Make your Home Instance work for you! Guild Wars 2 Guide 2019-2020

0:00 Intro
0:53 Locations of Home instances
01:19 Nodes
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[@kimhyo-rin2572]

"Tiny Norns...", "Large humans..."... completely made my day

[@traderofgoods6500]

I read this first and still found it funny.

[@Li1979Ma]

Salad is a great description of the tree people 🤣

[@tensio4926]

No one gotta mention how he named the vegetable people "salads?"

[@bertoandon9681]

Kitties, salad, and best race

[@MisterNo1111]

Salad is not bad aswell😂

[@RQLexi]

For the Wintersday gift you get from the tree, you *can* sell it for a few silver a day, but I would actually recommend having a small stockpile of them to use as tips if other players help you out in some way and you don't have much gold on your person. It's always really sweet to get an unexpected present, no matter what's inside! ^^

[@ValakDhur]

Just started playing yesterday. I don't know what any thing in this video is about but lets go lol

[@ErnestTheObserver]

Same lol

[@jeremyzhang2504]

Lolol been playing gw2 for years. Tis a drug

[@przemisio1]

Lol me

[@TheAxeaman]

How has your gw2 journey gone?

[@CatKingCole82]

Have you gotten better? I just started playing and I see your comment is 1yr old

[@Remnantofagirl]

"if you prefer salad..." LOL forever calling my toon a side salad now XD

[@Amazekeen]

:p you must be new cuz this has been a running joke for ages now

[@brianz5011]

If you are new! WELCOME TO THE SALAD SQUADD! WE LOVE SALAD!

[@MrZerodayz]

I know this is late, but one thing to note regarding the LWS3 nodes: The Orrian pearl one is by far the one with the highest return, because it is guaranteed to always drop 9 Orrian Pearls. It is the only node with a fixed amount (as far as I'm aware) and drops more than all the other nodes if you average it out (maybe even on every single drop, I'm not sure). That makes it the one you should probably start with from the LWS3 nodes. Regarding LWS4 nodes, the Brandstone node is probably the one that pays for itself the fastest, due to it dropping additional powdered rose quartz. This makes it so you can craft Kralkatite Ingots decently quickly which can be used for some expensive things. (The powdered rose quartz is already worth its fair share on the TP)

[@Tragulon]

Great video, keep up the awesome content! This video caused me to get the Aurillium Node shortly after watching it, and then boom I couldn't stop myself from getting more nodes after that. Nodes, nodes, nodes... I can't stop getting more nodes to share with others. It feels so good to be able to bring someone into your home instance who doesn't know much about nodes and seeing their shock or excitement at what you have that they can just get for free. :D

[@orddan]

I've been playing for more that a year now and I didn't care about the home instance.. didn't know what to do .. why should I care about it ... I didn't even try to know ... Thanks for this video ... Its time to dust off that home instance.

[@PAPRPL]

Same same. Except I've been here since the start!

[@pergador1]

@@PAPRPL same haha more than 8 years and never went into a full home instance

[@simonkalinowski1152]

Sprockets: With 250 of those you can make a Superior Sigil of Bursting, which normally is about 6 g. :)

[@seriousmaran9414]

As I said above, if you got in very early it was over 15 gold. There is a specific gathering tool and a sigil for other tools.

[@Ireella]

Nice guide! Something that makes it easier to remember, and more convenient is the home portal stone. It allows you to go back to the previous location, and cuts down on loading time. We might see it on wintersday sales soon?

[@johnvonhorn2942]

Thanks to you and Ayin (for "no masks behind" guide) got my Aurilleum Node and Exalted Chest in my home instance (also playing as asura). I am on my way and, for that, I thank you :)

[@CoachingChaos]

This is SUCH a good video for someone like me who is just now trying to add more to the home instance. Thanks!

[@Li1979Ma]

So good guide! I just found out about the home instances like yesterday. Now I really need to get into how they work so I can get more. Got to purchase all living world seasons. I started playing gw2 in October 2019.

[@Dankflamio]

It’s so cool that I’ve been playing this game on and off for like 5 years or more and I’m still learning new things exist.

[@amFiretrash]

Just started playing gw2 after being a vegetable on gw1 for 15 years. Your guides are super helpful and straight to the point.

