This requires a drill, a bit, a trim saw, and a common inexpensive jig to complete. No measuring. No mortise too big for the tenon. No hours of acquired skill and wasted lumber to have to justify. Drilling two (or three) holes and filling them with dowels is nearly as basic as woodworking can get. And it's still very strong, practical, and efficient.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That pretty much sums up my thoughts on this exactly! 👊 Thanks for watching!
@mynameisbond7114 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach When one is new to this type of work, or we want to do something for the house, there is a lot of tools that we do not know, good video and good work, is there a link to the tool you use to make the holes? I leave you a 👍
@bigrig06254 жыл бұрын
@@mynameisbond711 It's a kreg pocket hole jig. Get them at lowes or home depot
@kencheney38494 жыл бұрын
@@bigrig0625 The k4 gig is on sale pretty cheap right now since the k5 came out.
@yakkytory82364 жыл бұрын
@@mynameisbond711 The Kreg K4 and K5 are not the right jigs for this kind of project as Ken Cheney suggests. You want the R3 or better yet the 300 series for a project like this given that they are smaller, more versatile, and easier to handle. K4 and K5 are overkill.
@onehans Жыл бұрын
You are a woodworking god, and thank you for not wasting my time with unnecessary intros and talk.
@MakerBeach Жыл бұрын
LOL thanks!
@carpepesci4 жыл бұрын
This is one of those ideas that is so obvious no one thinks of it. I've had a Kreg jig for years and never thought of this. Bloody well brilliant! Cheers!
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ranni!
@larrybernstein41094 жыл бұрын
Can't see the forest for the trees moment . Never would have thought to use dowels instead of the Kreg screws. This is why I love youtube so much. Thanks
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Larry! That's why I started a channel. I had to give back for all the amazing things I've learned. Thanks for watching!
@larrybernstein41094 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach Your welcome. I call it "that light bulb moment."
@nesleyheiney31114 жыл бұрын
It’s been a year now and the chairs I made in this manner are still holding tight. Thanks for the shout-out !!
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Glad to hear your chairs are still solid!
@lockedloaded49423 жыл бұрын
Really great idea! Thanks for getting straight to the point and not wasting 5 minutes at the beginning like so many other videos do.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👊
@superd222tube Жыл бұрын
Pocket dowels. Great idea. Thanks for adding the comment about gluing the apron to the leg. The only thing I’d do slightly differently is use a sanding block after trimming off the dowel ends. Can’t wait to try this!
@dirtybaywoodshop-joeporter56503 жыл бұрын
Genius! I've been using pocket holes for years and never once thought about using it for dowel joinery. I don't know if I'd use it in my higher end client builds, but for personal projects and quicker stuff, this is great. Way stronger than the pocket screws. I'm glad YT served up this video! New sub. Thanks! - Joe
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joe! And thanks for the sub!
@MomusFilms2 жыл бұрын
Useful!
@patrickdillon-h1o Жыл бұрын
it's a great idea and I just watched a gentleman on another video test all the kinds of wood joints,dowels like yours was the strongest.
@richardlove42873 жыл бұрын
Pro tip….run a tenon saw along the length of the dowel to make a small groove. This allows the air to escape and release any pressure in the joint.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@davefoc2 жыл бұрын
I have done a lot of wood window reinforcement with dowels. I never did this. I don't think it's necessary. Even with pretty tight dowels the air escapes.
@MomusFilms2 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@peterreece23402 жыл бұрын
@@davefoc Or take your plane and make a couple of passed on two sides of your dowel
@carterscustomrods2 жыл бұрын
I always have my dowels go through end to end with this system. If just building a shop table, or a tool table (like I did with my router tables) a black walnut dowel going through lighter colored woods (I used swamp ash because it was lightweight, cheap, and i had a ton of it.) and it looks awesome when all said and done. Also, if you are doing a 3 way joint (like a leg with a front and side apron) try to make sure your dowels don't bump each other in the leg. I've used this technique on every table joint or permanant j8g joint in my shop for about 5 years and just figured thousands of ppl already knew about it. After all, my grandfather taught me with his steel "angle jig) when I was a youngin... and I'm glad PH jigs came out, because his jig weighed 20lbs if not more lol. FYI , use your small PH jig to make a bigger one that can handle ½", ¾" all the way up to 1-½" dowels. Just take the block of wood that you wan5 to be your jig, and run the ⅜" bit through it. Then buy (or make) a long tapered drill bit in whatever size you need. Make sure the front 2inch tip of drill bit is ⅜" diameter, also it can guide the rest of your bit body along the path.
