarson8504]

I love this, I truly do. This is what I used to do in engineering and milling, skilled work, until the Ch ine se robbed our industries. Now what do we do, make toilet paper? 😕

[@garylarson6386]

I do field service and training and am going in shops with live tooling and robots are very compaditive, I see alot of big parts because of shipping costs and wait time

[@johnbarnes7274]

I so agree how on this earth have we given away our machining and engineering skills so easily and so cheaply. My first job at Doxford Pallion Sunderland on the Wear 1960 , in the massive machine shop was on a 36 inch Webster and Bennet vertical borer I was 16 years old. Took to this like a pro, I cannot understand this and feel a sense of betrayal of our skills by those in charge. Mind you Shipyard owners have openly admitted they did not see the Far East rising and did not invest in modernising their yards. Small comfort to all those that can do it in our country. I would like to see us do it again to stop imports of many things that we can still do, by the way with quality and standardised parts , no fakes.all the best from me honest John xx

[@johnbarnes7274]

Not bloody likely see my bit on honest John . Let’s all get together and do everything again in the whole British isles, I mean us all including the Republic of Ireland come on . If we can do this then we can shoe the EU why there may be a better way to do things.. hey merry Christmas from honest John xxxxx

[@mickcarson8504]

@@johnbarnes7274 Johny, your Englis is poor but I understand what you mean by shoe the EU. I wonder why was the EU created in the first place? What was wrong with the old Europe? Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you too. 🎅👍

[@johnnybodank959]

I haven't seen any videos on how to use this type of jaws, do you just manually open and close them with a wrench to center part then torque them all tight? If so, how many ft.-lb. are you tightening them at?

[@pickerjim9246]

Manual tighten..tighten all you can...use cheater bar..

[@Cleav727]

They are some big chips! It sound like machine gun casings falling about the place.

[@samaelyhwch8331]

Very nice

[@imadahmmad1965]

Amazing

[@dorababubudithi8506]

I like engendering work

[@jamesschoeman3450]

Enduring*

[@sunppaa]

Awesome stuff! I imagine you must be careful to not overtighten jaws on a job like this?

[@ChrisMaj]

For rough turning I use little bit more strength, for finishing I'll go easy on the jaws.

[@davemanley8700]

Yes the machine I ran had an adjustable hydraulic 4 jaw chuck and using a dial indicator to sweep the part being careful not to over tighten and distort the part.

[@sdavidjohnson44]

@@ChrisMaj Very good answer. After roughing and part has cooled and ready for finishing you will see how much it sprung when you indicate it for concentricity and flatness.

[@grumpyg9350]

Fun to watch👍👍👍👍👍👍👏🏻👏🏻

[@sdavidjohnson44]

How close are your tolerances and do you maintain good concentricity with this retainer ring. I use to make parts like that on a manual kick Bullard. Putting in a large radius was always tricky but a kick Bullard allows you to control your RPM's.

[@ChrisMaj]

The tolerances were not that critical +/- 0.002" ,but I got it done within 0.001" on flatness and circularity (roundness) just have to be really careful how much pressure you put on your jaws.

[@ravidahiwala8410]

Chris Great work 👍Can you show fixturing closely?

[@rameshvasava6498]

I'm good VTL machine Setting Opreting in experience in 7 years.

[@schummiehugo]

i love big toy,s

[@WK-hd9nv]

Can you explain as to why you centered drilled before using those large drills? Those large drills don't need to be centered drilled.

[@Dombada1]

Nice but I think it is more depth at roughing possible.

[@garfl911]

Hi Chris what is the size of your vnmg 400 or 500 series and the brand is mitsubishi i think.and finally i just received my gv-1200 the thaiwan guy moint it actually and every time i ear la dance des canard je ris.bonne journée.

[@ChrisMaj]

It's a VNMG400 and the brand is KORLOY .

[@AhmadMabruriBBeruri]

Wow! How many tools and how long did it take for the whole process?

[@charliepearce8767]

Thats fast cutting speed....big time! Whoops...i took 10 mm to much off the the job....

[@thomasgiovine2211]

Looks like GE segment ring that i used to machine

[@fernandoaraujo8792]

Em 1992 eu trabalhei com torno mecânico vertical em São Paulo, agente fabricava flanges

[@e.h.j.o5490]

مشكورين .. لكن !!؟؟ ماالفائدة من تركيز الصورة على المشغولة فقط ؟ نريد ان نتعرف على الآلة ونوعيتها والمعايرة وطريقة العمل ....