[@CollateralDamage90]

Yet another clear and concise video, packed with helpful information. Thank you

[@CheeseFroger]

Was gonna skip the part where you show the location of each home instance but ended up watching it 3 times. Kitties! That was sooo adorable! Never paid any attention to my home but that might change soon. I am learning so much with your guides and you always manage to make me smile. Thank you so much!

[@2Jointz]

Dude I aint even played yet and you've already taught me a lot, thank you and big sub

[@rkbkirin5975]

Needed to watch this video again as a review. There are so many elements in GW2 to track, these kind of videos are really helpful to have them organized for easy reference.

[@jeromerondeau2824]

For the sprockets, there are three rune recipes sold by the pact merchants that use them. I have one for runes of torment and it sells for a tidy profit!

[@Atomicdog-space]

That’s pretty cool about the home instance didn’t know about the mines and all these things can’t wait

[@Dragoth88]

Just a one tip for BLC nodes. If you plan to buy them off TP, check preview of current BLC to see which one may drop. Those would be the cheapest now, because players will be dropping them and selling until BLC rotates out. If you're not in a rush, this way you'll save hundred of gold

[@amospaul4231]

Thanks for this, i too had no idea about a home instance till your last video on gold making :P Ill be sure to invest in this now

[@Vietcongster]

For the Garden Plot, the best seeds to plant are the Varietal ones. They can be bought from the TP for 15-20s each, and the spices usually sell for 30s+.

[@Violetbunnyfish]

It's such a pain in the butt to do, though.

[@Mytea1]

very nice in-depth guide as always! 👍

[@EffToyz]

and your videos give me so much nostalgia, I think I gonna reinstall GW2 soon if this pesky youtube will recommend me more of your videos.

[@seriousmaran9414]

Although not directly a home instance node having a set of unbound magic gathering tools saves you a few silver from not buying tools but also gives you a bonus of extra magic from every use. Plus it will fully empty a guild hall 3 gather plant node in one hit. Well worth having. I got the sprocket ones early, made over 15 gold from each stack of sprockets early on producing sigils. It made far more than paid for buying, much less profit now though.

[@Li1979Ma]

The sprockets are used when you work on your Skyscale, you use them to create the sunlamp :)

[@bhayes3327]

I've been playing guild wars 2 off and on since 2015 and I just now found out this exists. Now I'm going to change my current main to one of my toons who's race is my favorite looking home instance lol.

[@zoelaird9990]

well thought out video and highly helpful to new players like myself and my boyfriend! thank you!

[@khymaaren]

Rata Sum counts for Maguuma Jungle region and not Heart of Maguuma, which are the Heart of Thorns maps.

[@AmorphisBob]

Guild Hall nodes count for HoT dailies if you have a HoT guild hall

[@BlinDefender]

I recently got an item from that Christmas Tree that sold for over $600 gold on the TP.

[@denarisnoctem4562]

I love your sense of humor.

[@lenaistalar8032]

I know I'm late to the party, but I really broke when I noticed he had written Salad on the bottom left when showing the grove in the beginning while for every other race he said something silly but at least wrote the correct name there xD

[@ramsesbyron2004]

That was awesome thank you!

[@miladh8749]

Duuuude... I love you for this video!!!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@GoddessHades]

Thank your for the tips!

[@theia.t]

Very helpful, thank you 🤭

[@Inf666ipi]

I myself use the Candy Corn Cobs to buy 20 slot bags for all my toons. Just a heads up!! =) Great Video!!

[@jwsykes7628]

This was a lot of info. Head spinning. Still level 30. Should not watch videos like this till I know what I’m doing

[@KamiKaZeJeremy]

quality content i like your videos

[@baileyravenwick]

Thank you so much!!

[@dave15754848]

You can go in to any home instance.

[@petrikillos]

I was gonna ask about this after seeing the last vid xdxd

[@goofbtw]

What would I do without ur guidance muk.. idk but thanks for all ur hard work lol.

[@AATproducer]

Missing the dragon pinata from the current Dragon Bash event :) I didn't get the LWS3 and 4 nodes because i though I needed unbound or volatile magic for aurora or vision. But turns out, i don't need them!

[@rhondaphillips7897]

thank for the info very helpfull

[@SilverWF]

50g+ per node - and when this will become a profit?

