Making a proper DIY sprung wheel

[@beekaa5]

6:17 Vlad: "Oi, oi oi oi oioioioi" Translation: "Okay, there seems to be a problem" XD

[@marv8481]

I take it that’s like our “woah. woah. Woah! WOAH!” In industry lol

[@auggatronicRoblox_official]

“seems”

[@joe125ful]

Typical:)

[@pseudointelligence5964]

@@marv8481 I hear Hispanic use it too.

[@gabrielvieira6529]

"Oi" means "Hello/Hi" in Brazilian Portuguese

[@zsombor_99]

I suggesting to make 1 or 3 more of this, and try to drive completely on spring wheels! 😉

[@basidhsajan2398]

Also remove the suspension and give all the work to the wheels

[@zsombor_99]

@@basidhsajan2398 But first, test with the suspension in place, because maybe removing it would be a bit too much...

[@phead9999]

It would be interesting to see how it feels under acceleration or braking with two spring wheels on the same axle, or with 4 spring wheels. Some kind of slack I guess

[@xxsaltytryhardxx3295]

You misspelled “sprung”, LOL 😂!!!!

[@zsombor_99]

@@xxsaltytryhardxx3295 Nope. "Spring" has a season meaning as well. I don't know what English (US or UK) are you using, but "Spring" also means "that spiral thing". I used "spring" in "wheel made out of" meaning. Okay?

[@RideRevival]

Reducing unsprung weight by converting it to spring weight. Genius.

[@evergreatest7644]

This comment is underrated in my opinion, but also, people gives exactly 0 fu©ks about my opinion.

[@nbze1641]

@@evergreatest7644 dame

[@teardowndan5364]

Normal tires are basically a pneumatic spring. If you want less un-sprung weight, use tires with taller side-walls mounted on smaller rims. These spring contraptions are early attempts at air-less wheels so people wouldn't have to worry about flats.

[@RideRevival]

@@evergreatest7644 I knew when I posted that most people wouldn't understand. I didn't post it for them. 👍

[@iambiggus]

I'd be upgrading the brakes, axles, bushings, shocks, bearings, etc... That's a lot more mass out on the ends of those axles.

[@rupertkingsley]

6:20 only Garage 54 could get a puncture in a solid tyre 😆

[@jasondeschenes]

Another great garage 54 video.

[@MrJdsenior]

Just shaking my head. I can't believe it actually lasted that long. I would be fun to cut a wheel rim off a larger wheel and get the right springs, and see how a decently built one actually works.

[@scdevon]

Softest ride anywhere if you got the spring rates correct on all 4 wheels.

[@brianward7550]

I'm guessing they didn't

[@danieljones317]

Sprung wheels are nothing new. I'm more interested in the lateral performance. When Michelin made the first test concept of radial tires, it didn't seem like it was going to work. On the contrary, they outperformed any bias ply tire around! So, let's see what happens!

[@norvillerodgersspeaks]

I expected the welds to delaminate violently. Amazing

[@FJPETER]

This is not a complete garage 54 video as nothing is destroyed

[@Soapbosnia]

Haha same, what weirds me out how much the guy swerves with the welder, was like 'Yup, that's gonna look like poo'

[@sfritts]

I know it would be quite a bit of work, but it would be awesome to see this on all 4 wheels.

[@1984xlx]

I agree. Then take the car through some slaloms and see how it does.

[@Rebar77_real]

With way less springs. Get it floating.

[@hollow34]

It looks pretty cool from a distance, all 4 wheels would be epic.

[@lokiatremis5287]

I definitely agree looks awesome as aha would make you look !

[@dudenamedclem]

Hope you guys get more springs and make all four wheels with springs, curious how they all work together!

[@skuula]

Remove the shocks with that...

[@nicholasbrown519]

5:18 You could fit six hydrocoptic marzelvanes, that would effectively prevented the sidefumbling.

[@RipRoaringGarage]

I know right? The main winding was totally NOT Lotuso Delta type. And they didnt even have panendermic semi-boloid slots on their stator! Although I was pleasantly surprised they used a Ding alarm. Gotta watch out for that sinusoidal deplanaration.

[@haltermalter6815]

That would only work if properly fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft. Also every seventh spring should have been connected by a non-reversible tremie pipe to the differential girdle spring

[@AE92World]

@@RipRoaringGarage what EDIT: lol nevermind went straight over my head

[@RipRoaringGarage]

@@AE92World I imagine a LOT of people wont get this...it was a mechanic meme before the internet existed LOL. Its funny because Im editing a video, and I literally just used this Chrysler vhs recording!

