Major Bible Mistranslation...

"He will raise you up on ________'s wings."
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[@_magnify]

I didn’t realize Adobe After Effects flipped the R➡️L Hebrew text until after I uploaded. 😂 The word nesher should be written נשר.

[@PhixonFire]

commenting on your vid 15 months later is crazy

[@_magnify]

@@PhixonFire I think it’s the very first video I ever posted and for some reason it is back in the algorithm 🤣

[@MrHombre]

@@_magnifywhat song you sung? At the end

[@jonathanlevy9635]

also, נשר has the emphasis on the first letter

[@Jawsome-ou9ke]

​@@MrHombre It's called raise you up on eagles wings

[@donmac7780]

It totally makes the verse "where the eagles gather, that is where you will find the corpse" make sense.

[@arcwinter]

That's actually Greek, as this verse is in the new testament. I believe this verse is about Roman armies encompassing Jerusalem due to its spiritual depravity/deadness (see Luke 21:20-24). One of Rome's primary symbols was the eagle it was the ensign of the Roman legion and was the bird of Jupiter (Roman version of Zeus). Thus, eagles is a very likely translation.

[@Rynewulf]

tbf eagles are also long associated with battles and war, likely because as a large bird of prey they were seen scavenging battlefields just like wolves, bears, and crows and virtually any 'big enough' to be inherently intimidating or dangerous. These animals all share warrior and death symbology likely for those reasons

[@dibyaudhdas1978]

​@@Rynewulfdo eagles fly in circles over a dead corpse?

[@Rynewulf]

@@dibyaudhdas1978 Im unsure honestly, circling is common for a lot of birds. I've seen plenty of seagulls do it, I think its just how they all stay in place while flying?

[@thePyiott]

@@dibyaudhdas1978they fly in circles and eat carrion so yeah probably

[@ixpastel]

Vultures are actually cool as hell. They don't deserve the flack they get.

[@letsomethingshine]

The bible itself compares Yahweh to a powerful vulture flying large wingspan and looming in the sky... and then also calls the enemies of Israel "vultures" circling around a wounded man. Some popular English translations changed the first word to say "Eagle" but the second word they left as saying "vulture." That is why vultures get flack. And also our modern trash heaps attract a lot of vultures, especially in more tropical climates.

[@blessedwithchallenges9917]

Careful: in 1926 an official word for Eagle was created, by Zoologist Aharoni. This was because nesher traditionally referred to Eagle when describing everything from the Roman Crest to Jewish students. Nesher also meant vulture...but not exclusively. This has been so highly debated by Zooligists and Linguists that the word was actually not even added to their Hebrew Academy of Languages Bird Dictionary. I like your content, just don't like knowing you're sharing stuff as fact that isn't fact. That's dangerous and verges on immoral. Please be sure before you spend time posting things. Your channel assumes viewers believe truth matters. If we see you pushing junk/questionable content, that's what your channel and your integrity will become. A message from sincere viewer.

[@bufficliff8978]

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[@biblehistoryscience3530]

Many centuries before the Latin Vulgate, the LXX Greek translation of Isaiah says "eagles," and the lexcons do, too. So this myth is busted.

[@Thomas-ul7dr]

Real rap they're beautiful and highly intelligent

[@djodude1]

Interesting video! The Hebrew for vulture is written backwards. As a Hebrew teacher I run into this issue all the time, especially if I try to copy and paste text😭

[@adrianblake8876]

Also he says it in ultimate stress when it's in penult... And the book he shows misnames it as a different bird entirely...

[@develpamperbottom]

Thought I was going crazy trying to understand why ר was making an n sound.

[@JunNights]

Why is it written backwards? (Cause that sounds fascinating). Do you read Hebrew text the other way then and then need to change it when you see the word or? :-)

[@adrianblake8876]

@@JunNights Something to do with computers rendering text...

[@djodude1]

@@JunNights Hebrew text reads right-to-left, and in this case, the letters were facing the right way but in reverse order. A lot of text editing programs have all kinds of issues formatting text in alphabets that read right-to-left, especially when it comes to punctuation, copy-paste, and line breaks. This is despite the fact that billions of people read, write, or speak at least one language that goes right-to-left (e.g. Arabic, Dari, Pashto, Hebrew).

