How to 3D Print bores without supports (Fusion 360 Masterclass)

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@Lenbok
@Lenbok Жыл бұрын
This sequential bridging technique was invented by Nophead afaik, described in his blog post "Buried nuts and hanging holes", from 2014. His blog is a gold mine.
@emanggitulah4319
@emanggitulah4319 Жыл бұрын
Can you share the Link?
@Idiot_Engineering
@Idiot_Engineering Жыл бұрын
hydraraptor.blogspot.com/2014/03/buried-nuts-and-hanging-holes.html?m=1
@runbuh
@runbuh Жыл бұрын
@@emanggitulah4319 You can't share links via the comments. You'll need to google using the words that @Lenbok provided above. It's everything you need for the proper search.
@cupbowlspoonforkknif
@cupbowlspoonforkknif Жыл бұрын
​​@@emanggitulah4319 I searched "nophead blog" and went to the site titled HydraRaptor. It gave me a mobile version which was impossible to navigate so at the bottom I clicked web version. That gave me access to the side menu where I clicked 2014, then march to find the article.
@mrkthmn
@mrkthmn Жыл бұрын
Kinda hard to really claim who invented anything (first) since the only data to go off for verification is the earliest example of documentation or production. I could figure out a concept and sit on it for ten years to have someone else come out and say to the world, I just invented this! Did I invent it? I thought of it first I just didn’t make it. So is it the problem solved by a persons creation that’s the invention or simply the manufacture and subsequent public exposure of the solution that’s being titled? We know from history that people have gotten credit for “inventing” things that were other people’s creations, they just rushed to build it first. At the end of the day I give an amount of admiration to people for their creativity but I give “invented” titles a grain of salt.
@mik13ST
@mik13ST Жыл бұрын
I think the sequential bridging should be implemented in slicers. It's a matter of 3D printing using FDM, not 3D modelling. The same goes for elephant's foot effect, I refuse to adjust my models with these details. Also, I think this should be doable in slicer in a single layer by first bridging one direction and then the other in the same layer.
@thirtythreeeyes8624
@thirtythreeeyes8624 Жыл бұрын
Cura "initial layer horizontal expansion" for elephants foot. Not sure on other slicers Cura has every setting I'll ever need and then some so I've never used any others. Seems like the rest just copy Cura anyway with things like tree supports and arachne lol
@IrocZIV
@IrocZIV Жыл бұрын
I would suspect that printers with advanced bed leveling do deal with elephants foot, but printers that you level yourself are a bit too variable to predict, I would think. I don't get elephants foot on my on my prints (no auto bed level) so if there was any auto-adjustment, the changes might bevel the bottom of the print rather than keep it straight.
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 Жыл бұрын
I see where you're coming from. But, design for any manufacturing process includes some details of the process, and not just an abstract ideal model. "Design for manufacturing" is a field for a reason. I do try to avoid overly depending on 3d printing in my models, but I don't go overboard.
@michaelj3971
@michaelj3971 Жыл бұрын
If it is included as a slicer option, the modeler needs to know how the slicer implements the sequential bridging in order to account for the (in this case) changes in hole depth. That is, it will affect the accuracy of the hole depth and therefore the fit up of your parts.
@wyzedfz1495
@wyzedfz1495 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelj3971 I guess that if this sequential bridging is ever implemented, this should be more like knowledge or tips you should apply for models that are supposed to be printed. I mean, "Add a 1mm more thickness to prevent the slicer to modify your accuracy if sequential-bridging". Personally I use a lot the trick of "water drop" like holes for holes that are printed vertically. The idea is fairly great. However I am not agree on how it is implemented on this video. I mean, the part should be nothing but the part. Once the design is done, another design should start from the previous one and that's when all the 3D design tips should be applied (Water-drop holes, sequential-bridgin, elephants foot chamfer, horizontal expansion... whatever) . I think that this allows you to design a part without thinking at all on the way of how it would be manufactured. If this tips are eventually included on the slicers, you can always send the "untouched" part instead of the FDM adapted one.