[@QuantumLeap83]

Also definitely need a baseplate of prefamulated amulite. It would be best if surmounted by some sort of maleable lagorythmic casing so those hydrocoptic marzlevanes can be aligned with at least two spurving bearings.

[@oooppiikkk]

i want this wheel on that super fast tire spinning contraption

[@richardthomas1743]

It actually look pretty cool on the vehicle !

[@Universal.G]

Anyone else notice how the springs look like they are spinning while the wheel is turning! Pretty neat illusion.

[@jaredpoboisk9094]

Run a car full throttle in an enclosed container of some sort. Cheap n' easy. LOVE THIS CHANNEL.

[@shaolinmaster8583]

i feel like we need a shop tour they must have some crazy stuff laying around

[@russbilzing5348]

Okay, I've stopped this at 1.03 because I have a point to make. No matter how "robust" they seem to be as you try to compress them, you are in error on how a wheel works. On a bicycle wheel, which spoke bears the weight of the bike? Short answer, the one at the top of the wheel. It is literally hanging on the nipple/wheel interface, not bearing down on the bottom one or it would go straight through the inner tube and into the ground. Point made, let's go on. Those canted rings around the springs in the old photo are for the control of the section of the outer ring/road surface interface, since the springs have no stable relationship with the inner (hub) center. These act in a sort of conciliatory manner, preventing the two from escaping concentricity or, at least, limiting the excess. Without them, the wheel, in time, will stretch all the springs (the reason you need spokes), and try to acheive a 360 degree pivotal travel every time you turn the wheel to change direction. This 'experiment' cannot succed for the reasons stated. HOWEVER; it is certainly fun to watch, costs me nothing, allows me to turn off my brain while watching something destroy itself like piece of kinetic art, and gives the translator the opportunity to make a series of sophomoric puns, which HAS to be difficult while simultaneously translating one language understandably into another. My piece being said, I'm going to shut up and go back to watch how this all turns out. Thanks, I love this series and your channel.

[@nophdcoyote3635]

Never clickbait. Always exactly what the thumbnail implies.

[@carpediemarts705]

So this demonstrates that the normal sidewall of the old boring pneumatic tire is a lot more important than we understood. Handling AND the WHOLE sidewall keeps the tire from compressing.

[@carlbModels]

fantastic effort lads, we appreciate your work, so we don't have to do it. Excellent as ever. 😀👍🍺🇬🇧

[@Gkitchens1]

The rings around the coil springs in the original picture act as leaf springs. They cushion the force in the coil springs and take some of the force so the coils don't bind.

[@katryna2476]

Hey guys, great expierment! Suggestion, what about after you get the metal wheel made, you spray the outside with truck bed liner spray. It might give the feel of a tire without actually being a tire.

[@bazilwreckerloughead]

I wonder what it'd be like to use this concept on all 4 corners after removing all the springs & shocks from the car.

[@jeremywhittington7605]

I like how they didn’t beat around the bush... they just told you what they were going to do and”sprung”into action! Lol, I know , I’m terrible

[@37jayeshpatil90]

Put small gas shocks in every Spring fitted on sprung wheel for better Spring rebound like gas struct suspension & fit fat tire wall tire & put it on top of sprung wheel so that the Tire will not Get off while driving and fill little bit nitrogen gas in Tire to help the spring to unsprung & and handle the extra weight of passenger & car itself. Fitting Stiff spring will only make ride harsh will kill comfort. Hope it's helpful & Functional idea.

[@eduardojud56]

when we project suspensions we use something like this in calculation to simplify the mechanics of tire

[@EbilGeneyus]

You need to put cables inside the springs to limit the amount of stretch when the wheel is hanging from the top springs. This is how spokes on a motorcycle work. It'll keep the springs on the bottom from collapsing.

[@JENi-vx3yn]

Use small leaf springs welded diagonally to the wheel. No wobble side to side then, and more grip.

[@methanial73]

I'm glad you guys sprang into action with this video.

[@BITTYBOY121]

Garage 54 - This was awesome ! - Please make a wooden wheel and see how that holds up !

[@jacobopstad5483]

I really want to do this. I recently had a catastrophic event after a tire blew out on my handcart. With springy wheels, I would never have to worry about blowouts again.

[@jverano1298]

They the mythbusters but for cars love you guys

[@BlackPill-pu4vi]

The original Garage 54 spring rims used actual suspension springs and mounted them in the back. The next iteration should be to use Lada front coil springs on all four wheels

[@drazendd]

You can upgrade wheels, glue rubber and metal, you can prevent moisture between rubber and metal.

[@Ogsonofgroo]

Finding this episode was the best B-day present!

[@Dcc357]

Most reliable thing I've seen this channel make.

