Making A Stop-Motion Puppet: Dagon Fish Frog Monster

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[@juanluisfernandezlombo1561]

Impressive! Dagon is one of my favorite lovecraftian characters: As a coastal dweller, I fancy Him more. Your puppet is not only made of silicone, but of knowledge, patience, effort and love for what you’re doing, and those are the finest materials to work with. Congratulations.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks! I think Dagon is the ultimate Lovecraft story. So much of what he (and others) wrote later comes out of this single story. I actually didn't use any silicone for this puppet; I rarely do. It's all good old liquid latex :)

[@marcozanellifossiliepaleon3991]

Dear Friend this is real art, it is a great pleasure to see you in action. Thanks for sharing A cordial greeting Marco

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Many thanks for all your support! :)

[@mr.midnightwhite5890]

I have such an appreciation for Stop Motion, I love seeing behind the scenes stuff like this.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks! Stop-motion animations, even bad ones, have a weird sort of magic.

[@WoM]

These videos are excellent. All the puppet work is just awesome to see, but your actual initial concept sculpting and creativity behind it is impressive.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks! :) The creative process is the most rewarding bit.

[@stefanosmarkopoulos]

@@TheLoneAnimator it's me again ,and I would like to ask if gedeo latex can be used aswell for the skin and how could I paint it?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

@@stefanosmarkopoulos Gedeo latex is more creamy than the milky latex I prefer to use, but apart from that, it has the same qualities when it has dried. To get a paint for your puppet that won't crack, add tinting medium to a small batch of latex, and then use a sponge to lightly sponge on the tinted latex onto the puppet. What I usually do is I sponge on the tinted latex, then use a second foam sponge to go over the painted surface by dabbing it, thus absorbing excess latex, so you won't cover too much of the details on your puppet. You can work over your puppet this way by lightly drybrushing on several thin layers of color to achieve all sorts of effects. I start with a dark base color and then softly drybrush on lighter hues, thus revealing the highlights on the puppet in a very attractive way. Look up KZbin videos on drybrushing techniques for painting models and such. Over that, you can add details using acrylic colors. I prefer acrylic airbrush colors, which I sometimes apply with an ordinary brush.

[@louiegarcia7992]

@@TheLoneAnimator 2:09 what kind of clay do you use for the clay walls? I love to know if it’s monster clay soft or not

[@Voldemorten83]

The amount of work that goes in to this is amazing! Kudos to your skill, your art and your patience and thanks for sharing!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@Ozzy3000]

Thats one hell of a hobby. I recently got into stop-motion cause I thought it would be an easy way to express my creativity. Then I remembered "Court of the Yellow King". Well, I had no idea! Your videos inspired me very much since that fateful day when I first tried to tie an origami head with some yarn to my clay figure....

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Great! It's good to know that what I do can inspire. I wish you many wonderful years exploring the craft of stop-motion :)

[@voronOsphere]

Thanks, Richard! I love that creature! I love your behind the scenes stuff!!!!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Glad you enjoyed it! I'll try to do more stuff like this.

[@rampage75_25]

When i saw dagon in the opening pose i laughed so hard, i almost awakened Azatoth. Great, simply great.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

He'll have to strike his monster poses :)

[@davidcauley9400]

So good. from one sculptor another, I really love your work.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thank you very much!

[@gearmachine_4885]

It’s so cool to see how much love and time you put into making these! Have you thought about selling the clay statues instead of destroying them?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks :) Well, I can't really save the clay sculpture if I'm going to use it for making a mold. I'd have to make separate sculptures in another type of clay and sell that. I'm not really interested in doing that.

[@noahdunham4494]

I have just found you on the internet and im already a huge fan of all your work on your channel.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Awesome, thank you! :)

[@DarkWarrior076]

*Protagonist walks through an endless desert of the bottom of the ocean until he reached an oasis with a pillar with writings on the dawn of man and elder gods. Until Dagon appears around the pillar and roars at the protagonist just only when he took out a top hat and puts on and carries a cane singing* “HELLO MY BABY, HELLO MY HONEY!”

