Absolutely love the culinary expertise applied here, the sandwich looks AMAZING. However it feels a but unfair to compare the two when they are mass producing to feed hundreds on a daily basis, and you are perfecting the art to make that one (or half dozen) sandwiches to perfection
@machinegun203 күн бұрын
Agreed, it's a great sandwich. The difference lies in production, which both gentlemen mention frequently when discussing more 'demanding' recipes. As a one-time cook or someone preparing food at home with the right skills, you're almost always going to outperform a restaurant. The gap is even wider for large chains. Take Katz's in New York, for example: it's both loved and hated. They charge $35 for a pastrami sandwich and manage it as a production line-that's impressive as hell.
@andersjjensen3 күн бұрын
I think the goal of these videos are two fold: 2) Teaching home cooking enthusiasts neat tricks and tips, and 2) Making damn delicious food doesn't require absurdly the most expensive of everything, and it doesn't have to be hella posh. I don't think they are, in the slightest, trying to dunk on places that have to balance mass-producibility against quality against price against convenience. That is a much harder calculus than going "Screw price, and let people wait 30 minutes for their food. Only taste matters!".
@machinegun203 күн бұрын
@@andersjjensen Right on the spot!
@jsmrt68752 күн бұрын
I don’t disagree with you, but as someone that cooks the same thing everyday I’m going to find ways to improve and even simplify the process, always aiming to improve and evolve the product. Sometimes it looks like the professional chef has something up on the regular cook, but I promise you it’s all attitude and drive!
@OinkFanMayne2 күн бұрын
they said it themselves, its just a cheffy bagel
@hairychris4442 күн бұрын
Used to live 5 mins away from Brick Lane in the mid 00s. Being able to go out 24hrs a day & pick up a dozen fresh bagels was the best!
@08mlascelles3 күн бұрын
Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure this is better than Beigel Bake, but the fact that they can serve what they do, 24 hours a day, is genuinely phenomenal! It would cost a fortune in most London spots, but they only charge £6.20!
@WhatALoadOfTosca3 күн бұрын
Everyone who is a chef with a youtube channel thinks they can do better than tried and tested professionals #artisans
@wapniak6663 күн бұрын
@@WhatALoadOfTosca last time i checked this channel is run by actual tried and tested professionals
@dhekwucieoejduf3 күн бұрын
Nitrate salts are so dangerous and bad for your body. I wish they didnt use it.
@math69113 күн бұрын
Think its a bit like a but better that joshua weissman does i dont think they are sitting there saying the food served at beigal bake is bad just they can make it better
@user-xk5fs1zu3m3 күн бұрын
@@dhekwucieoejduf i hope you never eat any type of cured meat then
@StrobeFireStudios2 күн бұрын
I actually made the trailer for a film called "Salt, Beef and Rye" back in 2016. This video was a refreshing review of a wonderful sandwich that's stood the test of time. Thank you Fallow and team!
@confessionsofazoologist67183 күн бұрын
"not sure if this is traditional but it's quite fun" are words to live by
@Listenemm18 сағат бұрын
@@confessionsofazoologist6718 Checkout: What in woods? You won’t regret😊
@tchoo182 күн бұрын
Excellent video! in Singapore we have hawkers who have perfected one dish over decades that many top chefs don't even bother to try to replicate. This is a great effort. Fallow is on my to-eat list when I next visit UK, great channel!
@nca47942 күн бұрын
I hope you'll report back how you enjoyed it.
@aaron8989Күн бұрын
This looks incredible. Any chance you could give us the recipe for your pickles?
@gman96963 күн бұрын
Nice idea, wouldn't mind seeing this for other popular foods found in London.
@burdyo852 күн бұрын
Beenz
@bensmith75363 күн бұрын
Aaaaand thats a beautiful sunny day there in London again I see.
@nick2606823 күн бұрын
It’s January, what do you expect? 😂
@elio76102 күн бұрын
@@nick260682 KZbinrs often record videos in advance, sometimes months before publishing. It could be any time of year.
