Making Simple Linux Distro from Scratch

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Nir Lichtman

Nir Lichtman

Күн бұрын

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@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 2 ай бұрын
- Note that if you don't get the bzImage is ready message when make finishes, it may be that the build failed, try running make without the -j flag, this can help you see the error more clearly (if you use -j it can cause the error message from the build to get mixed with the output coming from the other build threads which can be confusing since you need to scroll up until you see the error)
@Fellintr
@Fellintr 7 ай бұрын
This ~12 minute video explained it better than the entire "Linux From Scratch" book.
@takodaos
@takodaos 7 ай бұрын
The difference is that as the video said, this setup isn't usable or stable for production. Linux From Scratch, if done properly, can be
@_lun4r_
@_lun4r_ 6 ай бұрын
@@takodaos you can theoretically just use this busybox and init script as a bootstrapper for a fuller distro, like alpine
@OdyseeEnjoyer
@OdyseeEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
My guy really using Ubuntu on Windows Terminal with DWM to build a distro from scratch
@user-zn3zx6fk7u
@user-zn3zx6fk7u Жыл бұрын
i legit had to go to the bathroom bc of that
@Opensky-12
@Opensky-12 Жыл бұрын
Your "Guy" mabye use WSL (Windows Subsystem For Linux)
@huhulili9021
@huhulili9021 Жыл бұрын
​@@Opensky-12'your "guy"' most definitely did not use WSL lmao, he literally spun up a docker container step 1
@Opensky-12
@Opensky-12 Жыл бұрын
@@huhulili9021 Sorry
@darkceptor44
@darkceptor44 Жыл бұрын
@@huhulili9021 docker desktop (windows) depends on wsl but it exposes the docker command to use in cmd/psh
@techhoppy
@techhoppy Жыл бұрын
I have run Linux since kernel 0.99 (Slackware on floppies) and never really knew/thought about the individual bits and pieces that make up a Linux system. This is super educational. I would love to see an expanded version of this that allows for a basic Linux distro (that includes everything that you mention it would need for production) but without any of the bloat that normally comes with distros. A tiny server Linux if you will. Also, just in general, thank you for making these videos - they're awesome! I appreciate the time and effort you put into them.
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's a cool idea :) maybe also in the direction of making a minimalist distro for raspberry pi
@facist_monk
@facist_monk Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman - Yes - as is said "you stole words from my mouth", raspberry pi. now i use diet pi but I still want to see the development from start for educational means. and 1 more thing now my eyes will be looking for the files shown in your video as Linux boots up on my laptop 😆
@techhoppy
@techhoppy Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman Yes, that would be awesome!
@samoylov1973
@samoylov1973 Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman, thank you for the videos, that you make. A minimalist distro for raspberry pi sounds nice. Please do it, when you've got time. Waiting for it.
@reyuki-i
@reyuki-i Жыл бұрын
agreed, it would be very helpful!
@faithinverity8523
@faithinverity8523 10 ай бұрын
I have been studying how to do this for thirty years and this is the most coherent explanation/demonstration of how to make a bootable system that I have seen. This is a magnificent work. Thank you.
@alexviralata1356
@alexviralata1356 Жыл бұрын
Wow, so this is the way to a truly unbloated distro bliss! Good stuff!
@nonenothingnull
@nonenothingnull Жыл бұрын
real unbloated implies kernel only has necessary options to run on hardware, busybox without the extra cruft...
@peterreed3104
@peterreed3104 Жыл бұрын
WinXP Desktop Pure genius How long ago?
@alexviralata1356
@alexviralata1356 Жыл бұрын
@@nonenothingnull Bro! How deep goes the rabbit hole?!?
@nonenothingnull
@nonenothingnull Жыл бұрын
@@alexviralata1356 very, tcc instead of gcc, musl, etc..
@the_original_dude
@the_original_dude Жыл бұрын
​@@nonenothingnull who cares about busybox, it's only needed for a second at the startup. The real pain is choosing only the needed kernel options, while also maximizing the performance.
@SystemTomcat
@SystemTomcat Жыл бұрын
I think this is the best educated Linux tutorial I've ever seen
@bones.24
@bones.24 7 ай бұрын
Are you lying?
@notaprogrammer123
@notaprogrammer123 6 ай бұрын
No​@@bones.24
@yesh420
@yesh420 6 ай бұрын
@@bones.24 why would he?
@bones.24
@bones.24 6 ай бұрын
@@yesh420 prophets lied, why wouldn’t he
@yesh420
@yesh420 6 ай бұрын
@@bones.24 wdym?
@torspedia
@torspedia Жыл бұрын
Even though I have no interest in doing something like this myself, I found the whole process rather interesting. 🙂
@DrVektor
@DrVektor 2 ай бұрын
I can't believe it. Was it that simple? You must be the best teacher in the world. You explained everything so clearly and in such a short time, you are great.
