What Was Each Legion's Relationship with Their Primarch Like? | Warhammer 40k Lore

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Primarchs were genetically coded to be loyal to their Primarchs and love them, but this wasn't always the case
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[@majorkill]

If only Angron used salicylic acid in his skincare routine, maybe his sons would have respected him Don't be Angron, get an elite Skincare package for 70% off here : geolog.ie/MAJORKILL70 And yes my girlfriend is wildly cute

[@sharinganamvs9839]

Day 5 of requesting to make a video on Cato Sicarius

[@withlovefromlightindust591]

Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.

[@consolidate84]

Need ice-cream

[@shanelop8749]

Make a BattleTech video!!!!

[@cloodhound9417]

Running out of content huh

[@LordMephiston40k]

Every Legion: “Father” Emperor’s Children: “Daddy”

[@thefungus4220]

Blood angels too

[@Aren61104]

Salamanders too but they use it for a different reason

[@MikaalHasnain-ep7qu]

I feel like the emperor's children would be the space marines who get on there knees and you know the rest

[@snifferofasbestos1257]

*diddy

[@xanmontes8715]

You guys are absolute weirdos...

[@mikee9464]

I have to admit Guilliman has grown on me with the new lore. He is super relatable and I am enjoying the books about him

[@cesso666]

He's Warhammer's Steve Rogers

[@Thrall900]

The Matt Ward era was rough, but I felt it was needed

[@nomus1172]

I guess it has to do with the fact that he was the only primarch that had a normal family that didn’t use , manipulate , groom , mutulate , or was nonexistent.

[@comical_world]

He's my favourite primarch so seeing ppl like him more makes me happy

[@lpedr0l]

You mean a primark grew inside you? 😏🤣

[@TheWarmachine375]

World Eaters Legion: "NOTICE US!" Angron: *"NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"*

[@fhwkeifuenw]

"Hey dad, do you wanna go train with me?" "F*ck off!"

[@DeadBattleBrother15]

He didn't notice them because he erase their existence

[@carsoncasmirri3874]

Considering he killed 4 them on their first meeting and by all accounts it should have been 5 but I don’t know how the fuck Kharn managed to survive the ass beating he got

[@anirudhashok3332]

​@@carsoncasmirri3874the explanation was something like despite not fighting back against angron he still looked completely defiant after getting his ass beat

[@bloodjunky9214]

The fact that Gilliman felt bad he didn’t love his 40k sons like he did his 30k sons speaks to how he came to feel about them and that the lion is reincorporating the fallen back to the angels instead of killing puts his care for them over his untrusting nature. The loyalist primarch cared more about their sons that what seemed on the outside

[@gamechanger8908]

This actually makes me sad for Corvus. Corvus saw his Legion and each Space Marines as brothers in arms, knowing how he fought and bled with them. But when he returns they're pretty much strangers to him and probably worship him. Though he would respect Shrike for how he values the freedom and safety of worlds doomed by Imperial Corruption rather than glories of Astra Millitarum commanders.

[@jiyuhong5853]

the lion is what?

[@IronVigilance]

Mortarion was also conducting combat exercises with his Legion to establish a bond between the original Terran born marines and the ones recruited from Barbarus. This shows his acceptance and willingness to work with the original Dusk Raiders. This training proved invaluable when they wiped out a whole legion of tanks with their battle formation

[@Ungantor]

His summary did kind of gloss over how Typhon was the corrupt element rotting the legion from within from the very start. Mortarion didn't trust anyone BUT his sons, despite how that repeatedly ended up being a bad idea.

[@Tanzenergise]

he is one of those tragic primarchs like angron who got into his situation because of an outside force he coulden't control. if it weren't for Typhus sending them into nurgles domain mortarian would still be loyal to the emperor. besides his design his story is the reason he's my favourite traitor primarch.

[@undercovertakodachi4301]

​@@Tanzenergisewe love that moth Wings

[@Tanzenergise]

ide like to reiterate on this one, by "loyal" i mean he'd still be serving under the emperor, i mean "loyal" very loosely here considering what the emperor did to him.