@Dinyo55Күн бұрын
😂. I feel you. The weather in England is terrible
@acooknamedMatt3 күн бұрын
Reckon I’ll visit across the pond
@mre16463 күн бұрын
Bring soup 😊
@thesupremekai1980s3 күн бұрын
@@mre1646 We have soup in the UK... I grew up on it...
@beansdestroyer2 күн бұрын
visited last year, went a few times late night because everything was closed and it was delish
@BezTheChef3 күн бұрын
I'm a huge fan from Eindhoven. You’ve shown me so many great tips! Thanks for sharing this recipe. I can’t wait to try it when I’m back in my kitchen. Much appreciated!
@daltonbrowne7980Күн бұрын
Went to Bagel Bake when I visited London in 2019. It was so good I went back two days later and bought three salt beef beigels for my train and ferry trip up to Dublin.
@PretzelGuy52803 күн бұрын
I loved Beigel Bake! I went multiple times when I was in London back in April!
@michaelh77413 күн бұрын
The bagel house on stoke Newington high street does better salt beef bagels
@Bootmahoy883 күн бұрын
I'm a super fan from the Bronx. You guys have taught me quite a lot. Thanks for this recipe. I'm gonna do it when I get back home. Cheers.
@sjanex3 күн бұрын
But..but Americans said our food is bland and terrible 😂
@eadweard.2 күн бұрын
You have Katz's nearby :)
@justgame55082 күн бұрын
Katz is overrated. A sandwich is only as good as it’s bread and the rye they serve the sandwiches on at Katz is awful, super dry and stale. It’s over priced and the staff are unnecessarily rude
@lennybob2602Күн бұрын
@@sjanex This does look kinda shit compared to American versions
@bagpusscat78393 күн бұрын
We run a cattery in Shropshire, no way could we afford to eat at Fallow, but my god, you guys ROCK. I love your uploads, thank you xx
@UnderAGlassMetropolis3 күн бұрын
Aww, I love my cats 🐈 😻
@rexmundi18122 күн бұрын
If I win the lottery tonight I will take you all.
@Justin-e4c2 күн бұрын
Witaf is a cattery. Never have I heard the term.
@barrymore872 күн бұрын
You could. Rather than eating in 10 rubbish places throughout the year. Just go to one good place.
@gotmunchiez2 күн бұрын
@@barrymore87Yeah it's not so expensive that normal people can't eat there. Two people can have a three course meal there for roughly 2 hundred quid depending on what you have. Obviously it's not an everyday thing for most people but it's easily doable as a twat. We paid nearly that for a three course meal at Rick Steins over a decade ago and the quality of his place isn't even in the same league as Fallow.
@ADDC-r4u2 күн бұрын
Full English mustard mixed with Mayonnaise is very nice you can alter the ratio to fit your taste, actually very nice on a toastie spread on the outside and caramelised
@1101603 күн бұрын
Ate at fallow last week while visiting from SF, it was absolutely amazing, my favorite was the Mushroom Parfait and the Steak and the Burger all amazing. Also the Cheese Tart was inspiring.
@andersjjensen3 күн бұрын
I haven't been there yet, but it's on my bucket list for next visit to London. I think my only problem will be that I don't have 5 stomachs....
@1101603 күн бұрын
@ go with 5 friends, easy solution!
@InsanityGingerLoL3 күн бұрын
All great choices there, mushroom parfait is a must have, very rare I have a veggie dish on my must haves at a restaurant !
@KIJIKLIPS3 күн бұрын
Sf?
@goatitisful3 күн бұрын
What's SF?
@teadrinkinglegninja15203 күн бұрын
Used to work at a bar round the corner from Beigel Bake - after close, two staff would head round and get team bagels. One to BB and one to Beigel Shop a couple of doors down (slightly different offerings). I always used to get salt beef, pickles and mustard from Beigel Bake then put a slice of cheddar on mine and blowtorch it. So good.
@baerlauchstal3 күн бұрын
Though of course instantly not kosher... ;-)
@sntslilhlpr66013 күн бұрын
I was just thinking it'd be good with some melty cheddar. Maybe even some hollandaise? Or is that blasphemy?
@baerlauchstal3 күн бұрын
@@sntslilhlpr6601 Or, like, Emmentaler and Russian dressing, with Sauerkraut? I mean, I don't *really* care whether it's kosher...