@hgilbert
@hgilbert Жыл бұрын
my dream of creating my very own linux distro one day, is a step closer. thanks! i tried LFS a long time ago, but gave up half way through did something wrong didn't know what. but yeah a full distro from scratch how cool is that. for educational purposes too.
@Mempler
@Mempler Жыл бұрын
I mean, lfs is more for developers. People who already know their way around on debugging the worst and shittiest situation possible
@LewisCowles
@LewisCowles Жыл бұрын
@@Mempler feels like this is for a certain kind of user too. Using docker and not volume mounting /boot-files, so that you have to docker cp later... omitting the configuration of syslinux using vi, instead of cat or echo to create files. It's nonetheless great to have many people with different ways of achieving what they need.
@Mempler
@Mempler Жыл бұрын
@@LewisCowles agreed, doing lfs helped me to learn linux in depth. funnily enough, i never read the book. I literally just googled a shit ton and reverse engineered arch linux lol
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 10 ай бұрын
I see LFS as something that everyone serious about Linux should install once, and then never actually use it. (If you really _want_ to use it, you can, but it probably won't be very enjoyable.)
@MadMathMike
@MadMathMike Жыл бұрын
You did this in 12 minutes?! That's crazy! 🤯
@BoominGame
@BoominGame 8 ай бұрын
That's linux, once you go black you don;t come back.
@xcoder1122
@xcoder1122 Жыл бұрын
Instead of dd if=/dev/zero of=boot bs=1M count=50 you can also use truncate -s 50M boot truncate changes the size of a file. If the file does not yet exist, truncate creates it. If the size is shorter than it used to be, the file is in fact just "truncated", hence the name. Yet if the size is bigger, zeros are added at the end until the file reaches the desired new size. Not only is the command shorter, it also has another advantage: truncate creates a sparse file on systems that support that. That may not matter in this example but it would matter if the file was 100 GB in size. In a sparse file, only blocks of that file that contain actual data also use real disk space. All blocks that are still zero filled are virtual, they don't use any disk space and they are also not actually created when you created the file, so file creation is also ultra fast, as all that really happens is that a directory entry is created for that file. Yet when the file is accessed, it will always behave to any file operation as if the file really was 100 GB in size and all filled with zeros. If you jump to the middle of the file and write some data there, only blocks covered by that data will materialize and actually consume disk space, the rest of the file stays virtual.
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Nice, didn't know about truncate, will be useful for my upcoming graphical Linux from scratch video, thanks!
@leapbtw
@leapbtw Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman just seen this one, can’t wait :)
@Yazan_Majdalawi
@Yazan_Majdalawi 11 ай бұрын
First time knowing about sparse files, I love it! Thanks for the great comment ⚘️
@BoominGame
@BoominGame 8 ай бұрын
Very instructive thanks!
@_lun4r_
@_lun4r_ 7 ай бұрын
@@nirlichtman or use something like "fallocate -l 50M image" to do it in yet another way
@TSPxEclipse
@TSPxEclipse Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, my genius brain clicked on this video thinking you were about to build a basic operating system written in Scratch. And now I want to see someone actually try to do that.
@commander3494
@commander3494 11 ай бұрын
I mean, there is linux on scratch
@AmilieMC
@AmilieMC 11 ай бұрын
yeah but that's just using the linux kernel making a disto, not a new OS itself@@commander3494
@ghosthunter0950
@ghosthunter0950 8 ай бұрын
​@@commander3494 Is that a word play on Linux from scratch?
@commander3494
@commander3494 8 ай бұрын
@@ghosthunter0950 im not sure if ifs intentional or not
@_lun4r_
@_lun4r_ 7 ай бұрын
@@ghosthunter0950no but it's just running a compact RISC-V emulator to run a VERY RUDIMENTARY Linux implementation that does not include most of the basic system utilities, and even text editing is limited to "ed" only, not even "vi", and forget about "nano"
@nabir14
@nabir14 5 ай бұрын
I am working on a linux distro and your video helped a lot. Thanks.
@Ooo0ooooO00oo
@Ooo0ooooO00oo 11 ай бұрын
Funnily enough this is also exactly how Linus Torvalds created the first version of Linux back in the days. He just fired up docker and booted some Ubuntu image
@gabrieldornelles9310
@gabrieldornelles9310 8 ай бұрын
I laughed so hard, just opened the video and scrolled to the comments and saw that
@mehdieloualy2082
@mehdieloualy2082 5 ай бұрын
He should have used punch cards instead
@xoxogamewolf7585
@xoxogamewolf7585 4 ай бұрын
yep
@jsark0756
@jsark0756 4 ай бұрын
@@mehdieloualy2082 I remember seeing my first punch card machine in the 80s in a room full of IBM Mainframes, I thought I was on another planet!