[@RetroRadianceLight]

@@Tanzenergisewhat? Save him when he couldn’t even get inside of his adoptive’s father’s gate? How awful of Big E

[@jdosser]

With Mortarion, it's interesting that the Death Guard that abandoned him to join Typhus still respect Mortarion. Most Death Guard in the current setting are HH era Marines with almost all of them coming from Barbarus and they still remember what Mortarion did for them and still respect him for that.

[@robertnelson9599]

I guess Morty was a better father figure than Big E. At least that's what he tells himself.

[@charlesfisher-kh5sw]

typhus and morty fucking hate each other

[@jdosser]

@@charlesfisher-kh5sw I was more referring to the Death Guard that follow Typhus, not Typhus himself

[@mariusconstantin6057]

​@@robertnelson9599so far as a non reader I can agree that Mortarion being better than Big E at being a dad isn't that hatd to imagine. He did fuck up all of the traitor Primarch and loyalist somehow

[@trimeerious4349]

Getting a video about how each of the pre-heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans situation of first to re-emerge and rule the imperium would be cool ngl

[@percivalden84]

I shall support you, brother!

[@xavierhugo9269]

For the crusade!

[@trimeerious4349]

​@@percivalden84only in death does duty end

[@thadz2493]

THE CRUSADE SHALL NEVER END!!

[@NP3GA]

@@thadz2493 it will end IN VICTORY

[@chuck2703]

Nightlords were like abused sons. They hated Curze but when he died they were unified in the loss. A video of last few seconds of his life brought sadistic killers to cry...

[@muzanjackson8827]

I think you're a bit harsh on Morty. When he was talking to Garro, Garro felt a rush of devotion to him, and Mortarion expressed regret at the deaths of his loyalist sons. Edit: Mom I’m famous

[@RikkiTikkiTavi290]

Could have just been Primarch aura at work.

[@muzanjackson8827]

@@RikkiTikkiTavi290 yeah, that's what I'm saying. Morty had absolute control over it. He literally hid in a room full of people, and no one noticed him until he wished it.

[@MWH12085]

Morty only agreed to serve Nurgle because it was the only way to save his sons.

[@domc9801]

I hate Mortarian he’s a hypocrite and idiot but……he loved his sons, that’s with out a doubt true, they probably never knew his turmoil, he largely kept to himself and others expressed devotion to him, he fell mainly because he wanted them to live, he made a choice most primarchs would have made and one that ironically enough Magnus made.

[@Tacticalsnails]

​@@MWH12085 people like to forget that about him alot but im sure his sons would rather die than join nurgel

[@TheWarmachine375]

The Salamanders loved their Primarch so much they're willing to find all of Vulkan's Artefacts and bring them together so he will return. Which Vulkan will emerge from his deepest darkest corner of his room in Nocturne to go to space and make a Dramatic Entrance by Drop Pod before his sons.

[@doomfistmain5515]

When you said darkest corner I thought you were gonna make a joke about his skin colour

[@Fugels]

I see what you did there. Always good to see tts is still in our hearts.

[@ralkrey9526]

Damn if they can't find it then Vulkan wouldn't even show up ever. That's going to be more sad if Trazyndiana Jones have it.

[@ramonserna8089]

And reveal the real treasure is each other friendship they made while searching the artifacts.

[@chasezirkle3328]

I WISH TO PET THIS CREATURE

[@randomcenturion7264]

Konrad: I hate you Night Lords: Right back at you dad

[@thebossbrothers123]

Konrad is Batman and the Night Lords are his Red Hoods.

[@diegogisbertllorens7416]

Just a correction about the Salamanders and Iron Hands reaction to the death of their respective gene-daddies: yes, some Salamanders were emotionally wrecked, but overall the XVIIIth's reacted with stubborn faith in the fact that Vulkan Lives (stomp! Stomp!), whereas the Xth as whole had massive emotional trauma they never recovered from. As said in one of the novels "whatever they needed to cope with the pain of their loss, had been taken from them during their ascension".

[@brockwilkie6022]

yeah I was surprised how he put the Salamder reaction as lower than Iron Hands. Those guys lost it and it still affects them 10,000 years later. Seriously, get over it guys.