@itsdan7223 күн бұрын
Man i love this channel, its taught me so much about processes and the multiple different methods to make my cooking have that extra quality
@andersjjensen3 күн бұрын
For "ultra messy, sloppy, gooey" bagels (or other warm sandwiches) I mix honey 1:5 with water and brush the cut surface before giving them a blitz in a hot oven. This makes the toast surface almost water proof. It's a balance between tasting burned and avoiding soggy bread, so a bit of trial an error is required. But once you get it right you can put pulled pork drowned in gravy in a sandwich and still have it hold up during eating.
@tomsite2901uk2 күн бұрын
I worked on Brick Lane for over 3 years and these bagels are from heaven. I probably tried each and every one and never I had to say nawww that is crap.
@Drums8183 күн бұрын
Reckon it'll contain sriracha
@Joe_1sr93 күн бұрын
Is that the same as Corrianda. ?
@carpediem52323 күн бұрын
It doesn't
@jameswrp3 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@oscarabrownfx3 күн бұрын
Because it is literally the best condiment on the universe
@bubblehulk76473 күн бұрын
And butter. Now I’m going to watch to find out! lol
@StrobeFireStudios2 күн бұрын
"how much mustard for you, chef?" "Plenty mate" Good answer chef
@nw80542 күн бұрын
These guys are pure Inspiration. Greetings from germany. Safe Money for a visit
@vanessas2363Күн бұрын
Good job! Looks delicious 😊 Thanks
@YodlingZeek3 күн бұрын
Literally just spent an hour searching for any decent bagel places here in Paris the other day because I'm craving a Beigel Bake salt beef with mustard. Jesus, next trip back to London it's my first stop off
@DavidWicks10002 күн бұрын
Recently discovered your channel, absolutely love the content
@mrb70942 күн бұрын
I stay a night or two in London all the time, almost every week. I stay in Shoreditch. There's always good stuff to eat round there, even in the Rainbow Sports Bar 😆 I actually walked along Brick Lane looking for my dinner only a few weeks ago. I never spotted Beigel Bake, but it's now officially top of my list. Hope they don't sell out by the time I get there!
@LewisTheFly888Күн бұрын
Another comment suggested that they are 24/7 so you should be OK
@ADDC-r4u2 күн бұрын
Very nice guys !! That looks delicious
@emerjay348Күн бұрын
You guys are so good, watching you is a pleasure, the skills, the proffesionalism, I hope you get paid well as you definetly should
@TankUSA3 күн бұрын
I’ve sent so many Americans to this exact spot when they tell me they are visiting London. Absolute gem!
@floatingpeaks45842 күн бұрын
They must have been so disspointed
@Overworkt2 күн бұрын
@@floatingpeaks4584weird thing to say.
@rexhua483321 сағат бұрын
Nice. Thank you.
@HUSKSUPPE3 күн бұрын
could not agree more with that last statement 🙌
@jackblundell57963 күн бұрын
i'm moving to london this year and cannot wait to visit!
@ray_b19933 күн бұрын
Love this, thanks for sharing. Your version looks fantastic. I'd just watched a vlog on Katz's Deli in NYC too!
@charlieweeberry3 күн бұрын
I'm finally going to London at the end of the month, so thanks for continuing to give some seriously good tips on what to do and and experience in the city when it comes to food aside from visiting Fallow of course (got reservations for first night).
@beansdestroyer2 күн бұрын
there are some great curry places on brick lane where this is filmed too
@charlieweeberry2 күн бұрын
@beansdestroyer good to know, thank you!
@GizaDog3 күн бұрын
You go so fast. I got hooked on making the bagels!
@JonbombsКүн бұрын
Mac DeMarco turned me onto this place when he shouted them out at a Brixton gig. Good times
@dixonpinfold25823 күн бұрын
When your diner is spouting praise while his mouth is still full, you've done well. (Btw, those bagels wanted poppyseeds, but let that pass.)
