Making a Real 18th Century Mincemeat pie - 1796 |Beef & Raisins?|

[@EarlyAmerican]

The best mincemeat pie that I've tried was from Hannah Glasse’s The Art of Cookery, 1747 edition (be sure that you are looking at the 1747 edition as later editions had different recipes). In this one meat was an optional addition. Maybe that's why I enjoyed it so much! The Art of Cookery, though originally published in London, was the best selling cookbook in the American colonies in 1776. It was so popular that it started to be published in the U.S. in 1805. Imagine a cookbook that is a best seller for 100 years! I have a video of the preparation of that mincemeat pie here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4rbg5Kslrqpmrs But alas, back to the one featured in this video. Today's recipe (or receipt as they used to be called) comes from American Cookery, 1796. This was the first cookbook published on American soil. Many would follow soon after. If you'd like to try it at home I have translated it into modern cooking instructions below 😊. You might love it! It doesn't taste bad whatsoever but compared to my favorite above mentioned mincemeat this one was a letdown. I just don't care for mincemeat pies that actually...have meat in them. Once you find something that you love you can't help but to compare it to everything! But others out there seem to sure love them! This is 1/4 of the original size, which would have been enough to make several pies. Minced Pie of Beef, 1796 1 pound of beef 1.5 pounds of apples 0.25 pounds of beef suet 1 cup of hard apple cider (cider was almost always alcoholic in this time) 1.5 teaspoons each of mace & cinnamon 1 teaspoon of nutmeg 1 cup of sugar 1.4 cups of raisins Pie crust, enough for a top and a bottom Boil your beef until it has browned all of the way through, or approximately 30 minutes. Remove from the water and set aside to cool. Once cool enough to handle mince by hammering it with a knife. Meanwhile, pre bake a bottom pie crust by placing it into a pie plate and baking it in a 375 degree oven for 15 minutes. Once done remove from the oven & set aside. Now peel, core and dice your apples. In a deep bowl combine the diced apples, cider, spices, sugar, raisins & minced beef. Pour into your pre-baked pie paste & cover with a top crust. Be sure to vent the top by cutting a few slits. Bake in a 400 degree oven for 40 minutes.

[@elijaharnold3346]

One of the best, if not the best historical channels on KZbin. I love your videos. They bring me so much peace!! ❤️

[@EarlyAmerican]

@@elijaharnold3346 Thank you ❤. Peace is more valuable than gold. I'm glad that I can bring some into your life.

[@shortyblackwellll]

Do you think this would work better with chicken or turkey?

[@michellew7105]

Justine, this is now my favorite one of your videos!! I love seeing Mishmish (such a beautiful kitty) and the "chicken cam", and especially when the two chickens tried to come in through the window! They wanted some mincemeat pie! 😊

[@richjdnz]

You need to visit Australia and New Zealand then, we have the BEST bakery mince pies over here. Mince and Cheese.... heaven!

[@grammyspa-jammies1737]

Cat just hanging out with the chickens. Chickens in the window. And mincemeat pie! Life can't get any better! 💕

[@victorianidetch]

"We just do things differently over here!" Understatement of a lifetime.

[@femalism1715]

The recipe I use for 'traditional mincemeat' pie calls for currents, raisins, apples, candied ginger and candied citrus peels, apple cider, dark rum, 'molasses sugar', the usual spices, suet and minced venison, lamb or beef. The pie is as much a French Canadian Réveillon family favourite as tourtiere. The chickens wanted some pie too!! Thanks Justine!

[@passionbow1]

Grew up in south east Pennsylvania about hour from Philadelphia..we always had mincemeat pie 🥧 on Thanksgiving and the ingredients you just said sound closer to what i remember

[@donnajeffries7913]

I love mincemeat pie. But-- I can make it better than this. And with an extra kick! (Know what I mean?).😅

[@JadeStrawberry]

My mom made her homemade mincemeat which she would can. She did use suet, but not the meat, just a lot of apples and raisins. Your apron is very pretty, Justine.

