Making A Vertical Milling Attachment For The Lathe

[@kellen_mcsmellin]

I imagine every time he pulls out the hacksaw he's smirking because he knows there will be 100 comments about not having a bandsaw haha

[@Argosh]

Dat Engagement though!

[@nutgone100]

I made a vice stand for my portable bandsaw, but most of the time I can’t be bothered setting it all up & just grab the hacksaw anyway 😂

[@dancooperish]

At some point there will be a bandsaw, still boxed, in the background of a shot.

[@Forge366]

We'd probably riot if he uses a bandsaw

[@CraigBabcock1]

BuT iTs A sMaLl SpAcE tHeReS nO rOoM fOr a band saw

[@crazytrev1]

Dude will make a mill attachment for his lathe before getting a band saw classic

[@jambusspeakermouse1325]

I really hope he makes a donkey saw. Would be fitting for this channel

[@justintolentino661]

Its keeping engagement high, for certain

[@thecatofnineswords]

@@justintolentino661 It's become a staple part of the channel's culture.

[@brettfontaine4681]

He basically can’t get a band saw now. I know he couldn’t before, but now he really can’t.

[@criggie]

He should make every kind of metal cutting powered saw except a bandsaw. Maybe even a waterjet.

[@MacMeaties]

Buy a bandsaw then use it as a vice stand to hold stuff while you hacksaw it.

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

He's said many times before that his shop doesn't have the floor space for a bandsaw...

[@ZantZ]

As a professional bandsaw, I know I'll never be as good as Artisan Makes with a hacksaw.

[@evyatarklevi]

Hello, I want to give you some tips, I worked as a mechanic and mechanical engineer for several years and I think you can use some of the knowledge I have gained over the years. When cutting metal with a hand saw, take care of several things: oil taut blade A blade with a larger number of teeth is suitable for harder material or for easier and cleaner cutting Cut with an angled drop in relation to the material When cutting metal with an angle grinder: A leather vest will be your friend (I've seen some young men catch fire from sparks) Cut the material all the way through with the disc or switch to a saw at the end of the cut and don't use a chisel or hammer to break the material, this creates internal stress in the metal The best way to get better at welding is to weld a lot, practice on metal as much as possible. A good welding mask will help you a lot more than you think, I recommend an automatic one. When using a drill chuck, if you put a little grease behind the lips that grip the drill bit, it will grip the drill bit more tightly. You do amazing work, I really enjoy seeing you every week, I hope you continue what you do for many more years.

[@nutgone100]

What would be lovely is to see the correct hand placement on the hacksaw. Of all the KZbinrs I watch I’ve only ever seen one that knows how to hold a hacksaw properly.

[@michaelmedeiros2089]

I'm curious how does adding grease make the drill chuck hold tighter?

[@feelthepayne88]

In my experience, linear rail bolt holes are typically a little oversized to allow for room to align the rails. So those rails are probably meant for an M5 cap head bolt.

[@LoneWolfPrecisionLLC]

This right here

[@red_eye_diy]

6:50 thank you so much for lowering the angle grinder volume!!! Would love to see more machining channels do this

[@thecatofnineswords]

So much hacksaw action in today's video, you bring great satisfaction to we viewers.

[@kikakuvr4198]

"Anti-backlash mechanism" sounds like a great name for a metal band 😆 keep being awesome!

[@TalRohan]

@@kikakuvr4198 or a weird family member ....I'd like you to meet my auntie backlash 😉

[@derbuechsenmacher]

The hacksaw is part of the artisan makes health and fitness program

[@TalRohan]

@@derbuechsenmacher yup good for biceps, triceps and grip training

[@WaddedBliss]

That anti-backlash contraption is really smart.

[@teebee75]

So cool when you know the guy is posting those hacksaw scenes so everybody can post hacksaw comments while he does most of the sawing on the bandsaw he has hidden somewhere round the corner 🙂

[@charleswelch249]

That's some great machine work with the cheapest lathe and mill possible. You are definitely a great engineer at creating some amazing tools.