@JonathanNelson-nelsonj3
@JonathanNelson-nelsonj3 8 ай бұрын
Thank you this video! I have been using Linux for years, but I am interviewing with a company that builds their own kernel for their product and I wanted to know something about the process. This helped me so much!
@learnwithcode4211
@learnwithcode4211 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Nir. It was my dream to build my own distro. I printed my name on the distro. Thanks again!
@KryllyxOfficial
@KryllyxOfficial 11 ай бұрын
Really cool to see this, thank you for the simple and easy to follow tutorial. I look forward to diving deeper into how this works.
@Dr.Schiwago
@Dr.Schiwago 3 ай бұрын
Just awesome, clean and simple, no bells and jingles. Thanks for sharing bro!
@MrXiongbaobao
@MrXiongbaobao Ай бұрын
It worked ! For info, I encountered the same mount problem (failed to set up loop device) as other commenters, just copied the boot file to my host system and did the "mount boot m + copy" operations from there.
@Strong256
@Strong256 Жыл бұрын
May God bless you bro😂 I needed this tutorial. I tried this at first but since i knew nothing about where to place the kernel, or about how to create and use a bootloader, the best i could do was only to make a chroot folder (and i became really good at it lol i even forged my own "terminal" and got it to work in chroot) but now im gonna be practicing this new knowledge everytime i get a chance. Thanks a Lot. For now all i can do is add you a new sub. 🎉
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@Strong256
@Strong256 Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman pleasure bro. One day you'll get as many views as you deserve
@Strong256
@Strong256 Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman also, have you tried to make a syslinux boot disk with a drive size of say 8mb/8 counts? It doesn't work. Do you possibly know any reason why?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
You mean you are trying to write syslinux on a physical disk of 8MB?
@Strong256
@Strong256 Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman I mean a disk file (dd if=/dev/zero of=eight bs=1M count=8) kind of thing. Another issue I have seen is that it loads the kernel and the initramfs but it kinda gets stuck there , even after I followed the along with your tutorial.
@shirojuancarlos3926
@shirojuancarlos3926 11 ай бұрын
This is the absolute best tutorial on this topic. Please do a tutorial on compiling more packages for the custom operating system. Packages like GCC, sudo, nano and whatnot. And please also do videos on setting up ttys that work hand in hand with key configurations, I've set up my ttys but they don't work with key configurations. A lot of demands here but please also do a video on setting up the root user, sudo (root access) users and normal users, as well as, how to compile and set up wayland, xorg, sddm and possibly even KDE Plasma.
@fabiosarts
@fabiosarts Жыл бұрын
That's so cool :O I did LFS like three times and i always wondered how could i simplify the process to the maximum
@janjuliusvannieuwenhuyze9853
@janjuliusvannieuwenhuyze9853 10 ай бұрын
Following this tutorial was easier than installing arch Linux
@_lun4r_
@_lun4r_ 6 ай бұрын
Except this is not arch so it doesn't help you in the slightest
@CosmiTech_Cosmo
@CosmiTech_Cosmo 27 күн бұрын
I mean in Arch Linux you can just type archinstall and it basically does it for your @janjuliusvannieuwenhuyze9853
@24Shredder
@24Shredder Жыл бұрын
This video is gold, thanks man. Ever thought about making a video on your very custom distro using the knowledge you showed us in this video?
@bizulk
@bizulk 10 ай бұрын
Hello. If I understood correclty the ramfs is indeed for syslinux. The kernel will mount the cpio archive pointed out by syslinux to the kernel through the command linux. I remember It is also possible to embbed the cpio inside the bzImage itself (option in menuconfig).
@TaschenRechner22
@TaschenRechner22 Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Nir! I have a few followup questions. 1) You used the default kernel config file that came with the repo, instead of replacing it with your Ubuntu machine's config file. And in the default config file, the only change you made was enabling 64 bit. Would that cause any issues if you were to use this kernel in production, since it wasn't "handcrafted" for your machine? 2) Why don't you have to run 'make modules' after you make the kernel? Does the default config file just set all modules to be compiled into the kernel? 3) If you set some modules in the config file to be compiled external from the kernel, where would we copy those .ko module binaries so the kernel could use them? Would they need to be copied into the initramfs cpio archive? Or would they need to be placed on a real disk in a root filesystem the kernel would switch to after it goes through initramfs? 4) Since you copied BusyBox directly into the initramfs archive, the kernel didn't need to mount any real root file system on a real disk. However, suppose we did want to use a real root fs on a real disk, and install BusyBox there instead. How would we need to change the init program and initramfs directory structure and content to make the kernel mount the real disk and change the root directory to the one on the disk?