[@NP3GA]

(( As time has proven, a caring paternal figure is the best defence against the vileness of chaos)) - Shield host Proteus

[@matthewsmith4710]

You will be remembered TTS

[@koolunit]

Push me on the Swiiiiing!

[@Pragabond]

@@koolunit Magnus: III'M.....HAPPYYY

[@majorkill]

Somethings I neglected to mention - Corvus despised his Terran born marines and banished most of them due to them reminding him of the slave masters he overthrew, his relationship i refer to now was with the rest of the legion he didn’t banish/recruited from deliverance - morty was loved and respected by his legion as evident by the death guard being one of the only cohesive tesitor legions still around, but he still definitely unnerved many in his own legion. - admittedly my iron hands lore isn’t excellent, I was referencing his pre death lore as well as how some of the istvaan survivors (Weyland and friends) reflected on it as my source. Seems like the relationship wasn’t as good as I was lead to believe

[@IAmCipeRamo]

Sisters of battle foot job

[@IAmCipeRamo]

Oh fuc this aint google no manches

[@krieger8825]

Who wouldnt hate them tbh. They were assholes even by Terran standards

[@Memelord1117]

Please do a video of how the 30k Imperium devolved into its current counterpart.

[@nexusthenormie5578]

Good vid idea

[@eagle_and_the_dragon]

Ecclesiarchy, the Inquisition and Chaos. The growth of all three resulted in Imperial degradation. Only the arrival of Guilliman finally balanced out the control of power in the Imperium, helping to delay collapse and inspire hope.

[@Shitbird3249]

Long ago in a distant land I aku…Emperor of Mankind turned a 39 into a 40.

[@robertnelson9599]

I know the High Lords voted to make the Imperial Cult a state religion in order to have better control over the populace.

[@24fretsoffury]

Just read the Heresy, that’s how shit got fucked.

[@NP3GA]

Day eighty two of asking majorkill to compare Abaddon and Archaeon

[@Steeltael]

Never give up.

[@Distix-uz8qr]

One day

[@Alex-pj8nz]

He will never do warhammer fantasy or AOS unless he is really drunk or it’s a dare.

[@matthewcheban4863]

Don’t give up man

[@darthmac8637]

I believe in your mission.

[@DjuraValtr]

it's funny how Ahriman repeated the same "mistake" his father did. Magnus tried to warn Emp, Emp got mad. Ahriman tried to warn Magnus, Magnus got mad.

[@CidVeldoril]

Magnus personality-wise is VERY much like Big E. They even came to the same conclusion about the Choas Gods early on. Magnus knew about them for a while and decided telling his sons about them would be a BAD idea. Sadly, Magnus being probably the closest to Big E in personality, he also inherited spades of his arrogance.

[@nekomancer4641]

Tbf Magnus was not sitting on a golden toilet seat & never ordered similar instruction Big E gave to Magnus

[@michaelhowell2326]

Dude, you nailed. I've always wondered why I liked Guilliman the best, and you pointing out his "humanity" is exactly why. He's been my go to for about 20 years now.

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

With magnus ironically there is still huge amounts of love but also bitterness anger and pain. ESPECIALLY between Ahriman and Magnus. If I remember correctly TS are still among the more cohesive 'chaos' legions.

[@blizzardgaming7070]

Them and the Deathguard are the only two to have never fractured.

[@LouisKing995]

Most of them are mindless automatons aren’t they ? After the rubric.

[@Gabronthe]

Magnus has formally forgiven Ahriman because dwelling on it doesn't cure the rubrics.

[@heartlessnobody1143]

Emperor on the Golden toilet: *now you know how it feels. Huh?*

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

@@LouisKing995 yep I meant those who have remained.

[@CuriousLumenwood]

Vulkan meeting his legion is the reason why I picked Salamanders as my first army. Vulkan arrived in their literal darkest hour. If I remember right, they were fighting an Ork WAAGH on a far off planet, nowhere near any other ally, so the legion had no hope of backup. But they kept fighting, because every second they struggled meant another potential life saved. Vulkan arrived with a wave of reinforcements and literally smashed into the Orks, leading the charge from the front. When it was over, his legion knelt but Vulkan told them to rise, and he knelt instead in honour of their sacrifice, bravery, honour, and courage. He even gave Cassian Vaughn, the previous commander of the legion, the Power Klaw of the Ork that had mortally wounded him, as a show of respect and honour.