[@Mrpurple75]

That rear wheel close up is pretty rad. The tire looks like it’s going one way but the lugs are going the other way

[@kkuukkoo2]

Very nice work, suggestion for future projects like this: cut outer ring from something like water boiler of similar tank (much thicker and seamless).

[@PabloHassan68]

I love how all thes videos are very often completely pointless, still you do this stuff with so much curiosity and passion that one loves to view it to the end :)) keep on going guys

[@barryphillips7327]

What Garage 54 needed to do was make four of these so the whole car was on them, then out on say a track and give it HELL haha lol. Without the rubber tread it will handle like a dog on wet polished lino floor haha lol. Years ago i had a 1500 Lada sedan, to be fair it was not a bad car, comfy ride, excellent rust proofing, it was reliable, handling and fuel consumption were just ok, they are heavier than an equivalent model like say an Mk2 Escort.

[@C-M-E]

I suspect the person(s) who made the all metal version were sick of changing tires after slogging around on dirt roads over extended distances, though more amazing, I half expected the heat from welding would have affected the tension in the spring steel. Very surprised at the results! A group of guys at Michelin are feverish writing notes no doubt.

[@Nahkapeippo]

Yeah! This is a real RunFat-wheel! Always fully "inflated".

[@Gkitchens1]

"that's why this concept never gained any traction" haaaaass! Zing!

[@dlby3]

Another awesome video! You definitely need to make 4 of these. You always make me laugh 😅 👍

[@MAGA_Trump_Warrior]

Spring tires are available for zero turn mowers now a days

[@WilliamTythas]

a couple layers of textured rubberized truck bed liner painted on the outer rim... hell a layer spayed over the whole thing would probably make it quiet and give it some traction

[@Novusod]

The reason spring tires never became popular was because they were 10 ten times more expensive to manufacture than a rubber tire.

[@stevie-ray2020]

Plus they're real buggers to balance!

[@tylerbonser7686]

Only one of the reasons.

[@mediocreman2]

These days the tires are more expensive than the wheels lol

[@excelsior2433]

With tired being $50-$200 a piece for a car like this, it probably wouldn't be much more expensive

[@Pavlos_Charalambous]

03:00 it was the central powers during ww1 running out of rubber.. The problem with those tireless wheels was that was literally tearing apart the road network 😁

[@silentferret1049]

Springs like that in beds would be better (although not them as they can't support the load but like them). They start small and widen out at the end allowing the spring to over compress on itself. Given how the wheel is they would easily fit as there is a larger gap on the outer than in the inner. For the tire keeping on, a pair of steel straps running in a grove on the outside and using a rivet into the sheet on the other side. be far harder for them to pop out and keep the tire from wanting to shift around on the wheel.

[@DarkestVampire92]

Would be interesting to see them make a metal wheel thats treaded, so basically a car wheel with a profile like a tank tread.

[@cameronbarry1996]

@Riggsvsoliver they would probably just drum off an existing wheel similarly to this and weld on "tread" pieces. It would certainly be heavy, but definitely not enough to prevent a good video and test drive like this. Probably still weigh less than the 30 inch wheels on donks

[@operator8014]

Maybe some sidewall rubber between the coils to firm the spring up and prevent coils being able to fully close?

[@killerdinamo08]

That green estate Lada is becoming a classic of experiments 😃!

[@maintenanceman4800]

Yeah! The new airless spare "tire".

[@High.on.Life_DnB]

Love the paint pendulum design on the car

[@theFLCLguy]

They should try to make a flying Lada. I believe in them, they are my favorite Russian engineers.

[@skuula]

Might actually work. A car that drives to speed normally, then rotates and flies. Needs to be very tail heavy on the wheels though, so it can lift the front with just the leverage from the elevator.

[@bbgun061]

Top Gear made a flying Robin Reliant...

[@MarkoDash]

this kind kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKGbmamvn7-KftU

[@nikunjparekh5614]

Good spring wheels, Good work.

[@2Guys1CarTV]

I suggest y'all make a car that basically drives off of a drill. So mount a single drill into the engine bay with a few batteries, manipulate the trigger wires so you can control the speed from the cabin and then see if the car drives. I would love to see this guy's.

[@johnmorton7577]

Wow wild! love the work amazing results

[@blakehussey]

It’s like we’re reliving history reinventing the wheel

[@criper80]

good you can weld spring steel! anyway i would have had installed them crossed, like spokes in a bicycle wheel

[@johngillon6969]

hate it when some one uses screws to hold the rubber on the iron rims. I am always finding screws that come out of these contraptions and end up flattening my poor tires.

[@BILLMONERY]

Add studs for winter or paddles like on a skidoo track and the traction in snow should be 107%

[@crisphol33]

Miss your videos, keep em coming:)

[@MistaBreed]

Thank you for the translation! Great channel! Keep on doing things some people should better not try at home!

