Making a Real 18th Century Mincemeat pie - 1796 |Beef & Raisins?|

An American published recipe for mincemeat pie? This British classic was once just as popular across the ocean. Let's see just one of the many examples of how it was once made. To be frank...I've had better. 😳
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[@EarlyAmerican]

The best mincemeat pie that I've tried was from Hannah Glasse’s The Art of Cookery, 1747 edition (be sure that you are looking at the 1747 edition as later editions had different recipes). In this one meat was an optional addition. Maybe that's why I enjoyed it so much! The Art of Cookery, though originally published in London, was the best selling cookbook in the American colonies in 1776. It was so popular that it started to be published in the U.S. in 1805. Imagine a cookbook that is a best seller for 100 years! I have a video of the preparation of that mincemeat pie here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4rbg5Kslrqpmrs But alas, back to the one featured in this video. Today's recipe (or receipt as they used to be called) comes from American Cookery, 1796. This was the first cookbook published on American soil. Many would follow soon after. If you'd like to try it at home I have translated it into modern cooking instructions below 😊. You might love it! It doesn't taste bad whatsoever but compared to my favorite above mentioned mincemeat this one was a letdown. I just don't care for mincemeat pies that actually...have meat in them. Once you find something that you love you can't help but to compare it to everything! But others out there seem to sure love them! This is 1/4 of the original size, which would have been enough to make several pies. Minced Pie of Beef, 1796 1 pound of beef 1.5 pounds of apples 0.25 pounds of beef suet 1 cup of hard apple cider (cider was almost always alcoholic in this time) 1.5 teaspoons each of mace & cinnamon 1 teaspoon of nutmeg 1 cup of sugar 1.4 cups of raisins Pie crust, enough for a top and a bottom Boil your beef until it has browned all of the way through, or approximately 30 minutes. Remove from the water and set aside to cool. Once cool enough to handle mince by hammering it with a knife. Meanwhile, pre bake a bottom pie crust by placing it into a pie plate and baking it in a 375 degree oven for 15 minutes. Once done remove from the oven & set aside. Now peel, core and dice your apples. In a deep bowl combine the diced apples, cider, spices, sugar, raisins & minced beef. Pour into your pre-baked pie paste & cover with a top crust. Be sure to vent the top by cutting a few slits. Bake in a 400 degree oven for 40 minutes.

[@elijaharnold3346]

One of the best, if not the best historical channels on KZbin. I love your videos. They bring me so much peace!! ❤️

[@EarlyAmerican]

@@elijaharnold3346 Thank you ❤. Peace is more valuable than gold. I'm glad that I can bring some into your life.

[@shortyblackwellll]

Do you think this would work better with chicken or turkey?

[@michellew7105]

Justine, this is now my favorite one of your videos!! I love seeing Mishmish (such a beautiful kitty) and the "chicken cam", and especially when the two chickens tried to come in through the window! They wanted some mincemeat pie! 😊

[@richjdnz]

You need to visit Australia and New Zealand then, we have the BEST bakery mince pies over here. Mince and Cheese.... heaven!

[@grammyspa-jammies1737]

Cat just hanging out with the chickens. Chickens in the window. And mincemeat pie! Life can't get any better! 💕

[@victorianidetch]

"We just do things differently over here!" Understatement of a lifetime.

[@duchessofautumn]

The content on this channel makes me deeply love and appreciate the hard work and sacrifices that my irish ancestors made to create a better life.

[@JadeStrawberry]

My mom made her homemade mincemeat which she would can. She did use suet, but not the meat, just a lot of apples and raisins. Your apron is very pretty, Justine.

[@heatherfitzgibbon]

I think my mom used something called "Non Such" for her mincemeat pies. It looks like you can still buy it! It never appealed to me, so no surprise that Justine didn't like it!

[@teresahegerich8835]

My grandma canned her mincemeat too. She cooked the meat in apple cider vinegar until it fell apart first, shredded it, then added the fruits and spices. She made pies and handheld tarts with the mixture. It's my favorite holiday pie!

