Making a new MMORPG for 3DS (Devlog#1)

[@necrozma_mk7]

Dude I absolutely love the idea of having it on the 3ds. You would have to get some get some pretty good optimization . With the 3ds keep in mind how closely the player will be able to see something, reducing the poly count on models could really help. I really hope you can keep the 3ds version alive I believe in you!

[@Dinglemancer]

I totally forgot to mention it in the video, but it might be limited to only New 3DS models. The New 3DS CPU is so much faster than the old 3DS. Maybe I can try to target 30 fps on old 3ds and 60 fps on new 3ds, but no promises

[@necrozma_mk7]

@Dinglemancer Oh yeah that increase that the new 3ds models has is incredible. Even if this game ends up being too much for the 3ds it would be really cool if you made a version of rocket league for the 3ds, maybe you could even try to figure out a way to do download play

[@nirgunawish]

@@Dinglemancer bchtes love my mustache OR this time i'm really gonna do it????

[@TastelessTrees]

@@nirgunawish For Señor press 5 now.

[@shisharupu]

I've been wanting to build games for the 3DS for years. Seeing this is really inspiring! I'd love to learn more about how this engine is made.

[@Sm00k]

I see a Poring, I like. I've been RO player since first open beta. This game shaped my relationships, friendships, my whole life.

[@misterhat144]

Hey I actually ported RSC to the 3DS! Cool to see RuneScape mentioned in this video.

[@Dinglemancer]

Dang that's awesome! Do you have a link? Not sure if youtube lets you post links actually

[@FlorianEagox]

Oooh I think I saw your project in the hb appstore! Love to see us devs turning these classic systems into our playgrounds!

[@adrianmarsch.8990]

this is crazy. i’ve been looking for developers for wii and 3ds and devlogs on it. this is THE VIDEO i’ve been waiting for! insane!!!!! keep it up ❤

[@Local-Hyena37]

Hi ! I'd like to say something. I decided I would make video games when I was about 8. At that time, the 3DS was my main console, with the Wii. So, I thought I'd make games for the 3DS. However, as time passed, I realized it would become impossible. The 3DS is now almost a retro console (or is already ??) and development has stopped completly. Only homebrew stuff exist now, which a great way to keep these "old" consoles alive. I still have my first game idea, that was designed by 8 years old me for the 3DS. I want to say that this, what you're doing, is bringing me great joy. 10 years later, I am still working on video games, I actually started my first project, and even though it's a small rpg maker project, I'm proud of it. I do not know how to code yet, but I am trying to learn. Your engine is basically what I've been waiting for since the Switch came out. I want to thank you. From the bpttom of my heart. Who knows, maybe one day I'll finally make that game. And it'll work on an actual 3DS, and not just emulate the style. Maybe I'll try my hand at Wii game development. Again, thank you. I wish you the best of luck with your engine and with your life. (On another note, I reduse to consider the 3DS "retro". Not the Wii. I grew up with them, 10 years isn't that old... is it ? Hell, that counts for the DS too. I'm too young to know the GameCube, but I've been interested in this console for quite some time too)

[@Dinglemancer]

Good luck on your game dev journey! I think making games is very fulfilling even though it takes SO much effort... I hope I can get my engine in a usable state so you and other devs who want to make 3DS games still can do it.

[@Local-Hyena37]

​@@DinglemancerI still have lots to learn before making an actual game. I don't know how tl code in lua... in the meantime I will learn !

[@billmore6486]

Movemment based mmorpg? Good luck implementing rollback and prediction! Great to see a new update from you.

[@Dinglemancer]

Haha yeah, I think I'm going to give clients full authoritative control over their pawn's position/rotation for the micro multiplayer release of the game... If I do get it to a real MMORPG status, I'll need to handle prediction and focus more on security... which isn't the most fun thing, but maybe I can get some help on that

[@grzesiek9514]

there is GDC talk about rocket league networking model kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5aonpx6gp5nf6c

[@k3y.mp4]

@@grzesiek9514 thanks for this :>

[@clearlyazul]

I still regularly play my 3ds and have always wanted to be able to play osrs on it. The intro really just hit different for me x3 i am very excited to see more from you ^-^

[@loool72]

as a massive 3ds fan i absolutely support this existing on 3ds

[@_mirtrix]

Man, that's awesome! Really not that many good options for 3DS development, so you're making a huge difference! Keep it up!