[@redm9946]

هده الآلة خراطة أفقية.ليس مهم نوعية و البرنامج اشغلت في ماكينات مختلفة و برمجتها مختلفة.لكنهم تقريبا يتشابهون .الفيديو يريك تقنيات العمل . كيفية تحكيم القطعة.

[@larrydowling5213]

Looks like a retainer ring from a pressure seal valve 🤔

[@canadianalabai2836]

I’ve been running dorries st250 for 2 years similar to this muchine with Siemens sinumerik 840D controller on it and it was great

[@paulbennett6379]

Like the big stuff good vid

[@jawadibrahim2367]

It appears to me that VTLs are mostly used for large diameter short pieces. But I wonder, can they turn long pieces of work?

[@ChrisMaj]

On that VTL I can turn up to 51.18" ( 1,300 mm )

[@jawadibrahim2367]

@@ChrisMaj that's quite respectable, thanks for the info.

[@ramonching7772]

Looks like they cut away 75% of the materials!

[@rahulshenoy16]

Hei chris you have stolen that CEE kurtis banana 😆😆

[@ChrisMaj]

Haha, nice try. I made this video even before CEE had his youtube channel up. The banana idea is actually from reddit. It's used as a "banana for scale "

[@Maloy7800]

If I may suggest an improvement, I would very much like to see sped-up video rather than cuts and editing. It would be MUCH better. This is interesting work and you have great material, but you're cutting out the progress - the most interesting part. :-(

[@ChrisMaj]

I'm just recording as I go. I don't really have the time to record everything.

[@Maloy7800]

@@ChrisMaj That's a pity. :-(( This is absolutely amazing. Huge parts, CNC lathes. I've never seen anything similar on youtube. Maybe attach the camera somewhere so it car record while you work? Thanks for the videos anyway.

[@Adiiii87]

True 9Gagger using Banana for scale. Thanks.

[@chatnik78]

Thanks for the Vid 👍

[@ChrisMaj]

No problem. I think I might have to invest in better video equipment 😉

[@diditwork370]

@@ChrisMaj save you money man your shots are 👌

[@rhcpfan142]

All of the Cnc lathes where I work are 3 jaw, I’m sure they can change over to a 4 jaw chuck, but what is the point of having more jaws? More accurate? Is that why you are using the indicator? Just curious. Beginner Cnc operator.

[@ChrisMaj]

Yes they are more accurate and you can do some odd shapes kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3SalGeJf9CtsLM

[@vijayapatil9665]

Sir can you please make a video how to bearing outer side true on table 3600 please please sir

[@johnnypk1963]

R the cutters w/o coolant being sprayed on the cut cooled at all? Considering what a big cut they r taking it seems like they would overheat.

[@ChrisMaj]

I did use coolant, I'm just trying not to use it while recording.

[@Icutmetal]

Not always necessary with steel, depending on workpiece tolerance.

[@D08048]

👍👍👍🔥

[@xsarchitect]

So, you can reach table in z? How come my company bought youji machine that won't reach table?

[@173roberto]

Is it possible to mill contours with that machine?

[@ChrisMaj]

Yes kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGOtaKyNZbyke80

[@Anirudhsingh-rr4pu]

i run is vmc mahcine 1600 mm×800mm fanuc control

[@andrewmicas4327]

I would just be thinking what happens if tap breaks in last hole.

[@Bawbag0110]

Something that big and time consuming probably spark erode it out

[@stanervin6108]

@2:20 TURN THE COOLANT ON!

[@ChrisMaj]

I did use coolant. I'm just trying not to use it while recording the video or I'll get all wet.

[@stanervin6108]

@@ChrisMaj You didn't get any 'chatter' in the finish?

[@ChrisMaj]

@@stanervin6108 No

[@asdfdfggfd]

How do you get the job where you go around and change all the inserts?

[@anandamn3942]

I have observed vtl in industries . But willing to do it myself.

[@hybridengine6179]

Where can I buy the newest model of that machine? Do they make a larger one?

[@ChrisMaj]

Yes they make them bigger. Check out Yama Seiki vertical turning.

[@hybridengine6179]

@@ChrisMaj thx

[@25-kishornavsupe43]

Which material is there you were machine ?

[@muneebirfan2807]

please tell me how to write tapping program. I don't know how to use it. I've searched alot. I've machining center kitamura my center.

[@gaetanbellavia8702]

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