[@heatherfitzgibbon]

I think my mom used something called "Non Such" for her mincemeat pies. It looks like you can still buy it! It never appealed to me, so no surprise that Justine didn't like it!

[@teresahegerich8835]

My grandma canned her mincemeat too. She cooked the meat in apple cider vinegar until it fell apart first, shredded it, then added the fruits and spices. She made pies and handheld tarts with the mixture. It's my favorite holiday pie!

[@Ohsnapitzann]

The content on this channel makes me deeply love and appreciate the hard work and sacrifices that my irish ancestors made to create a better life.

[@maryschoneman3848]

We always had mincemeat pie at Christmas and Thanksgiving. I make them every year now for the family holidays. However, we topped it with “hard sauce”. Melt 1/2 cup butter and stir in 1 lb powdered sugar. Beat til smooth then add 2 tablespoons boiling water. Then add brandy, whiskey or rum to taste, about 1/2 cup or so, beating well. Refrigerate to set up. Mom always made a big bowl of this sauce, and we kids would eat it by the spoonful right out of the fridge. The alcohol is not cooked off, so we were always the happiest of children during the holidays. 😄😄😄

[@littlehummingbird1015]

my mom would make hard sauce now and then...but I forget what we used it with. Some sweet....

[@allmylovetolongago7605]

Mincemeat was my favorite pie when I was small. My grandma (mom’s mom) made her own using either beef or venison and her own spices and dried fruit. It was fantastic. One thanksgiving my other grandma (dad’s mom) asked me what kind of pie I wanted. I said mincemeat and so she bought a jar of “mincemeat pie filling” and dumped it in a pie crust. It was awful. Then she got mad when I wouldn’t eat it. She made my parents take the rest of the pie home, I think it ultimately ended up in the compost heap.

[@allmylovetolongago7605]

@@kaersten3623 no, I meant my maternal grandmother vs my paternal grandmother.

[@jennymcdonald7684]

My mom made the same....I loved it. When you say mincemeat now all they think of is the jar kind 🤢

[@cynthiapena1141]

I have never had mincemeat pie, but wouldn't mind trying it. It definitely looked good. Thanks Justine.

[@grammyspa-jammies1737]

It's one of my favorites. Yummy!

[@bonniemoon6790]

Always love seeing your lil animals in addition to the wonderful and unique recipes you make, the facts about the meat pies at the end was also a treat. Thanks for posting :)

[@SchoeneTante]

My mother's cousin occasionally brought mincemeat pies to Thanksgiving dinner when I was a child. I don't recall if it was the old-fashioned kind that actually had meat in it or not.

[@safffff1000]

My mom made this every Thanksgiving and Christmas and I loved it, I'm commenting before I even watch this. It's one of the things I miss since my mom passed. after watching, there is much more beef in your pie than my mom used

[@arvillawolfe6770]

My mom still makes mincemeat, but we use pork tenderloin, apples, raisins, and currants and grape juice is used also. The biggest difference I see, is that we also use a hand grinder (I think it was my great-grandmother's) to grind everything together several times. By doing the grinding, you can't tell the there's any meat. It's very time consuming, so we only get it for Thanksgiving and Christmas. It's my favorite holiday pie!! :) When we first discussed pies, my husband thought it sounded awful and initially didn't want to try it. So, when he saw it and asked what it was, I just told him it was a yummy pie and to give it a taste. I didn't tell him until after he asked for seconds that it was minced meat pie. Now, he asks my mom to make a separate one to bring home!!

[@mayday802]

My Grandmother and Mother made mincemeat pie and mincemeat cookies. They used venison instead of beef. The recipe you followed appears a rough version of what later became more flavorful packed with more fruits (mostly dried and I recall golden raisins,) spices, molasses, and less meat. Interesting to see how old recipes were tweeked by using different influences and additions to change ingredients and make a better tasting treat.

[@anniekinsmishkamouse7575]

My Nana's mincemeat was made with deer neck, apples, suet, currants, raisins and spices. One time my Mom made a miscalculation and we ended up needing another bushel of apples. No fancy peeling machine, just four sets of hands and an old grinder. We made so much and canned it. It truly was amazing.