[@kingk.d.m4620]

Been playing guild wars 2 for like 6 years I didn’t know that we had a home instant

[@HaradarAsturies]

Same here 🤣

[@carnifex8]

I knew it but i never understood the appeal. I mean.. nodes are expensive. 1 node is 50g.. so.. to make all that gold back and start atlast making a profit u'll probably have to farm those nodes for atleast a year? Idk.. i never bothered. Try to count how much gold u have to actually spend to get all those nodes.

[@akhsdenlew1861]

@@carnifex8 well yea u make ur money back if u node it every day for 1 year pretty much. But the cool thing about home instance is that u can have ur friends benefit from it as well. For example, i am playing GW2 with 3 friends and we all invested into 1 home instance. And we gather all of us there.

[@CaedmonOS]

Just got my first node the dragon piñata

[@Eve0127]

I'm mad that I just learned about this

[@judygreenwood4696]

Thanks!

[@mrmoeezali]

So much information in one videoo... Aaaahhh I dont know so many of these items lol

[@ClearlyCry]

I love Salad!

[@xezzee]

So, the housing is not like in Wildstar that you can buy land floating in the ether and place down items as you see fit to build the thing you want and you can gather and hunt items for housing by either crafting, buying or hunting? Or how Path of Exile does the housing, similar to Wildstar but more limited. I LOVED how Wildstar allowed you to make jumping puzzles and you could visit peoples homes and were they also rated? that was amazing

[@MuklukYoutube]

You can make jumping puzzles in the guild halls in this game but not in the housing at this time.

[@SuttonSantiniPaulo]

Do the free living world episodes drop randomly because it seems to have skipped a couple in the last few months?

[@blackboard212]

im curiou muk roughly how long does it take for one of those nodes to make its cost back? i feel like its a good 5+ years for some nodes

[@JamesSmith-re8kn]

I bought for laurels, and the event is going on. So unfortunate. I was excited and didn't hear you mention that you can buy it from festival tokens. It's to late now thanks for the video regardless.

[@Fiyaaaahh]

What is the approximate return on investment on these nodes? They look very interesting, but they take a pretty decent investment and only give back a little each day.

[@justme-jq6wh]

If you buy for one home instance, then make a second character, would the upgrades also be in the second home instance?

[@MuklukYoutube]

Your home instance is account wide. So yes, any of your characters can access it. However, it is worth noting that the harvestable nodes are once per day per account. So you would usually make one trip through your home instance per day on just one toon.

[@juliewynn2093]

Awesomeness! 👍✨ Always need more gold!! You got the perfect voice to intro or narrate, have you ever look into opportunity of employment in that area? 🤔

[@MuklukYoutube]

Haha no I haven't, I work in tech support by day and stream/create content in free time currently.

[@juliewynn2093]

@@MuklukKZbin seriously think of other range of voicing that you could do, a wide range of other topics, ie. ghost stories/paranormal, true crime, etc. Just a suggestion because I love your voice. 💕

[@Serdou]

Nice one! I'm just sad because you didn't talked about the spedition. (Shitty english : Lions arch deliver a mail with an item to open -> You can choose what's inside of this mail). But forever, Asura

[@SupraSav]

Kitties and salad.. lol This is why even as an experienced player I still watch muk videos targeted at newer players.

[@1980Shadowwolf]

Working on it myself i am not likely to get the bauble thing given its a lot of work but so far got all the wood except the gems ones working on the ore next given i dont have the 5k unbound magic or other magic type. Started working on it given my Untamed ranger main has Pharus, Aurenes Weight, Ad Inf, Conflux, Aurora and Vision and Seasons of Dragons necklace so started nodes just for something to work on lol. I even got the big candy corn for my candycorn gobbler.

[@DreiSchwerterZorro]

You can get unbound or volatile magic gathering tools for karma at some heart vendors. That's gonna push your magic - and as soon you get the first one, it's slowly gonna stock up anyway over time :) Or you could consume LV3 currency for unbound magic and LV4 currency for volatile magic (you gonna need the currencies for legendary accessories and skyscale, but if you buy the nodes, eventually you gonna get the currencies back anyway) Edit: I should have read - you already got Aurora and Vision xD

[@1980Shadowwolf]

@@DreiSchwerterZorro Luckily i already got the skyswcale and their trinkets so really be just adding to own value.