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I can't tell you how many people have poked me about doing a "Hello my baby" version of the film!

[@paysonterhune290]

Gorgeous as always but the world really needs your version of Empire of the Necromancers....

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I am still thinking about Empire of the Necromancers.

[@themodernairline]

Thanks so much for posting this! It's super-helpful, and your work is terrific!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks! I'm very glad to hear that :)

[@yaboiweirdpervertninja]

SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WORK!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thank you! :)

[@AngryPepper1964]

Absolutely unreal, your talent is just freaking amazing. I can’t thank you enough for sharing your secrets of making these amazing creatures. Are you sure you’re not the reincarnation of Ray Harryhausen?💀🤩🦑🦇🌚

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thank you; I'm glad you enjoy my work:) Harryhausen is the Jedi master to my eternal padawan. I'm still learning by doing.

[@AngryPepper1964]

@@TheLoneAnimator Ive been following you for a while and you sir are an expert if there ever is one. I wish i had 1/4 of your ideas and talent. Please don’t stop and keep those monsters alive and hungry 🦖

[@TheLoneAnimator]

@@AngryPepper1964 Thanks; I really appreciate that :) Fortunately, I believe this will be a pretty monster-filled year for this little channel.

[@AngryPepper1964]

@@TheLoneAnimator That sounds fantastic I cannot wait good luck with everything and stay healthy your friend Michael

[@chancegivens9390]

That creature is so incredible! I outta try to make my own Dagon beasts in my crafting style! Maybe two different kinds..

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Go right ahead and do your thing! :)

[@chancegivens9390]

@@TheLoneAnimator Hell yeah! Though I must say your crafting style is a bit more impressive than mine!

[@harveyweaver9372]

Man your channel is a godsend! Fantastic work

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thank you! I'm glad you found this useful :)

[@АлександрПряхин-ю2ц]

This is incredibly fantastic!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thank you :)

[@PFC_Vasquez]

This is incredible

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thank you :)

[@thedirepuppy6571]

Informative and enjoyable as always! Do you keep parts boxes with items you come across that you think may work for your projects? If so, I'd sure love if we could have a peek, and hear your ideas!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Yes, I have plastic boxes with lots of compartments, usually used for keeping spare nuts and bolts, but I fill them with everything from leftover latex teeth and claws, to glue bottle caps. I'm quite the magpie in that way. And usually find a good use for that stuff.

[@soulreaver1983]

Awesome Dagon sculpt dude! 10/10!🙂

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks a bunch! It's my version of the Dagon monster, and I hope I managed to tick a lot of boxes :)

[@soulreaver1983]

@@TheLoneAnimator You sure did! It was absolutely amazing! ☺👍

[@horrormike]

Great sculpting and finished model.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks! :)

[@philipscott3241]

This makes me want to read “Shadow Over Innsmouth” again!😃

[@TheLoneAnimator]

It's always a perfect time to read "the Shadow Over Innsmouth" :)

[@Martial-Mat]

I LOVE the dagon mythos creatures. Another great puppet by you. Love your scale textures! Have you ever tried cthulu or the giant worm in at the mountains of madness? Have you ever ever made a puppet then been so unhappy with it that you didn't use it?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks! I did a simple version of Cthulhu for my Lovecraft alphabet, but I'd live to give the great dude another go, eventually. I used to be quite unhappy with my early puppets. Nowadays I have enough control of my puppet-making techniques I can get to where I want with my puppet characters.