@aquilux-vids
@aquilux-vids Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late on this, but here's an interesting suggestion that I've done a time or two for inverted details: Print the details separately, then insert them into the larger print the same as you'd insert a captive nut or bearing. For instance: I have a custom prusa print head that I designed myself, on prusa print heads they use the position of a steel ball to do filament out detection. I couldn't copy their ball holding system exactly so I made a captive channel. The back side printed fine, but the front side not only couldn't be printed due to overhanging but would have the ball in the way if I tried. So I printed the front side of the channel as it's own tiny print, then inserted the ball and the front side as a plug and just printed over it. Works like a charm. In this case, you could print what looks like a 2-4 layer thick washer, and insert it into a pocket in the main print so that it becomes the back of the hole.
@ShellingtonLabs
@ShellingtonLabs 5 ай бұрын
It'll be like those brass heated inserts or those screw threads for wood furniture. That's an interesting idea, I think I'll keep that in my pocket now thanks.
@TheNextDecade
@TheNextDecade Жыл бұрын
Been forcing myself to learn fusion, but some of the tricks you shared in the last third of the video blew my mind. Fusion has too many features that nobody talks about. Thank you so much for sharing. I'll be exhibiting at Opensauce, Excited to see you there Angus!
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse Жыл бұрын
Awesome! What are you exhibiting?
@armLocalhost
@armLocalhost Жыл бұрын
You can do this exact technique in all CADs. It's nothing specific to Fusion
@shadow368
@shadow368 Жыл бұрын
I’ve also recently started “learning” Fusion360. Learning is in quotation’s because I watched 1 video on how to make a Lego brick, and then just went from there experimenting and making my own things. Only looking up how to do something that my mind says “shouldn’t this be possible” or “what if I tried this”. I literally am only learning it this way because my ADD gets me distracted. I’ve definitely enjoyed it but I know I’ve just barely scratched the surface, just like you said. It’s amazing the things you can do with it.
@senatorsmiles
@senatorsmiles Жыл бұрын
Oh wow you taught me a new trick at 9 mins in. I'm new with 360 and cad in general, but I've been brute forcing the same style of using one sketch for complex parts by extruding new bodies from the same sketch multiple times, then moving them the appropriate distances, and finally combining them. I had no idea you could start the extrude from an object face!
@genemaster74
@genemaster74 6 ай бұрын
G'day Angus m8.....id love to learn to cad so i can make my own stuff, but the software scares me seriously. Im 49 and have spent since 2018 living a shut in existence living with Anxierty, Deep depression and PTSD plus lower back issues. So most of my chat is done outside the home is done via digital services. It was you guys of the 3d printing community that helped partly by showing me how easy 3d printing was to do in 2020 and so it gave me a hobby and striving when i can to use them i have an ender 3v2 was my first printer and have done some light mods in the last 4 yrs. living with my condition is hard for me and i just get this weird anxierty when someone says " ahh i'll just fix it in cad"... cheers if you read this m8... all good if ya skip it too. cheers from brisbane
@joegroom3195
@joegroom3195 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see a popular youtuber post on this. I've been adding 'sequential bridging' to my models for years now. Works great!
@rickseiden1
@rickseiden1 Жыл бұрын
The modeling from one sketch was brilliant. I would have been creating new sketches and projecting the first sketch over and over again.
@miranda.cooper
@miranda.cooper Жыл бұрын
How you described your workflow is similar to how my Solidworks professor told us to do it. I forget if that program would even allow you to do it this way lol Tripped me up so many times because she'd come around to my computer and make me change it right away lol. So glad I'm done with that xD
@DefinitelyNotSergioC
@DefinitelyNotSergioC Жыл бұрын
@@miranda.cooper I think it's better to have multiple sketches (unless it's a very simple model), that way you can modify it more easily in the future when you have to modify the initial sketch. At least that's what I've been taught by other fusion360 tutorial videos.,
@evanbarnes9984
@evanbarnes9984 Жыл бұрын
It is generally better to work from multiple smaller sketches, but this geometry is simple enough that one sketch will be easy to understand in the future when you need to make changes.
