Making The Best Space Marines You Never Heard Of! Black Dragons

[@EonsOfBattle]

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[@threenurglingspretending]

Please paint up some quar

[@eallaterza]

I, once again, ask thee to paint Nick's Space Marines' orange colour scheme, to show him how it's done! (also because my Space Marine are orange and I need help).

[@MidwestMongrel]

So…they didn’t give you an in game rewards code for us?!? Typical GW wackiness 🤣

[@squeesmyth9025]

you should have green stuff oles for the scythes to come out of the armour so the the exit out of the armout on the arms were protected using armour some way

[@rbleisem]

Going for a Sisters Baneblade, by change? Going to need all three rhino variants, the floating preaching chair, a couple of Custodus Hoverbikes, for their eagles (headlights). And that's just the start, there, if you do it, it needs to be over the top. Including the 2018/2019, fusion reactor terrain pieces, for a engine swap, fusion power, baby!!! Even good for any bigger walker, you know, that particular fusion reactor terrain pieces, set. Stompy needs a fusion powered brother, you know. Do note that most sisters are sporting a Inquisitor I, so that already says enough about te command unit, you're going to need then. So might as well throw in a Rogue Trader kit or two, as well. The most diverse army ever. The Inquisition has arrived. lol

[@duartegomes3074]

Still waiting for my sharky bois, the Carcharodons

[@ARC212th]

🦈🦈 yess

[@richardseaton6390]

Personality in warhammer? You must be joking...you will eat your Ultramarine Intercessors and be happy.

[@adamwenner5849]

Yes yes yes

[@grahamfowler7017]

This dude did a awesome conversion and killer freehand on his shark boys, m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX69aqSea6hlfsU

[@bagel_guy9495]

"The horniest battle brothers" isnt something we hear every day

[@fenrirsrage4609]

Unless you're talking about the Emperor's Children

[@Virgil-Arcanum]

*Side eyes my heresy EC army* Yeah... never hear that.

[@xxSeanVxx]

He looked so chaos before the paint job but somehow the clean look once painted brought him back. In any case he looks amazing!

[@maximumattackrallying]

That freehand drag on the pouldron is epic. Some mad skillz on show there.

[@davidmentzer]

So was that freehand sawing of the cork. lol.

[@maximumattackrallying]

@@davidmentzer I didn't notice that 🤣 I couldn't get away with that. It would have instantly slipped into my finger/thumb/eye

[@alienatedpoet1766]

"Space marines you never heard of" Me who read Firedrake last month and reading Nocturne now: "You fool!"

[@vicdark8807]

Me who randomly read some wiki articles "That is so obviously a Black Dragon, everyone knows who those guys are"

[@alienatedpoet1766]

@@vicdark8807 Lol yup. That's how I learned about the black vipers.

[@doiroco98]

The only good thing mondays have is a new EOB video

[@efenex8303]

So true!

[@bloodfox6405]

You have helped me get past my fear of painting thanks

[@euansmith3699]

What a fantastic looking mini. The conversion work is a lot of fun, and the freehand chapter icon is amazing.

[@clood0814]

So basically the blacksheep kid to the salamanders good kid. Nice.

[@LangravioShosh]

they are still good guys tho

[@KraikLockheart]

So excited to see the rest of this series! Really loved the founding chapters and looking forward to the successors!

[@AshenXr155]

The Death of Antagonis is such a great book and the short story A tribute of flesh really drives home how cool these Sons of Vulkan are! I’m definitely going to take the paint mixture and apply it to some Jump bois! Cheers!

[@DiggerPrints0814]

Such a simple paint job that looks amazing. This would be one epic army.