[@trumanhw]

I just wish he bought a used mill & lathe (that needed some work) but wasn't pure Chinesium. Without timelapse it must take a damned eternity to do every little cut with those little TOYS. :)

[@charleswelch249]

@trumanhw sometimes you don't have the budget or the space for a real cast iron machine that weighs 2 tons and takes 3 phase power. In my remote location, I don't have access to 3 phase power. So, I either have to repower the tools or get a phase converter.

[@pmcquay1]

Just an fyi, the holes in the linear rail are for m5 screws. They are a loose fit so the rail can be adjusted.

[@artisanmakes]

Then the instructions that came with them are wrong. 😑

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

@@artisanmakes Or just a poor translation that tells you the size of the hole in a way that makes you think that is the size screw it is meant to be for. As they are correct the screws should be somewhat loose in the holes they are for clamping the rail to surface not positional registration. Though equally they could be M6 screw size and your bolts have larger than expected heads - just because there are some almost always used 'standard' bolts screws and nuts doesn't actually mean the bag you got matches that or the part was sized for the same 'standard'.

[@pmcquay1]

​@@artisanmakes huh. Weird. Maybe they expect you to use narrow head cap screws? I did my hgr20 rails with m5 fasteners, but I suppose I could have been wrong.

[@jollyrodgerfabrication]

All the rails on the machines I service use standard cap screws, I've never had to turn the heads down and there's a little room for adjustment when they're all in/loose. Nice work, I wanted to do this before I got a mill, once you have it made I'm sure you'll find more uses

[@CatNolara]

The holes might seem to be for M6, but in my experience they are meant to take m5 bolts and the rest is clearance so you can shift the rail a little bit for alignment. Also so you don't have to be as precise with the hole locations. Kinda wish you had flycut the face where the rail mounts afterwards, it will only be as straight as the surface you bolt it to. I propably wouldn't have built the entire thing like a vertical milling machine, but like a horizontal boring mill with the spindle on the side of the column, and the column then where you usually have the toolpost. That way the whole setup should turn out way more rigid.

[@melgross]

Really nice, as usual. Yeah, the hacksaw comments are getting a bit out of hand. But I have to admit every time you bring it out, I wince.

[@dancooperish]

He needs to learn This Old Tony's scissors technique for cutting stock.

[@melgross]

@ that only works on the alloys he doesn’t use.

[@jrk1666]

Bro's milling on his lathe before buying a metal bandsaw

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

Well I can also claim that, and I suspect it isn't that unusual in the hobby shop scale stuff - you can hacksaw or angle grind the stuff you'd like a bandsaw for, but you just can't do without the machine tools to actually turn that rough cut into the part. And being able to use the Lathe as a mill, or the mill spindle on your lathe to drive a gear tooth cutter while the lathe plays indexing and axis of rotation etc. And if you like me live in a nation with small expensive properties... I might manage to fit one of those hand held portable bandsaw somewhere, and make a table for it so I can pretend to have both horizontal and vertical bandsaw, but no way at all I'm going to find the space to put a more 'real' bandsaw in the workshop at all!

[@minchy83]

It’s become such a meme, that if he did actually buy a bandsaw it would get weird. He basically can’t buy one, now that the comments section is so invested in it. Poor dude is destined to spend the rest of his life trying to make his way through a 4 inch round of 4140 with a loose, blunt hacksaw blade and some determination 😋.

[@PeregrineBF]

@@minchy83 He could also just start with hacksawing (on film), bandsaw most of the way off-camera, then hacksaw the end. For the memes.

[@ConstantinGrudda]

I also often quickly throw together a vertical milling attachment for my lathe. Who wouldn't

[@dekutree64]

Very nice! I made a mini-spindle for my lathe to regrind the chuck jaws, drill holes, mill keyways, etc. but it doesn't have an extra linear axis to go with it. I'd like to cut some teeth into the perimeter of the chuck backplate and add a disengageable worm gear so I can use the spindle like a rotary table for milling work.