@slant3d
@slant3d Жыл бұрын
Thanks Angus! Great Example that is highly applicable to mass production. The reduction in translation errors (when sending to a manufacturer) and of post processing labor are huge factors when trying to mass produce a 3D Printed product profitably.
@netpackrat
@netpackrat Жыл бұрын
It's a great technique, but worth noting that since the extrude cuts used to manipulate the slicer into generating the bridging are tailored to the intended layer height, you still need to make sure the person slicing the files follows your print setting spec, same as you would if achieving this result through support material instead.
@MrGerhardGrobler
@MrGerhardGrobler Жыл бұрын
@@netpackrat yes, unless you send them a pre-sliced file. In my case, I have my own print farm, so no issue there for me.
@tiestofalljays
@tiestofalljays Жыл бұрын
“Mass Produce 3D Printed Product” sounds like a losing game. Unless this definition of “mass produce” only applies to the scale a personal print farm can manage. Couple thousand a month or whatever.
@michaelj3971
@michaelj3971 Жыл бұрын
Ah! I get it! I had to go into Fusion 360 and follow along while rewatching your explanation. You're right, it is hard to describe. Your previous video on making sacrificial layers was an excellent tutorial also. Many thanks from this retired guy trying to teach himself Fusion 360!
@doranku
@doranku Жыл бұрын
The real second best option is to enable the new, experimental feature in prusaslicer 2.6 to use "extra perimeters on overhangs". Still has some failure on the first layer of the bridge, but better than "just print it". For the 45 overhang, you could of course print a separate object to put on the bold before inserting.
@ChrizRockster
@ChrizRockster Жыл бұрын
Funny how Prusa Slicer is adding this feature, yet on SuperSlicer it already exists and we have "Simulate Prusa No Thick Bridge" to basically make it work like PrusaSlicer. I had having bridges that act as perimeters because the speed is dictate by the perimeter speed and not the bridge speed / flow / fan.
@doranku
@doranku Жыл бұрын
@@ChrizRockster Ahhh didn't know, use superslioer only sor tuning filament. Ill look into it a bit more.
@Mawyman2316
@Mawyman2316 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrizRockster isn’t super slicer the slicer that just undid it’s lifetime license and wants like 100 dollars for a slicer that’s missing a bunch of key features of the freebies?
@shawnjones5443
@shawnjones5443 Жыл бұрын
​@@Mawyman2316 , you're thinking of Simplify 3D. SuperSlicer is a fork of PrusaSlicer. Which is a fork of Slic3r. Bambu Labs also forked off of PS and reskinned it
@heavyweather
@heavyweather 5 ай бұрын
​@@shawnjones5443and the Orca took bamboo slicer and...
@MalebogiaNemrod
@MalebogiaNemrod 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your tips. I really like the sequential bridging idea. When it is possible, I just simply insert the nut (or any other metallic part) during the printing after I set a pause on the next layer in the slicing.
@davydatwood3158
@davydatwood3158 Жыл бұрын
I can't describe how happy I feel to learn that "Extrude from Object" is an "advanced" technique. I use it a lot, and since I basically learned how to use Fusion from your videos, it's like you just came and gave me a gold star. And since I live in Alberta and everything looks almost exactly like post-apocalyptic Caprica in the Battlestar Galactica reboot, I really, really needed that "good job" feeling. Because the smoke is so, so bad.
@LincolnWorld
@LincolnWorld Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of great and helpful content that I subscribed for so many years ago. I love your full project ones too, but the ones you have done on how to solve specific issues are always my favorite! I'd love to see more music making content too. Love your music, and only about 2 years ago I started learning to make music with a DAW. But I know that stuff doesn't fit the channel as well.
@ahadmrauf
@ahadmrauf Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this follow up video! I hadn't really understood sequential bridging from your last video, but this explanation makes it really clear how to do it! I'll try it out next time I need a curved overhang like this.