@tobyboulton8340
@tobyboulton8340 6 ай бұрын
Having busybox errors on the install? Edit the .config which is produced from make menuconfig FIND -> CONFIG_TC=y CHANGE TO -> CONFIG_TC=n make clean, make, make install
@RochdiOS
@RochdiOS 5 ай бұрын
thx bro you saved me
@mangrogred
@mangrogred Ай бұрын
thx bro
@danya-cc7pd
@danya-cc7pd Ай бұрын
thx u
@TestTest-vx9yr
@TestTest-vx9yr 29 күн бұрын
nice
@ChaiRuou
@ChaiRuou 10 ай бұрын
this make me recall the time we were trying with LFS distro - just doing it without understand anything :)
@komram4396
@komram4396 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for guide. I wonder , how extendable this system in your opinion ? I have been through Lfs book and I can't get rid of intrusive thoughts to build a (mostly) gnuless system from a linux installation you shown. I completely understand that it doesn't make any sense, pure enthusiasm and curiosity.
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
It is as extendable as any other distro except that you need to manually bring over the package binaries for every tool you use (or manage to get some package manager running). To make it actually usable for day to day you would probably also want to setup proper tty devices, init (and not just start the shell right away like i do in the vid - busybox also includes init built in but I didn't use it in this video) and a persistent file system to start after the initramfs
@TheOnlyBootlegger
@TheOnlyBootlegger Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman nah just write every program you need in vi like a real hacker
@itsoctotv
@itsoctotv Жыл бұрын
​@@nirlichtmando you have some documentation or recommendations on the persistent storage thing?
@LtdJorge
@LtdJorge Жыл бұрын
@@itsoctotvYou could create a 1GB zeroes file, format it with EXT4 and mount it at boot. The first part is the same as the FAT one here, then you have to pass it to QEMU and also write an fstab that mounts it, etc.
@_lun4r_
@_lun4r_ 7 ай бұрын
@@nirlichtmantheoretically it maybe supports a subset of Debian packages since a minimal dpkg is present on it by default
@chalybesmith
@chalybesmith Жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I would enjoy more like these!
@uuu12343
@uuu12343 Жыл бұрын
Its hilarious how BusyBox is basically a legitimate add-on to docker in that both are containers but BusyBox works as a "from scratch" image for Docker, more so than the docker official scratch image itself
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын
Looks like someone else also watched Rob Landley's video on a minimalist Linux. Although this is even tighter than his, even if it doesn't exit properly.
@nourway3639
@nourway3639 5 ай бұрын
Really cool videos, may I know how did you learn these stuff. Because I am trying to learn linux kernel for a long time with no significant progress
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 4 ай бұрын
Experience and curiosity :) Check out the welcome link on my channel for suggested learning resources
@fakestiv
@fakestiv 7 ай бұрын
How did this come to be? I mean... I already knew what a bootloader, kernel, busybox and initramfs did, but I never knew (or even got close to thinking for that matter) that you could put them together just like this. Did you first come up with the idea to do the bare minimum to get a shell working as init process, then read how the initramfs worked in detail just to get the system running and finally looked for a minimalist bootloader? Just how did this pop in your mind?
@myrnstories69
@myrnstories69 11 ай бұрын
Hi i keep getting an error when mounting boot as m (mount: m: failed to setup loop device for /boot-files/boot.)
@djsekav
@djsekav 10 ай бұрын
Try it with sudo
@theonlyasher
@theonlyasher 10 ай бұрын
me too, idk why and in docker im root
@NickMoore
@NickMoore 11 ай бұрын
Very cool and well communicated. Thanks!
@almostxjp
@almostxjp Жыл бұрын
Can you make a follow up video like configuring syslinux to auto boot the os and adding persistence or burning it to a iso/img
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a good idea! BTW the image in the end that I boot with qemu is a disk image you can burn also to a physical disk using dd for example
@nonetrix3066
@nonetrix3066 Жыл бұрын
Instead of running the shell with the shell, you could just use a symlink I think?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a good point :)
@abrahimzaman360
@abrahimzaman360 Жыл бұрын
How?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
@@abrahimzaman360 ln -s
@cepmadbrozzer4448
@cepmadbrozzer4448 Жыл бұрын
Good point if you're not going to extend script further. Which I doubt if you would like to play with your distro and extend it.
@ameykaran
@ameykaran 4 ай бұрын
I'm unable to mount the boot file as it fails to setup loop device for /boot-files/boot
@ABCABC-sw8mh
@ABCABC-sw8mh Жыл бұрын
How to create an iso from the img, maybe with grub to automatically load kernel +initramfs
@avidlearner710
@avidlearner710 3 күн бұрын
Great video, very good and clear explanation, ty :)
@Tracing0029
@Tracing0029 11 ай бұрын
technically with EFI stub compiled into the kernel, you can directly boot it from uefi, no bootloader needed.