@connecticutaggie2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I just got a pocket hole jig for Christmas and now I know another way I can use if when I need more strength.
@MakerBeach2 жыл бұрын
That's great! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@andyg63124 жыл бұрын
Well, that is magnificent. I was going to use screws but this is so much easier and you just cut the dowel and you're done. No filling the holes. Thanks..
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Andy! I'm so glad this was helpful for you. I hope your next project goes great! Thanks for watching!
@PaganWizard4 жыл бұрын
This is also less expensive than buying pocket hole screws.
@billparrish43853 жыл бұрын
I like it! Especially your thought process, of not wanting to learn a traditional mortise and tenon on this project, but also taking a dowel joint that some may find challenging to get aligned and making it more accessible to the beginner using the pocket jig. Another idea I saw on the Craftswright channel that might supplement this one, was to use pocket screws as clamps where a dowel joint would be awkward to clamp, such as in this case if someone didn't have a way to clamp a doweled leg on a table. Just drill as you did for the dowels, but leave room for a couple of pocket holes as well. You get the strength of the dowels with their large glue surface, plus the draw strength of the pocket screws, which can also be plugged with dowels to blend the appearance.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill! I'm publishing a follow up video to this one in a few days where I discuss ideas just like this. I've gotten a ton of great comments and suggestions like yours. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@57xmasbaby4 жыл бұрын
Very clever use of the Kreig jig. I will definitely be using this method when the appropriate need arises. I do think for this application the two dowels were sufficient. Great idea.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad you like the idea and thanks for watching!
@omenrick4 жыл бұрын
I watched a few videos on pocket holes and this one has been the best. How you determined the depth makes complete sense to me. Thank you.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ricky! I'm glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
@omenrick4 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach What's funny is that the video wasn't even what I expected initially. I am definitely going to try this method tomorrow.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
That's great! Let me know how it goes!
@omenrick4 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach Hi Sean, I tried it and it absolutely worked. I used pocket hole screws instead of a dowel and that was the only difference. Thank you!
@errcoche4 жыл бұрын
Just bought my Kreg kit. I like this for anything that is going to take some serious load. That kit is now a "two-for". Cheers.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear. Thanks for watching!
@cubitme Жыл бұрын
Best tip find I have found so far on youtube. Excellent!
@MakerBeach Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement!
@kashel834 жыл бұрын
This is the best tip/technique/idea I've seen in a long time, I will definitely use this
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fernando! I'm so glad it was helpful for you. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@penzman53852 жыл бұрын
Stumbled upon this video just as I'm having lunch and about to do the exact same thing with the very same tool. Thank you!
@MakerBeach2 жыл бұрын
That is so great to hear. Glad it was helpful and I hope your project comes out well!
@antonioperez16244 жыл бұрын
The cleverest thing was showing the direction of the drill bit next to the piece.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it was helpful.
@pokeba3299 Жыл бұрын
Simple, effective, strong, and even much cheaper! What an idea! Thanks for sharing. Now I kniw what to do with the Kreg jigs in my closet.
@MakerBeach Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@PaganWizard4 жыл бұрын
First time viewer, and new subscriber. This is a really great idea in a few ways. 1-the joint is going to be stronger than it is with pocket hole screws. 2-you're not left with an ugly hole that you would have had to buy (or make) pocket hole plugs for. 3-using a dowel is less expensive than pocket hole screws. I noticed you sanding your dowel by hand. Next time you use this technique, put your dowel into the chuck of your drill before cutting it to length. Then, gently wrap your sandpaper around the dowel, pull the trigger on your drill and run the sandpaper up and down the length of the dowel. Then cut your dowel to size, and it's ready for use.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, subscribing and the tip! Yes, I've sanded dowels before with a drill and it definitely works. It also gets really hot really fast! Thanks for the compliments! Glad you liked the video.
@bradley35492 жыл бұрын
I just had this idea and figured I better google it. I wasn't disappointed. What a great application. Protip - the guides on that Kreg jig are designed to be flipped over - so the dangly bits point up. Specifically to be able to do pocket holes in this situation. No need for a spacer block. I'll definitely be trying this myself. Probably two dowels and a screw down the middle!
