Double Piston Hydraulic Cylinder - How does it work?

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@DanKoning777
@DanKoning777 Жыл бұрын
From design, editing, to the final product, there's never a disappointment. *Well done.*
@ОрОри-з7о
@ОрОри-з7о Жыл бұрын
И что это было?
@kadourmed2166
@kadourmed2166 Жыл бұрын
Aw
@kadourmed2166
@kadourmed2166 Жыл бұрын
Aw
@kadourmed2166
@kadourmed2166 Жыл бұрын
Aw ja
@bongyayabongyaya6090
@bongyayabongyaya6090 Жыл бұрын
ពួកែធ្វើបូមណាស់សូមសរសើរៗ
@lovejcdc
@lovejcdc Жыл бұрын
Now my curiosity is really peaked for the purpose of this build. It's gotta be something really cool 😎.
@horstszibulski19
@horstszibulski19 Жыл бұрын
LIke my thoughts also...
@qnner
@qnner Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just test piece for larger project.
@bartdereu9267
@bartdereu9267 10 ай бұрын
It has almost twice the pushing power then a normal double acting piston. , but it's allot longer. Can be handy in some situations where you need lots of power and don't have the space for a bigger cylinder.
@markneedham4606
@markneedham4606 6 ай бұрын
????????😮😊
@curm1778
@curm1778 Жыл бұрын
Did you hone the cylinder bores? A good dingle balling then a flat hone. Keep those seals intact for longevity
@lbear3321
@lbear3321 Жыл бұрын
Those seals will be in shreds in no time.
@MadebyBelarus
@MadebyBelarus Жыл бұрын
Дружище, давай что-то более утилитарное, как раньше. Транспорт хорошо заходит.
@ourixilva
@ourixilva Жыл бұрын
You make it so smooth that it looks easy.
@Jerrydmech
@Jerrydmech Жыл бұрын
This channel never disappoints
@Flying0Dismount
@Flying0Dismount Жыл бұрын
Did you cut out the part about honing the inside of the cylinder because I can't see this ram actually lasting very long before the seals wear out and start leaking passing over a standard inside pipe finish...
@petrosant123
@petrosant123 Жыл бұрын
its a hydraulic cylinder tube, is already smooth inside.
@Tgiles13
@Tgiles13 Жыл бұрын
@@petrosant123 because welding doesnt distort metal.. yeah… best practice is to check and rehone the barrel
@mattmax8599
@mattmax8599 Жыл бұрын
I bet it would last long enough for what he is gonna do. And if it doesn't more content for us then.
@mattmax8599
@mattmax8599 Жыл бұрын
@@Tgiles13 lol of course it doesnt.
@miroslavbunata5717
@miroslavbunata5717 Жыл бұрын
There is so much more wrong with it. Did you saw at 10:30 how he had to bend the piston rod to assemble it. It will start leaking really soon. Video is looking nice and people who don't understand machining are liking it. But this is not the right way to make hydraulic piston. Most of it is wrong.
@homemadetools
@homemadetools Жыл бұрын
Nice work, and we rarely see these homemade. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
@_techroom_
@_techroom_ Жыл бұрын
Wow! Good job! I build my machine with pneumatic drive
@SekAustria
@SekAustria Жыл бұрын
Wow great build
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek Жыл бұрын
A work of art. Made by a master of his trade. Thanks for a great video.
@eross21
@eross21 Жыл бұрын
next project. you should build a low cost mechanism to raise or lower a desk. maybe air hydraulic , electric gears, old school industrial crank wheel. that would be awesome
@boobrowsky
@boobrowsky Жыл бұрын
make it in style of citroen c5 suspension so it floats :O
@opendstudio7141
@opendstudio7141 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget about their extreme workbench build. Perhaps this could be an upgrade for this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWncgYVoaruGrZY
@anomamos9095
@anomamos9095 Жыл бұрын
I’m guestemating but the total surface area increased by doubling up the piston that way was only about one third more not the double you’d expect. This would be more of a benefit in retract than push as it is truely double in that direction. Considering all the extra piping it’s doesn’t seem like much of an improvement in size reduction over using a tube twice the diameter.
@tareksma1
@tareksma1 Жыл бұрын
I think if he uses the same hidraulic pump, it doesn't increase the power.
@anomamos9095
@anomamos9095 Жыл бұрын
@@tareksma1 . The pump size only really matters if it is too weak for the task.
