The Dornian Heresy EXPLAINED By An Australian | Warhammer 40k What if?

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We all know the Horus Heresy, but what if Horus stayed loyal and Rogal Dorn was the one who turned on the Emperor?
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@majorkill
@majorkill 2 жыл бұрын
I could have just renamed this video "What if Rogal Dorn went Bald" and it would more or less be the exact same To see an Imperial Fist's Bald Eagle go here : www.patreon.com/majorkill
@supersaiyandiclonius3056
@supersaiyandiclonius3056 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE these fanfics. Hope to see more.
@mut-x8k
@mut-x8k 2 жыл бұрын
My god majorkill why did this video take so long? I have been waiting for this subject forever!
@darklordmalthric9814
@darklordmalthric9814 2 жыл бұрын
Cover the badab war
@rro3540
@rro3540 2 жыл бұрын
Plz make a vid on the imperial guard during the Horus heresy
@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd 2 жыл бұрын
eldar exodites and corsairs please
@zakluck1686
@zakluck1686 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the Dark Angels went bad because Luther took over, not that The Lion turned. Keeping with Canon and the knowledge that the Lion would never turn traitor
@tfan2222
@tfan2222 2 жыл бұрын
Real funny seeing that the a fair bit of the loyalist art for this video are of the Lionel Hersey
@Watcher-in-the-Dark
@Watcher-in-the-Dark 2 жыл бұрын
Damn right!
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
Roboutian Heresy Lion: "Are you sure about that?"
@spikethedragon341
@spikethedragon341 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 Roboutian Heresy has hardcore Fedora-tippin Atheist Lorgar, while Dornian Heresy Lorgar is the same religious nut, Lectitio-Divinatus Thumping Lorgar who has no Kor Phaeron to later corrupt him, all while the Emprah merely told him to stop praying all the time because even Gods need some privacy and quiet from time to time. More in line with canon Lorgar.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
@@spikethedragon341 Roboutian Heresy Lorgar is the best variant of Lorgar
@RichterBelmont2235
@RichterBelmont2235 2 жыл бұрын
The way Vulkan turns to chaos is the perfect analogue to some African proverbs that said something along the line of "A child that is unable to find warm in his village will burn it down just to feel it"
@indrickboreale7381
@indrickboreale7381 2 жыл бұрын
And he has a lot of fire
@RichterBelmont2235
@RichterBelmont2235 2 жыл бұрын
@@indrickboreale7381 Commander Boreale - Enemy forces in our perimeter
@indrickboreale7381
@indrickboreale7381 2 жыл бұрын
@@RichterBelmont2235 Where?
@RichterBelmont2235
@RichterBelmont2235 2 жыл бұрын
@@indrickboreale7381 Southern Quadrant, but they were on the move. Current location unknown
@indrickboreale7381
@indrickboreale7381 2 жыл бұрын
@@RichterBelmont2235 There is no time to be lost. Battle Brothers! Space Marines - today the enemy is at our door. We know our duty, and we will do it. We fight for our honor as Blood Ravens, as Space Marines ... and we fight in the name of the Emperor! And if we die this day we die in glory. We die heroes deaths ... but we shall not die. No! It is the enemy who will taste death and defeat. As you know... Most of our Battle Brothers are stationed in space, prepared to deep strike. Our perimeter has been prepared in the event that our enemies should be so bold and so foolish. We have placed numerous beacons, allowing for multiple, simultaneous, and devastating defensive deep strikes. The Codex Astartes names this maneuver Steel Rain. We will descend upon the foe, we will overwhelm them ... we will leave none alive. Meanwhile, our ground forces will ensure the full defense of our headquaters. We are the Space Marines! We are the Emperor's Fury!