[@higsbymacguffin3982]

Mortarion's greatest flaw was a complete and utter inability to get over himself, but I see him more as a figure of self induced tragedy than genuinely malicious. It's a shame too because his more positive qualities would make his sons prime Grey Knight material. I'm starting to think Typhus is the biggest douche ever to receive gene-seed.

[@henrypaleveda7760]

Erebus

[@AthosJosue]

I wouldn't say self induced, he was abused and traumatized in his youth and then denied of revenge and closure, so his tragedy is in a big measure caused by trauma and pain.

[@richardmoskalyov8503]

Typhus is so hated that he doesn't even have demonhood

[@higharchbishopofteatasting6217]

2nd. 2nd biggest, Erebus exists.

[@jonathan6401]

How each pre-heresy primarch would react to the current imperium when placed in Gullimans shoes would be a cool video idea

[@mewopswisher5342]

A video on how each Primarch would react in Guilliman place would be pretty cool.

[@trevorwhatever2050]

*Primarch *Guilliman Come on, it's not that hard...

[@ralkrey9526]

@@trevorwhatever2050 Gurlyman? Or Guillotine or is it gorillaman? Guilliman is hard just like Cumberspatch or cucumbatch. Anyways loved papa Rob.

[@Whispergryn]

​@@trevorwhatever2050 we all know what he meant. Don't be a buzzkill there bud

[@TheWarmachine375]

The Iron Hands despised Ferrus Manus for being weak and fell in battle a weakling during the Horus Heresy. And that he intended to teach them of not hating their own flesh and replacing it with excessive cybernetics after the Great Crusade, which the Iron Hands don't like it.

[@TheBreaker153]

They prolly still love him it’s just watching their dad die like that induced a legion wide mental breakdown. That’s why they “despise him”. They love ferrus above all

[@carltomacruz9138]

Ferrus always lost to Fulgrim. That's weak.

[@junkdunkster7201]

@@carltomacruz9138 fulgrim had daemon dick hacks, mind you

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

@@carltomacruz9138 You do realize that Fulgrim was infamously skilled as a duelist to the point where MORTARION wondered whether the Khan had a shot at beating him in a straight fight, right?

[@sokratikas]

That was a chunk of the iron hands,by no means all. But really that's trauma speaking since throughout the great crusade they loved ferrus. He was harsh and demanding like perturabo,but fair,and would uphold the same standards he demands from his sons to himself and for that he was loved by sons,and to even receive a scrap of praise from him was a source of pride for them. After his death him being "weak" for falling to his emotions was simply a way to cope with the fact that the man they all looked up the most had died

[@planetbob6703]

Wonder how the war hounds would feel about true Angron. Would they reject him for beeing too nice? Would Vulkan reject him for not burning enough unarmed children?

[@macewindu3492]

He and Vulkan would have a hugging competition. No one would die, but many ribs would be broken

[@Scp-682-]

Bro that was a one time thing and Vulcan had a really really bad day

[@human6310]

@@Scp-682- He was really sorry about it!!!

[@XXMatt0040XX]

@@Scp-682- I get the reasoning behind it, but dammit that moment only exists to make him have a bad moment. It's like forcing a square peg in a round hole because eVeRytHinG iS AwFuUL iN 40k. Like it's GW policy no matter how bad of writing it is

[@PoorManatee6197]

@@XXMatt0040XX Its like the typical "Quick, the villain is making too much sense, make him kick a dog or something!"

[@matthewperales9912]

The sad thing about Angron and his World Eaters is that in the book Betrayer while they were traveling to Angron's home planet it mentions that he started to interact more with the World Eaters that were with him on the Conqueror, eating with them watching them fight and even laughing with them. It said that in that short time he was actually closer to his legion than most of the other Primarchs. It is a sad glimpse of the way things could have been without the nails.

[@dreademperor2094]

Imagine if he didn't have the butcher's nails

[@withlovefromlightindust591]

Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.