@aschreiber
@aschreiber Жыл бұрын
One approach I've used for rapidly doing a lot of these type of holes in onshape is to create form tools for this and then boolean them out. It with a point pattern is a real quick way to place holes. Going to have to add this to my library of tricks though.
@ShellingtonLabs
@ShellingtonLabs 5 ай бұрын
I do the same for blender because it's so much more difficult to make precise parts there. But I can also see it being very useful for when you want to pattern a lot of more complex shapes like the solution presented here. Cause I image you could do this bridging with more than 4 cuts for even better hole precision and printing.
@couryrussell7653
@couryrussell7653 Жыл бұрын
I loved your explanation of the sequential bridging. I’m still new to fusion 360 but have some small amount of prior experience with auto cad and am trying to translate over my already limited knowledge pool to fusion so this explanation definitely helped a lot! Thank you so much!
@sk1pp3r65
@sk1pp3r65 Жыл бұрын
Whether said or not i think it is important to say that this would be most applicable for complicated shapes that demand to be printed in a way that a bore like is being exampled would be in the orientation that is being shared. Well done mate!
@PetrHosek
@PetrHosek Жыл бұрын
I've come up with this trick independently about a year ago, didn't know it's "a thing". Glad more people are going to use it.
@curtkeisler7623
@curtkeisler7623 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for creating this video. This is going to change a lot of my modeling just watching you. Thank you for all the content you give us.
@Dangerdad137
@Dangerdad137 Жыл бұрын
This is a *very* clever approach. When I'm doing extrusions like this, I typically extrude above and below the plane rather than from object, but I'll be adding this approach to my toolbox as well.
@derektoy4444
@derektoy4444 Жыл бұрын
This is so helpful and exciting because I can’t wait for an update on this like two years from now for new techniques that people develop.
@6sensory
@6sensory 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! I have wanted to address this in a part or two and hearing you articulate it made it crystal clear. 'Got's lots of work to do now TYVM
@BakeJake
@BakeJake Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!!! I knew you'd not disappoint! I cant wait to watch this! game changer! Thanks Angus
@TeamPanicRobotics
@TeamPanicRobotics Жыл бұрын
Another trick you can do for the 45 degree overhang option is to print the difference between the part and the overhang part (in this case a hexagonal pyramid with a 6mm hole in the middle) as a separate part and glue it in afterwards Yes its more printer time and an additional step, but it makes the CAD easy and still gives you a flat bottom to the hole to tension a bolt
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse Жыл бұрын
Yeah that'd work too! Many options for sure
@bots2beasts
@bots2beasts Жыл бұрын
@@MakersMuse Dang it...I posted the same thing just seconds before scrolling down an inch and seeing this...DOH! lol
@bots2beasts
@bots2beasts Жыл бұрын
Great minds think a like I guess. Didn't even think to look 'til after I posted and then thought wait a second...SOMEBODY probably already thought of...dammit. LOL
@caramelzappa
@caramelzappa Жыл бұрын
You don't even need to glue it in, the nut/bolt will hold it ini like any washer! The major advantage of this vs bridging is that it doesn't make the model dependant on a certain layer height.
@imacmill
@imacmill 11 ай бұрын
IMO, it's faster to use a full sacrificial bridge and drill them out, than it is to use this insert method.
@robevans8555
@robevans8555 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's what I love about this channel, learned another fusion tip, extrude from object. Thanks for sharing
@tommyunreal
@tommyunreal Жыл бұрын
Tried that immediately, works like a charm. Great trick Angus, thank you!
@scratchinjack608
@scratchinjack608 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! Your CAD work explanation was fine by me. True, it is a "more advanced" use of the software, but if you already have a good understanding of Fusion, it made total sense!
@FufsowyFufs
@FufsowyFufs Жыл бұрын
I just stumbled on this dilemma while 3D designing yesterday, great timing!