[@ind13cru5ad3]

Esquire?! Oh my

[@paralysissucks1142]

As of 2022 festival of the four winds... I was able to get (for 0 gold) the sprocket generator, quarts node, airship parts node, and krait Obelisk shard[ hero challenge].

[@DreiSchwerterZorro]

Airship parts node?

[@paralysissucks1142]

@@DreiSchwerterZorro that too

[@aldenencluna6409]

Nice.

[@mattjohnson8585]

That robot at the end looks like...MOK, was it? From GW1.

[@MuklukYoutube]

Mox, and yep from gw1. He can be invited to join your home. He chills out and takes care of the cats.

[@abaddonzmuze5961]

How are you getting the volatile magic from harvesting and mining etc? Seems like you're getting alot of items, including items I haven't seen yet

[@MuklukYoutube]

Volatile magic gathering tools. They gather volatile magic every time you harvest something.

[@JSpence163]

All of the runes and sigils that use watchwork sprockets are all above 10 gold a pop

[@AnthanKrufix]

Whoa....There's timestamps IN the timeline of the video. TIL something KZbin videos can do, I've never seen this before, is it new? That'll be so useful if more people use it.

[@augustvalek]

I had no idea the krait obelisk could do that, I only used it once for the hero point :/

[@PatSlovak]

What would be the most recommended thing to plant if profit is #1 goal.

[@MuklukYoutube]

Of the seeds I have currently unlocked, Cassava is worth the most each for low effort gardening. You can also do ascended gardening with the plots you gained from gourmet training but that is a lot more work (you have to replant each day) but can be profitable.

[@wafdsjhnszfgdgjesawetr]

where is cooking station in rata home?

[@fenikslied]

Holy crap I'm a complete scrub. Here I was thinking my holiday nodes were a huge deal. I can get an exalted chest in my home instance?! WTF? I'm also working on season 4 nodes just for cheaper T6 mats...

[@Mindrex327]

Is it posable to put a Trade post in your home instance, and are home instance upgrades account wide, on all toons?

[@MuklukYoutube]

1) No, but there is one that fits in your inventory in the game, very expensive/rare item 2) account wide, all toons

[@RbDaP]

3:04 update for 2022+ players: you can get the obelisk by doing the meta achievement related to the episode of Season 1 Tower of Nightmares. The method shown here still works tho

[@knatte9]

Is the Garden Plot from Gourmet Training account bound? I have cooking on my sylvari, but I main human and my plan is to always use the human character. :)

[@MuklukYoutube]

If you unlock it it will show up in your home instance in ever city for your account.

[@BuciRadisani]

Do all of these nodes apply to the character you play with when you buy/get them or account wide?

[@MuklukYoutube]

Your whole account.

[@chadthunderjock6520]

Great guide...I might try to get all the ones that are gettable with in-game currencies. I will not be getting the 'Home Instance Node' from the gem shop as they are a total rip off.

[@thomaspama9678]

You can convert gold to gems, i just bought lw season 2 and 3 with gold by converting gold to gems

[@seriousmaran9414]

Exalted chest seems to give the best option for the free key if you don't have a key as it seems to give a rare every day. At least mine does. Remember, if you have two accounts on EU or US servers you can farm one account's nodes on the other account.

[@AliciaOnlineGameplay]

How would you do that? Can you run 2 instances of gw2 at the same time?

[@seriousmaran9414]

@@AliciaOnlineGameplay there are options, I do the simplest of using my old PC to run the owner instance (it is still good enough for 1080p and is only on to do that for about 10 minutes. The new one is running 4K on a 55 inch TV. There are options for running 2 instances of GW2 on the same computer such as GW2Launch Buddy, a batch file or virtual machine. They are all posted on the official forums. en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/25748/running-2-different-gw2-accounts-on-the-same-pc

[@xaphyreansar6996]

I've recently been interested in this (node gathering in home instance) and was wondering if it was a good investment to buy the nodes available through the Festival of the Four Winds vendors for festival currency. It seems like a good deal to me since they are not very costly and the currency is not costing me anything extra to obtain.

[@MuklukYoutube]

I already had them but I've been told it is a good deal to get them now instead of with laurels, I believe you are correct!