@prayer4675
@prayer4675 7 ай бұрын
Amazing and very useful for studying Linux!
@notactulurus
@notactulurus Жыл бұрын
I know a lot of people have asked the same question, but how would I write this to a USB drive to boot it on a real machine? I've tried to use tools like dd or genisoimage, but even after a few hours, I still can't get it to work. Usually, it just says there's no bootable device, other times, it says the device doesn't support UEFI booting.
@Daniel-cc5ph
@Daniel-cc5ph Жыл бұрын
Hello NIr, thank you very much for all your "in-depth" and short, very well explained videos! Great! Do you like to do a "real" minimalistic linux system with a graphical interface with that approach? What do you think? Or is it too much to think of and better take arch linux and do a minimalistic linux with dwm, vim and so on from there? Thanks, shalom and best regards Daniel
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Shalom Daniel, Thanks :) I haven't tried running Xorg on this distro so I am not sure if it would work, I do skip a few things that may be necessary to make the graphical interface work (for example running a proper init and setting up the tty devices), but this is a great idea for an additional video about actually setting up a minimalist graphical linux distro from scratch
@benikegaming
@benikegaming Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman any update on this?
@Artimis.depressed
@Artimis.depressed Жыл бұрын
Can you explain how you got DWM on what I assume to be windows?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Explanation in the welcome link on my channel description
@Artimis.depressed
@Artimis.depressed Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman OK thank you - Artimis, bird of war.
@aciddev_
@aciddev_ Жыл бұрын
cool! combined with something like sinit and sbase and voila - extremely small desktop linux :)
@gauthamnair
@gauthamnair 3 күн бұрын
It works, however when I try to install many more applications to the initramfs folder, like Python, Vim, etc, and make an init.cpio out of it, while boot, it says init.cpio not found. Or when I try putting syslinux.cfg and specify the init.cpio there, it says init.cpio....failed.....bad file number. Can you help me on that?
@TON-vz3pe
@TON-vz3pe 11 ай бұрын
I have few things to request if you don't mind creating a video. 1. Can you create a distro using a base debian or ubuntu image? 2. Illustration of how to use systemd as a init system. 3. And use Grub2 as the bootloader.
@rajanandj1177
@rajanandj1177 10 ай бұрын
I wanted to customize the kernel for development boards (embedded systems) and this video being what i realy expects by building the ninux kernel from scratch making this video as a series that show the other options for production standards
@raghav2032
@raghav2032 6 ай бұрын
Hey you installed busybox differently but *Build Minimal Linux in 1 Hour* guy did make a static binary and linked it inside /bin/busybox Can I ask what is the difference which is better approach?
@alexdumais
@alexdumais 11 ай бұрын
The step I'm not following fully is at 9:25 when you mount boot into m. What happens when you mount a file to a directory then copy those files into that mounted directory?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 11 ай бұрын
The file I am mounting on the directory is a disk image I initialized as a FAT file system, after I copy those files into the mounted directory it adds those files to the FAT file system on the disk image so the Syslinux bootloader that I installed on the disk image can find the kernel and initramfs
@simplyhexagon
@simplyhexagon Жыл бұрын
Hello! I might be doing something wrong, but I tried to boot this on an older laptop without EFI support. Seemingly everything seems to be fine (booting it with GRUB, actually), but after I get a few messages from the kernel printed to the screen, everything goes black, my pendrive (the boot device) blinks a few times and I get stuck there. What could possibly be the issue?
@soheibmemes2594
@soheibmemes2594 Ай бұрын
idk but maybe good starting point for a small busybox/linux musl setup thingy (maybe even use an init system like openrc!)
@laureven
@laureven 11 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank You .... Only I would change one thing :) ...as a total beginner, it would be nice to see the result / what to expect on the beginning of the video, and then the explanation how to do it. For me the experience was as : command after command, and I had no idea where we are going :) ...on the end it was totally worth it :) Thank You
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! 👍
@chrissmith7669
@chrissmith7669 Жыл бұрын
I can’t remember the name but in the pre Linux kernel 1.00 days there used to be a single boot floppy that would ask a bunch of questions, download and compile from sources. In those days I’d boot it and answer everything in the morning then let it down load, configure, compile, and install till the next morning. Lol. Ah the good ole days
@blackthorne-rose
@blackthorne-rose 8 ай бұрын
"mount: m: failed to setup loop device for /boot-files/boot." ???
@blackthorne-rose
@blackthorne-rose 8 ай бұрын
problem solved... did "apt upgrade" in addition to "apt update"...
@pcartisan2721
@pcartisan2721 Жыл бұрын
BRAVO, BRAVO! That was great!