@io2900
@io2900 2 жыл бұрын
So loyalist Angron is basically Sanguinius in canon? And beside the pain glove, another reason why Rogal Dorn turns to Chaos is because big E make the "taco tuesday" real
@bplup6419
@bplup6419 2 жыл бұрын
Taco Tuesday is on Friday. *ALL HAIL THE POWERS OF COHAS!*
@robberyproductions1363
@robberyproductions1363 2 жыл бұрын
Sanguinius wanted the Burger
@ismaeljimenez6562
@ismaeljimenez6562 2 жыл бұрын
@@robberyproductions1363 HERETIC BUGAR
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
@@ismaeljimenez6562 Flesh Eaters chapter: "Our true purpose is clear! Eat! EAT! *BURGER!!!"*
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
@@ismaeljimenez6562 They are high on Ork mushrooms
@jslrnzrbntn
@jslrnzrbntn 2 жыл бұрын
I love the concept art of Jaghatai as a Slaaneshi centaur. Fuckin epic. The Ultramarine armor with Tau technology and the Imperial Fist becoming the Black Legion while the Luna Wolves turn to the Black Templars. Lorgar's story was the best when his faith was so strong he literally lit up, purged corruption in a citywide radius then died peacefully.
@garberasandor9699
@garberasandor9699 2 жыл бұрын
And Kor Phaeron died in the process of becoming a space marine.
@thespecter6416
@thespecter6416 2 жыл бұрын
@@garberasandor9699 But what about that dickweed Erebus?
@memesofwarhemmer7076
@memesofwarhemmer7076 2 жыл бұрын
@@thespecter6416 Erebus decided not to kill kid Erebus rather become friends after he died he became a monk who decided to serve lorgar as his most loyal son so humble he was he died sacrificing himself . Erebus is not his true name is just the name a kid he killed in canon and stolen his name here is more like self sacrifice more like calgar lol.
@lordhamster9452
@lordhamster9452 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, instead of a pink on pink RapeSnake, we are getting pink and white SpeeeeedFreeekTaur. Sound very cool and horrifying at the same time. Tau-teched Ultramar is also pretty smart and cool.
@jslrnzrbntn
@jslrnzrbntn 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordhamster9452 i also saw some art where instead of him wielding his White Tiger Dao, his dominant arm is a demon tentacle blade
@brae9271
@brae9271 2 жыл бұрын
I could see a loyalist Angron being really nuanced with how he deals with his rage and empathy. I'd love to see it 🥲
@flamingmuffin666
@flamingmuffin666 2 жыл бұрын
Even in a loyalist switch, the lion is loyal. He can’t be turned, only delayed. Although, I’m immensely interested in what Warp shenanigans the Lion would wreck upon the immaterium.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
*looks at Roboutian Heresy Lion, Daemon Primarch of Tzeentch* Yeah, about that.
@aguy3082
@aguy3082 2 жыл бұрын
Loyalty is it's own reward.
@nick_a91
@nick_a91 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 coolest daemon primarch design, imo
@theonethesequel
@theonethesequel 2 жыл бұрын
There's also the Lionel Heresy where you'll never believe who is the Warmaster on this one.
@mitchelrowe6915
@mitchelrowe6915 2 жыл бұрын
And oh boi can he be delayed... Been like 10000 years now...
@MiguelSanchezDelVillar
@MiguelSanchezDelVillar 2 жыл бұрын
I love the detail of how each legion changed, is not just they switch places, is an exploration of each primarchs personalities. I love It 10/10 would read It again
@williamstott1391
@williamstott1391 2 жыл бұрын
I screamed so loud when angron died Rest In Peace
@dragonstormx
@dragonstormx 2 жыл бұрын
I like how these alternate heresy ideas like this and Roboutian Heresy actually seem to put more thought into some of the characters than canon does.
@williamstott1391
@williamstott1391 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonstormx yeah I mean I don’t know why gw doesn’t realize some of their motives are crap for characters
@dragonstormx
@dragonstormx 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamstott1391 Some characters were envisioned as being more one note and writers have tried to flesh out, except sometimes they don't notice an obvious fix. One idea I saw suggested for Angron in canon was the Emperor does offer to help him and Angron refuses wanting to die along with his comrades. And Perturabo has the issue of writers giving him opposite characterizations.
@williamstott1391
@williamstott1391 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonstormx * cough* angron *cough *
@cosmicwooloo
@cosmicwooloo 2 жыл бұрын
Loyalist magnus would be cool for cannon timelines
@chronosmyass7226
@chronosmyass7226 2 жыл бұрын
It would pretty much be the end of the lore cos magnus could sit in the throne instead of the emperor and well.....
