Malakai Black Details 'Disturbing' Childhood, Samoa Joe & William Regal in AEW, Triple H's NXT, HOOK

Malakai Black interview. The AEW star, also known as Tommy End and Aleister Black, speaks with CBS Sports' Shakiel Mahjouri. Black opens up about how his childhood influence the occult elements of his character, the end of Triple H's NXT, Samoa Joe and William Regal in AEW, and more.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Teaser
0:14 - Intro
0:47 - Ranking pro-wrestling's greatest spitters
4:00 - Body language, HOOK and Dante Martin
7:41 - Most challenging parts of portraying Malakai Black
11:16 - "Disturbing" childhood and occult elements
18:34 - Triple H era of NXT
23:23 - William Regal and Samoa Joe in AEW
24:45 - Favorite K-1 and MMA fights
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[@ShakWrestling]

Who do you want to join the House of Black? If you want to support what I do, please consider subscribing: bit.ly/3D05diq Timestamps: 0:00 - Teaser 0:14 - Intro 0:47 - Ranking pro-wrestling's greatest spitters 4:00 - Body language, HOOK and Dante Martin 7:41 - Most challenging parts of portraying Malakai Black 11:16 - "Disturbing" childhood and occult elements 18:34 - Triple H era of NXT 23:23 - William Regal and Samoa Joe in AEW 24:45 - Favorite K-1 and MMA fights

[@alonsoguttierrez4455]

Great interview !

[@ShakWrestling]

@@alonsoguttierrez4455 thank you!

[@k999999]

I think I already know who will be the next 2 members joining the House of Black 1. PAC 2. Julia Hart :D

[@ShakWrestling]

@@k999999 PAC would be a very interesting choice and would love to see what else Julia Hart can do

[@markminadeo]

Windham, Titan and Eric Red Beard

[@librarianontheloose]

He's very well spoken and I've loved how thought through his whole Malakai character is. Very clever, artistic guy.

[@ShakWrestling]

Absolutely. He's thought every part of it through

[@BrandonH58]

He seems like a tremendous interview. Very detailed and tried to answer everything.

[@ShakWrestling]

@@BrandonH58 Really went above and beyond

[@BrandonH58]

@@ShakWrestling if this was you interviewing I really respect you gave him an out (multiple times at that). It feels grimey when interviewers want a soundbite that could potentially harm the subjects life. You handled that really respectfully.

[@ShakMMA]

@@BrandonH58 Yup! Thanks, Brandon. Really appreciate that. Totally agree with you. I can get a good quote elsewhere, don't need to push where people may be uncomfortable. Hope you stick around for more interviews 😁

[@v1olante]

What an excellent interview. Always nice to hear from the genius himself.

[@ShakWrestling]

Thank you so much! Malakai was amazing

[@GrandeColdBrews]

I ingest a ton of overall wrestling content from watching shows, interviews and whatever I can get my hands on. This is one of the best personal interviews I've seen. The respect for Regal was so genuine. His childhood experiences were awesome to hear about. I really enjoyed this interview.

[@ShakWrestling]

Aww man that is amazing to hear. Really appreciate that feedback. Hope you stick along for the ride ✌😁

[@PigBoyNeo]

Hopefully the youtube algorithm kicks in for you soon dude, another great interview

[@ShakWrestling]

Haha appreciate that. Get your friends to play the video through 😂 all about that watch time

[@bobdole6896]

It worked I have no idea who this channel is but I'm glad it recommended it!

[@ShakWrestling]

@@bobdole6896 slow and steady haha. Appescuate that

[@Recklessghost]

@@ShakWrestling Slow and steady wins the race bro! Awesome channel and fantastic interview! Keep grinding bro

[@ShakWrestling]

@@Recklessghost Appreciate that, Ghost! Hope you stick around 😁

[@alonsoguttierrez4455]

WWE lost, his talent is incredible in every way

[@Shaun_Singletary]

Indeed. They failed to utilize his talent.