[@thevoiceofjackmuth]

I would be amaze of what your version of Godzilla would look like.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I will eventually do a Kaiju tribute :)

[@Yokomation]

I can stop saying this but, Doing 3D models for CGI is kinda like doing stop motion puppet, Like doing the clay molds is akin to the process known as Retopology, only real difference been the fact in CGI, the details are added in afterwards but, that’s mostly how I do things in Blender 3D, awesome job as always dude, your a great inspiration to us all as film makers and animators alike.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I have no experience at all with 3D rendering, and I might never go there, but I can imagine the similarities.

[@Yokomation]

@@TheLoneAnimator Yeah it is,

[@Denizen-Unknown]

I've been using Monsterclay medium since my sister got me some for christmas! I have to say, it's definitely my favorite. I don't think I can go back to Chavant.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Yup! Chavant is very good, but I prefer Monster Maker's medium grade clay now.

[@lunavaladez1146]

This puppet is so sick and inspirational!! Where do you get your dental plaster?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I buy it from a dental supply shop online here in Sweden. They sell everything from toothpaste to dental plaster and silicone paste (which I also use.) The plaster is called Vel Mix Stone. It's pretty expensive, though. The best cheap choice I've found is something called Krone-Gips. It's supposed to be standard hobby plaster, but it's actually quite sturdy and doesn't cling to either your clay original or the latex you put into your mold.

[@gameofgianpa]

Fantastic Monster! Thanks

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thank you too! :)

[@Paul_305]

Great! Would like to see you take a crack at wilbur whateley and his brother - the dunwich horror

[@neo-filthyfrank1347]

He already did Wilbur in his alphabet video

[@TheLoneAnimator]

The Dunwich Horror is my Lovecraftian dream project, but I want to do it with actors and make-up (except for the horror itself, of course). Getting all the people I need is a slow process, but, hopefully, I'll get there in the end.

[@Paul_305]

@@TheLoneAnimator i recently watched Night of the Demon. You could do that justice.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

@@Paul_305 I really like Night of the Demon, AND the story it's based on, "Casting the Runes." I'd love to do more M R James material.

[@troin3925]

This reminds me of how actual stop motion animation was used for Cthulhu in the 2005 silent film styled adaptation of The Call of Cthulhu by the HP Lovecraft Historical Society.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I'm glad they went with stop-motion :)

[@jonathan.ruagil]

Greetings from Colombia, your work os awesome

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@markkevin7245]

Hello! Love your style and puppets.... huge ran... I must admit your tutorials and your talks on stop motion passion are my favourites... do you ever do giveaways ... I’d love to have one of your models in my collection... keep up the good work....

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks :) I don't do giveaways, but I have held contests on my Patreon page, where I send people latex castings of my puppet sculptures as prizes.

[@markkevin7245]

@@TheLoneAnimator I’d love to be a patreon... but haven’t got 2 pennies to rub together ... any competitions for the general watchers coming up? I’d like to enter thanks

[@markkevin7245]

@@TheLoneAnimator could you do a competition for all watchers ? If so how would I enter ? If you ever in uk I’ll buy u a drink

[@TheLoneAnimator]

@@markkevin7245 That's a good idea. I'll see what I can do with it. I don't drink, but thanks for the offer :)

[@markkevin7245]

@@TheLoneAnimator I’m sure a nice cuppa tea! Would go down fine .... drawing a new character competition would be cool but even model making

[@DirektorSplennic]

Really incredible stuff. Ordered some mask making latex to try out on some molds I made. How long does it usually take for that kind of latex to dry?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks :) It depends how thickly you apply the latex. If you apply it thinly and let it dry, then apply next layer, then it'll dry pretty fast in a plaster mold. From 10 minutes to half an hour, or so. I usually apply three layers making my puppets.

[@athanasios328]

Underrated af…

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I kind of agree, actually :)

[@williamwoodard7172]

You are amazing i like your art work

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thank you :)

[@I_got_nothing-1]

fantastic Mold and puppet I wish to have one oneday

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks! Why not give it a go and make one yourself?