@jackmack4181
@jackmack4181 2 жыл бұрын
Wait would that mean magnus did everything right or wrong
@frankdecron1306
@frankdecron1306 2 жыл бұрын
He gets killed super early on by traitor Russ, who becomes a daemon prince of Khorne. Edit: I was thinking of the theoreticus heresy by 40k Theories. Here’s a link to that kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6myfoh5m713ndk. It’s a fan reverse heresy. They both have Dorn as warmaster and going traitor. Russ and the space wolves go traitor and attack prospero. In the Dornian Hersey he escapes, in the other he is beheaded.
@ChillAssTurtle
@ChillAssTurtle 2 жыл бұрын
If he was loyal thered be no fight.. he and empy would giga cuck the entire heresy in 17 hours
@aumlout5816
@aumlout5816 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankdecron1306 you're thinking of the theoreticus heresy I think.
@adventarchivist5789
@adventarchivist5789 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly wouldn't mind seeing videos like this and others in the future. It's surprising how much the Warhammer fanfic community gets so overlooked and should get more attention.
@Jack-0-lantern
@Jack-0-lantern 2 жыл бұрын
This might be a bit too big for him but it would be awesome if he checked out the fan made audio dramas, "Star wars vs Warhammer 40k" by "AFanWithTooMuchTime". His fan series is absolutely incredible 👏.
@pleaseenteranamelol711
@pleaseenteranamelol711 Жыл бұрын
And the fanart is so fucking awesome. Loyalist angron and kurze were so cool.
@epithed-boi4961
@epithed-boi4961 2 жыл бұрын
*Time traveler moves a rock* The Dorian heresy occurs instead of the Horus heresy
@DarkApostleNoek
@DarkApostleNoek 2 жыл бұрын
That rock was to be broken down and eventually become part of a wall that Dorn was making thus leaving it unfinished.
@Rogue.Rainbow
@Rogue.Rainbow 2 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see an animated video of Loyalist Angron fighting the traitors to a last stand kind of like how Noble Six fought on Reach but with chain axes and shit tons of more blood.
@TimeCircleBlue
@TimeCircleBlue 2 жыл бұрын
Current Objective: Survive
@synergy8879
@synergy8879 2 жыл бұрын
bruh the last thing i want to engage is a loyalist, sane angron. mans gonna smack you so hard you turn into a mist.
@SapoWeonN300
@SapoWeonN300 Жыл бұрын
@@synergy8879 Imagine a Loyalist Angron and Ferrus Fighting TOGETHER. My god, i am seeing the blood of the idiots that try to break that duo
@synergy8879
@synergy8879 Жыл бұрын
@@TimeCircleBlue imagine being a traitor charging and suddenly seeing angron turn around with chain axes ready
@NicPTheMeme
@NicPTheMeme Жыл бұрын
@@TimeCircleBlue more like 'Current Objective: Pyrrhic Victory'
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
4:16 That means Rogal Dorn's hand saved his life by detaching itself with the Magic Pain Glove from his arm
@yaphongjie8551
@yaphongjie8551 2 жыл бұрын
your services are no longer required
@papacheese6431
@papacheese6431 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaphongjie8551 they were no longer required
@Skorpian657
@Skorpian657 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite of the alternate heresy stories is the Renegade Saga, which pits a chaos emperor against Horus and other loyalist primarchs. It's not a 1 for 1 swap, as many traitors remain loyal to the emperor and chaos, while some do not.
@darthjekyll3648
@darthjekyll3648 2 жыл бұрын
Suggest and tweet this
@Kobble03
@Kobble03 2 жыл бұрын
I really love the designs and art for the reverse primarchs, they all look really good. And I never thought I'd see the day that Majorkill would say he liked Angron and that he shouldn't be aborted
@Type_3_Screamer
@Type_3_Screamer 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love a video on each legion on how you think they could fall or how you think they'd behave as loyalist
@DarrinSK
@DarrinSK Жыл бұрын
I gotta say I always thought the iron hands were kind of boring. But this xeno traitor origin vs just chaos taint traitor twist version of them is insanely cool and interesting
@agentiq007
@agentiq007 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, i had no idea that the taco conflict coused by Rogal Dorn in a TTS podcast had so much lore!