[@Tolen8925]

A happy life lies in simplicity and the art of cooking is exquisite❤❤❤

[@kaersten3623]

Oh my goodness, I was just reminiscing with my mother about the mincemeat pies she used to make. She learned it from her grandmother who was born in 1892. My great-grandmother's recipe came from her great-grandmother born in Delaware in 1815. She was a Quaker. By the time the recipe reached my mom, she stopped putting beef in it but she put in little pats of lard. I remember going to school when I was little and the teacher asked us what our favorite pie was, I said mincemeat and everyone pretended to gag and die.

[@TheBriarPatch]

I enjoy these videos very much. I have my great grandmother's kitchen tools (before appliances) and still use them. Watching your show makes me think of her recipes.

[@mommyseastar5776]

We weren’t allowed to watch television during the week when I was growing up and watching my chickens was how I amused myself. 😂 This channel is ultra real.

[@deniselewis770]

Here is the place to go when you get tired of the fast-paced life, these videos are the best!! ❣

[@irenesoutar1254]

I loved the sound of the chickens walking on the dry leaves. Another great video thank you .

[@EarlyAmerican]

You're right that is a pleasant sound. They rake through the leaves looking for a bite to eat.

[@xaphan8581]

This has got to be one of the most creative cooking channels I’ve ever seen

[@Isybisy88]

A very traditional German recipe is beef roast with raisins. The beef is pickled in vinegar and spices for days and then very slowly cooked. Most soft and tender meat ever! The raisins are added to the gravy. Often its served with red cabbage, where you can add apples in. Tastes delicious.

[@debcard6225]

You & Mish Mish look so relaxed outside while baking the pie! 💕

[@MarkWYoung-ky4uc]

Looks good Justine. The chickens are beautiful and I love Alfred's commentary.

[@robingoff677]

I don’t know how my step dad’s mom made her mincemeat pies…..but hers looked totally different than yours. I think she would make 7 or 8:of them to get through the holidays. There was never any left. And nope, I never tried them. But she made an amazing whiskey cake with black walnuts that I could never get enough of…..lol. She was born in 1912. She would have them for Thanksgiving through Christmas.

[@terryrice6282]

Traditional mincemeat has wild game meat in it. I was told by my great grandmother. Fruit was added to sweeten the pie. It was a holiday favorite when it was carefully spiced.

[@johndayan7126]

The modern American palate just isn't used to meat+sweet together (except for sweet barbaque sauces, etc.) so this is just going to seem weird. But probably totally delicious if you are used to it. We grew up eating sauerkraut, and love it, but I'm sure that is horrifying to people who didn't grow up eating it. And I love the "Chicken Cam"! Another great episode. Peace be with you friends.

[@avashnea]

It's not 'meat and sweet' that's the problem. It's beef and sweet. Pork would probably go MUCH better with the apples, raisins and the spices.

[@hannahsiktberg2173]

Your videos convince me I can learn to cook in a fireplace. Love this

[@AllenMZim]

I'm sorry that you didn't care for this pie, Justine! Frankly, with all of the ingredients here, I thought for sure it would have been a winner! But that's just how it goes sometimes, I guess... Regardless, this was a wonderful video and I'd actually still like to try my hand at cooking this! Thanks to you and Ron both! Cheers!

[@giacngoaudio]

Oh my gosh, that looks absolutely fabulous. I can’t wait to make it! Thank you for sharing this recipe!

[@writerinrwanda]

In the UK at Christmas, we serve 'mince pies' which aren't actually made from minced meat, but from mixed dried fruit. Eaten by themselves or with cream or ice-cream. Way back in ye olde times, they were actually made from minced meat and fruit - very much what you've made here. We didn't like it either, so changed the recipe 😄

[@mitchellkruszyna109]

My favorite pie!! Thanks for making this! You guys are awesome!!!

[@EarlyAmerican]

Our pleasure!

[@EvanFitzherbert]

I made mincemeat last week . Beef,apples ,oranges ,lemon , raisins ,molasses and all the spices . I grind the first four ingredients together . It cooks all day . Made enough for 6 pies.