[@criggie]

I'm in New Zealand and have an early Sherline lathe, which was made in Australia by Ronald Sher.

[@dazaspc]

The Sherlines were made in SA the whole thing was originally put together by Harold Clisby. I have a Sher Planer/saw from the 50's and it's built like a swiss watch.

[@dazaspc]

The Sherline was licenced/bought out from an Australian. The man behind Clisby Compressors Harold Clisby. He had loads of engineering achievements Making carburettors, cylinder heads for F1 he even used to have a Toyota 2000 like the one in the James Bond film.

[@hersch_tool]

Super cool project, and great work as always!

[@UncleKennysPlace]

I use my Sherline milling machine spindle/motor for thread milling on my lathe! It appears to be nearly the same as the Sherline lathe head. I use a Sherline extension block (nearly identical to what you made) to mount it, and can adjust the helix angle as needed. Have to shim the height slightly in use.

[@davidbillington9654]

Nice! I know someone that did that as well but the milling head was a Bridgeport M head and it replaced the compound on his lathe which was 20"+. He was milling a helical groove in thick wall tube for a hydraulic oil cooler.

[@NathanNostaw]

Thats going to be a very handy attachment. It may be worth making a support bracket off the back lathe bed rail so you can use the carrier as a mill bed. I suspect that galv threaded rod and coupler nut will be a bit of a hassle down the track as the soft galv wears down more, giving even more slop. The adjustment method you have will suffice for now, but it may be worth adding some nylon plugs once the galv surface has been smoothed down a tad. I'd drill for an array of nylon grub screws, or nylon plugs with grub screws.

[@thedodger7030]

Good points. I'd also be concerned that the machined allthread may struggle with maintaining its integrity vertically, since the axial bearing surface is quite small and not really bearing material. You can take out all the backlash and provide a lock on the nut but, if the rod moves, you're still cactus. Still great work though.

[@trumanhw]

@@thedodger7030 both you and Nathan make good points. would a hardened lead screw have helped w that ..?

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome work, dude! Nicely done! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@joshclark44]

So you're basically making a 4th axis? Neat!

[@daveharriman2756]

This is a great project to do for the lathe, your design utilizing the linear rail is great, it should give much better rigidity than a conventional Vee and Flat and gibs. Looking forward to seeing how it performs and what you intend to do to the mill spindle, good work, keep it up!

[@Schraubfreak]

Nice work at all. Thanks for sharing.

[@thomasl945]

This project reminds me a bit of a company i used to work for a vew years. The rather would take 10 cutoffs an weld them together (like your spindle nut) than just make 1 milled part.😂 Still, grate work for the purpose! (Although it hur my eyes to see you just bolt the rail on a welded plate)

[@trumanhw]

and why didn't he just machine it afterwards, to make sure it was straight & squared after welding!?? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@dellmerlin6328]

Next can you make a horizontal lathe attachment for the mill? I need to make a pulley for my broken lathe.

[@Argosh]

You should get a coathanger thay looks like a bandsaw or a big poster of one so you can hacksaw with it in frame.

[@jpwhre]

Good man, ya you least make a power hacksaw? It really hurts to watch you do that. I've cut thousands of miles of blade in the field of construction. I can't bare to watch you struggle anymore. Please.

[@akaHarvesteR]

Hell yes! This is something I've been thinking of doing to my own lathe (i don't have the space for a separate milling machine). I even went looking for a kit for my wm210, but that doesn't seem to be a thing. Very much looking forward to this one! 😀

[@brettfontaine4681]

Surprise appearance of the hack saw!

[@trumanhw]

it's cameos never stop. 🤣

[@drucker03]

Very impressive!

[@jasonpye927]

Please, someone get him a Sawzall at least for minimum effort. Love the content as always

[@seabreezecoffeeroasters7994]

He would only strip it down and make a scraper out of it 🤣

[@TheCreat]

7:08 typically the rails are not meant to take M6 screws if the hole is M6-ish sized, but more like M5, possible even M4. The ones I usually use come with counterbores for M3 (but with some wiggle room), and the holes are even larger. To my understanding this is meant for having the option to align 2 parallel rails to each other where needed, or to align it to some other external reference edge/surface. If yours are officially meant for M6 though, I got no clue and they just screwed up I guess?