@anand-nb4bb
@anand-nb4bb 2 ай бұрын
I have a query. I am trying to compile a kernel for testing purposes. I don't want to add/install it to linux, just want to compile & see how much time it takes to compile. So regarding my query, is there a way to monitor how much time it takes like some flag or option to be given before the compile command to know how much time it took to compile. My send query is that is there something called as linking after compiling the kernel if its there can you please let me know how to do it Kindly help. Please reply.
@lonk199
@lonk199 Жыл бұрын
When doing "mount boot m" I get an error: "mount: m: mount failed: Operation not permitted." I've searched online but nothing seems to work, please help
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Have you run the docker in privileged mode?
@lonk199
@lonk199 Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtmanwhen i try to do -privileged when running the container is says that -privileged doesn’t exist: "unknown flag: --privileged"
@lonk199
@lonk199 Жыл бұрын
nvm i fixed it, i ran a new container and --privileged worked this time
@saidafzalkholkhujaev
@saidafzalkholkhujaev Жыл бұрын
windows -> wsl -> ubuntu -> dwm -> distro from scratch
@JohnMitchellCalif
@JohnMitchellCalif 11 ай бұрын
super clear and interesting! Subscribed.
@reyuki-i
@reyuki-i 8 ай бұрын
So this Linux system wasn't mounted to the root filesystem and instead stuck in the initramfs? I notice the root filesystem is not created. Wow looks interesting, didn't know that it would work.
@jimmyscott5144
@jimmyscott5144 11 ай бұрын
Have you done one about buildroot? To make custom os for customs apps light weight
@zobayer1
@zobayer1 11 ай бұрын
anyone else failing with "mount: m: failed to setup loop device for /boot-files/boot." on the first mount command?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 11 ай бұрын
Make sure you started the docker with the privileged flag
@amosnimos
@amosnimos Ай бұрын
Does it have a package manager? can you install a DE and x11?
@AlexBastola
@AlexBastola Жыл бұрын
what do you recommend i look into/do if i want to go further in making it useable?
@iflyplanesthrutunnels
@iflyplanesthrutunnels Жыл бұрын
why was this recommended to me at 12:​53 AM and why am I watching this
@shortwaverPL
@shortwaverPL Жыл бұрын
such amazing video. Can U publish similar but to create minimal system to boot on old raspberry 1/2 ? Regards!
@MasterH2005
@MasterH2005 10 ай бұрын
Also, do you think you could please make a tutorial video on how to compile the custom distro into an ISO file?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 10 ай бұрын
No need to create an ISO to get this running on a real computer, since all you have to do is write the boot image to a physical disk using something like dd for example (I should have added .img to the boot image name in the video to avoid confusion)
@mrbnn-j3d
@mrbnn-j3d 13 күн бұрын
how to create the iso image?
@tonyflamingo6614
@tonyflamingo6614 3 ай бұрын
3:00 i didn’t get the bzimage is ready message. What can i do?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps the build failed, try running make without the -j flag, this can help you see the error more clearly (if you use -j it can cause the error message from the build to get mixed with the output coming from the other build threads)
@Lucy-Luc-Lu-L
@Lucy-Luc-Lu-L 10 ай бұрын
So I've tried doing this on my M1 mac and spent an hour swearing and cussing ;-) So the problem is the arm architecture (even the menuconfig is different). It creates a slightly differnt image (Image.gz) etc. And the worst problem is the bootloader. Syslinux doesn't exist there (but there is some syslinux-common package). If you could suggest some workarounds, it'd be great. Tried playing with u-boot, but since I have very little experience with bootloaders, I didn't make much progress. In the end I emulated the right architecture (docker run --platform linux/amd64) and I'm doing it from scratch again. However it's visibly slower. On original architecture, the kernel compiled in 8 minutes. Now I'm way past it and it's still compiling
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 10 ай бұрын
A possible solution to decrease the build time is to cross compile, you can try for example buildroot which should help easily cross compiling for different archs
@Mikami063
@Mikami063 9 ай бұрын
me too, i can feel you
@SystemTomcat
@SystemTomcat Жыл бұрын
I'm getting an error with mount: `mount: m: failed to setup loop device for /boot-files/boot.` EDIT - FIXED: If you get the same error, just create a loop device and try mounting the file. If mount doesn't work, use losetup (search “how to mount file using losetup”). If losetup doesn't work *after* you've tried mount, delete the loop device by rebooting and try again, but just try losetup and not mount. How to create a loop device: `$ sudo mknod -m 660 /dev/loop0 b 7 0`
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Interesting, do you have loop devices in the /dev directory (for example /dev/loop1)? mount uses a loop device when mounting a file Also, what distro and architecture are you using and do you get anything more with mount -v?