[@solomonpachowiak106]

After reading the Primarchs series of books I realized that most of them were actually good dudes before their respective tragedies. Angron could have been great, but they drove the Nails into him, twisting him into something horrible.

[@crimsonwolf866]

Corvus definitely has that mercenary boss vibes with his son's. That overall respect but not that much worship. They just see him as the right guy to get shit done and are able to lead them properly as well.

[@bogdanlevi]

"City of light", the third Mephiston book, can provide some insight into the court of the Crimson King in the current 40k era. It is described as "ever in flux" with never-ending backstabbing scheming BS done by the sons in order to gain Magnus' favour, only to lose it on a whim later.

[@goldstandard8107]

This is a perfect representation of the servants of Tzeentch

[@_easyconcept]

@@goldstandard8107 Not the Thousand Sons though, most of the Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons aren't corrupted by Chaos, Ahriman included.

[@pettit888]

You should do a video on the immaterial college. Loyalist and traitor marines working together against the king in yellow.

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

The King In Yellow? You mean C..... Nevermind, no spoilers 😏

[@henrypaleveda7760]

What is this?

[@pettit888]

@@henrypaleveda7760 its from the 2nd bequin book. Lead by a thousand sons sorcerer and also has a dark angel, night lord, iron hand, iron warrior, and a raven guard. They are fighting against other traitor marines, the king in yellow, and the inquisition.

[@themos9751]

Think you could do a series where you go through each legion and talk about how they view every other legion and their primarch? Also how their views of other legions changed before and after the other legions were reunited with their primarchs (Notably blood angels)

[@zodaloo9303]

Great video, but you forgot to mention that Corvus' relationship to his Legion wasn't entirely positive. More specifically, he was mostly positive towards marines recruited from Deliverance, his home world. The original Terran marines however had a much rougher relationship as they weren't his ideal nor desired marines. So he technicalle exiled most of them to the far reaches away from him, which caused them to go traitor, IIRC.

[@hmsrenown7801]

Hey Majorkill, maybe you could do the different warships of the imperial navy. It would be kinda cool

[@justinweber4977]

Every Legion: We wish we were Salamanders...

[@mthandazosiziba7344]

Dame son two videos two days in a row your putting in the work son, not to mention everything else you got going on. It's inspiring, remember to rest when you can ❤

[@carlosalbertosimba6893]

Hey Majorkill! Could you do a video discussing which one of the chaos gods was more influential/did more during the Heresy? Thank you!

[@henrypaleveda7760]

Perturabo. I know he’s a primarch but that’s the answer.

[@BeforeThisNovember]

Tzeentch

[@fallstar7013]

6:34 that accent just made my entire day man

[@whitlocktherevanchist5236]

I feel like the death guard still being one of the more held together traitor Legion with mortarian has a whole lot more to do with people who are not servants of nurgle desperately not wanting to be in the same solar system as servants of nurgle. I mean once you're a tentacled stinky decaying poop stain of a person, the only people who wanna be hour friend are other tentacled stinky decaying poop stain people. I can picture a death guard who has one too many cancerous tentacles trying to befriend abaddon and even abaddon being like ".........nope".

[@arnaudboisse-malervergne3133]

I'm listening to the the Lion: Son of the forest. I got to say the way the Lion calls the fallen his sons is cute a fuck. Especially when he meets Bors and he struggles to hide his smile and joy in order to remain focus on a battle. Kind of reminding me of my own father actually

[@alphariusomegon404]

Seeing how the relationships between Father's and Son's were and evolved explained a lot of why things turned out like they did. A Group without leadership is losing itself, a Leader without the support of his group will crumble under his role. The Son's needing their Father like he needs them.

[@DefensiveMAN]

Can you do a video on what would have happened if the imperium didn’t become ultra religious and xenophobic after the emperor’s‘’ascension’’

[@ladosdominik1506]

I mean Chaos would have bodied the emperor in the warp and wrecked the Imperium.