[@KSMechanicalEngineering]

Good ideas

[@chrismayer8990]

Nice work!

[@vandalsgarage]

At 5:00 are you saying "base" or "vise"? I don't understand mounting the spindle to the crossslide. Where is the workpiece held? Where does the x/y travel come from? I must have missed something,. or I'm just not very clever.

[@Spiker985Studios]

He says Base. If I had to guess the spindle is going to be mounted perpendicular to the standard lathe work holding fixture - which is how the material will be held. No different from a standard lathe operation But, seeing as how I haven't finished the video yet - I guess I'll see!

[@KBLIZZ333]

Ironic every time I watch an Artisan Makes video I remember I need to buy a good hacksaw. I have the other thing which shall not be named. But need a quality hacksaw for that oddball task here and there.

[@trumanhw]

one of the more tasteful ________ comments. ;-)

[@hadinossanosam4459]

10:20 No, actually that stud should be really loose (as it is on all of Sherline's original equipment). All the alignment should be done by the key, so you don't want any precision fits otherwise that could mess with that alignment. The locking stud is only providing the pulling force to clamp the spindle down - which is why you probably shouldn't freehand the top angled face on the stud, either.

[@DiipsRatsAirsoftPortugal]

ive seen a lot of milling attachments fixed into the lathe body under the ways, never seen one atached to the carriage... interested to see the purpose of it! keep the good work!

[@ogi415]

It's 2054 Bro makes a 9 axis 4D milling machine Still doesnt have a bandsaw

[@thecatofnineswords]

You added a lathe to your lathe ^_^

[@Cjarka_]

There are actually 2 different standards for cap head screws. One is the more commonly used one that you can get everywhere which has the knurling on the head. The other one has a smooth head and also it's a little bit smaller OD. I am not sure why the knurled version exists but usually bigger bolts and most stainless bolts all have smooth ODs They are technically cheaper to manufacture

[@MotoRestoFL]

I see you haven’t yet been seduced by the Anchor Lube sponsorship conspiracy. Well done.

[@dekutree64]

lol, it really is great though. Sticks in place so you can have your end mill submerged in lubricant without making a mess. Essential for 1/32" and smaller on a CNC without flood coolant.

[@nutgone100]

I bought some & I’m not impressed. My MolySlip MWF is far better. Americans go mad for Anchor, but I don’t rate it. Maybe they can’t get decent cutting compounds over there? 🤷‍♂️

[@MotoRestoFL]

@ I have a bottle of the product but the only really good use I’ve found is tapping cast iron with small taps like M5. When I installed the DRO’s on both my machines even with a new USA made tap, it was much easier with Anchor Lube. For other ops like milling or drilling steel, I find no benefit vs other lubricants. Max Grant uses a mix of dark cutting oil and WD40 and swears by it. Cheers.

[@65cj55]

I'm tired of seeing that snake oil, they've been sending it to everyone.

[@vandalsgarage]

I tried a bottle of the Anchor Lube, and for all the hype, I was expecting more.than it delivered. Its ok, I don't use it much, although its about the best I've found for machining stainless. For everything else, I use dark (sulferized) thread cutting oil diluted with kerosene. WD40 is mostly kerosene, so I can understand where your friend is coming from.

[@RB-yq7qv]

smart

[@rapidash1999]

lovely video as always :)

[@rapidash1999]

never buy a bandsaw lol the hacksaw is your brand!

[@TalRohan]

assuming I ever get my old lathe working this is exactly the kind of thing I need to make for it ....watching avidly ...no popcorn though I dont like it. Thanks for sharing

[@ZaphodBeeblebrox-ry5zs]

👍👍👍

[@justintupicruz6324]

Good job bro

[@stevenyates392]

With all the other tools we've seen you make, I'm surprised you haven't made your own bandsaw/power hacksaw yet? It would make you life a bit easier, and you take on one would be interesting to see.