@MakerBeach2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great tip on the guides! I didn't know that! Thanks so much for sharing that. Also great idea on using a screw in the middle. Check out my follow up video where I discuss something very similar based on some other comments.
@bradley35492 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach Will do, thanks for the suggestion. By the way, I did play with this a little today. Joining thinner material, 3/4" plywood to 3/4" maple. I didn't have any dowel stock, but I did have some standard 3/8" x 1-1/2" long fluted dowels and I'm pretty happy with the fit and function for a utility shop drawer. For 3/4" stock, the Kreg pocket hole drill was just long enough for a through hole.
@MakerBeach2 жыл бұрын
@@bradley3549 that's great! I'd love to see a pic if you are on Instagram or another platform.
@pteddie69654 жыл бұрын
What an excellent idea. I love this. You are like many amateur/weekend woodworkers out here. A lot of us haven't done mortise and tenon and we're nervous to attempt it on projects that we're building. Thanks for sharing this method with us. Stay safe.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. Yeah I think joinery can be intimidated to beginners (or anyone, really) and cause them to not try certain projects that require joinery. That was the case with me which is why I brainstormed for months on how to do joinery for a table that didn't require joinery experience or expensive tools.
@gxtube3 жыл бұрын
Really smart and creative! With this technique, Kreg pocket hole jig becomes much powerful!
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👊
@ponsaravanan3 жыл бұрын
I love simple yet effective ideas. Love this one. I will certainly use in my builds.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@davidhuckaby8323 жыл бұрын
Yeah! In the old days in Alaska they used a drill auger, a non electrical drill. They used logs and dowels to make beds, chairs, tables, etc. A very rustic look. Dowels were also used like large cotter pins. Great video and idea. Some old wooden boats used dowels to join curved rib beams. Thanx!
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Long live the dowel! LOL
@mercedesmarton37683 жыл бұрын
I was watching a furniture flipping video and the person was pointing out something on a drawer. Said that if you see this definitely get the furniture. The drawers were joined with dowels instead of dove tails. He said that this is a good sign that the furniture is really an antique and was made right.
@mikecrook84343 жыл бұрын
I think it's a great idea. Even if no glue was used I'm thinking dowels would be more than adequate regarding strength. And since many people don't fill the pocket holes with a plug, the dowels would take care of that as well making the finished look superior to pocket holes without plugs. I really like the idea of using dowels instead of screws and am going to give this a go. Thank you for sharing.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@icarossavvides2641 Жыл бұрын
The presentation is to use dowels instead of Mortice and Tenon joints, not instead of screws!
@dailyreader5062 жыл бұрын
Very efficient. I like it. Just starting a 3’ x 8’ sewing centre for my wife. 2” x 6” poplar legs and aprons and a solid core mahogany commercial door top. All salvaged and surplus material in excellent condition. Very heavy. This method of joint construction is very strong and cost effective. Good thinking. Thanks!
@liamc-rb9tz3 жыл бұрын
That was a brilliant idea, loved the idea of using plugs instead of screws, going with three was a good idea too, so simple and easy to do, thank you 👍
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching and commenting!
@marklepkowski53624 жыл бұрын
Dude, your awesome, you and that other guy you was talking about. I'm happy for people like y'all, helping people like me figure shit out. Thank you!!
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark! Glad this was helpful and thanks for watching!
@SusanHCooper4 жыл бұрын
Finally! A simple way to connect corner boards w jig! This has always been a challenging task I always screw up... THANK YOU a million times!!
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Susan! I'm so glad it was helpful for you. Add another comment if you use this technique or if you have any questions. I'd love to hear about it!
@MarcoACasco Жыл бұрын
Hey man !!!! Just like I used to say back in the day !!!! Out of sight man !!!!!! Really awesome !!! So basic, easy to do, will definitely use it !!!! Thanks !!!!!
@lsjohnson204 жыл бұрын
I was about to pull the trigger on a $200 dowel jig kit. It is nice but I am not rich. Nor am I going to use it to make money. With that item in my cart, at the last second, I googled "use Kreg as dowel jig" and your video popped up. Thank goodness. Thank YOU! And guess what. I already have a Kreg.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Wow that is great Leland! Thank you so much for sharing that with me. I'm glad this was helpful to you. Let me know how it goes if you try this technique!
@esi46014 жыл бұрын
I saw the title, had a negative thought about misuse of the Kreg jig and didn't plan to watch. However, it's Monday and time to do something different. I watched (it's fantastic BTW) and learned bunches. Thank you for sharing!!