[@benlazer3812]

This mistranslation is so rooted, that when you write "nesher" (Hebrew for vulture) in Google translate, it translates it to "eagle", and most Hebrew speakers make the same mistake. I heard that The Eagles once came to a concert a few decades ago when we used to translate band names, and the papers called them "The Vultures" (in Hebrew), and that kind of perpetuated the mistake. Also, there's a famous malt beer company called "Bira Nesher"(="Vulture Beer"), and their symbol is an eagle 😅

[@RSZ528]

Yup. I always struggle with this. What is the word for eagle, עיט? I speak both English and Hebrew and find that animal names are what I often get the most confused as to what is the right equivalent in the other language.

[@ליזהנורט]

We also confuse Tigers and namer 🫣 Hebrew speakers are not strong with animals. That's why לא יהפוך נמר חברבורותיו is a bit of a sentence people don't think about, because they assume it's about tiger stripes but it's not, and חברבורות is spots, not stripes

[@WalterRutledge-l9i]

Even Hebrew is not immune to linguistic drift 😂 !

[@Dawnson134]

A Vulture is the great mother. A Vulture will eat her own legs to digest and feed to her children so they won't be hungry. RESPECT TO THE VULTURE

[@WaitUpBrett]

Do you have a source? That’s amazing if it’s true but I’ve never heard about that

[@BrutusAlbion]

ya got any sources for that, I mean I'm not necessarely doubting you but what the heck ... bird eats its own legs to feed to its babies? I need to see that!

[@Dawnson134]

@@BrutusAlbion it's hear say I tried to look up the video where I heard the hear say and I could not find that. I can confirm that in ancient Egypt a Goddess or ntr for the vulture was Nehkebet. She was adorned on the head dress of royalty.

[@nosuchthing8]

If she eats her own legs she won't live to feed the baby

[@BrutusAlbion]

@@nosuchthing8 Yeah what I was thinking. Makes no sense so Imma neeed those sources.

[@avokka]

Vultures are way cooler than eagles. Imagine being a carrion bird, a sign of death and decay, yet a true representation of pure loyalty and parenthood?

[@invalidaccount6147]

Environment cleaners, Just like flying pigs.

[@digitaljanus]

Casting a carrion bird in the role of psychopomp makes so much more sense than an eagle!

[@birdbird5337]

Yeah, especially since there were cultures in mesopotamia (see: zoroastrianism) that practiced sky burial - placing your dead on the top of a sacred mountain or tall temple and letting vultures eat them

[@CubeInspector]

Eagles are also carrion eating

[@MarechalVI]

"It's definitely not a pretty bird" Sir, how dare you?

[@matthewcovey6284]

Vultures are scavengers, meaning that they eat dead animals. Outside of the oceans, vultures are the only known obligate scavengers

[@tatiana4050]

You wrote n-sh-r left to right. Not right to left. What you wrote would be r-sh-n

[@grantshearer5615]

That's gotta be really confusing

[@morgantrevino4881]

Dude Hebrew isn’t his native language cut him some slack 😂

[@tatiana4050]

@@morgantrevino4881 neither am I. But like if you putting letters on the screen you should know what you putting on.

[@MyBrandingIsBad]

​@@morgantrevino4881 if someone is translating the Bible, there should not be any slack to give.

[@ld7207]

​@@MyBrandingIsBad the man whos literally straightening out the slack. Out pf curisity did you already know the eagle thing?

[@forevercomescrashing]

As someone raised Catholic who sang that song, I'm dying at "and we will raise you up on Vultures wings"

[@Ryan_Christopher]

Must be an American Catholic thing because I never knew that song until I went to Mass in America, and even then only in certain parishes.

[@eajaros]

That was my same thought too and I’m a recovered Catholic

[@crowdemon_archives]

Lmao

[@RhombusOfTheJ]

Bro I know. That’s the first thing I thought of

[@rowan404]

@@RhombusOfTheJ Same.