[@blade5883]

wwe is trash

[@OliveMule]

Wwe is not pro wrestling. Which is fine. But it's not what we like

[@whocares8584]

Him & so many others well Vince did imo because in NXT he was a monster as pretty much everyone was but as soon as Vince got his grimy hands on em it was over unless you're Roman it's rare you'll get pushed to your fullest potential

[@zombieninjatedsmith1301]

He's feuding with jobbers currently........not necessarily being used well in AEW....his debut was flawless but not having him in the title picture is a damn shame.

[@medina1492]

@SHAK Wrestling. You missed my question! LOL I enjoyed the interview. Malakai Black is very intelligent and articulate with his points and this was a great interview. Looking forward to seeing more of the content and what Malakai brings to AEW. #ProWrestling is Back.

[@ShakWrestling]

Sorry! Can't get to all the questions haha. We barely scratched the halfway mark of what I had prepared. Thank you for the kind words ✌😁

[@medina1492]

@@ShakWrestling Haha no worries. I liked watching the interview. Keep up the great work!!

[@stevekasan3105]

Great interview, and such a fascinating talk with ideas . Especially about his family interviews like these help performers as we understand them. The story about his grand father is amazing on its own. I'm from Malaysia 🇲🇾! Honestly talking about that HHH Era of NXT and I've heard from so many I truly believe that if Hunter ever was to go on his own with his own company, Game Over! Something is happening with these releases. I have a strong feeling

[@ShakWrestling]

Appreciate the kind words :)

[@k999999]

much

[@ShakWrestling]

I think the best is yet to come

[@Yes_Boy]

I love Malakai's interest in creativity. It makes me appreciate any body of work he works on.

[@ShakWrestling]

You can tell when someone's really thought their gimmick through

[@USTMTV]

great interview SHAK! more in depth questions then the other interviews he has done! well done!

[@ShakWrestling]

Thanks friend! That's what we strive for ✌😁

[@danh950]

Great one, cant wait till a part 2 or even more

[@ShakWrestling]

Neither can I haha

[@biduMandias]

Great interviews (like this) goes both ways. I can't believe that I follow pro-wrestling for like 2 + decades and never heard about Shak. Good and interesting questions that I would probably be interested to ask Malaki myself if I had the chance. Shak is also a very good listener and easy going person. And what can I say about Malakai? What a good professional he is. I mean, he is a total different person out of character and someone I could relate to. Instant subscribe, follow and share from me!

[@ShakWrestling]

Haha appreciate it, Fabio! In your defense, I only really started doing wrestling interviews about 4 months ago

[@luigicsta6950]

Awesome interview with Malakai. So intriguing to learn about some of the origins of his character. I find his backstory fascinating.

[@ShakWrestling]

Thanks so much, Luigi! He was a great interview subject. Hope you stick around for more 😁

[@SirDawkster]

Malakai is such an interesting guy with an awesome personality.

[@ShakWrestling]

Such a thoughtful interview subject

[@Dhardy316]

Great interview, not the 'run of the mill' interview. Im subbing and you got quite the collection already, keep grinding away and great job.

[@ShakWrestling]

Can't tell you how much I appreciate the kind words. Glad you're joining the squad ✌😁

[@GimmeAHullYeah]

An incredible chat, fantastic stuff. Well done.

[@ShakWrestling]

Thanks so much 👊

[@DashingPunkSamurai]

My favorite wrestler in the whole world. Thank You!!!! #HouseofBlack

[@ShakWrestling]

Top tier wrestler for sure

[@xDoomsDayx100]

What an awesome interview! I always enjoy learning more from Malakai Black!!!

[@ShakWrestling]

Glad you liked it, Yajirobe!

[@lefthandofgawd]

Great interview dude

[@ShakWrestling]

Much love, LaRon! 😁

[@Petunia69]

Good stuff Shak!! Love your work.

[@ShakWrestling]

Thanks so much, Patrick! You da man

[@ariarasavar8290]

You just gained a sub man, great work!