[@Msfelixthecatz]

That looks amazing! I want to make it for the holidays. Thank you!!

[@frick566]

My Grandfather absolutely loved mock mincemeat pies..my mom would make him 2 every Thanksgiving and Christmas!

[@jimgrant4348]

Like many others, we had minced meat pie for the holidays. Ours always included beef, venison, suet, apples, raisins, cranberries, and a touch of brandy and rum. I don't remember all the spices, etc. but it was a real treat.

[@michellejohnson9202]

Watching those sweetie chickens eat is so much better than television!

[@twincrier6971]

It was good to hear from Alfred Fig again. He has such a soothing voice. 🥕

[@tedstrikertwa800]

Bless. This reminded me of my dear old Nan's meat pies she used to bake. Except without the apples and raisins. Must be one of those _use what ever you have in the cupboard_ recipes. You have some real nice chickens. They're really relaxing to watch and listen to, especially when they are content, like yours. They can be highly amusing too 🤣

[@leahmollytheblindcatnordee3586]

I have never had mincemeat pie, but my mother would sometimes say she wished she had some. But I'm glad she never made us eat it. I don't think I would care for it. She was born in 1922 and lived on a farm. Thanks for the memories.

[@cleocatra9324]

It’s good without the meat just apple raisins and spices

[@C-TOS]

Mr. Rabbit spitting straight facts as always.

[@TreasureRescue]

I love mincemeat pie without the meat. Crosse and Blackwell make a jarred filling with brandy, just pour in a shell and bake. I would love to try and make my own though.

[@missypyxi]

This recipe reminds me of that time Rachel didn't realize the recipe book pages were stuck together so she added peas and mashed potatoes and ground beef to her dessert trifle in Friends! 🤣

[@CarlainMontana406]

Greetings from Montana 👋😊 Amen for doing things the American Way! 🇺🇸❤🇺🇸❤🇺🇸 The ingredients kind of reminded me of that episode of Friends with the trifle 🤣 sorry this didn’t turn out so well…..that’s a lot of work and time to not enjoy it!! Maybe next week….hope the homestead build is going well for you two! God Bless! 😊🇺🇸❤🇺🇸

[@margui6224]

The mincemeat pie looks great. It was very interesting what Alfred was telling about this meal how people from that time celebrate Thanksgiving eating it. So different than the turkey. Thank you, Justine, for the recipe.

[@adamyouker6449]

My great grandmother, of English ancestry in Northwestern Michigan, made her mincemeat with venison versus beef.

[@WaiferThyme]

Lmao i kept thinking about Rachels Thanksgiving beef triffle from Friends! 😂😂

[@martyhanks5977]

love it all! You even had your "Happy Dance" music at the end. Thanks for the backstory on minced pies & history! #NerdyFood

[@chrismcelligott5462]

Love seeing the chickens! This receipt is interesting. Can't wait to see if you and Ron like it.

[@lauraMacKinnon321]

Mmmm, i want to taste that pie! Your house is so cozy, i keep saying.😊 And the ASMR sounds of the fire is great! Mish mish is so sweet.❤

[@JanTrewhitt]

oh yes, my grandma and Mother used to make minced meat pies at Thanksgiving. I never liked the taste of them, but it was a tradition for the family!

[@Nagamah25]

Wow I love the pie yammy keep doing nice guys ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤👍🙏🥰😍

[@countrygirl7402]

My grandmothers mincemeat pies had more spices I think, and the apples were chopped much smaller. But she used mincemeat she has prepared ahead of time and canned. It was delicious. I remember my sister in law tasting it the first time. She didnt know what it was and thought it some kind of spice pie. When we told her mincemeat was actually meat, she didnt like it anymore. 😂

[@sygnusadun4832]

Honestly if the beef isn't your cup of tea, I recommend subbing for pork loin, using a good sweet apple, and adding in a bit of red cabbage or some straight up saurkraut. Also don't be afraid to play around with your dried fruit in the mince. Find something that works more to your palate. Personally I like craisins.