[@femalism1715]

The recipe I use for 'traditional mincemeat' pie calls for currents, raisins, apples, candied ginger and candied citrus peels, apple cider, dark rum, 'molasses sugar', the usual spices, suet and minced venison, lamb or beef. The pie is as much a French Canadian Réveillon family favourite as tourtiere. The chickens wanted some pie too!! Thanks Justine!

[@passionbow1]

Grew up in south east Pennsylvania about hour from Philadelphia..we always had mincemeat pie 🥧 on Thanksgiving and the ingredients you just said sound closer to what i remember

[@donnajeffries7913]

I love mincemeat pie. But-- I can make it better than this. And with an extra kick! (Know what I mean?).😅

[@maryschoneman3848]

We always had mincemeat pie at Christmas and Thanksgiving. I make them every year now for the family holidays. However, we topped it with “hard sauce”. Melt 1/2 cup butter and stir in 1 lb powdered sugar. Beat til smooth then add 2 tablespoons boiling water. Then add brandy, whiskey or rum to taste, about 1/2 cup or so, beating well. Refrigerate to set up. Mom always made a big bowl of this sauce, and we kids would eat it by the spoonful right out of the fridge. The alcohol is not cooked off, so we were always the happiest of children during the holidays. 😄😄😄

[@littlehummingbird1015]

my mom would make hard sauce now and then...but I forget what we used it with. Some sweet....

[@foxawaycottage7272]

We've always had mincemeat pie at Thanksgiving or Christmas. It included beef, but far less than what this receipt calls for. The suet was also included. It's was served in small slices with whipped cream or even vanilla ice cream. The pie turned out beautiful and the pastry was so flaky and light you could hear it when you cut into it. Absolutely, made my mouth water! I love your hens and miss mine very much. The hen walking nearest to the camera, who looks like she is wearing ear muffs...that's your green egg layer. She's an Ameraucana.

[@safffff1000]

My mom made this every Thanksgiving and Christmas and I loved it, I'm commenting before I even watch this. It's one of the things I miss since my mom passed. after watching, there is much more beef in your pie than my mom used

[@bonniemoon6790]

Always love seeing your lil animals in addition to the wonderful and unique recipes you make, the facts about the meat pies at the end was also a treat. Thanks for posting :)

[@Tolen8925]

A happy life lies in simplicity and the art of cooking is exquisite❤❤❤

[@allmylovetolongago7605]

Mincemeat was my favorite pie when I was small. My grandma (mom’s mom) made her own using either beef or venison and her own spices and dried fruit. It was fantastic. One thanksgiving my other grandma (dad’s mom) asked me what kind of pie I wanted. I said mincemeat and so she bought a jar of “mincemeat pie filling” and dumped it in a pie crust. It was awful. Then she got mad when I wouldn’t eat it. She made my parents take the rest of the pie home, I think it ultimately ended up in the compost heap.

[@allmylovetolongago7605]

@@kaersten3623 no, I meant my maternal grandmother vs my paternal grandmother.

[@jennymcdonald7684]

My mom made the same....I loved it. When you say mincemeat now all they think of is the jar kind 🤢

[@SchoeneTante]

My mother's cousin occasionally brought mincemeat pies to Thanksgiving dinner when I was a child. I don't recall if it was the old-fashioned kind that actually had meat in it or not.

[@deniselewis770]

Here is the place to go when you get tired of the fast-paced life, these videos are the best!! ❣

[@cynthiapena1141]

I have never had mincemeat pie, but wouldn't mind trying it. It definitely looked good. Thanks Justine.

[@grammyspa-jammies1737]

It's one of my favorites. Yummy!

[@xaphan8581]

This has got to be one of the most creative cooking channels I’ve ever seen

[@mommyseastar5776]

We weren’t allowed to watch television during the week when I was growing up and watching my chickens was how I amused myself. 😂 This channel is ultra real.