@MrDorkbot
@MrDorkbot 2 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about that scenario too ever since I was some fanart of guilleman as the warmaster. Personally I came to the conclusion that if Sanguinius had fallen to Khorne (as he almost did in canon) the imperium would have just lost. I also just really think Loyalist Angron would have been so much better than chaos Angron. Traitor Guilleman would also have just been in a better position than Horus, Horus had his entire legion but Guilleman would have the entirety of Ultramar and all its resources/sacrifices.
@snip105
@snip105 2 жыл бұрын
It is definitely a interesting topic to question “what if”. For I have always liked that multiverses idea.
@patrickgarrett6475
@patrickgarrett6475 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a video about the incident where the creation of the Codex Astartes nearly led to another civil war among the remaining loyalists after the Horus Heresy.
@FenrirKyuubi
@FenrirKyuubi 2 жыл бұрын
Ya know, honestly never read the PDF, I have however, MANY times, listened to the Theoreticus Heresy done by Remleiz of 40k theory which for the longest time I thought WAS just him doing an audio version of the Dornian Heresy(given Dorn becomes the Arch Traitor in that one too) and I absolutely loved it(as evidenced by the multiple times I've listened to it.) Give it a listen you ever get the chance Major, that aside now I'ma' have to give the original Dornian Heresy a read when I've the time. But yeah give Theoreticus a listen, just as detailed and amazingly played off well. That aside thanks Major now I have ANOTHER reading project for when I finally have time off >.
@nicolasgodines1129
@nicolasgodines1129 2 жыл бұрын
Majorkill has bad blood with 40k Theories and tries his best to ignore their existence, so he probably won't read it. But If you like it, no shame in that.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasgodines1129 What happened between them?
@mishimamaster1845
@mishimamaster1845 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 they were both partners irl and 40k theories guy cheated on him basically
@FenrirKyuubi
@FenrirKyuubi 2 жыл бұрын
I was unaware of this now I feel bad for the mentioning >.< apologies
@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745
@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745 2 жыл бұрын
@@mishimamaster1845 cheated with who
@pedrobastos8132
@pedrobastos8132 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool ideas, especially how the ultramarines and the dark angels were treated, but on the other hand I didn't like Salamanders and Blood Angels ended up, felt kinda weak, really. IMO, the Blood Angels should be the ones to turn to Khorne. See, maybe the Emperor found out about that the Blood Angels had their, ahem, "defects", and Sanguinius, fearing that him and his sons would end up like the lost primarchs, ran away from the crusade, maybe ending up in the eye of terror (almost like Lorgar did) and then fully embracing their rage in Khorne's name. Although I really like Vulkan's deformed appearance making him kinda hated by everyone else, I think that the author reaaaally missed the opportunity to make the Salamanders the Nurgle legion: they are ugly, they are hated, they are resilient, and deep down they just wanted to be hugged, right? So, who else, if not Papa Nurgle, would embrace them? Right???? As a bonus, I would go out of the way and say, fuck it, let the Space Wolves be the Tzeentch legion: say they were tired of being the Emperor's lapdogs and, you know, wanted the *change* (you see what I did there?) things up and become their own bosses and finally, finally get to beat up the Thousand Sons on their own. Dorn wouldn't even try to convert them, he would just look at this slighty different Burning of Prospero and think "well, thanks I guess 👍", that would also explain how Magnus wouldn't get in the Golden Throne too, as a loyal Magnus wouldn't be able to ask for Tzeentch's help when Russ was about to kill him. Later on, as the space wolves become some sort of early Red Corsairs and hide themselves in the Eye of Terror (or the Maelstrom, I don't know), Tzeentch gets to mutate them like crazy, think of something like a chaosy curse of the Wulfen, and then Leman Russ would try something dumb and end up getting lost in Tzeentch's labyrinth for the rest of the timelime while his sons keep becoming weird half bird half werewolf monsters and tearing up anyone that gets on their way. Kinda of a crazy idea I guess, but it would somewhat fit in with the Tzeentch vibe of tricking people into submission. EDIT: I could also see Lorgar involved in the Age of Apostasy a few millennia down the line, and also, what happened to Malcador? Are there Grey Knights in this version of the universe? If the Iron Hands get to mess with the Void Dragon, do they make the Necrons wake up a few millennia earlier?
@starhammer5247
@starhammer5247 2 жыл бұрын
This is one I've seen around. I like how this went. Especially how the Lion was always loyal, he was just blindsided by Luther as he was previously. All of this is cool, and I'm curious to see it.