[@The_Bloodied_Scribe]

Well if you’re doing the 21st cursed founding here’s a chapter I think are badass but the grey knights and inquisition are just jealous pricks. The Flame Falcons or the Phoenix Brethren a chapter of loyal marines who worship the god emperor and adhere to the codex Astartes. They have many honors but then their “flaw/buff” developed. In the heat of battle or just an especially devoted moment the marines would burst into a purifying flame, all marines even librarians and dreadnoughts would burst into flame during battle, the flame purged the hell out of chaos and didn’t harm the marines. But one day when they returned to their home world the grey knights were there and slaughtered most of the chapter before being declared renegade. About 30 scouts and marines survived with a good amount of their gene-seed. They then saved a small sector of space and called it home. The civilians and even other space marine chapters help them out because they’re so damn nice. Eventually they secretly joined in a crusade to drive back chaos but they began bursting into their holy flame once more alerting their presence to the inquisition. The sector and some chapters attempted to slow down the inquisition allowing for the Flame falcons now the phoenix brethren to escape on a battle barge gifted to them by a dark angel successor. Their whereabouts are unknown since then, but I believe there still out their kicking chaos’s ass in purifying flame and worshiping the God emperor of mankind. They’re a very badass underrated chapter of marines.

[@FierceGK1]

Adding a vote for Flesh Tearers if you would paint a buzz cut boy with anger issues for me!

[@garthantash]

The Black Dragons are blessed by the Emperor with the most blessed being the Dragon Claws. Back in 5th edition, I converted and painted about 2500pts of Black Dragons after I had about 2500pts of Minotaurs chapter. I used a lot of the dragon icons off of Dark Elf Corsairs for chapter symbols and icons on vehicles.

[@drpipper5]

i remember reading about these guys and poorly making a version of one, so glad to see you do them justice

[@agentalaskaak4955]

YES YES YES YES BLACK DRAGONS WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[@MooreGaming2013]

Awesome Miniature! Wish I could paint my minis like that.

[@oneeyedhivemind7435]

For a moment I was terrified you were going to take apart one of those beautiful Hormagaunts for its claws. Yes, please give those beautiful models some love

[@KHFanForAll]

Always love seeing your take on the space marines you don't have armies for, Mr. Jay! Every video is a fun surprise and I love rewatching them for inspiration, too! Looking forward to when your inspiration hits again with this series!

[@willmuckel9131]

I love the Black Dragons because of the conversion possibilities and the easy paint scheme. You did a great job. I’ve done several conversions in which I’ve sculpted scales and horns. It’s a lot of work. But after seeing yours I need Tyranid bits.

[@noblereflex8332]

I love the loyalist chapters who fly so close to the sun. Black Dragons, charcarodonts, white scars. Though i do also enjoy the Salamanders UMs and IFs

[@Notorious_G.O.O.S.E]

Should do a chapter called the Black Templars, not many people know about them so be cool to see you try and convert one

[@a.k3arns561]

The Carchardons or Minotaur’s would be some good chapters to see

[@TylerSantinelli]

I've started doing this for my 40k army, my primaris Luna Wolves have some great chaos-style bits, especially on my reivers squad.

[@AliG-ih8ku]

This is why deathwatch is still great fun to collect thematically as you get to paint up marines from other chapters altho only the shoulder pad & conversion stuff. RIP

[@caboose759]

I've always been a fan of the idea that you run them with space wolves rules actually. I know they're not good this edition, but I've always liked the idea that you kitbash a bunch of assault intercessors with like bone claws and their horns and whatnot then run them as wolfen. Then extra bonus points if you buy Seraphon Aggradon Lancers and use their mounts as Thunder Wolf Cavalry.

[@will-oq7cx]

maybe you can paint the angry marines next that would be interesting to see painted

[@mattbaxter688]

I remember part of a Book (no idea which one) but the black dragons liberated a world being attacked, one of the civilians saw the dragons and screamed I'm terror and ran away The one dragon says to the other laughing "she must have been expecting the ultramarines"

[@kristianhansen3404]

I just played the "Talons of the Omnisia" in Kill Team. Freaking cool kitbash and a low model count. You can really go wild. Custodes with tanktreads, stompy legs, head from a robot etc.