[@I_got_nothing-1]

@@TheLoneAnimator I’ve never Thought of that

[@I_got_nothing-1]

But the problem is that I am 9

[@godemperor7742]

Both Lovecraft and Harryhausen would be very proud.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

That's high praise indeed! Thanks :)

[@Freakaboogie]

pretty dang cool

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks! :)

[@victornasct]

Its a great work.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Glad you enjoy it :)

[@guancho9142]

Incredible! Which type of latex can I use? Where can I find it? Any particular brand recommendations?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I'm afraid I don't have a particular brand to recommend. Latex is pretty much the same all over the world but sold under dozens of brand names. Just look for mask-making latex, which is supposed to be thinner than mold-making latex. I have used both, and if the mold-making latex is thin enough you can use it for making puppet skins. What you want is the consistency of milk, not cream. Monster Makers has a latex which comes highly recommended for making masks, but I've found it a bit too leathery for the purpose of making puppet skins. I've found good latex at hobby shops and makeup suppliers.

[@brucey5232]

Brought to you by ' Velmixstone ' Dental plaster--9 out of 10 dentists recommend it.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Well, so do I :)

[@Elbanditoart]

Thats how I made my cat, now she's alive...help me

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Cat's aren't that bad, are they?

[@Quaquadaqu]

Amazing!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks! :)

[@MarioDoodles]

So cool man

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Lovecraft is cool :)

[@86demonet]

Thanks

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks for watching :)

[@austencobine864]

Very Cool

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Glad you liked it :)

[@davidklemmer1368]

uh-oh....blast from the past....it kinda reminds me of Humanoids from the Deep. Keep in mind that I have seen very, very few scaray/horror/fantasy movies in my life, but I saw that when I was 11 or 12 and I remembered the, um, good jiggly scenes. I'm ready for the haters to correct me, but isn't there *some* similarity???

[@TheLoneAnimator]

There are a lot of similarities. I actually think Humanoids From the Deep is the best movie doing the concepts from The Shadow Over Innsmouth.

[@garrettturriff2541]

very cool

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thank you :)

[@crispico4727]

Does the mold-making or casting ever fail? Is the whole sculpt lost then?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

In my early efforts I sometimes screwed up the mixing of the plaster and such things. The mold fell apart and at least parts of the sculpture was lost.

[@MekaGoji74]

I have a question about the head and torso sculpture creation, as I am attempting this process myself. How much of the back of the head and the neck should be sculpted? I've made a mold of a critter with a longer neck than the dagon fish monster here, and it's difficult to apply latex into the head due to the neck cavity of the mold being so small.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

If I'm sculpting something with its ears where a human has ears, I'd end the sculpture just behind the ears, and then draw a line down over the shoulders and the torso from that point on the head. When I have made puppets with longer necks, I've actually sculpted and cast the head separately, and built up the neck using bits of foam padding (sometimes very thin foam soaked in latex) and castings from skin texture molds.

[@hamletstragedy8988]

Thanks @bluworm!!! 🖖🏻

[@TheLoneAnimator]

You're welcome; my pleasure :)

[@gabbimcguire9268]

Do you mix water with latex?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

No, I use it as it is, except when mixing it with a tinting medium to add color to it.

[@J.L.LewisAnimation]

excellent

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Many thanks :)

[@flerpbird1955]

Hi bluworm! Can I use plaster of Paris over dental plaster. Also where do I find the latex stuff?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I don't really know how different plasters react to each other, but I'd recommend that you don't mix them. Use only all plaster of Paris OR dental plaster. I buy my latex from a make-up guy in Sweden, but you can find it all over the internet and in many hobby shops. I don't have a particular brand I recommend. Just look for mask-making latex, and you'll most likely get something that's equal to any other such product. They're mostly the same in quality.

[@lycanx900]

Cool

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks! :)

[@georgemartinez1720]

Have ever tried Voatinh the Wire with Foam Clay

[@TheLoneAnimator]

No, I haven't gotten around to trying foam clay yet.