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 2 жыл бұрын
Ahah spartan are still weak af
@starhammer5247
@starhammer5247 2 жыл бұрын
@@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 I'm sorry, what? The hell are you talking about?
@Mugthraka
@Mugthraka 2 жыл бұрын
The Dornian Heresy was a community work done by the Bolter&chainswords forums back in the late 2000's Each entries for each legion was redacted and presented in the style of the Chapter Approved articles about the various Legions and Chapters from the early 2k's and 3rd/4th Ed era. These where also supplemented by Illustrations from the site most talented members(that you can see in the vid and find in the pdf) and even Models and paint schemes.
@FrozenPyro06
@FrozenPyro06 Жыл бұрын
I feel like a nurgle corrupted sanguinius would be more headstrong and wanting to charge straight into the enemy because he would be super hard to kill, letting Perty set up an elaborate trap to get the upper hand instead of getting dead
@Butter_Warrior99
@Butter_Warrior99 2 жыл бұрын
MAJORKILL LIVES! STOMP STOMP!
@TheSecondPrimarch
@TheSecondPrimarch 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 6:45 Loyalist Angron is probably one of my favorite "what ifs" in 40k...
@forpetessake8123
@forpetessake8123 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the blood angels turning to knorne makes more sense …
@redeye4516
@redeye4516 2 жыл бұрын
Something I found interesting with the DH Sanguinius is that he was taken in by the flesh-eating mutants rather than the pure humans, which is something that influenced Sanguinius as he saw himself more clearly as he was: a mutant. I think even in canon he mentions that he was so far removed from the human form because he was a hexapod (two arms, two legs, two wings, six limbs total). Another thing with the Blood Angels is that these mutants on Baal Secundus ended up becoming Astartes instead of the pure humans, who Sanguinius had wiped out. In Magnus's case, he ended up discovering Chaos before the Emperor told him, and realized their nature before they could trick him. At Nikea, rather than openly arguing for the use of sorcery, Magnus was quiet and when called on suggested to the Emperor that he and his legion become soulbound to the Emperor, rendering them immune to Chaos corruption but physically blind. However, they use specialized sensors in their armor as well as psychic powers to see for them, giving them greater visibility overall, and their loyalist appearance features somewhat uncanny eyeless helmets.
@Its_Cannon
@Its_Cannon 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget, in this scenario, Horus had beautiful and majestic hair. Horus and Fulgrim would go to the Custodes beauty salon on Terra.
@purpledevilr7463
@purpledevilr7463 9 күн бұрын
A Chaos Sanguinius could frankly fight Khorn on a frightenly close footing.
@arpiedra5100
@arpiedra5100 2 жыл бұрын
This feels so refreshing! I had not realised how bored i was listening to the same story with small diferences. This actually feels like something new in 40k, which is rare
@Badchi
@Badchi 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a small outtake where Dorn talks to the dark gods through his pain glove, the dark gods wanted and probably could turn Perturabo to their side, but Dorn said: it's either him or me.
@edpistemic
@edpistemic 2 жыл бұрын
The most massive difference would be the completed web way! I can't believe you didn't talk about that more... or does the PDF suggest it wasn't t finished when Emps became a spectral vegetable and no one else was capable of doing it? What about Magnus?
@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745
@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745 2 жыл бұрын
If i remember correctly Magnus entered the webway post heresy, came out less and less from it as time goes on then basically disappeared, never to be seen again.
@ttv_swincher8004
@ttv_swincher8004 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel and you’ve been the biggest reason I’ve got into warhammer 40k
@w1ldc422
@w1ldc422 2 жыл бұрын
Necron iron hands look so cool that color and design is amazing
@vergiltheartofpower6616
@vergiltheartofpower6616 12 күн бұрын
Guilliman being an heretic would be terrifying his logistics prowess definitely would carry on
@Voodoo-420
@Voodoo-420 2 жыл бұрын
This would be an amazing TTS spinoff
@zacharyweaver276
@zacharyweaver276 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like a video on Rogal Dorn's magic pain glove because I have no idea what it does except helping to guide him and causing pain.