[@Username-ld7ho]

Well, I’m thinking that in other languages it is different. In Romanian, “vultur” means eagle. And “soim” means hawk So there might be a similar thing happening here. And an eagle and a vulture have the same word for its name.

[@catrinoiuandrei4624]

Eagle e acvilă (stiu că există termenul de vultur pleșuv da ala e un caz particular, pasarea aia e tot o acvilă)

[@Death-gj2dn]

That’s so interesting, because when I was writing about a fictional statue designed after a biblical angel I decided I wanted the design of the wings to make sense contextually and I did some research that brought me to the griffon vulture. Glad to see it’s even more related than I though!

[@well_i_say]

you can sculpting an angel? doesn't that can make people Influence to pray or ask something especially to that thing not God. doesn't that make you equaling God to something else.

[@asmodeus304]

theres an angel described as having many faces but the face of a vulture too biblically!!

[@tdmlecso384]

thank you. i really needed this calm voice after today. everything is going down again

[@mattcahoe8311]

It's anachronistic to say that נֶשֶׁר only means vulture or only means eagle. That type of taxonomy didn't exist at the time. Instead the word covers a semantic range that includes both vultures and eagles.

[@KaoXoni]

Now the jukebox in my head ist playing El Condor Pasa.

[@Lyrielonwind]

Great song.

[@meryemcakr4101]

Me: holy shit that's a beautiful creature! Him: it's definitely not a pretty bird Me:oh...

[@ferchoromay]

It's the same as in the Mexico foundation myth that states Huitzilopochtli ordered the Mexica to found a city where they saw an eagle devouring a serpent. Eagle is the word Spaniards used to translate the myth, but recent research has found that eagles weren't that important to precolumbian civilizations (also they don't tend to eat snakes) and the most probable bird the mexica referd to was the king vulture.

[@limitedtime5471]

Vultures are impressive creatures. I met some on a remote beach once, feasting on a washed up large carcass, one flew over me checking me out and made me feel absolutely tiny (and i definitely am not lol)

[@seatbelttruck]

Was it a Condor? I know some Condors specialize in beached carcasses, as they are freaking huge. That would be so cool. ...I wonder if it'd get the point across AND be more accurate to text to say God will raise us up on Condor's wings. They don't tend to get the same flack other vultures do (though TECHNICALLY they aren't closely related to griffon vultures, but adding taxonomy into the mix will just make everything even more complicated).

[@kimchiman1000]

🎶 You will fly high like a vulture Spread your wings and fly away... 🎶

[@isisross4516]

I've been learning more about mistranslations in historical and/or religious texts, and it's endlessly frustrating that a lot of the changes are for arbitrary reasons- like the translators at the time simply having personal bias and prejudice against certain details.

[@katchibediako7036]

Shout out to Ma'at. May we all be raised up on the wings of Truth.

[@Be_A_Bi_Warlock]

Praise Ra!

[@seventhbeanofaseventhbean]

Now the verse in the Story of Isaac by Leonard Cohen, "Thought I saw an eagle But it might have been a vulture I never could decide" Makes a lot more sense

[@venita5234]

you have the letters reversed -- it IS eagle , vulture is a different Hebrew word

[@truedarklander]

A vulture is still a bird of prey.

[@venita5234]

@@truedarklander Hebrew is read right to left, not left to right like English. He reversed the letters. It should be when read right to left נשר nun, shin, resh which is the word "eagle".

[@truedarklander]

@@venita5234 yeah I know the letters are reversed, the issue here is that you're using modern Hebrew while the bible doesn't.

[@grandmagrace9453]

Thank you for saying out loud!

[@venita5234]

@@truedarklander it’s Bible Hebrew

[@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8p]

On the contrary my culture views an eagle as this evil force that steals the young ones of your animals. The birds we actually cherish is a Rooster,crane and ostrich.

[@mungelomwaangasikateyo376]

We should change it back to Vulture's wings, the griffon vulture is so relatable

[@ccmayhem7549]

Why does everyone present possibilities as fact? It's so... Disgusting.

[@UraharaShoten]

Now imagine that there are THOUSANDS MORE examples like this, accumulating over thousands of years (not even including omissions)! There is your Bible.