@Crewsy
@Crewsy Жыл бұрын
Well. Clearly if you do the math then 2x diameter is MUCH more than 2x the volume so in a Captain Obvious way you’re correct. 🤦‍♂️
@anomamos9095
@anomamos9095 Жыл бұрын
@@Crewsy . It’s not so obvious. The force is exerted on the surface area of the piston, the larger the area the greater the force, however on the second serial piston the surface area is diminished by the piston rod , you would actually get more force out of two parallel pistons than out of the serial setup. There is something that I almost completely forget about how to calculate the force on the second piston however. I kind of remember something about force being slightly greater than the total surface area of the piston with the rod taking up the middle of it. It is less than piston with the full surface area available but more than only the available surface area would suggest.
@Crewsy
@Crewsy Жыл бұрын
@@anomamos9095 You’re overthinking it. It’s obvious that a 6” circle has a much greater surface area than two 3” circles so doubling a cylinders diameter will way more than double its pressure. You specifically mention “using a tube twice the diameter.”
@ZMO999
@ZMO999 Жыл бұрын
Request: can you do the same but with steering rack and steering pump powered by small motor for DIYers?
@industrial_design23
@industrial_design23 Жыл бұрын
Good job, but just one thing the chamber of the piston will not be ideal because the inner surface is not smoothly so it will damage the seals in small time
@darylcompton3433
@darylcompton3433 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing, but we can only assume that a man that can build hydraulic cylinders from scratch knows that and probably polished them off camera.
@industrial_design23
@industrial_design23 Жыл бұрын
@@darylcompton3433 yes I agree , really it's great job
@darrellbedford4857
@darrellbedford4857 Жыл бұрын
My feelings as well about not polishing the cylinder bore. Otherwise a very interesting build. Like many have asked what is it for.
@Crewsy
@Crewsy Жыл бұрын
@@darylcompton3433 You know what happens when you ASSume. Another comment mentions that the “pipe” material he used is actually material made for hydraulics so it’s already the right surface inside. I ASSume that’s correct. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I certainly can’t dispute it.
@ЮрийХитров-ц9р
@ЮрийХитров-ц9р Жыл бұрын
Безусловно очень аккуратно и профессионально. Однако отсутствие зеркала самого цилиндра вряд-ли позволит ему долго прослужить. Момент с ханинговкой либо вырезали, либо его просто нет.
@estebanbellegarde5975
@estebanbellegarde5975 Жыл бұрын
Muy buen trabajo y excelente presentación. Sólo una pregunta, ¿la conexión es en SERIE o en PARALELO? Muchas gracias.. Felicitaciones!
@MadhusudhanNaiduJ
@MadhusudhanNaiduJ Жыл бұрын
It's parallel
@TheUltimate65
@TheUltimate65 8 ай бұрын
From parts of steel to a functial product..👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@Sandi-n8x
@Sandi-n8x 10 ай бұрын
Tuan saya sangat senang sekali dengan adanya video ini dan saya sangat terbantu dalam pekerjaan saya atas adanya video ini dan saya sangat berterima kasih banyak 🎉🎉
@davedunn4285
@davedunn4285 Жыл бұрын
Very nice in-depth video on how you made this
@rovhalgrencparselstedt8343
@rovhalgrencparselstedt8343 Жыл бұрын
I have honestly never seen a dual piston hydraulic cylinder used anywhere, so its gonna be real interesting to see what you have in mind here.
@blackdaan
@blackdaan Жыл бұрын
because its useless
@BYMaKS-g9r
@BYMaKS-g9r Жыл бұрын
@@blackdaan в рулевых усидителях грузовиков и автобусов не редко используются. Вряд-ли бесполезно
@Bearcats737
@Bearcats737 Жыл бұрын
@@blackdaan yes and no, it will make double the force of a single piston in this case
@motomaniakpl
@motomaniakpl Жыл бұрын
@@blackdaan Such hydraulic cylinders are used where a large force is needed, but a sufficiently large cylinder diameter cannot be used. In this particular case, bad seals are used between the first and second parts. the oil will overflow from the second to the first
@blackdaan
@blackdaan Жыл бұрын
@@motomaniakpl diameter is needed for force. Double cilinders will increase the speed by 2. Bot the force by 2
@codybaldwin1604
@codybaldwin1604 Жыл бұрын
Somone should show the hacksmith this...they have been having alot of issues with hydraulics and would love this!!!
@dominikplay6587
@dominikplay6587 Жыл бұрын
Omg. It's the best sample how make some simple thing to very difficult.