@saipranavpalla1467
@saipranavpalla1467 2 жыл бұрын
Orkish time traveller: *Helps Angron* The timeline:
@aconcernedcommissar6261
@aconcernedcommissar6261 2 жыл бұрын
if i remember correctly in the Dornian timeline Abaddon and Sigismund switch places with Abaddon forming the black 'templars' and Sigmund forming the black legion
@haukbjrnes1733
@haukbjrnes1733 2 жыл бұрын
The first one
@terraindomitus3758
@terraindomitus3758 2 жыл бұрын
Please major make this into a series that goes into more detail about what has changed from canon.
@ajspin2642
@ajspin2642 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this very much. It is very interesting to see the "what ifs" of warhammer 40k
@nick3xtremegaming212
@nick3xtremegaming212 2 жыл бұрын
"Abaddon rebuilt the imperium" Darkest timeline unlocked
@landonmel3070
@landonmel3070 2 жыл бұрын
Never clicked so fast in my life
@trentdickerson2149
@trentdickerson2149 2 жыл бұрын
Fuckin same
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@warcat7156
@warcat7156 2 жыл бұрын
Same!!
@zeroalpha9713
@zeroalpha9713 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@antonscott1585
@antonscott1585 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Major Kill do an extended video or series on the Robutian Heresy. It's a more overreaching and expansive due to it being more of an AU rather than a straight out role-swap that Dornian is (still love both of them, but Robutian is my favorite.). It also has more expansive exploration with the time after the Horus Heresy and the Author is even writing an epic End Times to ....... I was gonna say wrap up but thats to limiting. He is writing several End Times story Archs, with tales of Glory, Despair, Tragedy and Triumph. The Robutian heresy stands at 840k words currently and 384k of those are the Index Astartes detailing the Legions origin, role during the Heresy and their state in the 41 millenium. Then he kicks of the End times tying together story hocks, unveiling mysteries from the indexes and telling a bloody epic Warhammer story. I can't recommend the Robutian Heresy enough. Also found it a bit funny that the first pic he used as he Introduced the Dornian heresy was a Khornate Imperial Fist from the Robutian heresy XD.
@rustkarl
@rustkarl 2 жыл бұрын
Feels bad for Loyal Angron. Dude went out for his sons like a good dad.
@sotheofdaein
@sotheofdaein 2 жыл бұрын
the iron hands being corrupted by the ctan rather than the chaos gods actually makes them a lot cooler than canon and is a really unique concept.
@OnlyRoke
@OnlyRoke 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but Necron-powered Iron Hands look fucking amazing.
@changer_of_ways_999
@changer_of_ways_999 2 жыл бұрын
The swaps feel wrong for most, at least for Chaos. Just in terms of theme, I feel like Nurgle is the last pick for Blood Angels. Why not just make them take the place of the Night Lords? Also, White Scars for Slaanesh makes almost no sense.
@irimiaradu-silviu5764
@irimiaradu-silviu5764 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a Traitor Sigismund in the Siege of Terra killing everything is his path and a loyal Kharn confronting him and then searching afterwards the galaxy for every traitor to decapitate.
@omegon2540
@omegon2540 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of how the traitors went loyal But if it was mixed with the main cannon then i think the only traitors would be dorn, gulliman , Luther and lorgar
@alexgarcia9419
@alexgarcia9419 2 жыл бұрын
damn bro, you uploaded this fast ever since you put out that voting poll.
@feroexe7965
@feroexe7965 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine TTS but were going with the Dornian Heresy Like how would that work
@rustkarl
@rustkarl 2 жыл бұрын
Taco Tuesday
@catfoy8888
@catfoy8888 2 жыл бұрын
Guilliman would probably be the magnus of the show given he was tricked into helping dorn and he's already there on terra
@Galactus78
@Galactus78 Жыл бұрын
Angron going down like a beast is pretty cool
@VooshSpokesman
@VooshSpokesman 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you cover the Reboutian heresy which is my favorite version of the Warhammer universe.
@tomyrody4412
@tomyrody4412 2 жыл бұрын
".......Fuck you father, I won't do what you tell me." - Rogal Dorn, Heresing
@thet-bone6628
@thet-bone6628 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the Iron hands not turning to chaos but turning xenos .