[@boo714]

Nesher = (nser) in arabic = eagle in english

[@yoyo777]

and the word lechem-לחם means bread, while in Arabic, it is close to the word for meat. are you saying every time the Bible says לחם it means meat and not bread?

[@boo714]

@@yoyo777 no i don't claim that, but there is a lot of similar words and the old Hebrew language died then they use the Arabic roots of words to revival the language, so maybe we can use Arabic to deduce some meanings

[@nadavgoldberg603]

Very nice video! As a native Hebrew speaker I got to say you nailed it except for how the word נשר shows up in the video (it's backwards, probably because Hebrew is written from right to left and many programs would run things backwards when switching between English and Hebrew).

[@asilnorahc8910]

Also vultures are actually pretty social and they get attached to their trainer way easier than eagles. They're big softies, and they're so immensely essential to the ecosystem as well.

[@BilaamsDonkey]

Nailed iiiiit! I love these. You could do Bible mistranslations exclusively!

[@avenged277693]

Vultures actually are much better at soaring than any other bird. The highest bired flight ever recorded was a griffon vulture that was struck by a plane at 37,000 feet. Which is about 7 miles of altitude.

[@gratefulguy4130]

Interesting how it always takes all these mental gymnastics to come to these, "Well, ackshully..."s.

[@sugarmuffin319]

Vultures face the sunrise in the East every morning to warm themselves and they open their wings to the Rising Sun. Vultures actually greet every morning with an open heart❤

[@elani]

I'll not stand vulture slander, they are some of the coolest animals out there and serve as a crucial part of the ecosystem

[@russguppy8761]

What else have they swapped out to their favour. Lots.

[@polasn-p3o]

Thats just one of many church "fixes" and "mistranslation" of the Bible

[@voltafy]

In Arabic "nissér" (same as the Hebrew word "nishér" but with an S instead) does, in fact, mean "eagle" and not vulture.. Clarification: Hebrew and Arabic are both Semitic (sister) languages (e.g., Spanish and Italian).

[@zebusaqua4415]

Makes me wonder if it has more roots in historic cultures leaving their dead out for the vultures to pick clean.

[@ducokniepstra8217]

I also kind of like that because vultures eat the dead, in a way you could say you were to be carried on vulture wings.

[@loreman7267]

Vultures are actually extremely intelligent, and when raised by hand they imprint on their handlers. Love and loyalty are hard-wired into them. And that's a Cape Vulture, not a Griffin, btw.

[@kamilashamuratova1159]

Interestingly in the Tibetan Buddhism vultures are considered holy creatures, they’re practiced in a rite called sky burial when a body of a deceased is given to vultures as food. It is believed that after consumption vultures help the soul in transitioning from the physical world to spiritual plane of existence, and due to their sacredness they guide the deceased straight to Heavens. Vultures placed in high regards among other birds of prey cause they don’t kill living creatures for survival but instead eat already dead bodies and thus bring neither harm nor sorrow to anyone

[@nataliasclarandi8204]

So in Joseph king of dream, when he said he saw a bird & followed it, trying to fly like it, & the movie shows an eagle, both bible & DreamWorks animators failed to get a Hebrew translation for a Hebrew story.

[@tommothedog]

People dont seem to get that Judaism was heavily influenced by the religion of the great imperial power of that time. Zoroastrianism. Edit: Zoroastrians believe vultures are linked with holiness.

[@MisterRorschach90]

It’s be better to just get rid of it altogether and protect the world.

[@ArkayeCh]

It will never stop being funny that our modern bible is basically a fan translation by a bunch of priests and higher ups who refused to be even a little uncool.

[@antoniopacelli]

Remember we barely need any oxygen...is the Heartbeat that fuck us..