[@aniketbiswas7660]

Nah even a thousand years after when the imperium's still was not religious Emps was holding out no issue. The golden thrones is actually making him pykically more powerful

[@robling1937]

I think part of the satire of the setting is that the religious zealotry and xenophobia is both necessary for survival fo mankind, but is also the main cause of nearly all their issues. It points out that fascism (more specifically theocratic fascism) can make for a strong movement, but will ultimately lead to more issues than it solves.

[@ladosdominik1506]

@@aniketbiswas7660 If you say, no issue, thats a massive stretch, the Empire was able to be normal because the Primarchs werw fighting there. By the end of the thousand years they were all gone, and if the Imperium would have had to face shit more, they would have been bodied.

[@domc9801]

Probably would have been destroyed since that’s kind of what saved them during the siege, giving people something to hold onto as well as power to the emperor through their prayer.

[@Its_Cannon]

Spacewolf: "Jarl Russ, you're acting like a little whelp. Drink this *Slams a giant Primarch sized mug of Fenrisian Ale* you're not yourself when you're sober. Leman Russ: *Chugs* Spacewolf: Better? Leman Russ: *slams the table and laughs* Better.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Lion calling his sons “little brothers” is surprisingly cute. Just adds more credence to my theory that the Primarchs were all sentimental as hell deep down, they just hid it well. Maybe Lemen keeps the skull of his Wolf-mom on a chain at his belt, so she can be with him forever as he sails across the stars. Maybe Magnus keeps an ancient book, not even one of psychic knowledge; merely an old story told to a small child by a man who had never dreamed of being a father. Lorgar definitely has a tattered old set of robes belonging to the tribe that found him on Colchis, before Kor Phaeron showed up. Those people were good to him, and I find it hard to believe that a superhuman would just “forget” that, when their memories are supposed to be flawless.

[@kgp277]

This video made me realize all the primarchs embody the facets of masculinity. Dorn, the dad figure. Sanguinius, the perfect son. Russ, the irresponsible fun and true brother. Fulgrim, lust and chasing skirts etc.

[@RamonChiNangWong078]

I remember that funny moments when Guilliman returns What they Ultra Marines did to his personal room.

[@simondemoulin5815]

Let me guess : a shrine in his honor ? But seriously, what did they do ? I just remember reading that he aknowledge the battle outside his shrine, nod to a heavily wounded ultramarine, maybe pick his gun and go out.

[@THExRISER]

Interesting, many Space Marine-Primarch relationships seem to mirror that of the Primarch and their father, such as Perturabo and the Khan.

[@thesilentone13]

“Asking my girlfriend what she thinks about every primarch and their legion”

[@jewsheisty8133]

A video on each primarchs reaction to chaos and demons would be sick

[@minhducnguyen9276]

Warhounds:"I will be anything you want me to be " Angron:"I want you dead! "

[@Mrdrago1990]

Who would be your ideal cast for a film about the emperor and primarchs

[@eldritchnight957]

Please do a video on all the living saints

[@jikjikrodriguez]

??No mention on how Corvus Corax despised some of his Terran born Astartes so much that he banished them to the Outer Rim to forever roam the Void in Nomad Predation Fleetsto kill the enemies of the Imperium before they could enter the Galaxy. I'm sure that Arkhas Fal and the Ashen Claws aren't too keen on Corax, and the Carcharodons probably respect Corax but IDK. I'd imagine that all of them would be a bit testy after being forgotten for 10K Years. Corax didn't even call them back for the Horus Heresy but one could argue that Corax probably that they went traitor or rogue like the Ashen Claws. Hell, he would probably be shocked to see how loyal the Carcharodons are.

[@lorenloiselle1733]

Man sometimes I forget you have a girlfriend

[@lykos2738]

You were really charitable with Lorgar and the Word Bearers. After Monarchia and Erebus introducing the legion to Chaos, Lorgar didn't really seem to care about anything other than learning about the Chaos gods, and inversely Lorgar became nothing but a means to an end for most of his legion who just wanted gifts of Chaos or actual daemonic possession. But there was also a weird sub group of WB that were just completely disillusioned with Lorgar. They knew he was completely broken and that they were stuck with him. There's a line in The First Heretic I think where a Word Bearer says "We are no longer the bearers of the word. We now bear only Lorgar". Plus I can't remember where I think I learned this but out of all the legions wasn't genetic loyalty strongest in the WB? Like I swear that's the reason given as to why there were no loyalist Word Bearers. They literally could not defy Lorgar's will.