[@SnoFlak]

LUA DOCS WOOHOO!!!! Excited to see Octave grow!

[@tofu2336]

I really really love that you made your engine support 3DS, it’s one of my favorite consoles ever and I still play it almost daily. For a long time i’ve wanted to make something for 3DS but there just weren’t the tools. I also kind of hope that you could implement support for the bottom screen too if you haven’t already, I would love to mess around with the touch screen.

[@harshnj]

Now this is something cool. Keep this series alive please

[@FlorianEagox]

Neat video! I would love it if you talked more about the specific challenges with developing for 3DS? Seems like a really interesting and under-discussed topic.

[@almazingsk8er]

This is a huge inspiration and source of motivation. I began working on making a very simple 2D game engine with a focus on building a tactical RPG with it (think more fire emblem, not final fantasy tactics). I've kind of let it fall to the wayside in the last few months but reading through Octave's code is extremely motivating. Thanks for sharing! Hoping for more updates soon!

[@genma986]

I like this content, look forward to hearing more about your project.

[@OvercookedChips]

oh boy oh boy our favorite game porter dinglemancer's back

[@Namregneg]

This is so cool. Like what you're working on

[@furrosama]

will definitely keep tabs on this channel's growth. subbed!

[@ZayyzYT]

I'll definitely be waiting for the next dev log

[@MasterSirman]

Never been so happy from a youtube video sugestion, this is what i been dreaming about! Really really excited to try to use your game engine for console development :D Made my day

[@simonvaldesoliva7018]

nice concept! i sure will be following up how this goes on. wish you all the best

[@DANKERPROUDUCT2]

This is amazing. I love custom engines

[@mustang_5197]

This is something i need in my life, you have my full support!

[@davsketch]

This’s such an exciting project, i can’t wait to see where you go with it!! Video about to blow up too, guaranteed

[@Whurlpuul]

Sounds cool, I'm gonna subscribe to see what you can do with this!

[@YuviApp]

Love the concept and the Idea keep it up man!

[@Oretal]

I wish you the best with this project. I hope to play this with my friends in the future 🫡 I wish you the best of luck keeping this project compatible with the 3ds. It would be so cool to experience this on there.

[@TRIVlAL-ov1tw]

The fact that you only mention half way through the video that it runs ON 3DS ?! Looks amazing good luck

[@Juicein]

When that Rayman 1 OST track dropped I gasped 😅 nice video, dude!

[@mimimc4]

wow this looks great, definitely subscribing good luck with the project o7

[@GhostLinx]

Came for the cool idea of a 3DS port, stayed for the cool game idea! I would love to play it regardless of the platform!

[@yoyopiraka2491]

This seems interesting. Have fun, Icarus!

[@WIZ_LIZ]

OH MY GOD just the "upgrade your car MMO" sorta idea is SO damn cool, let alone running on the 3DS woahhhhh

[@Jalechah]

what a cool project!!! i cant wait to follow you on this journey! I know this is your idea and vision, i just wanted to say i think it'd be cool if your going to have a gun/weapon for the car for the player to be able to aim and shoot it manually too. But honestly! I think you're on to something ! cant wait to see more!

[@jwizzlah]

I love this idea! Love MMORPGs and I'd love to play one on my 3DS.

[@littlemrh]

Just an engine for 3ds is making me sub as that is beautiful to see.

[@_asher]

Awesome idea! Looking forward to the next devlog 😁

[@xxTacolord]

Bro! An action adventure, MMO on 3DS?! You already have my money! Take it!

[@ClaudeRuelleMusic]

Very interesting concept, will keep an eye on this!

[@LizardPushingButtons]

This is really awesome!!! I love the idea of a 3DS version! You should also try to put together a Mac version :D

[@FrecklesOpenMic]

I've been making what I've been calling "monster hunter with cars" for a few years in unreal and your intuition that combat design is tricky is correct lol. Incredible work and i will be waiting excitedly 🫡

[@TeamSevenStar]

That voice crack was legendary 🤘

[@sleepyoctovt646]

This is such a good idea!!! Thats so cool!!

[@ericqueiroz4911]

Loved the ideia! I`ll be waiting for the updates.