[@safaiaryu12]

Cultural perspectives on vultures are so interesting. Western cultures tend to find them creepy or gross, but some other cultures venerate them. The ancient Egyptians, for example, saw them as protective, motherly figures. Speaking of them only laying one egg per season, their population grows EXTREMELY slowly. Especially since not all eggs or baby vultures make it to adulthood, so many years, they don't successfullyreproduce. There's actually a huge problem with crashing vulture populations in India and some other Asian countries - the population has dropped as much as 98% in just the past couple of decades. This has had drastic ecological consequences, including, but not limited to, carcasses not getting cleaned up, thus a massive increase in pests. This is because of the increasing popularity of the anti-inflammatory drug diclofenac in veterinary medicine; in India especially, where cows are not raised for human consumption, and deceased cattle are left out for scavengers. They've been treating senior cows with diclofenac, and unfortunately, though vultures can eat almost anything without getting harmed... it turns out diclofenac is extremely toxic for them. Just a tiny bit in the cow's system can quickly kill a couple dozen vultures who feed on it. And yeah, they reproduce so slowly... Diclofenac in vet medicine is illegal now in India (though it can still be bought on the black market - it's unfortunately very effective and very cheap), and there are conservation groups breeding vultures for release, but it's an excruciatingly slow process, and vultures on that continent are in extreme danger of being wiped out. 😔

[@topaztapir3794]

You should do a channel bible translation! If you can be bothered but I find these really interesting as it makes you wonder what other inaccuracies there are

[@BrandonBrewster-r6q]

Many many mistranslations. The whole message of the Bible was mistranslated. From we have the power of god to, Jesus has the power of god. Truly saddening.

[@kingconstantinusthesadisti133]

They literally swap for more brutal species.

[@rivalifritdarc2481]

I hate when people think they can do a better job than god.

[@lurkerlp]

A similar thing actually exists with Foxes too, likely when Foxes are being talked about in those passages it’s actually referring to Jackals.

[@duplicarus]

Yeah vultures are rad, they’re like natures trashcan

[@nathanielcowan3971]

That just sounds like Voltron, and I'm here for it

[@EinfaII]

That bird sound that he uses sounds like the vulture sound in don't starve

[@Eddgarur]

Now I understand why Ye named his album Vultures.

[@edgytoucan3444]

Vultures are awesome! They’re a little gross to think abt but for an animal they’re very cleanly and super important

[@1988vikable]

Yea I dont think God would use a bird that devours rotten pestilence as a symbolic meaning I think he meant eagle.

[@Miniskirt29]

That vulture in the book reminded me oh Ho-Oh when he flew by at the end of the first pokemkn episode; else think that too?

[@woodworkerroyer8497]

I find that vulture to be gorgeous. So i guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[@yeenar]

This guy does the coolest 60% well-informed videos

[@Marshmallowchick1983]

I want God’s Word, not man’s decision to change God’s Word. This is man deciding God’s instructions due to vanity.

[@RLaraMoore]

Why is it concluded that they meant vulture just because it was the most common raptor? Certainly, even if the Griffon Vulture was the most common, there were also species of eagles too.

[@rachelanjewierden9981]

I used to live in the Middle East and actually got to see the Griffin and Egyptian Vultures in the wild, let's just say Wow, beautiful birds! For context, I work with lots of raptors including Golden's and Balds.

[@chandlerminh6230]

In Hindu mythology, when Rama's wife get abducted the bird that try to rescue her is a vulture. But in cinema and TV, the bird shown is often an eagle. May be culture across the world knew the protective behaviour of vulture. World's largest bird sculpture is based on this character from Rama's story. But again the sculpture is shaped like an eagle and not a vulture. #JusticeforVultures

[@Asdfgfdmn]

In Arabic, the word close and it comes from the verb N S R, which means to eat from a dead body. That's what eagles do ladies and gentlemen

[@lancelotscart582]

Late to the party, here, but it was not the Latins, but rather the Greek-speaking Jews who produced the Septuagint who rendered the word as "eagle". Since the Latin translators often deferred to the LXX version, they followed their lead here as well.

[@thelastunderscore1491]

0:27 biblically accurate cluster of feathers

[@Unotch]

Well, if you die there he WILL raise you up on vulture's wings, while in vulture's stomachs.

[@brendanike800]

Not to mention they fly really fricking high.

[@spiderxdgaming]

This explains Bear Ghost's "Vulture".