@101rotarypower
@101rotarypower Жыл бұрын
I could watch videos like this Every day, Love the tricks and tips videos, and always interested to know of new approaches!
@marcin.sobocinski
@marcin.sobocinski Жыл бұрын
Tell me why that sequential bridging isn't a part of a slicer? It would make my life so much easier!
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse Жыл бұрын
With the current rate of slicer development it might not be long 🤔
@EricMcCormick
@EricMcCormick Жыл бұрын
I just tried this out and it works great! No more drilling out sacrificial layers.
@neoc03
@neoc03 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the F360 tutotial piece. I didn't know about this feature before.
@Erbsensuppe22
@Erbsensuppe22 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this to us! Sequential bridging is a very smart solution.
@n3m37h
@n3m37h Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! such an easy idea and I never thought of it, been a few times I could have used this
@olegvelichko1659
@olegvelichko1659 Жыл бұрын
That's really useful!!! Thanks so much for this! I am currently in the middle of drawing a design that sort of requires this technique. Very cool. Thank you so much for this
@elijahle7936
@elijahle7936 Жыл бұрын
Those advanced techniques i use very often. I never thought of them as advanced. Thanks for the ego boost 👍🏻👍🏻
@auxchar
@auxchar Жыл бұрын
I saw this a while ago in a hackaday article. Very useful technique. Especially useful for internal captive nuts, where you model a void for the nut, and you put in gcode to pause the print at the last layer before bridging, insert the nut, and then print over top of the nut.
@iteerrex8166
@iteerrex8166 Жыл бұрын
Hey Angus, I like this trick for strengthening a part with metal or carbon fiber, and it would work for situations like this too. Pause the print, drop the strengthening object into it cavity, and resume the print.
@sypernova6969
@sypernova6969 Жыл бұрын
thanks man! I leaned a few new things. not only the techniques, but hte cad knowledge of extruding at angles and extruding starting at the surface of an object, two things I've been struggling with.
@Repkord
@Repkord Жыл бұрын
Excellent explainer as always Angus. Nice work! 👏
@glennfelpel9785
@glennfelpel9785 7 ай бұрын
Very clever modeling. Thank you for all the great ideas.
@wandererstraining
@wandererstraining 7 ай бұрын
That's an awesome idea! Thank you so much for sharing it, and hats off to its inventor, Nophead.
@oasntet
@oasntet Жыл бұрын
With the 45° overhang roof on the bore, you could also print the positive version to insert before the nut. It should be an easy print, and distribute loads more evenly, and if the tolerances are just right you could actually have a stronger feature than with support material due to the increased number of perimeters...
@gerGoPrint3D
@gerGoPrint3D Жыл бұрын
true, but that's a bunch of extra work
@4techs
@4techs 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for that awesome trick! It made my life as a professional designer and maker of 3D printed parts much easier!
@IscuAndrei
@IscuAndrei 6 ай бұрын
The hardest part of my 3d printing experience was designing parts with machining in mind. I've worked in a CNC shop, programming and machining custom parts, eventually ending up doing a large run of parts for the aerospace industry (F16 and MIG21 upgrades). The design always stuck me as simple and elegant. Once I started to design my 3d printable parts with machining in mind I found out that they were a lot easier to print and in one case, it was an absolute joy going to mass production via injection molding. For people getting into this hobby/profession, I'd recommend reading books on technical drawing, machining basics and industrial design. Their are a Godsent and make learning CAD modelling a pleasant experience!
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 6 ай бұрын
Thanks. I've used these approach with my models implemented in OpenSCAD.
@ZoneKei
@ZoneKei Жыл бұрын
Great idea. 3DSet's Landy Mini on Printables uses really cool thin bridge supports for the windows of the body. They bridge the whole window gap, then stay a mm away from the edges for a cm or so upwards, then have another small bridge, then print the window overhang. The bridge breaks away clean but easily holds a 90 degree overhang without ruining the vertical parts of the window.