[@harkinsaquatics]

Since I have a Salamanders army think I need a whole squad of these. I love all the lore about them in the salamander novel series.

[@kaeptnhuck7216]

I did the opposite 😅. First a Black Dragons Force and at the Moment Salamanders.

[@molenat9973]

4:57 there was one black dragon that actually had his adamantium and wrist bone blades fuse together due to warp shenanigans and they were even more deadly than before. To the point it actually hurt him to extend them out

[@dorkra7007]

I think Custodes would work super well for some crazy conversions. While you might have to ditch some of their armor for other parts, which would lead to some weird kitbashing, I think it could be sick with an approach like how you did in this video.

[@dorkra7007]

Nvm, just watched ahead like a minute lmfao

[@Monkeybuisness12]

He looks amazing!! Maybe you could try the Celestial Lions!

[@soupcake3092]

I love conversions like this, If it didn't triple the price of a squad I would have loved to make a heavily converted army.

[@hlynurth6259]

13th company is a super fun army to mess around with if you want a kit bash & conversion army.

[@seymourbutz5353]

I have a salamanders army and do want to make a jump pack unit of these guys, so thanks for making this video!

[@dragonling748]

Black Dragons are my second favorite chapter behind my Eternal Dragons!

[@gfresh513]

You could build a Deathwatch army. Yes they are mostly black but you can convert each model with an authentic style. Great job! Keep it up!

[@user-ck6qb1qz9g]

The black dragons are quite excessively cool, and that is an awesome mini. I've always fantasized about kitbashing an eyes of the emperor custodes army, boing full Blanchian with crazy bionics and ragged cloaks. Then I realize I suck at kitbashing, and get on with my life. We need more eyes of the emperor in the world, they are the single coolest thing about the custodes yet they have zero lore and no models.

[@Immisterben]

I loved the black dragons story from the space marine successor chapter anthology. Incase you havnt read it yet, black dragons got primaris marines in it in the form of greyshield recruits.

[@davelane1773]

Pretty much all my 40k lore knowledge comes from watching your videos. Need to read me a book or two I think. Also want to say that your film work is pretty much the best I watch all day. Keep up the great work guys I’m a big fan.

[@spacerat1271]

this is really cool. I've only gotten 750 points into my black Dragons army cause of how much kitbashing I've needed to do, but this is making me want to finish off my 2k list.

[@deadknight1402]