[@hannahsiktberg2173]

Your videos convince me I can learn to cook in a fireplace. Love this

[@kaersten3623]

Oh my goodness, I was just reminiscing with my mother about the mincemeat pies she used to make. She learned it from her grandmother who was born in 1892. My great-grandmother's recipe came from her great-grandmother born in Delaware in 1815. She was a Quaker. By the time the recipe reached my mom, she stopped putting beef in it but she put in little pats of lard. I remember going to school when I was little and the teacher asked us what our favorite pie was, I said mincemeat and everyone pretended to gag and die.

[@debcard6225]

You & Mish Mish look so relaxed outside while baking the pie! 💕

[@TheBriarPatch]

I enjoy these videos very much. I have my great grandmother's kitchen tools (before appliances) and still use them. Watching your show makes me think of her recipes.

[@irenesoutar1254]

I loved the sound of the chickens walking on the dry leaves. Another great video thank you .

[@EarlyAmerican]

You're right that is a pleasant sound. They rake through the leaves looking for a bite to eat.

[@mayday802]

My Grandmother and Mother made mincemeat pie and mincemeat cookies. They used venison instead of beef. The recipe you followed appears a rough version of what later became more flavorful packed with more fruits (mostly dried and I recall golden raisins,) spices, molasses, and less meat. Interesting to see how old recipes were tweeked by using different influences and additions to change ingredients and make a better tasting treat.

[@arvillawolfe6770]

My mom still makes mincemeat, but we use pork tenderloin, apples, raisins, and currants and grape juice is used also. The biggest difference I see, is that we also use a hand grinder (I think it was my great-grandmother's) to grind everything together several times. By doing the grinding, you can't tell the there's any meat. It's very time consuming, so we only get it for Thanksgiving and Christmas. It's my favorite holiday pie!! :) When we first discussed pies, my husband thought it sounded awful and initially didn't want to try it. So, when he saw it and asked what it was, I just told him it was a yummy pie and to give it a taste. I didn't tell him until after he asked for seconds that it was minced meat pie. Now, he asks my mom to make a separate one to bring home!!

[@MarkWYoung-ky4uc]

Looks good Justine. The chickens are beautiful and I love Alfred's commentary.

[@anniekinsmishkamouse7575]

My Nana's mincemeat was made with deer neck, apples, suet, currants, raisins and spices. One time my Mom made a miscalculation and we ended up needing another bushel of apples. No fancy peeling machine, just four sets of hands and an old grinder. We made so much and canned it. It truly was amazing.

[@terryrice6282]

Traditional mincemeat has wild game meat in it. I was told by my great grandmother. Fruit was added to sweeten the pie. It was a holiday favorite when it was carefully spiced.

[@robingoff677]

I don’t know how my step dad’s mom made her mincemeat pies…..but hers looked totally different than yours. I think she would make 7 or 8:of them to get through the holidays. There was never any left. And nope, I never tried them. But she made an amazing whiskey cake with black walnuts that I could never get enough of…..lol. She was born in 1912. She would have them for Thanksgiving through Christmas.

[@mitchellkruszyna109]

My favorite pie!! Thanks for making this! You guys are awesome!!!

[@EarlyAmerican]

Our pleasure!

[@marciacapell1541]

My favorite aunt taught me when I was young how to make the best real mincemeat pie! Ive been doing it ever since then! Lots of lean beef and tons of brown sugar. Lots of butter, gobs of diced fruits and raisins and spices and stuffed into a delicious buttery crusted pie!

[@amberwaters9529]

I love how you're so gentle with your chickens

[@frick566]

My Grandfather absolutely loved mock mincemeat pies..my mom would make him 2 every Thanksgiving and Christmas!

[@Isybisy88]

A very traditional German recipe is beef roast with raisins. The beef is pickled in vinegar and spices for days and then very slowly cooked. Most soft and tender meat ever! The raisins are added to the gravy. Often its served with red cabbage, where you can add apples in. Tastes delicious.

[@tedstrikertwa800]

Bless. This reminded me of my dear old Nan's meat pies she used to bake. Except without the apples and raisins. Must be one of those _use what ever you have in the cupboard_ recipes. You have some real nice chickens. They're really relaxing to watch and listen to, especially when they are content, like yours. They can be highly amusing too 🤣

[@AllenMZim]

I'm sorry that you didn't care for this pie, Justine! Frankly, with all of the ingredients here, I thought for sure it would have been a winner! But that's just how it goes sometimes, I guess... Regardless, this was a wonderful video and I'd actually still like to try my hand at cooking this! Thanks to you and Ron both! Cheers!