@exhebece54802 күн бұрын
St-Viateur Bagels has a different technique for shaping the bagels you might find interesting if you plan to do in bulk. Thanks for sharing your expertise
@SteAnderson3 күн бұрын
I like that not traditional but quite fun way of putting the hole in the middle of the bagel. I’m a chef, the others are gonna come in and ask why I’ve made 193375 bagels 😆
@radusguru21963 күн бұрын
Looks amazing. I’m going to try this for sure
@Overworkt2 күн бұрын
Awesoem work. I cooked a salt beef over christmas - bloody love the stuff, but I know that pink salt is no good for us in the long run.
@Naamtok3 күн бұрын
Looks incredible guys
@DeadlyShot30316 сағат бұрын
Do you guys ever plan on creating a recipe book? I know there’s recipes online just curious
@AmicaMea9083 күн бұрын
Well played lads!
@chrisroberts61213 күн бұрын
LOVE YOU GUYS
@chrislrob3 күн бұрын
I'll be in London in February and Fallow and Beigel Bake are in the Top Three Restaurants I'll visit! Beigel Bake is about a fifteen minute walk from my hotel!
@TraceyOfficial3 күн бұрын
You don't know me but I love you, Chef Jack 🎉
@davidharap82773 күн бұрын
As a native New Yorker, the bagel you made looks amazing and absolutely legit! Will those bagel sandwiches make it onto your breakfast menu?
@geovani2133 күн бұрын
Keep up the good work chef! Thank you!
@PaulShafer-s6m2 күн бұрын
you gents are world class, but its already a perfect sandwich
@machinegun203 күн бұрын
Looks great! Thank you for bringing us the perspective of British chefs working in London who have received European culinary education. Great work, gentlemen! I look forward to visiting one of your restaurants soon, from across the pond in Amsterdam.
@wallyzworld663 күн бұрын
Is salt beef the same/ similar to corned beef? Appears so. Excellent take on this!
@dixonpinfold25823 күн бұрын
Yes!
@ElvenSpellmaker3 күн бұрын
Corned beef in the UK is minced and canned salt beef, slightly different product for us.
@dixonpinfold25823 күн бұрын
@@ElvenSpellmaker The point is that the thing depicted here is named "corned beef" across the pond.
@Gloryisjames2 күн бұрын
"One hundred and twenty dedees" really got me for some reason 😂
@WhisperingReunion3 күн бұрын
Any chance you'll share the recipe? Also should you smoke it at all.. or is that what puts it on its journey to pastrami?
@brianmahoney19503 күн бұрын
If you ever get the chance to visit Montreal you should try Schwartz’s Deli’s Montreal smoked meat sandwich. A cousin of this bagel, and so delicious! While you’re in Montreal, try the bagels at St. Viateur bakery!!
@gnomevoyeur3 күн бұрын
Here in Australia, corned beef is typically made from silverside (We use the same term for the good stuff and the stuff in a can, much like chips and chips). I've read it is also typical in Ireland. Does anyone have any comment on the difference between corned silverside and corned brisket?
@padders10683 күн бұрын
Yes Chef! Looks amazing 😋 I can't comment on which is better because I haven't tasted either. Is this going to be another menu item on your new fast gourmet food takeaway restaurant chain? 🙂🙂 Sorry comment is a bit out of sync as I've just edited my comment on your fast food chicken burger, suggesting the idea, plus your Perfect Fried Chicken from 11 months ago, and obviously your triple fried chips 🙂
@thenext95373 күн бұрын
At first I was like It's Katz pastrami in NY. I'd want to try this 'salted beef' which I've never heard of before.
@selfintuition23 күн бұрын
Please include the measurements in the description. Looks amazing!
@nawelum3 күн бұрын
Would cooking the beef in a slow cooker have the same result?
@jackcorscadden64902 күн бұрын
Would making salt beef be possible using the rolled brisket available in supermarkets? It's typically £80 or more to get a proper packer brisket in the UK and I'd love to give this a go using cheaper meat at least for the first time
@bryanmoraski70053 күн бұрын
7 Days ? ! Good God. That's gotta be incredible.
@identifying.as.asovereignhuman3 күн бұрын
I've never taken a week to make a sandwich... if I could buy one from these guys, I would though!