An army that would be perfect for heavy kitbashing would be either Imperial Guard (you can literally just come up with your own regiment and then slap some bits together) or Adeptus Custodes (their armours _are_ described as all being unique, after all). If you're gonna do Sisters of Battle, maybe you could give the orders each their own distinct visual flair beyond colours. God-Emperor knows they could use a hell of a lot more variety, especially if they're gonna contend with space marines. Blood Ravens - Unknown Founding - Mostly just a DoW ask. Carcharodons (Space Sharks) - Unknown Founding - Very brutal, very scary marines who operate from above the galactic plane, only speak high gothic, and use a lot of Mk V power armour. Crimson Fists - 2nd Founding - The first chapter to ever be seen, having been on the cover art of Rogue Trader. Make sure they have a crimson power fist. Deathwatch - Ordo Xenos - You can basically use whatever chapter you want with this one. And who knows, maybe you could find a way to enjoy painting them, similar to how you did with the Genestealers. Flesh Tearers - 2nd Founding - A more vicious form of the Blood Angels chapter (they actually take pride in the Red Thirst, and are quite a lot more prone to the Black Rage than their progenitors). Plenty of opportunities for chain weapons. Also, Gabriel Seth's take on the Primaris Marines is based. Grey Knights - Ordo Malleus - Can you do this without any of the special parts? Or will you cave? Iron Snakes - 2nd Founding - Out of all art of space marines, one of my favourite will always be that one Marine with the respirator with a grill like that of a snarling beast, and the giant, thick, slab-like pauldrons. It's such an evocative image. Lamenters - 21st (Cursed) Founding - The checkered pattern on the pauldrons will give you a good challenge. Plus, we gotta love these boys. Mantis Warriors - Possible 8th Founding - The Mantis Warriors fought during the Badab War on the side of the Astral Claws, but eventually defected to the side of the Loyalists. However, because of their initial allegiance to the Astral Claws during the war, they've lost their homeworld which was given to the Charcharodons, and went on a penitent crusade. They are at incredibly low numbers by this point. Minotaurs - 21st (Cursed) Founding - The unofficial attack dogs of the High Lords of Terra. You can go as OP with the model as you want. Rainbow Warriors - Unknown Founding - In the official lore, there's next to no information about them (though they do have rainbow-coloured plasma weapons according to a Trazyn novel), but there is someone who decided to do their own version of the Rainbow Warriors as an Aztec-themed chapter. Good luck on the fine rainbow stripes. Storm Giants - Unknown Founding (possibly during the 36th Millennium, so between 15th through 21st foundings, maybe older) - These Salamanders successors are described as being even larger and stronger than the marines of other chapters. I wanna see how you can do with kitbashing the size of your marines. Storm Wardens - Unknown Founding - Mostly because I love the idea of Scottish Space Marines. You could also try branching into more Chaos Space Marines, and for that... Alpha Legion - M31 - They're great because you get to do a lot of scaled designs, and you even get a complementary Alpharius model in each kit. Black Legion - M31 - Consisting of not just the XVI Legion the Sons of Horus, but of any Chaos Marines who wish to fight their Long War under the command of Abaddon the Despoiler. One of the generic "Chaos Space Marine" factions, essentially the Ultramarines of Chaos. If any loyalist chapter were to see themselves as rivals of the Black Legion, it would have to be the Blood Angels, since Horus was the one who killed Sanguinius. Emperor's Children - M31 - They have by-far the most eclectic and over-the-top design elements of all the Chaos Marine legions. Me personally, I prefer their pre-heresy look, but their post-heresy look should at least be a lot of fun to make. The Iron Hands fucking hate the EC because Fulgrim (the Emperor's Children's Primarch) killed Ferrus Manus (the Iron Hands' Primarch). Iron Warriors - M31 - The use of lots of cybernetics, basic raw-iron armour, hazard stripes, and their no-nonsense design philosophy. They hate Chaos, actually, and they'll lop off anything that gets mutated and insist on only using machinery and technology, though they're more than happy to use a daemon as a battery. They also don't like working with any other legions. Rivals of the Imperial Fists due to some preexisting bad-blood between their respective primarchs. Night Lords - M31 - Forced to survive in a piratical fashion, the Night Lords have strong serial-killer vibes, especially since they're not really fighters so much as predators and killers (by space marine standards at least). The black-blue armour and the lightning bolts should add some visual interest. They are rivals of the Salamanders because even before the Heresy they were skinning civilians alive and wearing their faces. Red Corsairs - M41 - Originally the Astral Claws chapter, the Red Corsairs are the largest new legion of Chaos to form since the Horus Heresy, having fallen to chaos during the Badab War, which was the main war that everyone cared about during Rogue Trader. They're more attractive a prospect for joining from marines not descended from the original 9 Traitour legions due to their young age, and the broad elitism of the older legions. They also have been known to utilize xenos crewmen as well. Thousand Sons - M30 - The cobalt-blue Egyptian psyker legion with heavy amounts of gold trim and yellow colours. When painted up, these guys are straight dripping. Rivals of the Space Wolves after what they'd done on Prospero. Word Bearers - M31 - Lots of daemons and religious cultish texts and motifs. Their primarch actually wrote the holy scripture that the Adeptus Ministorum/Ecclesiarchy uses to this day worshipping the God-Emperor, and was also the first primarch to fall to Chaos. They have a rivalry with the Ultramarines after the Emperor had the latter burn down the Word Bearer's most prosperous city on their homeworld pre-heresy. World Eaters - M31 - The most vicious and brutal of the Chaos legions, the World Eaters are all in on chain weapons and melee. They don't really have any specific rivalries with anyone, as they just fight and attack everyone, even each other.