[@michellejohnson9202]

Watching those sweetie chickens eat is so much better than television!

[@johndayan7126]

The modern American palate just isn't used to meat+sweet together (except for sweet barbaque sauces, etc.) so this is just going to seem weird. But probably totally delicious if you are used to it. We grew up eating sauerkraut, and love it, but I'm sure that is horrifying to people who didn't grow up eating it. And I love the "Chicken Cam"! Another great episode. Peace be with you friends.

[@avashnea]

It's not 'meat and sweet' that's the problem. It's beef and sweet. Pork would probably go MUCH better with the apples, raisins and the spices.

[@Msfelixthecatz]

That looks amazing! I want to make it for the holidays. Thank you!!

[@WaiferThyme]

Lmao i kept thinking about Rachels Thanksgiving beef triffle from Friends! 😂😂

[@margui6224]

The mincemeat pie looks great. It was very interesting what Alfred was telling about this meal how people from that time celebrate Thanksgiving eating it. So different than the turkey. Thank you, Justine, for the recipe.

[@twincrier6971]

It was good to hear from Alfred Fig again. He has such a soothing voice. 🥕

[@annieburton4859]

I love your videos they are so cozy and calming

[@jimgrant4348]

Like many others, we had minced meat pie for the holidays. Ours always included beef, venison, suet, apples, raisins, cranberries, and a touch of brandy and rum. I don't remember all the spices, etc. but it was a real treat.

[@robdixon7732]

Sorry I have to miss this week. Looks delicious!

[@C-TOS]

Mr. Rabbit spitting straight facts as always.

[@harrykuheim6107]

What a cool Cabin...Perfect for some Hard Cider, Minced Meat Pie, and a Fiddle tune by the fire...

[@chrismcelligott5462]

Love seeing the chickens! This receipt is interesting. Can't wait to see if you and Ron like it.

[@shellyirby9828]

This looks delicious Justine!! And the chickens are so pretty! What a serene home setting!

[@lauraMacKinnon321]

Mmmm, i want to taste that pie! Your house is so cozy, i keep saying.😊 And the ASMR sounds of the fire is great! Mish mish is so sweet.❤

[@noirhorror197]

Just started watching the video. Actually those ingredients sound wonderful. Can't wait to watch you pull it all together. I wish I had an open fire place and all those really cool cast iron items you have. You're terrific!! You got me on the hard cider, numeg and sugar!!

[@elgroucho7563]

I really enjoy the content y’all put out! Thank you

[@writerinrwanda]

In the UK at Christmas, we serve 'mince pies' which aren't actually made from minced meat, but from mixed dried fruit. Eaten by themselves or with cream or ice-cream. Way back in ye olde times, they were actually made from minced meat and fruit - very much what you've made here. We didn't like it either, so changed the recipe 😄

[@Grincheypoo]

I had the chance to try the traditional mince meat and loved it.💜

[@user-jb6yd2eo5e]

I made mincemeat last week . Beef,apples ,oranges ,lemon , raisins ,molasses and all the spices . I grind the first four ingredients together . It cooks all day . Made enough for 6 pies.

[@CarlainMontana406]

Greetings from Montana 👋😊 Amen for doing things the American Way! 🇺🇸❤🇺🇸❤🇺🇸 The ingredients kind of reminded me of that episode of Friends with the trifle 🤣 sorry this didn’t turn out so well…..that’s a lot of work and time to not enjoy it!! Maybe next week….hope the homestead build is going well for you two! God Bless! 😊🇺🇸❤🇺🇸

[@missypyxi]

This recipe reminds me of that time Rachel didn't realize the recipe book pages were stuck together so she added peas and mashed potatoes and ground beef to her dessert trifle in Friends! 🤣

[@martyhanks5977]

love it all! You even had your "Happy Dance" music at the end. Thanks for the backstory on minced pies & history! #NerdyFood

[@sallycormier1383]

Nice crust! My mom was always a fan of minced meat pie.