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Danise! I'm glad it was helpful and thanks for watching!
@warped-sliderule3 жыл бұрын
A structural improvement to this great idea. If doing three dowels, use two dowels space apart toward the edges on the inside of the apron. Then use one dowel on the other side of the apron in the middle. Thus the dowels will cross into the leg and mechanically lock the apron from pulling out. Of course the down side, is the dowel could be seen from the outside if the furniture is not painted. Another option is one dowel in the top edge of the apron and another dowel in the bottom edge of the apron. Some variations on this elegant concept...
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Those are great ideas. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@vociferonheraldofthewinter22843 жыл бұрын
Good idea to do cross dowels. To build on that thought, I like the idea of making the dowels a statement. Using something like oak dowels with walnut could make an interesting statement. Hell, do them all in the most conspicuous places possible. This could make some beautiful, interesting joints. As strong as these joints would be, it might even come to speak of quality.
@ARMYStrongHOOAH173 жыл бұрын
@@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 I love that idea. I love accents and inlays so using a walnut dowel on an oak piece (or visa versa) really trips my trigger, lol.
@chrisbutler21242 жыл бұрын
@@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 I like the idea, but I think it would just look, to a woodworker, like you plugged a pocket hole joint. Normal folks wouldn’t know that though!! 😅
@pamelaallen65434 жыл бұрын
I'm going to use this tip, a lot! I really like my pocket hole jigs, but not the look so much. I make rustic furniture and this will make life much easier. Thank you for sharing.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching!
@taylormcintyre57593 жыл бұрын
A pretty no nonsense video, with some great information. I really enjoyed this, thanks!
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks! 👊
@rolandmetayer72103 жыл бұрын
Great idea and very well explained ! I just purchased the very SAME KREG JIG ! Thank you very much sir for sharing your idea. Cheers from Canada, snow country.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@tomstanley754 жыл бұрын
I like how you follow up and explain your technique. Very thorough
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tom!
@brianmurray6673 жыл бұрын
Great use of a tool for another application...two in one. Good explanation and demonstration.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@joshperloff91793 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a pretty great idea and I’m glad that you put it up I might even give it a try myself. Seems like a decent alternative to getting a domino which is absurdly expensive
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@LuisCasstle4 жыл бұрын
I thought about that when plugging pocket holes with dowels. Nice to see it implemented, definitely gained some tips, like the spacer for offsetting.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it just kinda hit me one day when I was trying to figure out how to make a table. Thanks for watching!
@paraplegichistoricalsports57004 жыл бұрын
I've been a residential carpenter my entire life and retired now. I'm building bird houses, muzzle loaders, andchunting a lot. But, I've been interested in dial rod joinery and you have sold me to getting this jig. Dial joints are very, very strong, especially if you use hickory dial rods. Just a tip, use hickory in high demand areas
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, James! Yeah dowels are a solid choice. I got to tour the Thayer Coggin furniture factory in High Point, NC. They make very expensive, hand made, high end furniture and cut no corners on quality. They proudly use simple dowel joinery. The Egyptians used it too and they were pretty good at building stuff. Thanks for the hickory tip! I'm sure I could learn quite a few things from an experienced craftsman like you.
@paraplegichistoricalsports57004 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach I'm from and located in Sampson county NC
@j.dacosta3314 жыл бұрын
It is very good idea the alignment is allways foolproof Congratulations
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@maryfernando75454 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sean. Now I know to do a dowel joint using the Kreg Jig. How good is that. I am an amateur woodworker in my 70s and enjoying this new found hobby with the simplest tool capable of creating a variety of things.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear, Mary! I'm glad the video was helpful and thanks for watching!
@tomoxfford Жыл бұрын
That's such a great idea and an easy way to improve it even more is to drill the 2 holes for the dowels into each piece at 90° to the face of the wood so the ends will be hidden after joining. You can get really inexpensive jigs to ensure those 4 holes are always perfect, there's no clamping or cutting and the pre-cut dowels are designed specifically for gluing. ✌️
@robertswail37684 жыл бұрын
I built a Kamado Joe BBQ table (ceramic BBQ weighs ~250lbs) with cedar using this kreg-jig-pocket-hole-dowel-joint method - and worked great! I might have had to sand the dowels a lot more than I expected but that wasn't a show stopper; I was just worried about dowels breaking or cracks in my frame if the fit was too snug. I have almost no building experience, so if I can do it, anyone can :-) Thanks Maker SAW!