[@georgemartinez1720]

Great job what Brand of Paint and brushes you use

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I use ordinary hobby brushes, the kind used to paint plastic kit models. The paint I use is a mix of various airbrush acrylic color brands. I go for specific colors I want rather than specific brands (and how much they cost, of course.)

[@georgemartinez1720]

It interesting you using Plaster since most people this Days use Silacone

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I'm using plaster because it's easy casting liquid latex into it. Silicone won't really work for that, and it's also much more expensive than plaster.

[@dwarvenking9472]

What type of latex is that? I’m having a bit of trouble searching for liquid latex

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I'm using what's marketed as "mask-making" latex, which is generally a bit thinner than mold-making latex. But in the end it's all latex, basically.

[@DS-vf6uy]

Wow!!!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Best reaction I could hope for :)

[@adanbanuelos8974]

What specific latex brand you use ?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Pretty much whatever I can find at a decent price. I tend to use what's branded "mask-making" latex, though the difference between that and "mold-making" latex is sometimes negligible.

[@georgemartinez1720]

Do you make your own sculpting tools

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Yes, I have made a few loop tools using ordinary steel wires and the handles of discarded brushes.

[@S.O.C.isadurgun]

Hey do you have any notes I should take I really want to make a stop motion monster but I don't think ill be able to buy latex

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Latex is still the best beginner's material for making good-looking skin and body parts. You should be able to buy it online in lots of places, but only buy a small container to get you started.

[@margauxmurphy6588]

Hey, do you think you can give me some tips on stop motion and what I should use to edit? I'm trying to make a film called "Evolution of the World" and I just wanted you help on what I should use to make models and draw, Thank you.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Well, I can tell you what I'm using. I animate with DragonFrame (which is expensive) and a Nikon DSLR camera but also with the Stop Motion Studio app (which is cheaper) and my iPhone. I use Premiere Elements when I edit, but there are lots of other good, easy-to-use software. You can pretty much see the puppet materials I use in this video and in some of my other how-to videos. None of those are very expensive, except for the dental plaster. Of course, you can also use clay to make your characters, which is a material you can re-use again and again. It all depends on how realistic your approach is. Also, be prepared to put in a lot of hours and work getting where you want to go with your project.

[@margauxmurphy6588]

@@TheLoneAnimator Thank you, I'll soon have a campaign on indiegogo and a youtube cannel "The Motion Picture Maniac", Thank you.

[@margauxmurphy6588]

@@TheLoneAnimator Oh, by the way, I totally got the idea from Ray Harryhausen.

[@ChrystusBrzeczyszczykiewicz]

00:01 Hello my baby Hello my honey Hello my ragtime gal

[@TheLoneAnimator]

That's the one :)

[@pip-boyrepairman689]

Genial!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks!! :)

[@markkevin7245]

Fan!!!!!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Thanks for your support :)

[@markkevin7245]

@@TheLoneAnimator hi would you ever sell or give away a model to a fan ?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

@@markkevin7245 I'm afraid I'll probably keep all my puppets.

[@cheekerpot3008]

❤

[@georgemartinez1720]

We're did you learn to sculpt

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I'm self-taught, but I've picked up suggestions from sculptors writing articles in magazines and books over the years.

[@legolasstudios]

Could you make a tutorial on how to make a simple talos figure? I really want to make one but cant afford sylicone and a proper armature

[@TheLoneAnimator]

If I were to make a Talos puppet, I'd do it pretty much like this puppet.Some sections like the head and the front of the torso would be sculpted in clay and then cast as latex pieces. Other bits like the back, the legs, and the arms I'd build up with bits of foam and cover them with patches of latex skin.