@fluffy7813
@fluffy7813 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go ahead and say I have a soft spot for Angron, and the idea of him going down swinging is much more appealing. I can imagine a cool headed Angron reaping traitor astartes like grass, looking past the mounds of corpses and seeing Vulkan approach. I see a faint smile appear knowing hes drawn attention away form his sons, allowing them to fight another day. Angron would be ten times more compelling if he was a good papa. The support character we all wanted.
@GNRandSTP911
@GNRandSTP911 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of Loyalists going Traitor is cool, and always worth looking at, but I wonder if any fan fiction out there has another Traitor Primarch becoming the Arch-Traitor, like Magnus or Lorgar?
@countspankulots4024
@countspankulots4024 2 жыл бұрын
Without the constant anger and rage of the Nails, Angron desperately needs a name change. Angone? Chillgron? The Dude? Angelo?
@carcionpetto
@carcionpetto 2 жыл бұрын
i like that there were more primarchs deaths, instead of the usual " X primarch fled!" like they were pokemon or something, just to then make them disappear randomly just to tease a later comeback with big minis
@JustThreeIdiots
@JustThreeIdiots 5 ай бұрын
Fun fact for anyone who cares, the thumbnail photo for the Imperial Fist is actually from the Roboutian Heresy
@darksider2903
@darksider2903 2 жыл бұрын
A traitor Sanguinius wouldve whooped the a$$es of all other Primarch. Let alone corvax corax who can turn invisible, Vulkan and all the other loyalist primarchs were strong af. Terra wouldn't be able to last longer than 1year or less. Chaos got the bad ones
@znalniaskas
@znalniaskas 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody messing up the webway would also mean that the Emperor and the rest of the emperium could use all of it's forces against the traitors. Also, the trio of Big E, Malcador and Magnus using all of their psyker powers coordinated against chaos would be scary. The really interesting thing would be if the Emperor allowed Lorgar to spread his faith, we'd probably already have the first living saints during the siege of Terra...
@darksider2903
@darksider2903 2 жыл бұрын
@@znalniaskas you know, magnus wasn't a traitor in the first place and he didn't choose chaos willingly. He fell because he was tricked and got destroyed by Russ. So chaos would've tricked another way. That's god tzeentch. He wanted magnus and he could get him in thousands other ways if he wanted to.
@Rakanarshi2
@Rakanarshi2 2 жыл бұрын
Do more of this stuff. I like the "different universe" theme.
@michellewilt4479
@michellewilt4479 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely want to see more of these. I never got to finish the Dornian Heresy pdf when I tried to read it.
@kman2384
@kman2384 2 жыл бұрын
YESSS!! Hope you ended up cover Roubutian Heresy in the near future.
@aceofspadesguy4913
@aceofspadesguy4913 2 жыл бұрын
The simple fact that the webway wasn’t destroyed is a huge edge for the imperium.
@lewispatton6550
@lewispatton6550 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, loyalist Angron sounds dope.
@rainsoakedscribe7068
@rainsoakedscribe7068 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Sebastian Thor was a Word Bearer, and the Sisters of Battle were wiped out during the Age of Apostasy.
@LordofWrath
@LordofWrath 2 жыл бұрын
I find it more believable if Sanguinus and the blood angels fell it would be to Korne because in canon Korne has a major obsession with them, but do see how it might screw up the balance of the chaos gods each getting their own personal primarch.
@powerist209
@powerist209 2 жыл бұрын
And Emperor Text to Speech had it take place after Horus Heresy. Or rather a planetary debate over which day to celebrate Taco Day spilling over entire galaxy since Dorn wanted it Tuesday (to bring hope to masses) and Emperor wanted it Friday (to celebrate day off).
@Al-kj8rb
@Al-kj8rb 2 жыл бұрын
1st
@cosmicwooloo
@cosmicwooloo 2 жыл бұрын
What type of warp fuckery did you do to be first
@llamaboss1434
@llamaboss1434 2 жыл бұрын
I think the more interesting mirror version of the Heresy is one where the Emperor is corrupted/possessed by the Chaos gods. Then the Emperor begins corrupting the canon 'loyalist' primarchs. We have the same split in loyalties, but the entire heresy is now a rebellion with the canon 'traitor' primarchs cast as doomed and deeply flawed, but still heroic, rebels. The mad dash to Terra is an attempt to kill the Emperor and save the soul of mankind before the golden one can consolidate his forces and cannot be stopped from ritually soul-binding (or some magic malarky) all humans. If this had just been the story from the heretic side, even for a little while, it would have been pretty interesting. But that's just a propaganda hypothesis that some traitors float around early in the heresy before inviting recruits to stick their dicks in the nearest warp rifts. Instead the heretics are objectively evil pretty much straight away, and doing REALLY obviously evil things, and willingly bending over and spreading cheeks for demon cock pretty much right away.