@WhereNerdyisCool
@WhereNerdyisCool Жыл бұрын
That’s very interesting. One thing I have used with very good success has been Cura’s tree supports. With a low density of 2-3% and support interface, my large overhang prints for my Iron Man build have gone incredibly well.
@DiscoLucas
@DiscoLucas Жыл бұрын
I've had great results using 0% infill with tree supports, and saved so much time
@gerGoPrint3D
@gerGoPrint3D Жыл бұрын
very good explanation! From now on I will extrude from the surface!
@TORDesign
@TORDesign Жыл бұрын
Thank you Angus! 3rd option so good.
@kaur-gabrielrajasalu6653
@kaur-gabrielrajasalu6653 Жыл бұрын
Wow! sequential bridging FTW !!! Thank you for sharing this!
@gloriousapplebees
@gloriousapplebees 9 күн бұрын
Thanks, I have a lot to learn, I'm sure this will come in handy eventually. Currently for parts like this I have no issues printing either side down with no supports, I didn't even realize this could be an issue, all my parts like this turned out fine.
@AL_O0
@AL_O0 Жыл бұрын
I also came up with that a few years back for some led mounting brackets i had to print in a specific orientation, it worked well enough
@TomYourmombadil
@TomYourmombadil Жыл бұрын
That extrude trick was great. I need to remember the explore scripting and rules in the 3D feature menus.
@AzaB2C
@AzaB2C Жыл бұрын
Nice! Needed this knowledge for a recessed bolt in a bracket part I worked on recently. Going to go back and improve it. Cheers!
@TrickyNekro
@TrickyNekro Жыл бұрын
Im in to composite planetery gears at the moment, this is indeed a nice trick for those bearing holes that do need to be precise. Cheers!
@brucejohnson1264
@brucejohnson1264 4 ай бұрын
I use the conical relief approach for making knobs with embedded nuts. They print up to the top of the pocket for the nut, then the slicer pauses so I can put in the nut. The conical relief on the top keeps plastic from gumming up the threads. They tighten against the flat base, not the cone, so strength is not a problem.
@OriginalMorningStar
@OriginalMorningStar Жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks! Thats a neat way of creating overhangs, but specifically for nut and bolt fixings like that I like to pause the print, drop the nut into place and then continue the print. I didnt come up with that one myself, but this is mine: Pour wax into cavities with closed tops after pausing the print, let it set and then continue. The wax plugs easily drop out with a little warm water, but it only works with TPU or other plastics that stick to a cold print bed.
@MrGerhardGrobler
@MrGerhardGrobler Жыл бұрын
Great video. As someone who prints for a commercial reason, and some fun prints. Sometimes I need to print holes/bores. I am a tinkercad user. And I can see how to incorporate this into my tinkercad designing, and orientation on the build plate. Cooling on most new 3D printers are good enough to support minor bridging. So adding it into the design can save filament and print time. Mixed with CHEP's Ender 3 profiles, this saves me much time and headache. Because of South Africa's power outage issue, I have to fit my prints into a timeslot, bacause, SHOCK! sometime print resume fails. Or it leaves a terrible missing layer line on the print surface. So, again, thank you for your videos. You, and other YT content creators makes my life so much easier with your educational videos. Or fun, watching you trying to balance a MK4 on a table that is a bit small for the purpose.
@dudea3378
@dudea3378 Жыл бұрын
Very clever. Thanks for the video!
@DalTronPrinting
@DalTronPrinting Жыл бұрын
I did this about a while ago, but I simplified it by starting a sketch on the surface that I wanted to have the sequential bridge, then I extruder every bridge by 0.2mm more than the last one. I was using it for a piece of wall art that I wanted to hang, but I didn't want it to be solid and waist material, but I didn't want to have to support the center. It came out great!
@DalTronPrinting
@DalTronPrinting Жыл бұрын
@@6moon.s yeah, I mean it's a cool way to get it all done in one sketch, but I don't think it's worth it. It makes it harder to remember what sketch had what feature of I pack too many in one.