[@tomtheyankee3646]

These guys are crazy cool.

[@Draxindustries1]

25mm x 10mm thick strips of rubber glued to the circumference would probably work well. Greeting from Russia (Girood). ♥️

[@peeweeherman5590]

Just when I thought you would run out of experiments.. more goodies are in my suggestions

[@6Twisted]

You should try a thread spoked tyre next. You'd need some strong thread but apparently it's stronger than steel spokes, better at shock absorption and lighter.

[@oskarsigns]

Love the zoetrope effect

[@davidvincent1093]

The only thing I could see as doing different - and it would be really hard - would be to cut, bend and form the outer "tire" with steel diamond plate. That would give you a harder ride but a lot more traction in snow and sand

[@aeliar]

Try welding "X" pattern on the wheel on the outside, and make 4 of them :) Also a bit stiffer springs can help.

[@williamapodaca8614]

Those welds make me feel so much better, ngl.

[@2Buildor2Break]

42 springs per wheel, retainers, And soften the tread with Acetone. Then Strong Glue.

[@travismoore7849]

Well that was pretty much what I was thinking. But maybe the whole tire so the springs don't rust from water?

[@-A-Hybrid-Skunk-Productions-]

That is awesome. Maybe you could do a version with all wheels like that wheel? Or atleast on the back of a front wheel drive?

[@Zorro9129]

This seems like a great idea if you're facing caltrops.

[@N07hank5]

i watched this video 6 months ago and I just had an idea for it! what if instead of using a solid round plate around the outside of the wheel, you use tank track style plates of metal around the outside, one plate on each row of springs, linked together by another plate that goes between each sprung plate

[@busyguy7479]

this is is what sparks ideas .

[@bogdandimov5729]

If you pay attention you can see how the angles between the springs and the outer wheel changed the more this guy drove the car. I guess in longer term this will lead to the sprung wheel not being able to hold effectively the weight of the car.

[@Maeryaenus]

The desing can be improved. Springs with cone-shape to cover all the undertire side, and springs alignment shoud be a bit offset to increase smoothness

[@jjhack3r]

Only in Russia are people so dedicated to their curiosity and passion... Lol must be amazing to live or work nearby. Every day would be a roll of the dice as far as what you might see rolling down the street haha

[@liljohnp132]

Short strips of rubber put on individually may work better than one strip of rubber for the tread.

[@garykee1]

loving this! it would be interesting if you put that particular wheel on a balancer and spin it up. would be interesting to see how well and how much wheel weights it would take to make it balance properly! hahahaha! thank you for a great video! (might destroy the balancer however)

[@theblueboy20]

Great stuff going on here 👍

[@johnstamper2965]

Should have cut the outside ring between each row of springs so they could independently flex as the roll.

[@wizardindustriesusa]

“If I’m right, this is why this concept never gained any traction..” 😂

[@carpediemarts705]

The original coilspring vid was the biggest thing that got Garage54 on the map.

[@davebeckley2584]

I thought a 'tremendous success' is when parts fly off the car with huge flames enveloping the engine compartment so we get concerned about your safety by laughing until our eyes water. Maybe I have a different interpretation of 'tremendous success. Either way, this was pretty cool. How about installing snowmobiles in place of the rear tires on a car? You could remove the engine propelling the car with the snowmobiles. You would need a linkage from the driver's seat back to the snowmobiles making the car rear-wheel steering along with the throttle control. Maybe it would be easier to pull the engine out and put the snowmobiles in the front. That would be much easier as far as steering linkage and throttle control.

[@jsswizard]

Fun stuff. Love you guys.

[@charolettebacon6740]

You guys should make 3 more of the spring wheels

[@nigelroche7888]

If you had stiffer springs and made four wheels could you lock up the cars suspension and just use the spring tyres?

[@robertmichael8036]

Will you be able to cut down suspension springs and put them around the rim to make it work better just a thought for you

[@harlech2]

I can only imagine what you guys neighbors think when you drive by LOL.

[@eliteinventor]

Y'all make some amazing things

[@Blaquer17]

what about leaf springs all around rather than coils? they would be more stable laterally

[@Drxxx]

Great experiment! Good channel

[@kpdvw]

...It is Spring time in Siberia....... 100% flat proof...

[@Driessens_Peter]

lmao, if you camouflage the sides with the tyrewalls, police roadblocks would be like wtf?! when you drive over them spikechains

[@Cooliemasteroz]

How about a normal tyre with say 8 airbags in it with each airbag connected to a spring loaded air cylinder which could possibly be mounted in a a semi circular dome the same diameter of the wheel attached to the wheel ?