[@scheralgreider5406]

I remember my grandmother's minced meat pies! I absolutely loved them! She was born in 1892. Instead of hard cider, she used brandy.

[@marciawright2600]

Our mincemeat pies have sugar and flour in them to make them stick together. I love mincemeat pie!

[@MsBusybee58]

Mincemeat pie is very popular here in Atlantic Canada!

[@WaiferThyme]

Halifax shout out! I love mince meat pie especially at Christmas! Only.. without the meat lmao.,

[@EarlyAmerican]

@@WaiferThyme same here Waifer I love mincemeat pie...without the meat.

[@MsBusybee58]

I have a delicious mincemeat pie with tomatoes instead of meat.

[@WaiferThyme]

@@MsBusybee58 mock mincemeat! From Olde Nova Scotian Kitchens?

[@MsBusybee58]

@WaiferThyme haha, not sure where the recipe came from but it's Nova Scotian!

[@rebeccaback3287]

I have never tried mince meat pie.It looks yummy! Appreciate the history lesson on it.David Back.

[@robdixon7732]

Sorry I have to miss this week. Looks delicious!

[@foxawaycottage7272]

We've always had mincemeat pie at Thanksgiving or Christmas. It included beef, but far less than what this receipt calls for. The suet was also included. It's was served in small slices with whipped cream or even vanilla ice cream. The pie turned out beautiful and the pastry was so flaky and light you could hear it when you cut into it. Absolutely, made my mouth water! I love your hens and miss mine very much. The hen walking nearest to the camera, who looks like she is wearing ear muffs...that's your green egg layer. She's an Ameraucana.

[@jancatperson8329]

A friend of mine still makes mincemeat pie with beef, the way her family has for generations. I grew up with mincemeat pie as a Thanksgiving and Christmas staple, but it was all fruit, no meat. I think the only way I could approach eating mincemeat made with beef is if I think of it as a meat pie, not a dessert pie.

[@jemmajames6719]

This was made in England in Tudor times, they often mixed sweet and savoury together, mince meat pies ie mince pies we have at Christmas in Britain obviously used to have meat in them but for centuries have just had mixed dried fruit, suet, citrus peel, spices and often alcohol in. Seen as this pie was brought over from Britain then made in the US I wonder why mince pies aren’t eaten at Christmas in the US?

[@Grincheypoo]

I had the chance to try the traditional mince meat and loved it.💜

[@sallycormier1383]

Nice crust! My mom was always a fan of minced meat pie.

[@cathylemay2215]

I've had both types of mincemeat pie. Not a huge fan of either but prefered the meaty version. The fruit based one is tasty when frozen.

[@dandarth-kc9cf]

You have the best cable tv ever. I used to watch chicken eating all the time when I used to spend time at my grandp. farm. Sometimes a quiet dinner can be disturbed and have some karate action between chickens.

[@elgroucho7563]

I really enjoy the content y’all put out! Thank you

[@SueFine]

Ah, REAL mincemeat! Not that sickeningly sweet stuff that makes haters out of everyone. Yum!

[@maryjohnson3685]

My great great grandmother immigrated from England in the mid 1800s. We always had mincemeat pie for Thanksgiving and Christmas but they used suet no meat. I was taught how to make Plum pudding for Christmas. There are also a number of boiled in a crust (tied up by a string) cooked over a fire dinners you can make that are actually very good. I only ate a spoonfull of mincemeat pie. But my grandmother and great aunt always made it.

[@allieeverett9017]

My great aunt made homemade mincemeat pies with suet. I didn't like anything when I was a kid, but I liked her pie. Go figure...

[@rosemariemello6675]

Seems Mish Mish is getting along with the chickens, he's living his best life ❤

[@Rebeka1589]

🤍🕊️💐great beautiful new adventures in this new year for you guys. A new chapter 🌱

[@noirhorror197]

Oh, I meant to tell you. I had never used Mace before and was currious so I bought some. Yesterday I made the best beef stew ever and I used Mace, Garlic, Salt and Pepper. Thx!!