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! Have you posted any pics of it on Instagram or anything? I'd love to see it!
@SFFXd3 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea and not one I've seen before. I like dowel joints and I like pocket hole joints too. I have a couple of jigs for both methods and use them frequently. And I like to mix these within the same project sometimes. I will for sure try this idea sometime to see how I get on. Nice tip, thank you.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Let me know how it goes if you try it!
@ivantruhniy4 жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for! Thanks a lot for such a simple and complete demonstration.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
No problem Ivan, and thanks for watching! What are you building?
@ivantruhniy4 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach It is a wooden bench for the kids. pasteboard.co/JdNDBEO.png I want to join legs on glue and dowels instead of screws to make sure that it will hold safe and solid.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Looks great!
@ivantruhniy4 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach Thanks :) It is just a design for now. The next step is to make it real.
@marcstanies52713 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Video! It will help me for my upcoming Project and will delete my struggles with the Jig for Pocket Holes. Regards from Germany...By the way...Your „voicing“ (don‘t know the right word for it) is great. I have had no problem to understand you...
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Marc!
@iFixJunk4 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people are commenting negatively on your recommendation of this method in a particular application instead of understanding that it will have merits in certain applications at some point that is not necessarily obvious now. You have shared another method of making a strong joint and I appreciate it.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Marv! I think you are right. I'd really like to do a follow up video that clears up some confusion. Thanks for the kind words! 👊
@kruesae223 жыл бұрын
Great technique! My grand-grandmother used to have, she dead since the late 2000s, a very big Kitchen table and I allways asked myself why there were some oval markings in a slighty different color. Now I know the answer. The table had been build in the 20s of the last century, maybe a old technique which got a bit dusted in the sawdust of time.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this! That is a very interesting story. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@TheSilversurfmonkey4 жыл бұрын
Clever idea, thanks for sharing. Combine it with the HD jig and you'd have an extremely strong joint that both self-aligns and self-clamps
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Great idea! 👊
@johmac303 жыл бұрын
What is the HD jig?
@nicksgarage22 жыл бұрын
The HD jig is made for 2x4 construction and has a half inch drill. The now have the XL version which also uses a half inch drill. I just use the pocket screws but I can see where this would give you a solid all wood connection.
@lsequeira31394 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea. Appears to be a superior alternative to screws. Thank you.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@HowIDoThingsDIY3 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty sweet tip man! I can see why you got so many views! I never would have thought of this. Also cool you gave some credit to the other guy that did it. Full watch!
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Travis! It was great getting to know you on the podcast!
@das2502504 жыл бұрын
Great idea- if you scribe out a small line along dowls the glue and air has a place to leak out and you get a 100% dowel depth every time
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's why I sanded them laterally instead of just spinning them on some sand paper. But I like your idea too!
@mykhelderian4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@das2502504 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach as long as air can get ,you can plane a small section off circumference, scribe ,sandpaper etc
@myutube19604 жыл бұрын
Very good tip
@itSupport-yu9np3 жыл бұрын
Clever…. OCD…. But clever….. from an OCD Scottish guy. :)
@rogergreen63412 жыл бұрын
I have plans for a table.I have the woodd too. Worried about the joints of apron to leg.... but you saved me some dream time. I will try this out. I looks like a great way to get over my joinery issue. Thanks. Saved you for later too.
@MakerBeach2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it was helpful. My table with this method is still holding strong!
@dennisd57764 жыл бұрын
Clever use of the jug. To make the dowels go in easier I would use Hide glue as it is "slipper" than yellow wood glue.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Great tip and thanks for watching!
@chewar753711 ай бұрын
This is incredible, have never seen this done before and I will definitely be doing it from now on. Hate those ugly screws, and the plugs never seem to work. Thank you for this video!!!
@vittofavaretto16124 жыл бұрын
You've done a good job, so you don't even see the hole getting a clean, professional job.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Muzikji3 жыл бұрын
I don't like to use pocket hole method because I've read a lot how much weak it is, but with this brilliant idea, I change my mind!, it's strong, faster and easier than using mortise and tenon, or just dowels. thank you.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this was helpful! Thank you for watching and commenting!
@loganmedia11422 жыл бұрын
Pocket hole joins are weaker, but in most cases more than strong enough. They're strong enough to make a shelf supported by a join at only one end which you can stand on without it breaking. Once you have all the pieces of something put together the forces are often countering each other which makes the joins hard to break in spite of each pocket hole join not being the strongest available.