@SystemTomcat
@SystemTomcat Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman Oh, I don’t have any loop devices. I did `lsblk` and didn’t see any loop devices. I was using the ubuntu:latest image on Docker with x86_64 if that helps. I can’t run the command right now, unfortunately.
@SystemTomcat
@SystemTomcat Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman I fixed it! It was just as simple as creating a loop device myself.
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
@@SystemTomcat Nice :)
@xoxogamewolf7585
@xoxogamewolf7585 4 ай бұрын
thx
@plasmacotton
@plasmacotton 2 ай бұрын
the busybox make CONFIG_PREFIX step is broken...
@igamblenull2258
@igamblenull2258 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I wanted also to implement the switching from the initramfs to a normal ext4 partition. It took me the last 6 hours because I had to use a different bootloader (systemd boot on aarch64) and because the fucking UEFI implementation for QEMU (asahi linux) did not had a SATA driver built in, I was not able to boot from any SATA disk, which means I have to use a virtio disk to boot and the Linux kernel did not want to detect a virtio disk but an SATA disk which means, I am currently having two disks with the same img file just to be able to boot from it and mount it in Linux. Arm is nice but the next time I am doing it on my Desktop with x86 xD
@1deadb0b
@1deadb0b Жыл бұрын
I too managed to do this but after a few days of reading and reverse engineering the archlinux iso mine is the same thing as in the video up until the init file, which instead of calling /bin/sh, mounts the hdd, chroots into it and asks for login without the kernel dying if you press Ctrl+D its very simple and not very operational so far but I think I can easily add systemd, git and gcc, and eventually make an actual distro out of that you can add your own packages
@mrni6502
@mrni6502 Жыл бұрын
Hey man nice job on the tutorial! Only thing im stuck on is mounting the boot file. It says that it keeps on saying that vfat is unknown. Im not sure what I did wrong.
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Perhaps you forgot to install the dosfstools ?
@mrni6502
@mrni6502 Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman weird thing is that I have it installed. I'll reinstall it again and check it
@mrni6502
@mrni6502 Жыл бұрын
@@nirlichtman yeah it still gives me that error for some reason
@metl_play
@metl_play Жыл бұрын
So busy box is a user space? What are alternatives, primarily interested into using apt, if applicable a basic GUI (I have my mind of what Icon set I want to use). Those options are and or conditions. Just want to know some user space alternatives and its names.
@metl_play
@metl_play Жыл бұрын
ofc I meant user space interface
@Person1873
@Person1873 Жыл бұрын
You could also use gnu coreutils or uutils (rust rewrite of coreutils) These are the minimal set of Unix tools to have a functional cli You'll also need a proper init system like runit,initrc,systemd if you want to build a modern functional os
@metl_play
@metl_play Жыл бұрын
@@Person1873 Thank you very much. I just started to stick my head into this topic. This is very useful information, as before I wasn't able to find much about it without knowing what to look for.
@ΜάκηςΣτεφάτος
@ΜάκηςΣτεφάτος Жыл бұрын
Make a video showing how to install gcc on that distro
@Siissioe123
@Siissioe123 11 ай бұрын
is there a way to run the boot file on vbox?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 11 ай бұрын
Shouldn't be a problem, you can also boot this on a real computer, it is a bootable disk image
@sabirrajabov
@sabirrajabov 7 ай бұрын
I have a custom built distro without boot configuration. So based on this tutorial, i did convert my whole root directory into init.cpio (init script also added). And did the same boot configuration(based on distro size, i have created the boot file with count=4000 (4GB)). But when i want to run the kernel via qemu, "init.cpio...failed, no such file or directory" error occures. Does anyone have a idea? The cpio file exist i had double check.
@reyuki-i
@reyuki-i 8 ай бұрын
If I want to use the default init from the busybox instead of the simple bash you provide, what should I prepare?
8 ай бұрын
LFS will guide you :)
@_lun4r_
@_lun4r_ 7 ай бұрын
Just compile busybox with it and "ln -s sbin/init init" so the kernel can use it
@AlexChen-bu2de
@AlexChen-bu2de Жыл бұрын
Slackware installer is my ideal distro 😂
@tonywmckinney
@tonywmckinney 10 ай бұрын
Anyone know why I'm getting this on the "mount boot m" step? Tried ubuntu and Debian containers.
@tonywmckinney
@tonywmckinney 10 ай бұрын
Never mind. Turns out it was a Docker issue. Once I updated Docker, it works.
@NaomiUsman
@NaomiUsman Ай бұрын
Great video! Been trying to replicate on my own. I use a MacOS and I am using Multipass VM will it work the same way?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Ай бұрын
Thanks! I don't know Multipass but from what I understand it helps bring up Ubuntu virtual machine, so shouldn't be a problem. Only thing is that to run QEMU you'll probably want graphics so you might want to run QEMU natively on the Mac if Multipass is CLI only. (you can also technically run QEMU without graphics by passing -nographic and a serial tty option to the kernel command line)
@NaomiUsman
@NaomiUsman Ай бұрын
@@nirlichtman Thank you for the response! I'd try this and come back to let you know if it works.