[@drigoleus1055]

It be awesome to see the old school nids I just saw the old metal broodlord whos killing a termie, it was a great scenic pose

[@SciFiPorkChop28]

Nice! The only thing I'd want to do differently is trying to make the bone protrusions look like a tech marine or artificer was involved... sort of making little seals on the armor where the spikes leave the wrists/forearms and head... I think that's a subtle way to separate a "chaos" marine where the spikes are just unorganized growths or mutations that sprout wildly from them or where their armor has fused to them versus something less hertical like the Black Dragons where they might build vents and supports in their armor to help the growths be displayed for battle if that makes sense. But yeah, really nice colors and Black Dragons are a fun chapter!

[@Rook986]

Glad you did the bone spikes in a reddish color, as most people don't realize that living bones are pink

[@JakobDrawitsch]

The holster and pouches keeping the marines from being Chaos screams for the Spongebob-Sea Bear meme lol

[@richardrussell7082]

The dragon on the shoulder pad reminds me of Nemesis the Warlock ☺

[@tmarcb1296]

I love this video, I was so close to doing black dragons instead of the legion of the damned

[@AzraelThanatos]

If I remember right, most of the people playing Black Dragons when I was more into things used some of, I think, the Dark Elf transfers from Fantasy for their emblem.

[@aownbey609]

My friend had the chaos dragon bits and I play Salamanders, he kit bashed my bike captain and put the dragon heads as bike bolter replacements amongst other things

[@catcadev]

My friend has five of these. These guys are such cool fellows and I wish there were some official conversions!

[@Scotch5ailor]

That dragon freehand, good on ya!!

[@Albinospenguin]

Thats a fun coincidence because i started converting a black dragon kt this week end

[@stephenrego6065]

Black dragons are awesome and unique! Would love to see what you would do with an army of them

[@LeoFletcher-s8m]

Oh I love the black dragons I also love salamanders so learning about sucseser chapters to them and found more then 5

[@5thterrax]

I have run a black dragons army since 8th ed and i looove them. They do not get any love in the community so its great to see you featuring them in your content. Cheers

[@felragon9459]

Looks good. Would love to see you paint Howling Griffons. Not as much physical conversion but seeing you do the quartered color scheme would be fun. Generally, any of the crazy 80's paint schemes would be fun.

[@gamer-jy6fn]

They are the best boys. The book they're in is the first Warhammer book I've read

[@GarethDragon]

One of my absolute favourite chapters!

[@meanestgreen3320]

It is only rumored they are salamander gene seed; however, I have a rebuddle. In the Sal omnibus, the Sal rescue a black dragon marine and incorporated him into their chapter, BUT it never makes any statements of his melechrome implant turning his skin dark. Now I draw your attention to the book Raptors. In the book corvus creates new space marines but they are tampered with and they wildly mutate. The first generation of mutated raptors grew ( you guessed it) boney protruding blades and spikes. Add in the fact black dragon look and act all goth AND like jump packs. I'd wager they are an accidental recreation of that first Gen of raptor marines, thus making them ravengaurd successors!

[@enzolipparini8547]

It's a nice conversion for a intercessors kill team !

[@quintu5]

Charnel Guard or Flesh Tearers would be a welcome task!

[@BLSR303]

I found my first space marine army which was a black dragon army. At the time I used the old dark eldar spiky bits and the newly released tyranids plastic armour plates. So many tyranid upgrade armour spruce I had to order to make it happen. I miss ordering individual parts or spruces for making conversions.

[@exhotheperson6333]

I just painted up a phobos kill team for these dudes, even gave them some sharp bones, they need more books

[@joelparslow5807]

That metallic black is beautiful

[@TheIWNH]

Black Dragons are my favorite so I can't wait to see this!

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

Black Dragons are so underrated. They are true sons of Vulkan.