[@TheSniperGTO]

Ironic that my Majorkill Lord of the Night mini arrived today, the day after he announced they would all be pulled.

[@deathmachineable]

Another reason why Mortarion's relation with the Death Guard even after the HH is somewhat positive aka. more unified than the other traitor legions (besides being a Jack of all Trades, a solid commander and caring for his sons to the point of surrendering to Nurgle to save them): During the Crusade era, he did conduct a certain ritual pretty often, he randomly selected a death guard legionnaire, set a pair of bowls as cups, thus called "The Cups", filled it up with Emperor knows how many kinds of ungodly toxins and poisons and then shared the poison cocktails like a private drink sharing session. This actually made their bond better compared to the other traitor Primarchs (Looking at you Perty!).

[@kassuhei]

The 11th primarch got me so good. Ths is why i love this channel, no brakes only gas!

[@aguywithalotofopinions412]

When Guilliman made a joke about paperwork and the marine with him was like ''wtf'' I burst out laughing

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

Morty:*casually enjoying his vacation with his sons* Typhus and his daemonic friends:

[@albioncia]

I csn imagine corvus playing a prank with his sons by using his invicibility hack and surprising his sons at the most unexpected and funny moment

[@Visor3410]

Well to be fair Iron Hands did start a struggle for command after Ferrus' death. Meduson was basically betrayed by his own second in command and all in all a lot of those remaining captains were trying to climb over each other to gain command.

[@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven]

Lord DaDornable is the most wholesome but strict father.

[@Average_M05_Enjoyer]

Angron loved his children like he was casey anthony

[@TheWarmachine375]

Konrad Curze hated his own Night Lords Legion because most of its ranks are composed of criminals from Nostramo. Said Nostramo fell back into crime and anarchy because Konrad failed to leave behind a strong and stabilized government that follows his set of strict rules and laws when he became its ruler.

[@zeropsaft]

Reasonably hate his legion

[@kodak5678]

Been wondering about this for a while

[@ThunderQuack777]

A dark angels model would really improve my relationship with the major minis

[@horusluprecal1144]

I'm thinking he's trying NOT to get sued by GW at this point. He did discontinue several items recently. Probably got the C & D order from lawyers.

[@ThunderQuack777]

It's still be sick as hell tho I mean he's got an iron warrior mini so why nor a dark angel

[@dakotalange2858]

Hey Majorkill how about a video over how many legions it would take to beat a combined imperial fist and iron warriors team up, idk have the location at terra and them protecting the emperor but no custodians like a simulation war game or something

[@tankster99]

I don’t think there was anything wrong with the way Jaghatai handled his relationship with his legion. After Ulanor I think it was(last time the lunar wolves fought alongside the scars.) the commander of the wolves convinced a drunk hassic to join him and his warrior lodge and corrupted him and he in turn started to corrupt the scars. That’s just my take after relistening to the white scar book series. As prior to that meeting hassic had a very good understanding of his Khagen desires and moral compass.

[@alt-monarchist]

You failed to mention that Corvus Corax hated his Terran born sons and sent them into exile for no Effing Reason

[@gamerentertainer3809]

Another great vid keep up the work

[@Pimpology101]

Dude you’ve steadily become my fav youtuber. This is my go-to when I’m doing shit and I want something 40k running in the back. Very nicely done mate.

[@bplenzner]

I know that the current Imperium has problem with thinking outside of the box, but to me making new, uncortupted Astartes from gene-seed of traitor Primarchs is something worth considering (I know it is done to an extent). Traitor Primarch are current mostly demons so I doubt there is any "biological attraction" to their Primarch. I mean World Eaters only got crazy since Angron gave them replicas of Butcher Nails. But new ones should be more like pre-Angron War Hounds. And this could be applied to most traitor Legions (Dusk Raiders, Iron Warriors etc.) with the exception of Alpha Legion (not trust-worthy) and Night Lords (always were crazy).

