Making of a stave drum set - Part 2: Milling the shells

[@Sugarsail1]

Just finished building my first snare drum out of quarter sawn sycamore that I cut down and milled / dried two years ago....despite a few mistakes it came out pretty good and sounds killer. I will be using the rest of the sycamore to make an entire kit, including a 24" bass drum, so thanks for making a lot of mistakes on video so I can avoid them!

[@uweponitz3588]

Es ist super das Du auch die Probleme zeigst die passieren können 🎉❤

[@anthonyjones8143]

Good work man that looks amazing, cant wait to hear how they sound.

[@shotgundrums]

Nice work. Porter Cable makes a very small “laminate trimmer.” This 7310 works great for small shell ID cutting. Also, use a used dryer sheet to keep a lot of the chips from being ingested into the vent.

[@claudineielvbergb.4692]

Verii naice llolola!!

[@joshuakelly2665]

Brother, one woodworker to another, you need a good dust collection system. Wood dust is no joke and if you're blowing it off stuff, there's too much in your air. But good looking shells!

[@juhailola]

Thanks! The dust collection system is on a very long list of things that I need but don't have. So the mask has to do it for now. I only blow the dust with air compressor when I'm leaving the garage, so I don't have to be in that dust cloud longer that is needed. I actually have an ok cyclone-type of dust collector, but it just wouldn't fit in that jig, or makita's adapters. So, compromises had to be made...

[@joshuakelly2665]

@@juhailola what is your smallest shell? I was looking to build a stave set with an 8" tom and up but I can't figure out how to mill the inside of the 8 & 10" shells. I looked at palm routers, but the shortest one I could find is a Bosch that is 8" so won't fit inside. I've been racking my brain for a work around tool, but coming up short. Anyone have any suggestions? I have a smaller lathe, but it's not precision so it'd be incredibly difficult to get good results by free handing it.

[@juhailola]

@@joshuakelly2665 10" shell is the smallest.

[@ryancarver]

Very cool!

[@azurplex]

Dust collection is as easy as a vac. It can difficult on jigs but any amount collected helps. I's worth it.

[@obejeromichaeli.9899]

Looking forward for part 3

[@juhailola]

I need to start editing then :) It's coming, sooner or later...

[@RobertoBraz-xq9ue]

Eu.gostu.muintu.desi.trabalho..eu.tanben.fasu..esti..trabalho..emohinto..legau.😊

[@fredrikgeitung9620]

Looks good, nice jigs to, when i first tried, i f´ed up some things to :P When milling the inside, I found I get better results when I take the router back and forth with the staves, instead of rolling the shell like you do, i also use a bit with a rounded top, its a lot less sanding as well. :D

[@juhailola]

I will try that for the next shell. Sanding the inside was not really fun...

[@SimonLopezPsymon]

I try to do stave drums too. I have done 8" and 10" stave shell and I want to do jig for milling the outside. How does your shell is blocked in the jig? is it just clamped with the of wood on the threaded rod with nuts? Thx ! :-) (sorry for my bad english ^^)

[@juhailola]

Yes, it's clamped just like you said.

[@tombrenes2411]

In your shoes I’d build a phill collins kit

[@Rick_Sanchez_C137_]

Just a heads up… when you don’t use ear pro, there will come a time when the ringing in your ears is constant and loud….

[@annann6505]

Hi do you have a blue print for making the jig for the router to mill the inside and outside of the drum that you are willing to share. your videos are really interesting by the way

[@juhailola]

No, I didn't make any plans on paper. I just watched MurrayDrums jig videos (link in description) , used the material I had at the time and this is what I came up with.

[@mnkrck]

Thank you for the video! I was trying to find out if the makita would fit in the 10" drum. I asked another yt drumbuilder and he said no, 12" is minimum ;) I was actually planning to make slightly undersized shells like Sonor does... I guess that idea is out of the window... Could you please tell me the board thickness and the diameter your drum has? I guess its 9 7/8 inch, correct?