[@legolasstudios]

@@TheLoneAnimator Thanks! I'll experiment with that. I also had someone tell me that i could mix sobo glue with white crayola magic and a bit of acrilic paint and sculpt with that over a wire armature with foam, and that it would dry flexible. Do you know about this technique, because i have never heard of it and dont kow if it would work?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

@@legolasstudios I haven't tried that technique with those materials, so I can't say how well it'll work. But test it out on a small bit of foam first, and see how it feels.

[@legolasstudios]

@@TheLoneAnimator Hello! Sorry to bother again, but I found this cheap expanding foam called Polycraft 010 Soft Foam, and saw a youtuber use it, except that it was crumbly and didnt fill up the mold well. He put a couple of layers of latex in the mold first, then poured the foam in with the mold closed and left it to sit for hours, sort of working. I was wondering if you knew this material or could give me any tips as to how to fix the problems the youtuber encountered. Thanks so much for your help!

[@TheLoneAnimator]

@@legolasstudios it sounds like that KZbinr got it right the second try around. What you have to do is line the insides of your plaster mold with latex first and let that dry. two layers sound just right. Then you can pour in the expanding foam, BUT you need an escape vent somewhere in your mold, so the excess expanding foam can squeeze out. this is because of two things: If the foam can't escape, it might expand to the point where it bursts and shatters your plaster mold. Also, if the foam is allowed to expand to the maximum, it'll become softer than if crammed full in a closed-off mold. It might be a good idea the try different amounts of the Polycraft before you mix it, then mix it and see how much it expands before trying it out in a plaster mold. Then you'll have a better idea about how much you'll need to mix to fill out your mold. If you decide to try this, get a strap to hold together the parts of the plaster mold (assuming you at least have two parts). If you don't, the expanding foam will press apart the mold parts very quickly, and your casting will be ruined.

[@dantemaritato]

Can you do a updated video on how to make armatures

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I'll give that some thought. It's a good idea.

[@YggdrasilAudio]

Have you seen Psycho Goreman?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

Not yet! :)

[@YggdrasilAudio]

@@TheLoneAnimator I looks right up your alley. 🙂

[@TheLoneAnimator]

@@YggdrasilAudio It probably is!

[@rampage75_25]

Psycho Goreman? Sounds terrible. Horror?

[@YggdrasilAudio]

@@rampage75_25 It's an R-rated horror comedy about a kid who befriends an eldritch alien demon. The effects are mostly practical and it stars Rich Evan in a small role!

[@sfgree326]

do you offer custom monster puppets service?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I do, when I have the time (right now is very busy). The cost depends on how complicated the puppet needs to be, but I start at $100 for a basic puppet with latex skin, two arms and two legs, and a functional head with swiveling eyes and a mouth that opens.

[@sfgree326]

@@TheLoneAnimator thanks for the response fam hopefully get to do business in the near future i love your work 🙏🏽

[@sfgree326]

@@TheLoneAnimatorhow do I contact you for custom puppet

[@BERNULFSVEA]

I could really need your help on a Project that i am working on.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

What do you need help with?

[@BERNULFSVEA]

@@TheLoneAnimator i am making a movie that includes a few dwarfes. I made videos useing Green screen but i did not really like some results. I am thinking now, that i should use a puppet for some scenes and do some old school stop motion.

[@BERNULFSVEA]

I think that the puppet should have the actuall dwarf size but i guess it will be harder to animate it then. Maybe 70 to 80 cm.

[@TheLoneAnimator]

@@BERNULFSVEA The bigger you make a puppet, the harder it will be to manipulate it, in my experience. When Frank Hennenlotter made "Basket Case" he used a version of the Belial character that was a life-size stop-motion puppet. He found animating it very hard, and kind of gave up at the end of the shoot.

[@BERNULFSVEA]

@@TheLoneAnimator true, but i mean 70 to 80 cm. Harryhausen also used some bigger puppets like the dragon of sindbads 7th voyage. 70 to 80 cm is stil too big?

[@saturnianrings3920]

Are you scotish?

[@TheLoneAnimator]

I'm Swedish.