@bryanmoraski70052 күн бұрын
@@identifying.as.asovereignhuman lol
@novichok72133 күн бұрын
Sailing perilously close to the wind.... some things don't need improving
@ArielK19873 күн бұрын
My easy going sandwich is. 100% whole wheat bread with Mayonnaise, Swiss Cheese and Montreal Smoked deli meat.
@lilomann15233 күн бұрын
It took me along time to figure out that bagels needed to rise before proofing in the fridge. Had the wonkiest, densest bagels ever (bloody tasty though).
@madman4077082 күн бұрын
7:53 "Chef your milkies, CHEF MILKIES" Bravo lads that it's so raven'd me back onto the line 🙏
@JohnagsmithSmith3 күн бұрын
Can you guys post the recipie with weights and measures etc please 🙏
@meat_loves_wasabi3 күн бұрын
Wish St John will bring back their Bacon Sandwich....such a good breakfast option
@hanba-t3f3 күн бұрын
Coming up to a mil subs guys, been here since before 50k 🎉
@FallowLondon2 күн бұрын
Legend! Thanks mate. Chef will
@Thrillhouse893 күн бұрын
That looks bloody lovely that, I reckon a thin layer or 2 of emmental cheese on top could be a great little addition. I absolutely love cooking, would love to be a chef like these guys and I've funnily enough had about 3 dreams now where I've worked at the Fallow with these 2 in them, 2 were awful nightmares, 1 was amazing. Keep up the great work guys
@user-vo6zk9iw2i2 күн бұрын
Rare to find salt beef sandwiches in central London. I have no idea why.
@johnmcdowall3709Күн бұрын
Borough Market
@drisraptor29923 күн бұрын
I feel like the biggest idiot for waiting until my Brine cooled instead of just leaving half the water out cold lol
@eatmoremusic36503 күн бұрын
I use half ice to make it cool even quicker
@TheSwitchUK3 күн бұрын
We've all been there mate. Good news is that you only do it once
@aayishapeters3 күн бұрын
It was all null and void from the second brodie came in, picked up a pickle, didn’t eat it, licked his fingers and wiped them in his apron. Safe.
@ch420newsteam3 күн бұрын
Cured Navel Beef is a standard Newfoundland Christmas meat. :~)
@cato4513 күн бұрын
In the United States, we call this corned beef. It’s delicious. Nicely done, sir.
@BobaPhettamine3 күн бұрын
its called corned beef everywhere in the world including England lol dont know why he's calling it salt beef when it has spices in it
@ianm21703 күн бұрын
@@BobaPhettamine They call it salt beef because that's what it's called in the joint they are emulating.
@ElvenSpellmaker3 күн бұрын
This is why: _"In the UK, "corned beef" refers to minced and canned salt beef. Unminced corned beef is referred to as salt beef."_
@BobaPhettamine2 күн бұрын
@@ElvenSpellmaker corned beef has existed in the UK since the 1700's mate it was only during ww2 it got mashed up and made into a can who do you think created corned beef for your country to make it lol.. irish travellers
@ElvenSpellmaker2 күн бұрын
@BobaPhettamine Yeah I'm just explaining what word is used for what. Not where they came from. Unminced it's known as Salt Beef.
@Indureiner3 күн бұрын
Do you syncronize those watches 😀
@LBStirlo3 күн бұрын
Are you selling them at fallow??
@maclauk3 күн бұрын
We could do with some relative quantities on the bagel dough. What's your %age water to flour? It looks quite a stiff dough so I'm guessing down towards 60%. Ditto the concentration of the bagel boiling liquid. How much bicarbonate to water? The cooking times and temps were the only points you gave specific information.
@Rangefindergeneral3 күн бұрын
if only Bagel Bake toasted theirs, I've been eating their bagels for 40+ years and although I've had better bagels theirs is the one I crave every time.
@Thebearmre73 күн бұрын
It would not work with That amount meat you need them to fresh and soft, don’t get me wrong at home I toast my bagels but those there are thinker and doeyer Jewish style not American kind. Sorry
@Rangefindergeneral2 күн бұрын
@@Thebearmre7 Oh i was thinking of just the bagels with a schmear personally at the bagel bake I have my salt beef on rye. yes the bagels salt beef would not need to be toasted.