[@ephy1973]

Nesher was written left to right. In Hebrew it is supposed to be right to left. So it said, "Reshen" on the screen.

[@williamwinn2114]

Here you go again. You know what the translators were thinking. The Word said what it said and IT IS NOT NEGOTIABLE.

[@MilesDei95]

Vultures are seen as a bad omen and eagle is a sign of victory. Same as crows in Nordic are seen as wise and loyal, but we see them as a bad omen in central eu. While we see dowes as a good sign

[@belgarat0]

If you want to dig deeper into ancient jewish literature, the "nesher" is described like the Phoenix in mythology, and in other places it's described like the eagle and in other places like the vulture

[@Grinnar]

Vultures are such cool animals. We don't give them enough respect.

[@ichimiustin8390]

In many languages vultures and eagles are represented by a single word.

[@spacecadetMD]

We should use the word "raptor." It can refer to either eagles or vultures. Also it's hella cool.

[@justamanwithoutamustache]

can u do the same for the quran translation? i'm curious if they have a mistranslation too

[@afek841]

The pasouk is also written in the first person perspective, וָאֶשָּׂא אֶתְכֶם עַל כַּנְפֵי נְשָׁרִים, וָאָבִא אֶתְכֶם אֵלָי "And I will carry you uppon vultures wing and bring you to me". IDK what you did to the Bible😅

[@PaulaDavis-h2r]

‭Deuteronomy 4:2 KJVAAE‬ [2] Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish aught from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

[@MaridoDoFelps]

I hate how people see and treat vultures :( They are adorable, yes, I find their little naked angry face adorable, usually very friendly since they aren't really known to actively prey, but more eat leftovers from other animals or eat dead/dying animals, and they are usually so scared and goofy lol A vulture once landed on my window, they were just sitting there, relaxing, resting. My curtains were half closed so I guess that's why they were chill enough to do so, they didn't see me. Or my huge cat, who tried jumping on the window to "protect the house from the big bird", all floofed up. The poor thing stumbled, almost fell inside my house, eyes wide open, and flew away SO QUICK lmao My cat was scared too tho, poor baby never saw any other animal, imagine A VULTURE being the first one

[@marshallrobinson1019]

I want to fly like a vulture... 😂

[@samuelgross5846]

Great video, but what I will say is that the Hebrew word you wrote was backwards. Hebrew is read right to left, so the word should have been written נשר.

[@HoradrimBR]

Or a falcon, that was common in Ancient Middle East as well...

[@mrnnhnz]

Surely a vulture is not a 'bird of prey' but a carrion feeder?

[@No1_sp3cia1]

Makes you wonder how much else people hundreds of yes later changed. So it would "be cooler"

[@alexcaraballo3189]

It took me ten seconds to find out you're incorrect. I looked up Isaiah 40:31 in the blue letter Bible, pulled up the interlinear, looked at the meaning of neser, and cross-referenced every instance of the word throughout Scripture. While it can mean vulture, in particular the griffon vulture. Neser is used 26 times within the old testament, and every time it is used it refers to an eagle. In Lev 11:13 and Deu 14:12 it uses a different word for vulture (peres & azniya).

[@moritzkorsch9029]

I like your more quiet delivery in this one.

[@stevenhall9009]

But vultures aren't birds of prey, they eat what's already dead.

[@TheMarioSalles]

The eagle was chosen by the ego after all. And maybe the vulture was just lack of culture.

[@karbazagarsonofzadnaon8238]

I think that'd be funny. I'd love to see the looks on everyone's face when I sing that during worship service.

[@stargatis]

Your soul flies away (and comes back) with a vulture in Zoroastrianism. It’s the original stork.

[@Khorne_of_the_Hill]

I think we should switch, but I do love that Aquila

[@angrytedtalks]

I've never seen the reason who eagles are considered better than vultures. But vultures are associated with death...

[@joofbing]

Imagine if it was actually the sparrows

[@joshuakarr-BibleMan]

It's also literally "the breath of Don."

[@TheBosteth]

That seems like a fair change to translation to me, its both birds that are given positive qualities by their cultures. The meaning may be more misundersdtood if it was vultures.