[@juhailola]

Inside diameter of the finished drum is about 235 mm, (9.2519685039 inch) outside diameter 250 mm (9.842519685 inch) so the shell thickness is roughly 8 mm (0.3149606299 inc). Yes, I used the first unit converter I found on google :) For board thickness I used the stave calculator and adjusted all measurements so that the router fits inside just barely.

[@IamFormaggio]

Excellent work. Is 8mm thickness required for stave construction? I believe plywood shells are thinner. I guess plywood is stronger.

[@juhailola]

I don't think anything is required for any kind of drum construction. Only your imagination is the limit. Yes, plywood is stronger, but then more tools/molds is needed. My goal was to make thin shells, but I have plans to make a thick snare drum at some point. So, I made stave drums because I didn't have tools to make them from plywood, but also because stave shell has almost no tension, therefore the tone/sound is lower than plywood shell. So thinner and minimum tension in the shell = lower tone.

[@Scatology900]

Nice job! What kind of router bit did you use?

[@juhailola]

Thanks! It was straight bit and around 20 mm in diameter.

[@Scatology900]

@@juhailola Hey Thanks for the answer! I did my first stave shell interior this afternoon and I used a 3/4 round nose bit... Since I do CNC programming as a living, it made sense to me to use a round nose bit for this kind of surface but I didn't realized that everyone use straight bit with that type of jig. Haha. It took forever to make and I didn't get a really great result.... :/ Tomorrow I will do a light pass with a straight bit to smooth it up.

[@juhailola]

@@Scatology900 Haha indeed :) Straight bit works great for outside, but for the inside it leaves kind of a bumpy surface. Maybe concave bit or different milling method?

[@juhailola]

Or actually now that I think about it, a round bit might be better for the inside. It just needs more passes but the end result should be smoother.

[@jaimegold4129]

Was the first part of this video simply thinning the shell?

[@juhailola]

Well yes, but mostly to make the outside of the shells round and to achieve the right outside diameter.

[@behradnasirimusic]

is the thickness of each drum shell same ? or different ? for example thickness of snare is same with bass drum ?

[@juhailola]

I tried to make them as thin as possible, they are about 6mm to 8mm thick. So almost same thickness for every shell.

[@behradnasirimusic]

@@juhailola ok 6mm to 8mm for final thickness! and how about before shaving wood i mean thickness of each stave before milling inside and outside of shells? how many drum sets did you make with stave technique.. i want to know about the acoustics and yoyr exprience about tonewwod issue ? a

[@juhailola]

@@behradnasirimusic Staves were 22mm before milling. I have made only this drum set so far. I didn't understand your last question. I used this site to plan all the measurenents uniontownlabs.org/tools/stave/

[@behradnasirimusic]

@@juhailola i got my answer , thank you for sharing! i am researching my first drum set .. i will check that website also. Thanks a lot man

[@paweflisikowski1743]

Hi! What router do you use to fit into 10" tom?

[@juhailola]

Makita RT0700CX5J

[@kriskris9440]

Good job. I wonder how thick the shell are ? Toms and bass drum. If it's not a secret, please let me know. Congratulations on a successful set and good luck with your further work

[@juhailola]

Thanks! I think they are about 8mm thick.

[@JonttuOG]

Pitää kyllä kans tehdä joku setti itelleen. Mistä ostit puut ja hardwaret?

[@juhailola]

No toki👍 Puutavaran ostelin paikallisesta puumestasta (sikäli kun en ite viittiny kaadella/kuivatella) ja hardwaren saksalaisesta stdrums.com/en intternettikaupasta. Tuolta löytyy periaatteessa kaikki mitä tarvii rummun tekoon.

[@anditoba4096]

How thick it Juha?

[@juhailola]

How thick is what?

[@anditoba4096]

@@juhailola finish thicknes of the drum

[@juhailola]

@@anditoba4096 About 6-8mm