[@joshrobins130]

Well, there is precedence for it with the Blood Ravens (Thousand Sons) and Minotaurs (I believe they're descended from Iron Warriors).

[@pajurr]

Nice video ! The intro says it all : cmon it's kinda the same, you have like 3 types of relationship and voilà. By the way, I did not skip the sponsored part for once (please add a logo or something in this section) : lmao there are 16 products in front of your girl x) Have a good day

[@krimzonstriker7534]

Hmm, thought there would be more discussion about Corvus' tenser relationship with the Terran-born members of his legion given many of them were exiled or went rogue during and after the heresy.

[@impersonal6650]

I always liked that the Salamanders are the friendliest space marines in 40k, while looking like literal imps.

[@JIMT412]

Majorkill, knowing how Perturabo, Konrad and Angron were despite by their legions, why the Legions didn't rebel against them?

[@hamanu666]

Genetics and battered wife syndrome. The more they are abused by their primarch the more they try to please him to find acceptance.

[@silversurfer8818]

´You have....broken my heart´. Garros eyes darkened. ´I would have done everything for you, Mortarion. If only you had not betrayed us. But you have become the lie, and led my brothers to ruin! You are the thing you always swore to hate and revile! You deceived yourself and the legion pays the price!´ P: 120-121

[@ironic4910]

The space wolf impression killed me😂

[@eickengelson8120]

Alpha Legion after learning about alpharius death (circa 30 k) :"but hes literally me".

[@chillanfly3893]

"On the flip side, when his legion thought he was dead, they were also mentally unwell" lmao

[@hvcskmagyar]

Not the salamanders feeling like: maaannn i don't wanna fight anymore, after vulkan's death

[@joeyabbott3201]

I'm just getting into 40k. I'm in over my head in lore. Didn't realize what I was getting myself into

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

0:27 cough cough emperors children

[@ilasior4496]

The traitors of the White Scars didnt commit self-unalivement cause of shame, but of honor. When they decided to go against the emperor they made their most sacred vow to do so. After they were caught Jaghatai gave all of them a chance to renounce the vow and be welcomed back, but every single one turned it down - they made their vow, and they would never break it.

[@stripeybag6977]

Corvus and Alpharious Tsunderes confirmed.

[@17joren]

I imagine Terran-borns would also feel different than those from each primarch’s planet.

[@Ronfost89]

10:57 Kharn would beg to differ

[@nahhfam7678]

I'm sad konrad got killed off. I wanted a weird arc where he goes so crazy that he goes full circle and becomes a vigilante again but on a galactic scale as it was the only thing he found purpose doing. He could go after anyone at any time with no rhyme or reason; a corrupt imperial Governer, cultists, daemons he does not care what they are aligned to, only that they are guilty.

[@300SonsofOdin]

They want to get on their knees and pray to the Emperor, blessed be his name!

[@camostrike4395]

The relationship between Lionel Johnson and his marines is part of the reason y I play them and also how they don’t trust people

[@snowdawn]

Awesome lore video as always man

[@revenanlone8974]

I just still dosnt understand why Dusk Raiders was given Mortarions genseed when Jaghatais would be match made in heaven by my opinion.

[@dantesapprentice4581]

I suddenly realised Corvus is Corvo from Dishonored, but... bigger. And now I can't unsee that.

[@gimpylove7451]

Good morning from 'murika, majorkill. Hope youre having a good day or night.

[@bluenine85]

I had no idea about the story of the spear being thrown away, but you can't beat a primarch playing fetch with his sons

[@pentacosttb2565]

Magnus thinks he rejected the Emperor's offer to be redeemed in exchange for his sons being culled. However Vulkan remembers it as Magnus offering his Legion up as he begged the Emperor for forgiveness. Both may be correct. Causality is a bit fucky wucky at the best of times with Magnus and The Emperor, let alone during the Seige of Terra.

[@NoahRand-k1w]

0:27 the emporer is always watching

[@notribadsvault]

It’s funny that the thumbnail is Alpharious with ??? because I’m just gonna guess he has an ok relationship with his army of dudes who try their best to imitate him perfectly. I’m joking though, he does have a pretty unique relationship with his marines even without the whole imitation thing.