[@TreasureRescue]

I love mincemeat pie without the meat. Crosse and Blackwell make a jarred filling with brandy, just pour in a shell and bake. I would love to try and make my own though.

[@scheralgreider5406]

I remember my grandmother's minced meat pies! I absolutely loved them! She was born in 1892. Instead of hard cider, she used brandy.

[@vickismith9142]

My granma made that it was good but lots of raisins I love watchin you and Ron first time it let me chat! Good work Justine!❤😊

[@rebeccaback3287]

I have never tried mince meat pie.It looks yummy! Appreciate the history lesson on it.David Back.

[@RestingBitchface7]

I LOVE real mincemeat. It’s not the same without beef. I fill my pies twice as full. ❤❤❤

[@countrygirl7402]

My grandmothers mincemeat pies had more spices I think, and the apples were chopped much smaller. But she used mincemeat she has prepared ahead of time and canned. It was delicious. I remember my sister in law tasting it the first time. She didnt know what it was and thought it some kind of spice pie. When we told her mincemeat was actually meat, she didnt like it anymore. 😂

[@dandarth-kc9cf]

You have the best cable tv ever. I used to watch chicken eating all the time when I used to spend time at my grandp. farm. Sometimes a quiet dinner can be disturbed and have some karate action between chickens.

[@adamyouker6449]

My great grandmother, of English ancestry in Northwestern Michigan, made her mincemeat with venison versus beef.

[@JanTrewhitt]

oh yes, my grandma and Mother used to make minced meat pies at Thanksgiving. I never liked the taste of them, but it was a tradition for the family!

[@leahmollytheblindcatnordee3586]

I have never had mincemeat pie, but my mother would sometimes say she wished she had some. But I'm glad she never made us eat it. I don't think I would care for it. She was born in 1922 and lived on a farm. Thanks for the memories.

[@cleocatra9324]

It’s good without the meat just apple raisins and spices

[@erinl3066]

I love your videos they make me very relaxed ,inspired and usually hungry 🤣 thank you 💐

[@marciawright2600]

Our mincemeat pies have sugar and flour in them to make them stick together. I love mincemeat pie!

[@dawnberthold3894]

I would definitely try this pie. it looks really good. My 4 year old granddaughter loves your channel, too. I'm looking forward to Friday.

[@mamkhr]

We had mincemeat pie every Christmas. Mum would make it a month before so it could sit in the brandy. Even as a kid, I enjoyed. Good memories. Thank you, Justine.

[@Nagamah25]

Wow I love the pie yammy keep doing nice guys ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤👍🙏🥰😍

[@Scrabbledat]

I watch your videos before bed to calm my mind for a better sleep. Thank you😊

[@MsBusybee58]

Mincemeat pie is very popular here in Atlantic Canada!

[@WaiferThyme]

Halifax shout out! I love mince meat pie especially at Christmas! Only.. without the meat lmao.,

[@EarlyAmerican]

@@WaiferThyme same here Waifer I love mincemeat pie...without the meat.

[@MsBusybee58]

I have a delicious mincemeat pie with tomatoes instead of meat.

[@WaiferThyme]

@@MsBusybee58 mock mincemeat! From Olde Nova Scotian Kitchens?

[@MsBusybee58]

@WaiferThyme haha, not sure where the recipe came from but it's Nova Scotian!

[@Rebeka1589]

🤍🕊️💐great beautiful new adventures in this new year for you guys. A new chapter 🌱

[@Cerulean0987]

My great aunt used to make me individual mincemeat pies for Thanksgiving made from deer meat from the fall hunt. she knew I liked them that much.

[@RustyGlovebox]

That looks so good 😋👍

[@cathylemay2215]

I've had both types of mincemeat pie. Not a huge fan of either but prefered the meaty version. The fruit based one is tasty when frozen.