[@ham-n-jam]

Open source engine for GC, Wii and 3DS? Bro that sounds awesome, keep at it!

[@AlexanderDumb]

This looks really cool!

[@karacter3369]

Most insane idea for a game and i love it

[@WhatBeDaPointMon]

Space Cowboy Online made an MMORPG around spaceship combat, I could absolutely see a cool land vehicle style MMORPG pull it off too.

[@Kirby_Super]

6:01 "Use the Right Stick to change targets" So I assume this will be exclusive to New Nintendo 3DS? Also, a small recommendation, something I find a lot of homebrew games are missing is good Bottom screen use. So many games just keep the bottom screen black, but I always think they should at least have like the game's logo or smthn on the bottom screen, just so it isn't always blank.

[@Dinglemancer]

Yeah I forgot to mention it in the video, but I will most likely have to limit the game to the New 3DS/2DS. The CPU is just so much more powerful. I might be able to get a 30 fps version for the old 3DS... we'll see! If it did run on the old 3DS, I would use the bottom screen for extra buttons like changing targets. As of now, my intention was to use the bottom screen for inventory / equipment / map / options menus.

[@DEERCRACKERLOVER]

Big game companies have forgotten how limitations encourages alot of creativity

[@roqueadeleon]

Dude this is awesome!! And for 3DS too?? From seeing it I think it would be fun if there were more car specific terrain, so for example hills, ramps, curves - like imagine a large wall like curve that you are driving around and aiming and shooting at enemies in the center. Basically tailor the design for the car travel. Overall looks interesting! I like the idea of it being for 3DS and would make it super interesting BUT if you can't get the online component to work or would be too difficult then just for PC is fine but with a 3DS aesthetic.

[@unnamedx2]

**Insert Sisyphus meme here**

[@cloodheegamedev]

yeah ragnarok mentioned hell yeah good luck with your project pal!

[@BADC0FFEE]

that's cool, I haven't coded anything on 3DS in a long time but I still have my devkit!

[@twistedlion2003]

This video is super inspiring and cool .

[@Koolwolfy]

Hey man! Great work. 1000th Subscriber! edit - I think you should make a discord server

[@Dinglemancer]

Thanks! I do have a discord server if you want to join. Check the video description for the invite link

[@ZephaniahNoah]

I love your art style

[@bagorilla123]

Really love this idea!

[@LuiDeca]

A 3DS game developer? I never run into those! Your project is already looking pretty good. Hit me up when it's time to make the music for it, would love to work on it!

[@jgsw563]

Great work! Also gave your star in git😊

[@woqu99]

Amazing concept, what if a person on fantasy hoverboard instead of a cart? You could still do the same things but the style might be more adaptable and appealing fkr a mmo, you could also possibly dismount ext

[@Dinglemancer]

Great idea! Yeah someone else mentioned that they were turned off by controlling a car, so your idea might be a good solution.

[@SnappySanad]

This is that cool shit that makes me open youtube to look for more

[@Gutsydude]

Loving this idea!

[@lenargilmanov7893]

Damn, that's impressive!

[@BlindNostalgia]

Idk about an MMO with this gameplay style but an adventure game using the Rocket League mechanics sounds like a ton of fun.

[@kxdsh]

you know what's funny is that this is kind of what rocket league was gonna be at one point. psyonix didn't intend to make another car football game and explored many ideas including a platform fighter and like this something more open world until they settled on a more esports focused version of sarpbc (that last part might be true I remember hearing it but I'm not certain)

[@Dinglemancer]

Oh wow I had no idea!

[@kxdsh]

@@Dinglemancer I am desperately trying to find my source but like I can't find the talk that I watched about this. I vividly remember the test footage that was shown for both prototypes I just can't actually find it. The wikipedia for rocket league mentions the open world phase but that's and their sources are articles not my source. I'm just afraid I might have misled you somehow ykwim

[@kgrayman]

Damn, the RO music got me in my feelings lol It will always be #1

[@svenfruiti494]

Omg... This would be amazing. We have to support this cause mmorpgs only, survive with many players.. And since the 3ds is current gen console anymore this could be really hard

[@falseknight4371]

im trying to make a runescape in gamemaker, i am looking forward to ur copy of runescape, we need more runescapes in gaming! Also thanks for including rayman music it made me think of how great the past was.