[@ryebis]

Why not a tool post mount for the sherline motor ? You can reuse it for grinding etc.

[@johnelwer3633]

There was a lot of "should be just fine" in this one. I hope that isn't foreshadowing.

[@Lumpy_Strohhut]

a ''good'' anti backlash method is to cut the nut in halft and put a spring washer or spring inbetween.

[@se9741]

Very cool!

[@Kolokotrones]

I have a dedicated mill and lathe and yet I want this attachment 🤣

[@tokimodo2636]

"We have Smithy 1324 at home"

[@HeimoVN]

I obviously do not have the whole picture since I do not know what mods you have planned for your mill spindle, but the first question that popped into my head was whether it may not have been easier to make a whole new spindle using the mill in current form to do the milling and then simply install the custom spindle when done instead of making a milling attachment for the lathe... Either way, makes for good video.. You do great work...

[@hazza2247]

may i ask what brand of hacksaw blade u use???

[@howardosborne8647]

Foreversharp....there is never a dull moment with that brand😂

[@hazza2247]

@ i see what u did there

[@PeckhamHall]

The cap head holes are under size to help you bolt the rail straight as most are not perfectly straight.

[@bluejayfabrications2216]

What are you using for cutting compound I use rocol but it's a bit thick in winter

[@dieterlamm1819]

Really nice idea and brilliant fast and efficient work, love it. But please can you turn off the microphone when using the boring head, that noise gives me goosebumps.

[@1crazypj]

When are you going to mill some squre threads for a pressure screw (if lathe can make fast enough lead, probably need at least a 20mm pitch?)

[@kacperzurawski5699]

Those are not M6 screws that you should use on the linear rail but M5.

[@mundaryus]

Is there a band saw ban in Australia?

[@SOCMMOB]

I’ve never been this early before

[@belatoth3763]

In this type of anti backlash mechanism two thread hold the full load in one of the directions, while a lot more towards the other. I don't know, it looks weak

[@ogaugeclockwork4407]

You should have bolted the parts together to eliminate the weld distortion risk!

[@Brian_Of_Melbourne]

You didn't tell us the thread you used on the stud. I hope it's a metric thread so that it is a truly mongrel part. Could it even be 0BA to be really really annoying?

[@mr.picklesworth]

What is the socket hear cap screw in the back of your lathe tool for?

[@schwuzi]

Can you post a timestamp?

[@mr.picklesworth]

​@@schwuzi1:17

[@ourtube4266]

Everyone saying that the rails should take an m5 but I was thinking that they were sized for a 1/4-20 screw.

[@trumanhw]

buuut....why not machine it after you weld it up, that way it's square? I also struggle to understand why you didn't machine flat all 6 sides...??

[@MrDdaland]

I know workshop space is limited, but for God's sake someone buy him a portable bandsaw!

[@mechz83]

5/5👍🏻

[@MikelNaUsaCom]

fourty-two

[@Destros2ndone]

when you finally build yourself a bandsaw? 😂

[@georgehelliar]

'This is part of a larger project' which itself is part of a larger project and so on until the big reveal: 'I have built a 7-axis CNC bandsaw. But you wont get to see me use it, as I'm shutting the channel down. Thank you all for watching, goodbye'. Mark my words, this is the longest troll in youtube history

[@artemt1987ify]

He is basically wants to make a lathe mill combo what Optimum Opti-Turn Lathe & Mill Drill Combination does

[@jadedcarton]

yo

[@smashyrashy]

Last time i came this early my son was made

[@AntoineGst]

Single linear rail and single carriage ? 🫤

[@KBLIZZ333]

We'll get GTA6 before he gets a ....

[@DolezalPetr]

Oh my god bruh

[@JasonAWilliams-IS]

More hacksawing! Try getting a portable band saw.

[@infrabread]

[Insert snarky comment about snarky comment about using a hacksaw]

[@jonathanphillips6264]

It’s too late in the day

[@gary851]

dont cut stock by hand!