[@mrs.g.9816]

My mom always baked up both pumpkin pie and mincemeat pie for every Thanksgiving and Christmas. I started including pecan pie for Christmas desserts after I lived in Texas for a while. My sister and I always made the filling for mincemeat pie a few months before Christmas baking. No, we never used meat. But we'd have to ask the butcher at the local market to sell us some suet. We'd include brandy with the suet, apples, currants, raisins, brown sugar, orange peel and spices (gotta include ground cloves!), and we'd store our mincemeat in a crock. It really tastes better after it ages and the flavors blend. I don't think I'd want to try the receipt you're using for this video, though! BTW - I love those nosy chickens!

[@abbyechevarria5322]

Thank you for sharing your video. Very nice. I don’t care for mince pie, but it was nice to watch.👍😊

[@sygnusadun4832]

Honestly if the beef isn't your cup of tea, I recommend subbing for pork loin, using a good sweet apple, and adding in a bit of red cabbage or some straight up saurkraut. Also don't be afraid to play around with your dried fruit in the mince. Find something that works more to your palate. Personally I like craisins.

[@deborahminter6231]

Beautiful set up!💖💕

[@carlathemet3511]

Very interesting to have apples in a meat pie. Good Video, keep up the great work!

[@cynthiaburns5233]

I am going to try this recipe but make a couple changes for more flavor. Instead of raisins I am going to try dried cranberries. Plus, I think cubing the raw piece of beef and putting it in a hot iron cast skillet with some Amish butter and browning it and cooking it to leave it medium rare would give it more flavor especially since it's going to be bake in a pie shell. I also think I would use a flakey buttery pie shell recipe like I use for chicken pies. Loved the video. You have inspired me. Thanks so much. You do a great job on these videos. :)

[@SueFine]

Ah, REAL mincemeat! Not that sickeningly sweet stuff that makes haters out of everyone. Yum!

[@jemmajames6719]

This was made in England in Tudor times, they often mixed sweet and savoury together, mince meat pies ie mince pies we have at Christmas in Britain obviously used to have meat in them but for centuries have just had mixed dried fruit, suet, citrus peel, spices and often alcohol in. Seen as this pie was brought over from Britain then made in the US I wonder why mince pies aren’t eaten at Christmas in the US?

[@jancatperson8329]

A friend of mine still makes mincemeat pie with beef, the way her family has for generations. I grew up with mincemeat pie as a Thanksgiving and Christmas staple, but it was all fruit, no meat. I think the only way I could approach eating mincemeat made with beef is if I think of it as a meat pie, not a dessert pie.

[@truelj8560]

You make even the oddest recipes look great!!!

[@pattimickelson9861]

Never tried mince meat pie.. However all of the ingredients you put in that pie looked pretty good

[@daughteroftheblackmadonna8936]

We always had a mincemeat pie on our Thanksgiving table. Pumpkin, Apple, and Mincemeat. My mother always made it with a lattice crust.

[@rosemariemello6675]

Seems Mish Mish is getting along with the chickens, he's living his best life ❤

[@MarkMeadows90]

This channel and Townsends channel are the best I have ever seen. I don't think I have ever eaten a mincemeat pie before. I don't know if I would ever eat one lol

[@pamp5797]

Hello Dear. Watching this again. Yours is my favorite channel. I love real mince meat. Chickens are amusing.

[@hollyf.7846]

We're gonna need more chicken cam footage. 😂 Love your nosey little flock!

[@terryt.1643]

I was never a fan of mincemeat growing up. I think ours used to have meat in them. There were always pumpkin and mincemeat pies for Thanksgiving. Loved pumpkin 🎃👍

[@LisaG442]

I made mincemeat once with beef, it wasn’t horrible but I can see why it fell out of favour for just the fruit. Suet is completely tasteless and I always use that in my mincemeat, it keeps for ages with suet. I really love this channel!

[@annedavis6090]

a week ago my brother brought up our great aunt's mincemeat pies..same type recipe..very traditional ..i wasnt a big fan, but he loved them.🥧

[@midwestern925]

I love old fashioned and modern mincemeat pie!! 😋🤤

[@marnieanderson720]

I love mince meat pie. It's an acquired taste. I would have chopped up my own apples up smaller but everyone is allowed to do as they please! Great video!