@TranquilAndSmooth2 күн бұрын
When making beigels you need to make the hole in the middle wider than you did in this video...because it expands on the second prove and also expands more when you cook them so yh..if you want a propoer looking beigel make the hole wider, Im sure it tasted delicious though of course
@madst75213 күн бұрын
Not a huge fan of corned beef, but the spicing here might help. Can't help thinking it'd work quite well using sous vide instead of the steam oven,
@kenrehill87752 күн бұрын
Beigel bakery every Sunday morning when I was little, also the one in Gants Hill
@neil47673 күн бұрын
Hmn. I've just started learning to smoke the full brisket, was that the flat? I've been doing 6 kg brisket and trimming off about a kg to use for sausage and to try and even cook it with the fat cap. Would that benefit from a smoke too or is it going to be too much after a 7 day brine?
@jacobfreeman74273 күн бұрын
British brisket is just the flat for Americans i think and our beef is leaner generally so adjust accordingly
@neil47673 күн бұрын
@@jacobfreeman7427 ah yeah I've been buying the xm gold brisket from john davidson, so it's the whole brisket including the fat cap, just wondering if I can brine that long with a trimmed down fat cap on that piece of meat. At that cost, I don't want to ruin more than one of them finding out :-) It is Grass fed based on the description so it will be leaner, just wondering if that fat will survive a decent brine I guess
@callum396453 күн бұрын
It would benefit from smoke. But by smoking it then becomes pastrami.
@_SpaceDad3 күн бұрын
You guys are killing me
@ApplyWithCaution3 күн бұрын
... it's called London's best sandwich for a reason ...
@jellyphase3 күн бұрын
Can u guys do your pickle recipe?
@hkbabel3 күн бұрын
Is salt beef equivalant to what I know as corned beef in the States?
@Marsbar20243 күн бұрын
We (UK) call this corned beef as well.
@hkbabel3 күн бұрын
@@Marsbar2024 Thank you!
@Thebearmre73 күн бұрын
@@Marsbar2024no we don’t corned beef is something diff in uk it’s tinned full of fat stuff that came from the war. Salt beef is diff and in USA they call it corned beef
@Marsbar20243 күн бұрын
@Thebearmre7 canned corned beef was known as bully beef, but then branded as corned beef.
@jackdavis87863 күн бұрын
Sorry bit random but What type of chopping board is that your using? Thanks
@JasonNguyen-l6g2 күн бұрын
Can you make a crispy/fried deviled egg video
@margotmcpherson59672 күн бұрын
Montreal bagels are actually the best!!!
@Marsbar20243 күн бұрын
What salt brine solution did you use? 3%?
@RoyNatianКүн бұрын
You're right, poking a hole in the dough ball isn't traditional. I know I'm being pedantic, but that is not a bagel. That's a bun with a hole poked through. You need to take a small log of dough, overlap the ends together, and roll to attach to make the bagel shape. This affects the final structure of the bagel.
@ianwhite90452 күн бұрын
This is far too Chefy.The Beigel Bake salt beef bagel is so simple and tastes delicious,that’s the beauty of it.
@dollarbaba24718 сағат бұрын
I believe the hole was to stack them in wooden sticks/rods while selling them in the streets
@engineerncook61382 күн бұрын
Sweet {bread and butter} pickles or sour dills? Not flying to London from San Francisco to answer this question.
@protopigeon3 күн бұрын
Just needs sauerkraut and cheese! Looks great regardless
@rbejva3 күн бұрын
If you like this, sounds like you should come to Montréal for Bagels and smoked meat…
@spudroots67863 күн бұрын
I'm all for using a stand mixer to make bread as I've got one at home so ideally would use it for making any type of bread, but I've watched at least 2 vids on KZbin (brian lagerstrom and someone else's) that tell me using a stand mixer for Bagels is pointless because the mix is too dry and it can damage the motor on a KitchenAid. But my man here is using one and saying it's easier. Who's right? I want to try making bagels but put off by having to knead em by hand when i got a KitchenAid