[@irina-ty1336]

I bought them with the festival, and it was really easy to gather the festival's money. I think it is really the better way

[@DreiSchwerterZorro]

Are you talking about the quartz nodes? Or which ones were available at the Festival of the For Winds?

[@DuilioGF]

250 Sprockets make a Rune of Tormenting, which are worth over 10g :)

[@triggerdigger2107]

how do you actually start the home node though??? i go into mine and there is nothing there, how do i get stuff there?

[@triggerdigger2107]

lol, i have watched this vid 3 times already and now I am hearing how to do it, must be dumb

[@mezi5860]

Anyone else notice when he says gathering from divinity’s reach Muk circles the black citadel? 🤔😂

[@patrickmaciel8878]

so all materials you get you sell? I have a full material storage with 2k items, but I always think "maybe I need in future". What do you recomend? I'm asking that because, the only thing I want/need in trading post is all the Permanent Contract. The rest, I do not want at all.

[@MuklukYoutube]

Usually if any material reaches 2k I sell 500 of it, keep the rest "in case I need it"

[@John_Conner222]

This is incredible. Why doesn't the game tell you about it or put it on your daily list or something. I didn't even know these instances exist. Can you choose which one you want or do you have to go with the one associated with your race?

[@MuklukYoutube]

They are all connected and share cooldowns. So if you get a copper node and mine it in the human home, you can go to the asura home and see the node there also, but already mined. You can choose which one you like to use daily.

[@John_Conner222]

@@MuklukKZbin Thank you! I started visiting the areas and saw that you could go into each. I'm a returning player. Bought the CE when the game first came out, loved the game (even did some beta videos for youtube), and the guild for some reason or another didn't stay in GW2 after we all got leveled up. The guild broke up and I went with another guild, they left, had another falling out and I kinda had it with MMO drama and quit until now. Now I just play by myself and do LFG pugs. Still never got to do the Khaitan fight and was always kinda miffed about it. I heard so many good things about it but I refused to spoil it and watch a video. Finally downloaded it again after watching Summit play it and fail pretty badly. It's been over 5 years since I stopped playing it and I had no idea the amount of content in this game, its staggering and I still haven't purchased the expansions yet but will soon. I've been watching your videos to catch up. They have been a god send. The humor is great but the info is priceless, thank you for the hard work. I think the game has TOO much going on (if that is possible in an MMO) and they need to have a "here's what you missed" tab, placed near your hotbar that flashes for new players that can be removed after you click on it. Did a world boss run the other day. Some of those world bosses I haven't even seen yet like Jormung. Was getting achieves and chests left and right. Still nothing compares to that Khaitan fight. That was just incredible and I was able to do it solo. Also lions arch rework, like wow.

[@entropicdoom8018]

Can you put a gold amount per day or week you can obtain by having all of these items in your home?

[@MuklukYoutube]

I usually use the materials myself instead of selling them so I don't have a firm number, but I'd GUESStimate a 3-5 gold per day (using the charged quartz to craft/sell something alone is worth a couple) with an occasional spike when you get a savaged excellence (the 400+ gold item)

[@Li1979Ma]

If you use the charged crystal to create skyscale food you can sell it for 5 gold per day :)

[@janmielziuk3167]

I have a question about treasure hunter achievement. When I give up gold from some item due to achievement there s no possibility to drop this item one more time and sell it?

[@MuklukYoutube]

correct, you cannot put an item that you account bound for an achievement onto the trading post. You could only vender sell it for a few coins.

[@DreiSchwerterZorro]

There was a missunderstanding I believe. The droprate of the item shouldn't be influenced when you got one earlier and accountbound it. So in theory it should be possible to drop these items multiple times (if only the droprate weren't so low xD)

[@iquaniqua]

Are home instance upgrades accouint-wide?

[@MuklukYoutube]

Yep, they are. Any of your toons, in any capital city, can access your "home".

[@assidbath94]

tiny norns....gawd dammit haha i was so triggered typing for a few sec before it dawned on me who you are hehe....and then i smiled :D

[@seriousmaran9414]

Yep, I have a Rattus, but I also have 3 rabbits ( Ima Rabbit, Ima Bunny, Ima Wabbit) :p

[@AliasMrSmith]

Are all nodes account bound? So, if I purchase one node with my human, any Charr I use to enter his/her home instance will have the nodes there?

[@MuklukYoutube]

Yep, all account bound.