@ToolsReview19733 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant!! Thank you for this amazing idea, keep the good work up!
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@ricdonato43283 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, excellent demonstration of a impressive technique! Thank you for sharing. Also, I am very impressed and pleased as you used your tools you turned off your sound. It makes a world of difference, truly wish others would do it as well. Too often a KZbin content creator is demonstrating then use their tools, OMG we cannot turn our sound off fast enough, folks in the room give us the ole-stink-eye. After they finish with the tool then begin talking we cannot turn the sound up fast enough thus we miss the beginning of what they said. Sir, I tip my hat to your technique for sound.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
LOL! Thank you for the feedback! 👊
@das2502504 жыл бұрын
You can also do 2 (near edges ) dowls on one side and 1 on the other (in centre ) meaning the dowls are staggered and you get a very tight bond
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@Misterpennymoney4 ай бұрын
lightbulb moment when you showed the cross section. thank you!
@FatNormanCoathanger4 жыл бұрын
Great video.!!! best aspect is none of the usual KZbin faff.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
LOL thanks, Frank!
@ms-hl4vg3 жыл бұрын
Super idea. Doesn't require specialized skill and makes wider use of pocket hole jig if one already has it. Stronger joint than a pocket hole. Will try it in my next project. 👍
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm so glad it was helpful. Some people think it's a terrible idea. Check out the follow up video.
@JoeMama21124 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip. Now I want to go build something using this trick!
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe! I'm so glad you found it useful.
@80mike3 жыл бұрын
Your comment at 0:29, I would say this is the strongest ever table leg joint there is. If you are going thru the work of making a table from real wood, you're probably hoping to have it for a while. If you are moving the table lots, i.e. extensions etc... you'll want a sturdy joint, and that being the one you called ugly. Go ahead and recess it into the sides and you won't notice a thing from on top. I did that to my beech table glass top and you can hardly see anything EVEN thru the glass!!! And its ROCK SOLID!
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input! I wasn't sure how strong one of those brackets would be on a large table. Glad to hear that you have used them successfully. And great idea to recess it so it's hidden! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@JoBianco4 жыл бұрын
Would really love to see a side by side comparison of strength test between the dowel joint and pocket holes.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@vectors2final364 жыл бұрын
Mattias Wandel did that on his youtube channel
@JoBianco4 жыл бұрын
@@vectors2final36 I looked and it seems he did tenons and pocket holes, not dowel joints and pocket holes. Maybe I can't find it, but send me the link if you can find it. thanks
@olipoulsen52014 жыл бұрын
It's a very smart and good way to assemble large and strong pieces of wood together, thanks for the information.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@glenntrav4 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. Thanks, I may give it a try. I would ask however if there is an advantage over using screws?
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Dowels should be stronger with all the glue surface area they provide. Screws can get loose if the joint gets torqued enough. In some cases it does not matter but a table leg can take a lot of stress. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@glenntrav4 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach Good points. Thanks for your quick reply.
@DanDDirges3 жыл бұрын
Looks like I have discovered another genius on KZbin!
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan! That's quite a compliment! You've got some great videos too. Lutherie is something I want to learn more about so any video about building or playing instruments always interests me. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@DanDDirges3 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach I whittle out a banjo and carvings once in awhile but my channels mostly music. I just like watching channels like yours to learn more about woodworking.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
You should check out my ukulele build video. It's a super fun build!
@Palbiston14 жыл бұрын
Nice technique I’ll be doing this now. I dig the Star Wars T-shirt too!
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You can never have too many makers wearing Star Wars t-shirts on KZbin! Lol!
@randomnonsense_14 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach I'm actually wearing the same shirt while watching the video. :-)
@bgt16662 жыл бұрын
Subscribed to a fellow woodworker and you asked for feedback, so here goes. I use Kreg PHs where practical, I love mortise & tenons, but PHs are great for many builds and I've used them in conjunction with fancier joints. I could see this as practical for a new woodworker and the only thing I would have done (unless I missed it), was added your TypeII glue to the initial joint, clamp, drilled & doweled. I thought I saw movement in your joint but it's a youtube vid and hard to tell, the extra area of glue-up simply adds more more strength.