@redactor1464
@redactor1464 Жыл бұрын
Сердце кровью обливается когда сначала делают мехобработку и потом сваривают детали
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, dude! Really impressive!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@wnmuhmmdikhwan1248
@wnmuhmmdikhwan1248 Жыл бұрын
Always the best 💪🏻
@FOXCRF450RIDER
@FOXCRF450RIDER Жыл бұрын
You should try a larger cup on your welding torch. That looks to be a 6 or 7 and I would use a 10 - 12 size cup. Also do not pull the torch away until the gas has stopped because your weld is oxidizing. Might need to adjust your post flow longer depending on amperage.
@nurgaliaimaganbetov963
@nurgaliaimaganbetov963 Жыл бұрын
Сделай механическую беговую дорожку Легко и просто и по красоте
@stevencox75
@stevencox75 Жыл бұрын
the story of the overly complicated bong
@seanjackson1888
@seanjackson1888 Жыл бұрын
That's very impressive, and relaxing to watch! Great Job and Craftsmanship.
@anonymously241
@anonymously241 Жыл бұрын
Great job Michael 👏👍
@jafinch78
@jafinch78 Жыл бұрын
Did you use seamless pipe or tube? Honed or not as doesn't look like honed pipe from what I could see. Maybe isn't that big of deal. Neat build! Never studied hydraulics in detail and makes sense for a more compact diameter size.
@petrosant123
@petrosant123 Жыл бұрын
@@illudedCeption its a hydraulic cylinder tube, already honed
@petrosant123
@petrosant123 Жыл бұрын
@@illudedCeption 100%, i know the guys
@petrosant123
@petrosant123 Жыл бұрын
@@illudedCeption the know what they are doing, they would not use wrong materials for this
@petrosant123
@petrosant123 Жыл бұрын
@@illudedCeption Chill dude, want me to give you the specs of the tube they used? I can do that. its actually welded cold-drawn polished steel tube.
@TricksterJ97
@TricksterJ97 Жыл бұрын
The cylinder should be skived and burnished to provide a suitable surface for the seals.
@laturra10
@laturra10 Жыл бұрын
Wow....great job, congratulations!!!!
@bennettanderson7024
@bennettanderson7024 Жыл бұрын
You are very talented person
@Wingnut_Stickman
@Wingnut_Stickman Жыл бұрын
Nice. What is your fallback colour in case you run out of that green paint?
@itz_lexiii_
@itz_lexiii_ Жыл бұрын
Prob has a closet full of the shit since its such a big part of his brand.
@mafosa9563
@mafosa9563 Жыл бұрын
something tells me you did this on your lunch hour!
@temptorsent
@temptorsent Жыл бұрын
If the piston areas are balanced, this design can allow for a no-reservoir push-pull arrangement driven by a reversing gear pump or even hand pump with a directional valve.
@carni5064
@carni5064 Жыл бұрын
The volune of the two halves will not be the same due to the volume of the piston rod.
@temptorsent
@temptorsent Жыл бұрын
@@carni5064 - Yes, it would require the working area (accounting for the rod) of the pistons be calculated and matched.
@carni5064
@carni5064 Жыл бұрын
@@temptorsent i do not think it is possible to be reservoir free. In pull mode both cylinders contain a volume of oil and a piston rod. However in push mode only one cylinder contains a piston rod and thus a different amount of oil.
@jordanaponte3608
@jordanaponte3608 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Oh, I almost forgot. Congratulations, Happy New Year and welcome to 2023.😀😀😮😮😃😃🎆🎆
@francoroberts7093
@francoroberts7093 Жыл бұрын
Make a double extending hydraulic cylinder next
@stachsco
@stachsco Жыл бұрын
Like always excellent craftsmanship, but idea don't have too much sens, at least for me : you add double the length, instead couple mm of piston radius, if shaft seal start leak you lose pressure in bouth cylinders any way and you triple connections (points of potential leakes) and at last, because in secound cylinder you have shaft, power gain in extend cykle is negligible ?
@GHuggins
@GHuggins Жыл бұрын
Do you actually gain more with this? Looks like it would be more economical to have a larger diameter cylinder than to have a cylinder twice as long with half the stroke unless you just gain exponentially with it? Just trying to visualize where this would be best beneficial is all. I could see some machinery benefits with diameter space savings, but again losing a lot with length.
@joewhitney4097
@joewhitney4097 Жыл бұрын
Great project and video. Thanks for sharing.