[@Theonlygracius]

My biological father grew up with his family making mincemeat pie from the deer they caught. As a child I could not fathom have a meat pie that was sweet, but the way he'd tell it was the pie was so sweet you wouldn't have even known there was meat in it. Never had it but I'd love to someday!

[@LisaG442]

I made mincemeat once with beef, it wasn’t horrible but I can see why it fell out of favour for just the fruit. Suet is completely tasteless and I always use that in my mincemeat, it keeps for ages with suet. I really love this channel!

[@mamkhr]

We had mincemeat pie every Christmas. Mum would make it a month before so it could sit in the brandy. Even as a kid, I enjoyed. Good memories. Thank you, Justine.

[@vickismith9142]

My granma made that it was good but lots of raisins I love watchin you and Ron first time it let me chat! Good work Justine!❤😊

[@TheRealJules]

When I was young, we had a coop and chickens! Dad had gotten a bunch of chicks. I thought they looked hungry so I put them in the feeder where they apparently suffocated. (I thought they had gone to sleep. 😳) Dad was unhappy. 😢

[@pattimickelson9861]

Never tried mince meat pie.. However all of the ingredients you put in that pie looked pretty good

[@abbyechevarria5322]

Thank you for sharing your video. Very nice. I don’t care for mince pie, but it was nice to watch.👍😊

[@Scrabbledat]

I watch your videos before bed to calm my mind for a better sleep. Thank you😊

[@daughteroftheblackmadonna8936]

We always had a mincemeat pie on our Thanksgiving table. Pumpkin, Apple, and Mincemeat. My mother always made it with a lattice crust.

[@RustyGlovebox]

That looks so good 😋👍

[@DingbadYoutube]

We cooked our fruit and meat together with spices and honey before baking. Thanks for showing how it was done earlier.

[@annedavis6090]

a week ago my brother brought up our great aunt's mincemeat pies..same type recipe..very traditional ..i wasnt a big fan, but he loved them.🥧

[@pamp5797]

Hello Dear. Watching this again. Yours is my favorite channel. I love real mince meat. Chickens are amusing.

[@dawnberthold3894]

I would definitely try this pie. it looks really good. My 4 year old granddaughter loves your channel, too. I'm looking forward to Friday.

[@heidipustelniak652]

My dad always said grow up on the farm, they didn’t need television. They had the animals to keep them entertained.

[@leanabraziel3742]

I'm in my 60s and I've loved mince pie since childhood. No meat though. "Non such mince" pie in a jar or a box. It's very rich & lots of flavor. It's juicy and I crave it..yum

[@chloemartel9927]

Why I am so full I don't think I could eat a bite.

[@sljallen]

I've canned mincemeat for around 20 years with out meat. . I'VE bought mincemeat from church groups and in stores with very little meat in it anymore. All delicious mine has a bit of orang in it. Green tomato mincemeat is nice to. Must be an acquired taste

[@deniserichard4074]

Always hated mincemeat pie, but I still like watching you and see how things where done years ago

[@Cinemaphile7783]

The long rifle and powder horn really pulls it all together 😊

[@therese1226]

I had mince pie with meat as a child and hated it. As an adult someone gave me a recipe for mince pie that uses green tomatoes and apples that is phenomenal.

[@johnosborn2555]

Mom baked them for every Christmas holiday, but that was over forty years ago.

[@loridavis5699]

I love that cottage!!!

[@karenmcpherson9221]

I had a recipe for mincemeat pie that called for venison and bear. I don't remember the rest of it but you preserved it in jars with brine for use all winter.

[@terryt.1643]

I was never a fan of mincemeat growing up. I think ours used to have meat in them. There were always pumpkin and mincemeat pies for Thanksgiving. Loved pumpkin 🎃👍

[@americanresolutionist7272]

My initial thought on this is to use ground beef, browned and drained. Then add molasses and apples, raisins suet and plenty of nutmeg, clove and cinnamon and allspice. I think this should be sweet and savory.

[@hollyf.7846]

We're gonna need more chicken cam footage. 😂 Love your nosey little flock!