[@Vexe]

There actually was a car MMO for a second. I remember getting it and being disappointed. It was called Auto Assault. I don't think they marketed it as an MMO really, but it was!

[@hellsfirefreedomtube6984]

5:07 This Racing MMORPG kinda reminds me of a PS2 game called Smugglers Run. Try looking into it if you haven’t played it. It was a fun game I enjoyed playing back in the day. Maybe it will help inspire some things in the game your making

[@leoworthington-bourg6120]

So sick, plz try your darnedest to keep it for 3DS!!!

[@paintyum]

I'm in love with this

[@shrippie-4214]

That's cool I always wondered about porting to 3DS probably custom engine is the best option

[@zorro-tramposo2652]

A fun setting would be like rc cars in a backyard! Thats what i thought when i saw the car driving around the minecraft world

[@rulric8772]

you are nuts. subscribed.

[@AllHailKingGila]

Okay I really love this concept. Different skill moves or specific rotations activate special moves? Theres alot of room to work in this concept?

[@PowerHungryFool]

Looks really good, but it being cars really kills it for me. Best of luck with your project though!

[@Dinglemancer]

Thanks! Some others have mentioned that they don't like having a car as their main character. Someone mentioned having a humanoid on a hoverboard, which could be a cool idea!

[@just_a_rock]

A smaller multiplayer mode with peer to peer connection between players while one of them hosts could work. Running a more powerful server than a 3DS & allowing players to connect to a larger multiplayer game could work too!

[@antologik3300]

I would love to have a 3ds verision. This project looks promising.

[@stardust-kyun]

Woah! New video!!

[@elcar5468]

As a former Rocket League player put off by the sweaty toxic playerbase I love this concept. I also love the 3Ds so this is an awesome project. In case this information interests you, I no longer use my 3ds and instead use citra on my Meta headset for the 3D effect.

[@leonardooliveiramodesto1690]

this is awesome!!!!

[@MrGaBorloth]

você é brasileiro? Lua é daqui e ragnarok é uma referência bem forte aqui, sucesso no projeto!!

[@Dinglemancer]

I'm American, but when I played iRO, I met a lot of Brasilian players. And thanks!

[@EpicBeinieCapDude]

this pleases the council

[@paoloromero6076]

you are a mad man good luck to

[@Zyico]

i would love to have this as a game to play on my 3ds to play with my brother would love to see this happen

[@chopper3875]

I love the 3ds. I want to make a game on it too one day

[@rururusack]

ragnarok online is the best mmorpg for me, played a lots since first release 2004 with my friends create guild , hunting mvp boss, guild war.

[@cafemiope5451]

pretty cool idea, hope you get to finish the game are you intending to make it run on old 3ds or new 3ds only?

[@Dinglemancer]

Yeah, the game might only be available on New 3DS. Old 3DS is going to be a challenge to optimize for... but we'll see.

[@dd-v]

I would legit buy this for 3ds

[@merthyr1831]

The concept sounds a bit like Crossout's open world gamemode. Think you might find some influence there!

[@uiDende]

I have a New 3ds home brewed, I would definitely play

[@theburntcrumpet8371]

I'm not sure how well a rocket powered car as the player character will work. It might be fun, but there might be more opportunity for varied gameplay if the car is just a mount, to traverse the world

[@trumtrum5136]

Whoa, rad

[@RhaloODST]

do Monster hunter/Phantasy star online style lobbys, central lobby to do social activities and 4 player lobbies for the actual gameplay

[@ArthDragon14]

i was literally playing ragnarok online right now before watching this video haha

[@grzesiek9514]

Can you share some details about world landscape export from blender? Also how you sculpted terrain to make it optimized for game?

[@Dinglemancer]

I used the technique that this reddit comment explains: www.reddit.com/r/blender/comments/15a8me3/comment/jtjfwkd/? I think I used this resource for the export script: www.versluis.com/2021/12/how-to-export-multiple-objects-from-blender-as-obj-or-fbx/ And the terrain isn't really optimized or anything. I just used a really low resolution. I might add LODs in the future.

[@cmbaz1140]

How about making it more like battle bots inspired? With that you can combine the stuff you want to have in the game while leaving room to expand. also close combat could become viable and the "cars" more customizable...also since the battle bots kinda look "polygon-ish" anyways it could work well for the 3ds.