@kwissiekwissie
@kwissiekwissie 3 ай бұрын
SIMPLE tip!!! It is SO simple,... why didn't I come up with this??? ... Thats why this is a GREAT video!!!
@davisdiercks
@davisdiercks 7 ай бұрын
Awesome! I've used sacrificial bridging for years (learned from you haha) but maybe I'll give the sequential bridging a try! You explained it really well and it could save valuable post-processing time.
@spoolheads
@spoolheads 6 ай бұрын
This is amazingly helpful. Thank you!!
@marccloutier3501
@marccloutier3501 Жыл бұрын
That extrude trick (start from object) will be usefull !!
@Roys3dShop
@Roys3dShop 10 ай бұрын
Always a wealth of good information! Thank you for sharing this.
@kspec2001
@kspec2001 Жыл бұрын
congrats on hitting 1 million subs too btw!!!
@6yjjk
@6yjjk Жыл бұрын
Great tips. I'd extrude the half with the bore up from the sketch plane, and the hex and bridges down, so everything was relative to the sketch, but there'll be dozens of ways to skin this particular cat.
@hobojo703
@hobojo703 Жыл бұрын
Would love more fusion guides like this
@kohjb
@kohjb Жыл бұрын
Omg....I learnt something new today! And it wasn't such the sequential bridging, but I never knew that in Fusion 360 you could extrude from an object's surface! I've been jumping through hoops trying to get the same outcome and it was right there under my nose! 😂
@c0mputer
@c0mputer Жыл бұрын
I just started doing this from a video I found 3 years ago from @Maniacal Lab LLC. And for horizontal holes I use the method you showed in your print without supports video with a modification to the teardrop hole shape. I cut the top of the teardrop off so it has a flat edge. The printer can bridge that easily. Make the flat part at the same radius where the circle would be. Makes for a nice fitting hole if anything is supposed to fit inside since you’re now supported at the top as well. You only have two small bits of open air at like the 10:00 and 2:00 position.
@beauregardslim1914
@beauregardslim1914 Жыл бұрын
That "to object" feature of Fusion360's extrude is a very cool tool. You can even specify curved surfaces.
@davideldridge5852
@davideldridge5852 Жыл бұрын
You explained it well mate! Well at least to me haha. Definitely something to think about next time I’m doing some designing in Fusion!
@justina208
@justina208 Жыл бұрын
Very useful as usual, thanks!
@Twistedmetal-qe8kx
@Twistedmetal-qe8kx 6 ай бұрын
Nice, very good demo!
@3dparts4u-allvisuals4u
@3dparts4u-allvisuals4u Жыл бұрын
Some very interesting techniques for avoiding supports besides chamfering edges!
@StasWright
@StasWright Жыл бұрын
Very cool! I'll have to use this method in the future!
@Linthi
@Linthi Жыл бұрын
Great Video & Explanation....thx mate!👍🤝
@davidstonier-gibson5852
@davidstonier-gibson5852 Жыл бұрын
Angus, your description was a bit too quick to follow, but the idea is enough for me. Thank you. I like that you are very much like me, a "design to the process" kinda guy. I giggle whenever I see someone want to 3D scan an injection moulded car component, complete with ribs and bosses, and expect to 3D print an exact replica.
@RoseKindred
@RoseKindred Жыл бұрын
Even though I don't have F360, this was informative. I typically only make those types of holes with the third option, "chamfered bore." Then again, I use Blender for my modeling, all I know right now, outside of Nomad Sculpt.
@toastymotors
@toastymotors Жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. Thank you!
@satibel
@satibel Жыл бұрын
If you need to take a higher load you might want to enable the option that increases infill over holes for a few layers, that way you can use lower infill in your parts and have them with a similar strength. In cura you can also set a block to like 80% infill for the whole column above the bolt if you need it to take a large load. Though you may want to add cones and/or pegs to locate and take some of the load. You can also use rubber from bike tubes if you want extra friction. If you have conductive filament you can use brass heat set inserts as plugs. It can make design simpler. But if you don't you can also use channels in which you put single strand wire that you bend to shape using a guide. You can do it either in 2 parts or by pausing the print and putting the wire inside.