@cosmicdropout8187
@cosmicdropout8187 10 күн бұрын
1:47 amazing, love this
@cesarerinaldi6750
@cesarerinaldi6750 5 ай бұрын
It was much better this way: Jaghatai Khan and White Scars for Nurgle, Sanguinius and Blood Angels for Slaanesh.
@purgejmi
@purgejmi 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought The Dornian Heresy was a TTS original joke all these years lol.
@zarthecelticjester1891
@zarthecelticjester1891 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see the Dornian siege of the palace animated
@chipman1589
@chipman1589 2 жыл бұрын
This timeline leaves humanity in a debatably better position with the webway being intact
@jadeimingan184
@jadeimingan184 2 жыл бұрын
Cannot wait for you to do Roboutian Hersy in the future
@quannguyenle9775
@quannguyenle9775 2 жыл бұрын
You should try sanguinius schism too, where sanguinius trade place with horus as warmaster and eventually arctraitor
@ultramarinescaptain3840
@ultramarinescaptain3840 2 жыл бұрын
I need to read the fan made heresies. I mean the Night Lords SAVING the Emperor?!? Conrad sacrificing himself to save the Imperium, Angron becoming a Martyr. Vulcan evil, Iron Hands Necron Marines. So awesome.
@IronVigilance
@IronVigilance Жыл бұрын
I woulfve thought that the blood angels would fall to Khorne
@kiankier7330
@kiankier7330 Жыл бұрын
Majorkill, you should do a video on The Fulgrimian Heresy as well
@WAcrobat19
@WAcrobat19 2 жыл бұрын
I fucking loved this Heresy's version of Blood Angels and World Eaters. I hope we could see you do more videos on this AU
@iddqd-bp5yq
@iddqd-bp5yq 2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine berserkers of Dorn, fortifying people alive in solid concrete blocks.
@FiauraTheTankGirlGamer
@FiauraTheTankGirlGamer 2 жыл бұрын
"Suffering from Male Pattern Baldness" When only two of them are bald and of that, one of them shaves his head on purpose. Nice way to say: "It's all Logar's Fault"
@TheMachine3165
@TheMachine3165 Жыл бұрын
I could see the white scars turning traitor from their coup against jaghatai being successful and essentially forcing him to turn traitor, rather than being manipulated by slaanesh. As far as guilliman goes i could see him not really turning to chaos but (as said with this videos) he wouldn’t like the state of the imperium and form his own empire, while giving support to the traitor legions due to some sort of mutua
@plasma2125
@plasma2125 2 жыл бұрын
A switch between Konrad and Corvis would have been awesome
@owenrobison7071
@owenrobison7071 2 жыл бұрын
I love the cool little alternative Heresy and I love it
@nick_a91
@nick_a91 2 жыл бұрын
If you were to do a vid(s) on Roboutian Heresy and/or Imperium Ascendant, I would lose my damn mind with joy
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
8:09 When Sanguinius became evil, he turned bald
@datrickster8674
@datrickster8674 2 жыл бұрын
Abaddon ironically goes from being one of the most hated characters to one of the most loved lol
@rheynilcalderon4246
@rheynilcalderon4246 2 жыл бұрын
I watch this video which is great and I realize that Holy Terra in canon don't have a VPN but have the best Anti-virus thanks to Rogal Dorn and others
@rheynilcalderon4246
@rheynilcalderon4246 2 жыл бұрын
can't wait for part two if any
@kingghidorah102
@kingghidorah102 2 жыл бұрын
Emperor: *moves a chair The Timeline:
@mr.pinstripe7171
@mr.pinstripe7171 2 жыл бұрын
Who animates the new major kill intro because I would really like to know since it’s just that well animated
@thehermitthetower1126
@thehermitthetower1126 Жыл бұрын
How am I just now hearing about these alt heresies? These are very cool
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