@حسين-ج9ط7ي
@حسين-ج9ط7ي Жыл бұрын
Great job, thank you brother. You are so talented
@Somagraf2
@Somagraf2 10 ай бұрын
Great job! Congratulations, a question inside the tube needs to be given some kind of finish, or polish, what kind of tube did you use. Hugs Vicente (Brazil - BR)
@vinceianni4026
@vinceianni4026 Жыл бұрын
Good job mister well done
@ronmurphy9819
@ronmurphy9819 Жыл бұрын
Awesome tool. Thanks Ron
@micahbromfield3184
@micahbromfield3184 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!! Great job I didn't want the video to end 😂
@maritobonatto251
@maritobonatto251 Жыл бұрын
AWESOME as always!
@Extremepro5171
@Extremepro5171 Жыл бұрын
Your al projects are amazing,please make model jet engine even I also want to make it
@Goesduit
@Goesduit Жыл бұрын
listen to the boss,,,,, don't forget to stop by for black coffee together... goes duit and goes natural so that you will increase your enthusiasm for work and add brothers thank you very much
@johnrokosky
@johnrokosky Жыл бұрын
Excellent job. But why compression fittings?
@djamelhamdia134
@djamelhamdia134 Жыл бұрын
Just for testing and not to make a mess with hydraulic oil.
@a_m_aa8364
@a_m_aa8364 Жыл бұрын
انت مبدع
@onlinehelpwithindra1913
@onlinehelpwithindra1913 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting quality videos 👍
@ulrichmachtle4864
@ulrichmachtle4864 Жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL!!!
@christervikstrom5431
@christervikstrom5431 Жыл бұрын
Great work
@madeingarage7040
@madeingarage7040 Жыл бұрын
The best!
@essentialjudge2279
@essentialjudge2279 Жыл бұрын
I find a hollow one is very useful
@ebt-ecobiotruck2847
@ebt-ecobiotruck2847 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the job. Did you use stainless steel or carbon chrome?
@georgeh01
@georgeh01 Жыл бұрын
No seal between the 2 Cylinder sections, going to leak. Interested how you took out the weld seam in the tube too
@greatvaluewalmart
@greatvaluewalmart Жыл бұрын
Seamless tubing bud
@greatvaluewalmart
@greatvaluewalmart Жыл бұрын
The "gland" between the two cylinders is the seal.
@SiboBushings
@SiboBushings 9 ай бұрын
Nice job
@madcapmagician6018
@madcapmagician6018 Жыл бұрын
nice work 😁👍
@ianfarquharson3772
@ianfarquharson3772 Жыл бұрын
Awesome skilled video. Not everyone can go all vid with no speaking😅Is it destined for use on some massive machine???ThankQ.TkEZ>UK
@liviO13
@liviO13 Жыл бұрын
397th viewer and the 9th posting a comment!! Let’s go Make it Extreme!!
@Amerikanin2numarali_ustasi
@Amerikanin2numarali_ustasi Жыл бұрын
Did you feel the Earthquake happened in Turkey a week ago ?
@Desantura045
@Desantura045 Жыл бұрын
Хорошего токаря щас братва с огнём не найдёшь, а этот молодец
@rasoulrostami4936
@rasoulrostami4936 Жыл бұрын
Very good 👍
@Amerikanin2numarali_ustasi
@Amerikanin2numarali_ustasi Жыл бұрын
Great!
@bahaddoutarik
@bahaddoutarik Жыл бұрын
Beau travail très sympa
@AndrewFroude
@AndrewFroude Жыл бұрын
Great work. Very inspiring!
@machineworld1873
@machineworld1873 Жыл бұрын
Good job
@KW-ei3pi
@KW-ei3pi Жыл бұрын
Very nice, as always. But I don't really see the point of it, especially without a description of how it works. Thanks though. Regards.
@PiazzaWoodWorks
@PiazzaWoodWorks Жыл бұрын
Hands up if you remember the death metal videos ? OG’s where u at ?
@LiveEnduro
@LiveEnduro Жыл бұрын
Очень красивая работа!
@merouanemegdad8041
@merouanemegdad8041 Жыл бұрын
very good
@smkyg
@smkyg Жыл бұрын
it would be nice if watching this on 60fps
@joesmith4494
@joesmith4494 Жыл бұрын
Very nice. Thank you for sharing
@thrasherman4693
@thrasherman4693 Жыл бұрын
Always amazed me......
@cesarconh895
@cesarconh895 Жыл бұрын
Amazing skills 👍
@TheBlibo
@TheBlibo Жыл бұрын
Ok Great build but why? What advantage over a suitably sized single piston ram ?