@Derek_Lark
@Derek_Lark Жыл бұрын
Yes, with complex designs sometimes you have to print that way up. Thanks Angus.
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome Oisin
@JAYTEEAU
@JAYTEEAU 11 ай бұрын
Nicely done Angus. Cheers, JAYTEE
@dc321059
@dc321059 Жыл бұрын
Hi ! Thank you for this technique. I use another one, but not by modifying the modeling. I often make parts that require a molded nut, incorporated into the part. I program a print pause just before the layer that covers the nut's imprint, I place the nut directly in the printed part, and I restart the print. The nut supports the axle hole.
@mistaecco
@mistaecco Жыл бұрын
Your castle test with the "Bridge" subtitle made me laugh out loud. Quality visual pun 👍
@jhsevs
@jhsevs Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@JeffsAquaponics
@JeffsAquaponics 6 ай бұрын
I like the simplicity of the chamfered hole. I think printing an additional chamfered plug with a clearance hole to fill the space would work as well.
@OldCurmudgeon3DP
@OldCurmudgeon3DP Жыл бұрын
Cool methods. Take that a step or 2 further and that round becomes a knob for a hex bolt. Add a very slight draft angle to the hex extrude, use a nut to pull the head thru from the build plate side, and it stays put due to friction. I've used this often when making split-ring hose clamps and pivots for mounts. The draft keeps the nut in place on the other side of the part too. Helps to account for machine tolerances while keeping a tight fit.
@Doogleraia
@Doogleraia Жыл бұрын
Been seeing people do that prusa-bridging style as triangles and getting really nice overhang, making for less layers needed as bridges be only 2 (and saw one where it's 1 layer as a triangle and then somehow the next layer was circular)
@ChrizRockster
@ChrizRockster Жыл бұрын
This bridging can be done in SuperSlicer automatically by basically turning on "Keep Only Bridges" in drop down box (Print Settings > Perimeters & Shell > Advanced - "No Perimeters on Bridge Areas"). But not so many bridges.
@mutlubasdas
@mutlubasdas Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this! Cheers!
@sunriseshell
@sunriseshell 23 күн бұрын
"Send it" This is sometimes a valid and often ignored option. I do this when I print helmets saving me TONS of support material. Leaves a couple funky layers on the inside but eventually rights itself and the outside come out fine.
@AttilaSVK
@AttilaSVK Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the Prusa method since I’ve assembled my first Prusa printer in 2018 and saw how it’s done. Still great video :)
@rascal1514
@rascal1514 Жыл бұрын
I just do the design and modeling for my parts and I send them to my print guy. I know enough about 3D printing to know about overhangs etc, so I always make the bottom face (the face touching the print bed) a different colour so he straight away knows the orientation I intended for it to be printed in. It's a small detail but is great for everyone to be on the same page in back n forth emails.
@runforitman
@runforitman Жыл бұрын
I've just always done supports that I knock out with a bolt but, I've had multiple times where that support has been almost impossible to get out due to the design so having this under my belt will be useful
@simoneiorio9703
@simoneiorio9703 Жыл бұрын
In some cases is available an “infill emulation” bridging. You can construct some bridges grids (more or less spaced) of lines (your nozzle define the measure), and then make the suspended layer. In the specific case you explained for the nuts with empty area on top, due to the inclined walls, if you want, you can print a solid with the empty volume shape (clearance calculated) and put it inside the hole, so the printed structure can be compressed, as a unique printed piece.
@igorjericevich595
@igorjericevich595 4 ай бұрын
That was a great lesson / tip.
@hazonku
@hazonku Жыл бұрын
I've always done this in the inverse just using extruded faces but I'm usually fairly good at accounting for these sort of overhangs before I get to designing them.
@HauntedSheppard
@HauntedSheppard Жыл бұрын
That object extrude feature is so nice
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