[@chrisjulien7698]

Christ bless you, the free hand was quite impressive

[@henrytrimble4929]

I think you’d have tons of fun with word bearers! They’re totally templar adjacent and I personally think they’re tons of fun to kitbash

[@HarryTheArchaeologist]

Really glad that this series is continuing!

[@marcopritoni7182]

The hand painted dragon is great

[@jayvin439]

Yes please 2nd edition models starting on the tyranids please

[@Curtis_Plays_yt]

I bought a horus heresy box and converted everything with a bunch of 40k bits and resin jumpacks cloaks etc to make space wolves for 40k headcannon is that they were fighting some chaos and got sucked into the warp and spit back out in 40k where they worked with space wolves to upgrade armour.

[@porcu12345]

But where are the Crimson Fists ✊

[@sjaakninaber4989]

You beat me to it, really need some Crimson fists

[@The_Kreig_Commissar]

@@sjaakninaber4989 yeah there ultramarines but cooler

[@GardenOfWar]

@@The_Kreig_Commissar they’re the better blue berries

[@gurpie]

Every time Jay paints another marine chapter we ask this question and wait :)

[@Depressed0wL]

I just finished the book about these guys and was thinking they would be awesome on the tabletop. Great video as always!

[@lumichst4889]

I would love to see them as an army! I m a big fan of black dragon but I'd don't have the mean to do it myself x)

[@monkey5266]

This is probably my favorite space marine you have painted so far.

[@Vohtwomax]

Speaking of Sisters, I have a couple ideas floating around my head that might help spark something for you. One idea is to imagine that they might be stationed on the same planet as a space marine chapter, taking visual cues and stylings from said chapter. I.e., space wolf sisters. The other idea i have is to one day to a HUGE battle force consisting of 5 separate armies. Iron Warriors, Dark Mech, traitor guard, chaos knights, and corrupted sisters. I think a chaos themed sisters army has a TON of potential

[@pikmyman]

these have such cool lore. I love the horns.

[@EdgarClay]

7:40 clean smooth dark.

[@SuperBatfreak]

Just bought a Hive tyrant, first time trying to use magnets, and watching this while doing it hehe

[@roman-hk1mf]

Not gonna lie: I had the same idea with the chaos exhausts and was like: me, another day, another project, but not today. 😂

[@CulturalAnthropololologist]

I was hoping for Black Dragons as soon as this series started, mainly because I forgot their name 22 years ago.

[@nikotillmann9764]

Nice video, I always liked the black dragons. Next I would like to see the fanciest marines there are: the Celebrants chapter. The only official colour scheme with a colour transition across the armour.

[@GEORGEMEISTERFTW]

Well this just made my day a whole lot better

[@maxspooky8991]

A converted chaos custodes army would be so cool

[@TTTadej]

O wow, the title was not wrong. First time seeing this chapter, amazing mini :) Do Howling Griffons next, really want to see you paint that color scheme.

[@noobflyboyx3301]

Since we're doing other founding, I will again suggest the Dark Krakens. They should be fun, and we don't get purple very often.

[@jonnysnaphappy]

You KNOW we want to see those retro bugs come out to play!

[@Jan_Iedema]

Those freehands look amazing!

[@FranktheBlindArtist]

Great job with that freehand symbol

[@doomedstruggler]

Tacticus is so much fun. I've been addicted for months

[@X65X]

Hidden wood mannequin hand in the background, in it's appropriate finger position as always!

[@PearlJam2k6]

I think the reason a lot of us Chaos players didnt use those dragon heads are two-fold, firstly the "flat" back of the head is NEVER actually flat so it needs to be sanded down everytime and secondly the mouths arent hollowed out so they look really bad on weapons as well unless you painstakingly drill out the mouth from the back of the head .

[@musicalDrebin]

Ah the black dragons. the horniest space marines!

[@sternencolonel7328]

Nice, I personally would had add claws also to the other foot

[@zephyrftw6256]

You should do Deathwatch next! They would be fun to kitbash something unique for