[@AliasMrSmith]

MuklukKZbin thanks!

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

What amazes me sometimes - is that someone thought all this stuff up - and programmed it into the game ... .

[@khymaaren]

It's all dandy but how did you manage to play for a "very long time" without "discovering" the home instance? Did you not play PvE? A lot happens in there during the personal story.

[@MuklukYoutube]

Theres a lot of instances you go into during the personal story, I probably assumed that was just another such instance.

[@Tryfox95]

you know you can be 1 race and still walk into another races home instance for example, if i where human i could walk into the asurans home instance and all my stuff still be there.

[@MuklukYoutube]

Yep! That's why I mentioned to use the home instance for whichever race has the daily each day, such as "maguuma forester" in rata sum or "ascalonian miner" in black citadel.

[@Tryfox95]

@@MuklukKZbin ahh okay, i do remember you saying that ^_^ ignore my comment LOL

[@Earendilgrey]

This is what I do, I main a salad but use Rata Sum for my home instance since it's one of the easier layouts. Holbrack being the other. The rest you have things so spread out and tucked in places it seems.

[@gamingon9956]

Are these nodes only available if you own the expansions :/?

[@MuklukYoutube]

Some are expansions, some are core

[@The_Quaalude]

Here I am after finally being able to make ascended food

[@Pa1n1000]

Do you unlock those nodes for your whole account or just for one character?

[@MuklukYoutube]

Whole account, you can farm them once per day per account but on any character you choose.

[@Pa1n1000]

@@MuklukKZbin Thanks for that quick answer, appreciate it :)

[@WingedGlider]

I refuse to invest in a home instance until i'm certain the next expac doesn't come with player housing

[@grim1427]

OMG. I love this game but to SO MANY widgets that work with doodads that have to be combined with whatsits. Its enough to make your head spin.

[@anewbeginningquinn]

What's the total price for all the cheap nodes? It seems they all were 50 golds..

[@MuklukYoutube]

the s3 and s4 nodes were 50g + zone currency, many of the others that were achievement based were free or near-free

[@silverIining]

I've never felt like the LW home instance nodes are worth the 50 gold to get them. Currently, there's 13 (not counting the Hatched Chili Pepper node). That's 650 gold. Unless you get lucky on getting Salvaged Excellence (which still requires harvesting enough currency to get an ascended amulet), that's going to take a loooooong time of daily harvesting to ever even recomp what you spent to get them in the first place. If you have plenty of gold already and are a completionist, by all means, go for it. If you're looking for something profitable, you're better off looking elsewhere.

[@MuklukYoutube]

I can definately see both sides of this! Cons: high initial gold cost, can take the longest of any nodes to pay for themselves Pros: during the obscure times when you need a mountain of specific zone currencies (like making the legendaries aurora or vision, or when you are buying ascended gear for alts) you often have those currencies just lying around, and you didn't have to go farm them cause they just build up each day. I recently made aurora and I had to gather 250 zone currency for each of the 6 living world season 3 zones. And I just ... had it. Without trying or realizing, I was already done, because of the home instance.

[@silverIining]

MuklukKZbin Yea, I can definitely see it being useful for things like that, although I still don’t feel like the overall cost is worth it. Do you know if the home instance nodes yield more than a regular node that you would find on their respective maps? Or could you theoretically get just as many rewards by going to each map and hitting one node? (While not as convenient as having them in one place, still not that bad if you have the LW portal tomes)

[@MuklukYoutube]

@@silverIining The one that gives orrian pearls gives 9 pearls per day (for some reason) the others give 3 of their respective currencies per day, plus the magic.

[@mauboy1983]

@@MuklukKZbin I started late and came from nothing when I made vision and aurora and the skyscale. Even without a home instance it was quite fast to gather the currencies. You have to play those zones anyway. And that was pre season 5. now you can just get flooded with ice shards and convert them into any currency you need. You don't need a home instance. The only time it was profitable and or convenient, was when you got those nodes as soon as they came out. Then you might have gotten value off of them. But getting everything now, years later, seems like a waste of gold and um/vm.

[@DreiSchwerterZorro]

@@mauboy1983 Definitly not a waste of unbound and volatile magic as you gonna get it back ^^ It's gonna take a long time though to get the gold back, that's true - but eventually you can make it :D