@streetDAOC
@streetDAOC Жыл бұрын
NASA should hire you
@ETsBees
@ETsBees Жыл бұрын
Great video. But disappointed in the product. With your lines this takes up a lot of room. Could have just used a slightly bigger diameter and had the same amount of power.
@muhammedanshas1763
@muhammedanshas1763 Жыл бұрын
Awesome products
@alexmann9310
@alexmann9310 Жыл бұрын
Is pipe polished inside? How long gasket can work if not?
@jafinch78
@jafinch78 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if honed or not and if tube or pipe since looking online appears both tube and pipe can be used for hydraulic applications.
@Sensaatioko86
@Sensaatioko86 Жыл бұрын
isnt the UN-seal leak to she otherside, cause it can handle preasure only from direction of the V-grove. What for you put that dustseal in there at the middle?
@philleeson7835
@philleeson7835 Жыл бұрын
What does a double piston ram gain over a conventional ram please?
@jocelynbutty
@jocelynbutty Жыл бұрын
Double the surface=double the force applied on the ram.😏
@philleeson7835
@philleeson7835 Жыл бұрын
@@jocelynbutty thank you.wouldn' it be just as easy and cost effective to use a slightly larger ram?t
@lofman
@lofman Жыл бұрын
@@jocelynbutty not double, you need to retract the area of the rod.
@lofman
@lofman Жыл бұрын
@@philleeson7835 I think that was the point, maybe you need a really thin cylinder for some reason, this is one solution for that. Not sure he has a practical scenario, more like a proof of concept. 🙂
@thorloki5449
@thorloki5449 Жыл бұрын
@Jocelyn Butty but it's actually only double the surface area in the retracting/pulling direction and like 1.5x in the other(ruffly without knowing piston and rod sizes). The second piston has the rod on both ends, giving it less total working surface area.
@PeterNetped
@PeterNetped Жыл бұрын
@aggelosalikaj164
@aggelosalikaj164 Жыл бұрын
Are you from GREEC
@SauronsEye
@SauronsEye Жыл бұрын
The wife, At last, something I can use".
@willwade1101
@willwade1101 Жыл бұрын
I like it but what kind of application would need a cylinder like this?
@daliborzeljkovic672
@daliborzeljkovic672 Жыл бұрын
For example, if you are limited with space in side direction, yet need bigger force?
@ninefingerdeathgrip
@ninefingerdeathgrip Жыл бұрын
But why? Not much extra power available with that piston to shaft ratio.
@yusufabdrahman592
@yusufabdrahman592 Жыл бұрын
Good ii boss MIE💪💪👍👍👍✌️✌️
@chrishayes5755
@chrishayes5755 Жыл бұрын
perfect 👌
@TheTwistedStone
@TheTwistedStone Жыл бұрын
Will it be more powerful because it has double pistons and if so how ?
@NaturalBBler
@NaturalBBler Жыл бұрын
It is like having two pistons.
@felixe.8402
@felixe.8402 Жыл бұрын
The hydraulic force is the product of pressure x area. In this cylinder are two separat volumes so the area from the piston is nearly doubled (second area is reduced by the piston rod)
@EVLS10
@EVLS10 Жыл бұрын
It's essentially pointless.
@carni5064
@carni5064 Жыл бұрын
It will be almost twice as powerful than a single piston with the same diameter cylinder and piston rod diameter. It will also require twice as much flow, so operate at half the speed as a single piston.
@NaturalBBler
@NaturalBBler Жыл бұрын
@@EVLS10 no its not
@re-fix9678
@re-fix9678 Жыл бұрын
👍👍😊😊
@mateoschmer
@mateoschmer Жыл бұрын
Joya bro
@erikbraguim4288
@erikbraguim4288 Жыл бұрын
Belo trabalho
@skun80
@skun80 Жыл бұрын
I have an idea with hidraulics for you that can be selled worldwide
@nathanrichart7226
@nathanrichart7226 Жыл бұрын
#makeitextreme More power with smaller cylinder diam? Or did you mean speed? Because of higher velocity from flow?
@nathanrichart7226
@nathanrichart7226 Жыл бұрын
Just wondered or am I wrong?
@nathanrichart7226
@nathanrichart7226 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos thumbs up from me
@JamesZJi
@JamesZJi Жыл бұрын
Double piston double acting cylinder.
@Marcelo-56
@Marcelo-56 Жыл бұрын
En cual parte del video realizó el pulido interior del barril (cilindro)‼️⁉️❓
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