@MakerBeach2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@chico915213 жыл бұрын
Great video .... Guess who subscribed !!! Good stuff
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the sub! 👊
@alexandrospap3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! I made a 2metersX1meter cypress wood table trusting you regarding the connections and although it is very heavy it is truly solid too. For sure relative adjustments made, yet the main idea was based on your great video!! Greetings and thankfulness from Chania- Crete- Greece
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
That sounds great! I'm so glad this video was helpful!
@Jimbo234GW4 жыл бұрын
Am considering using this method for asthetics. Maybe drill all the way through, use a different color dowel [darker color?] Of course gluing joint and dowels. Trimming off both ends for projects that I stain. I think will add a cool look. Am going to try this out. My thoughts: I would think with solid wood through the entire joint and of course plenty of glue, that this would actually be a very strong joint after drying compared to a metal screw. Just a thought. So yeah blow it out all the way through, then run your dowel through and through.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've pondered the same thing. Let me know how it turns out if you try it. I'd love to see it.
@piezoman793 жыл бұрын
That’s the best reason to use dowel joinery is for the aesthetics
@paulweston81843 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty bomb idea. Even if someone else had it too. It's still your idea. Thanks. This made it so much easier to glue up and mate the sides of two boards perfectly
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!👊
@agui1233 жыл бұрын
Uma forma de unir peças simples e eficiente, muito bom e ilustrativo seu vídeo.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Obrigada!
@jorgevallejos68243 жыл бұрын
El tarugo no toco la segunda madera , mmmm no good boy
@BlessedLaymanNC3 жыл бұрын
I think this is great! I'll definitely be using it. I get free hardwood that I can make dowels from, so I may have to build a jig now since I learned this. That definitely clears up the problem of aligning dowels, and if you use pocket holes, you need to cover them anyway, so this is great for me. I just found you from YT suggestions. I'll be checking your videos out, if they are mostly woodworking, I'll be subscribing.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sjdalzell4 жыл бұрын
That is a great idea for longer pocket holes. You would definitely have to make sure you can get the table out of the room without disassembling it, or leave in in the room forever. :)
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha... I wish I had a table so big it couldn't leave the room! The one I made is a standard height table so turning it on its side allows it to fit through almost any door.
@learemington17004 жыл бұрын
Ive been woodworking on houses and yachts for years. I just learned something new. Thankyou. You have a new subscriber
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lea! I'm glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching and the sub!
@remakingvintage63534 жыл бұрын
I did a process like this in some projects, a kind of, but I use the jig normally, with screws, cos they act as a clamps during the glue up. When the glue is dry, take off the screws, and the hole they live act as a guide for the large drill, that you can use without the jig.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've heard of that technique. Simple and useful!
@shawnjohnson76804 жыл бұрын
Remaking Vintage, when you do that how do you control depth in order to not go through the other side? Do you just “feel it out”, or do you adjust your stop collar, or something else? Thanks
@DoctorRickOD2 жыл бұрын
I liked your idea so I tried it myself. It worked well with the following caveats. The 3/8 inch drill bit I bought (Irwin brand) did not fit in the Kreg jig. While the shaft of the bit measured 3/8 inches, the cutting end of the bit was slightly larger than 3/8 and I wrecked one of the channels on the Kreg jig trying to force it through. The other tip I would offer is DO NOT try to do a dry fit by pounding in the dowels (you didn't I notice). Once the dowels are in they are difficult to remove for final glue up. Also, to sand the dowels down a bit, insert the dowel into a drill, then grab the dowel with a piece of sandpaper in your hand while running the drill.
@MakerBeach2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info and I'm so glad you tried this technique!
@rossegberink26564 жыл бұрын
Why would you not just use pocket holes with screws? would that not be just as strong as the dowels?
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
For a small table, yes. For a large table with really large, chunky legs I questions whether pocket hole screws would stay secure and tight. I don't think screws would completely fail but I do think they could loosen up over time.
@projectdad65614 жыл бұрын
No way would that be as strong. Diesel truck is 10times stronger IMO
@kenday79422 жыл бұрын
Great idea! There is a drill guide available for this type of joint. However, the one I’ve seen uses an X pattern and makes a very strong joint (strong even without glue at all). I might even add another peg from the other surface into the leg. That would make a total of three or four pegs. And of course glue the two joined surfaces. I like to use pocket holes with screws or just regular dowels for most all joints because it has been shown that free tendons and biscuits, etc. do not actually increase the joint strength much more than the glue does by self. Your method combines dowels with the pocket whole concept, which should be very strong and easy and more economical to do
@MakerBeach2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I agree about adding an extra dowel. Check out my follow up video for more on this. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@gusuave0074 жыл бұрын
Great concept and technique. I have one question: Would the dowels on the perpendicular board, attached to the leg at 90 degrees, interfere with the other two/three dowels? I am just wondering about that.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Good question. I guess it's possible if the legs are narrow but you can avoid that pretty easily when you do your layout. I used this technique on legs that were 5 inches square at the top so there was plenty of space. Thanks for watching!