@stevenchristenson2428
@stevenchristenson2428 8 ай бұрын
I had to do somth9ing very similar before to be able to boot systemd system when using a btrfs file system. I however did not use busybox as I did not need a full enviroment to work in. The system basically just needed to load up enough system to be able to read the file system and start systemd, then pivot root into the real FS. Funny enough what you did is pretty much what dracut and other programs are actually doing when they create the initramfs image.
@k.r.3821
@k.r.3821 9 ай бұрын
It would be nice to start with Docker installation. Not everybody knows what it is.
@silme9417
@silme9417 Жыл бұрын
I love your video, can you make one on how to make http request for windows os?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Yes, I plan on covering some winsock related stuff as well :)
@FuniCatreal
@FuniCatreal 3 ай бұрын
Thats cool! But yet, how can i add like, packages to it? Like, some GUI of sort? Or, python?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 3 ай бұрын
One option is to compile them from source and transfer the files, I have another related video of making a graphical distro in which I demonstrate compilation of another project called MicroWindows which provides a graphical interface (but I don't have a video about setting up X11/Wayland yet). Another option is to try setting up a package manager.
@FuniCatreal
@FuniCatreal 3 ай бұрын
@@nirlichtman nevermind, microwindows already supports x11, and thats what i need!
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 3 ай бұрын
@@FuniCatreal sort of supports but not really since you need to recompile x11 programs to be able to run them on microwindows. Also, in many cases it can happen that programs use specific x11 features/functions that microwindows does not support. still would recommend taking a look at microwindows since it is an interesting project
@tarksapmaz7690
@tarksapmaz7690 4 ай бұрын
As far as I can see, you do not have a training video series on these areas here or somewhere like udemy, do you have a plan for this in the future? You have very good information and your narrative style is very clear and clean.
@Reelix
@Reelix 11 ай бұрын
MFW your x64 kernel compiles into the arch/x86 folder ._.
@reyuki-i
@reyuki-i Жыл бұрын
6:15 Ahh, it confuses me, much like the chicken and egg situation 😅
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman Жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the fact that I used the shell to start the shell? I am just running the shell and the first command the shell is going to run is the shell :)
@CEOofGameDev
@CEOofGameDev Жыл бұрын
Oh, yes, my dream is now one step closer to being realized. Soon enough you all shall tremble before the power of my own linux distro, liNUTS.
@kobodrago2758
@kobodrago2758 11 ай бұрын
I am gonna try once i get some time to spare. Really interesting. Can we make a distro with AI integration ?
@PAFBEAST
@PAFBEAST 10 ай бұрын
Great question
@fabrilluviaofficial
@fabrilluviaofficial 10 ай бұрын
boot is not an "*.img" file. help please!
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 10 ай бұрын
Where do you get this error?
@fabrilluviaofficial
@fabrilluviaofficial 10 ай бұрын
​@@nirlichtmanjust before you open a new cmd tab to mount it with docker, I open on file explorer (because I use wsl), and it says "archive", I open it, and don't have extension! if I change the extension, to img and iso, vmware says "no operative system founded", and when I change it to iso, I cant mount it!
@fabrilluviaofficial
@fabrilluviaofficial 10 ай бұрын
@@nirlichtman i get it just before of mount it with docker, I have tried to change file extension, img = doesn't work at vmware, iso = doesn't mounts, and it doesn't work at vmware
@justinnamilee
@justinnamilee Жыл бұрын
hmm... simple panic fix would be while [ 1 ]; do /bin/sh; done? xD At any rate fun stuff, I used to do LFS for fun when I was a teen, makes me miss those days.
@sarkar2320
@sarkar2320 10 ай бұрын
Hey I have a project as a part of my OS Course called "Linux Kernel Development". Can i make this as my project. Or kernel development is far more beyond what you did in the video?
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 10 ай бұрын
Depends on the project criterions, on this video I did not make any modifications in the kernel code but mostly worked with it as a whole component, I have a video about adding a simple system call to the kernel, that may be more relevant. Another option is my video about making a simple kernel module.
@getvasanth
@getvasanth Жыл бұрын
Happy to see this!!😃
@f2pgamer39
@f2pgamer39 2 ай бұрын
How do u use dwm on windows??? Really confused 🤔
@nirlichtman
@nirlichtman 2 ай бұрын
This is dwm-win32 (a port for Windows), due to bugs and stability issues, I have since decided to start writing a new twm from scratch and moved to using it instead (LightWM)
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