@stevenM82824 жыл бұрын
If one offsets the location of the dowels in each apron that should not be a issue.
@731Woodworks4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Good job coming up with this.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Let me know if you ever use it. Keep up the good work!
@martymitchell98554 жыл бұрын
Neat idea, I’d never considered this method. However, considering the amount of time this method takes (allowing for the glue to dry) why not just use that time to make a proper mortise and tenon joint? With a little practice a M+T joint would actually be faster. I’m certainly not dissing this method as it obviously will work great, but I’m just not really seeing the advantage. Anyway, great camera work and your audio is perfect. Very well done. 😉👍
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Marty! I've never thought of mortise and tenons as quick. I also have never tried it! Part of the reason for this method is to facilitate making a strong joint with beginner level skills and inexpensive tools. I would love to do mortise and tenon but I don't have a mortiser and my chisels are junk. 😉 Thanks for watching and all the nice compliments! 👊
@rudycarrera47594 жыл бұрын
*Using this method, you could make productive use of the time it takes for the glue to dry* to do any number of things in the shop, the house, the yard, etc. In the time it takes to do 8 mortise & tenon joints the traditional way for a table, you'd be practically done attaching the table legs & aprons using this dowel method _AND_ you'd already be working on the table top!
@bruceharvey88104 жыл бұрын
The length of time for the glue to dry is not a factor as you would also be using glue in the M+T joint.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
@@bruceharvey8810 that's true! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@1961Duane31427 күн бұрын
How would it be faster??? No way. So you do not use glue in mt joints? What holds it together then? Air??
@valeriecouch72 жыл бұрын
This is genius! Thank you thank you thank you for sharing. I’m using this joint for a kitchen island I’m making. 🎉
@MakerBeach2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Valerie! I'm so glad it was helpful! Please let me know how the island comes out!
@valeriecouch72 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach I will do! 🙂
@noelv19764 жыл бұрын
What’s the purpose of this instead of using regular pocket screws?
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
This is for doing dowel joinery in a location where a normal dowel jig would not fit. Also, dowels and glue will be stronger than screws.
@arimadx4 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Just replacing screws with a dowel? I mean it's a alright idea. And you get more glue surface area I guess. Or just make a Dowling jig. Not a horrible idea though
@1961Duane31427 күн бұрын
Did you even grasp the concept? He clearly said the purpose.
@noelv197626 күн бұрын
@@1961Duane314 you're four years late
@1961Duane31423 күн бұрын
And yet you replied. @@noelv1976
@richardtullius6419 Жыл бұрын
Great idea, think I’ll use it in the near future.
@davidanderson16523 жыл бұрын
I don't get it, dowel jig is just as easy and no visible fasteners on your peice. But if you like it, it's your wood so enjoy.
@MakerBeach3 жыл бұрын
I didn't have a dowel jig so this is how I improvised.
@1961Duane31427 күн бұрын
The shear strength on an angled dowel would be much stronger than straight due to more cross section area. No brainer
@jeromefridmann61082 жыл бұрын
Very Pro... No unneeded Yakery....To the point ....kudos.
@MakerBeach2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@JWimpy4 жыл бұрын
Wow, now that's thinking outside the box. What a great idea.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Johnny! I like your profile pic! 👊
@JWimpy4 жыл бұрын
@@MakerBeach And I was blessed to see your video on building the nativity scene as well as the scripture reference. I plan to build one similar now.
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
@@JWimpy That's great! Let me know how it turns out.
@dixitapatel42834 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video. What a brilliant idea. I like the way it all looks invisible, no screws.! I will use this to experiment. 👍
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
@m4euro6 ай бұрын
Clear video - and food for thought. Thank you.
@davidadams1924 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Very clever use of the jig. Have been wanting to do dowel joins and have all the Kreg equipment so I am looking forward to trying your technique. And thanks for the video links!!
@MakerBeach4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Let me know how it goes if you try it!