[@ShakWrestling]

Appreciate that, Aria! Hope to see you around these comment sections again 😁

[@comedianmattrossey]

Shak, First time to see one of your videos and I love that you ask original and in depth digging questions. It's great to hear real answers and not character portrayal. Thank You!, Matt -Toronto, Canada (NEW SUBSCRIBER)

[@ShakWrestling]

Stoked to have a fellow Canadian on the journey ✌😁 Thank you!

[@comedianmattrossey]

@@ShakWrestling Your Canadian? Whereabouts?

[@ShakWrestling]

@@comedianmattrossey Vancouver

[@comedianmattrossey]

@@ShakWrestling Ahhhhh I miss Vancouver greatly. Lived there for 20 years. How's things out there?

[@ShakWrestling]

@@comedianmattrossey Well a good chunk of BC was wrecked by flooding, but other than that, same as usual. Skiing, rain and hikes

[@SkizFizz]

10:08 I think this man can help the world with his family history and his ability to rise above it all

[@ShakWrestling]

His resolve is inspiring

[@SkizFizz]

@@ShakWrestling Amazing speaker

[@tuulenkoti]

>Grew up in a cult >Decide to larp as Aleister Crowley Genius.

[@ShakWrestling]

One of a kind for sure

[@joshiesworld77]

Tommy has one of the best minds in wrestling and in the world honestly, he always feel so genuine, and I love how you conducted this interview, I can tell you actually cared about your questions and remained very respectful. I'm definitely subscribing after seeing this, very good job here.

[@ShakWrestling]

Thanks so much! Stoked to have you along for the ride :)

[@scottyphillips7799]

Gained a sub buddy keep up the great work.

[@ShakWrestling]

Thank you so much!

[@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051]

It's so good to hear black talk about these things so openly as we dont know that much about him personally, hes one of my favorite wrestlers right now I see massive things for him in the future.. he should have been a main eventer in wwe they really dropped the ball with black.. glad he now has the freedom and respect he deserves in AEW.. The house of black welcomes you

[@ShakWrestling]

Excited to see where the House of Black goes

[@marksneddon3709]

I remember seeing him in the UK 🇬🇧 on the independent circuit as Tommy End He was real good back then I remember watching him as Alister Black it took me several weeks (an a tiny bit of research to realise who he was, lol) As everyone seems to keep putting WWE definitely missed out (dropped the ball) with this guy Onwards and upwards

[@ShakWrestling]

Stoked to see him and Brody King together in AEW

[@paulcarpenter7844]

Big time

[@Noctren]

Hope you gain traction man you are a good host/interviewer.

[@ShakWrestling]

You're too kind, Vergio Appreciate that!

[@TradeForexwithPaul]

His self awareness and honesty is so refreshing. Big fan 🙌🏼

[@ShakWrestling]

He was impeccable

[@northernking4787]

Really great interview had no idea how cool of a guy Malakai is!

[@ShakWrestling]

He's great! Really appreciate the kind words ✌😁

[@philiphaller1018]

Seen a few interviews with him now and seems like the absolute best guy

[@ShakWrestling]

He makes interviewing easy

[@johanprx7985]

I was so surprised this guys was from Holland just like me. I'm not the most knowledgeable guy about wrestling but i had never seen a Dutch wrestler or opportunities to wrestle in Holland. And then making it all the way to AEW and WWE? That's amazing

[@edallen1921]

Ive been following his career for years now, i thought for a min there around the end of 2018 early 2019 nxt was gonna really gonna do something great with him. As soon as he got released i got so excited, besides his character his talent as a pro wrestler is just amazing.

[@ShakWrestling]

One-of-a-kind

[@samuelmolette2599]

IDK if yall remember back in wcccw they had the great kubukii he had the spit that mist out to that's where the great muta got it from. Texas wrestling where the von erichs from they had a lot of good wrestlers back then alot of them are WWE Hof black is awesome WWE lost a great gift and TK pick him up now he's shinning bright glad for him great interview 🤟

[@ShakWrestling]

Shout out to the Great Kubuki and all other mist-spitters

[@spudmagnum7394]

Can I just say how much I appreciate the time stamps hahahahaha

[@ShakWrestling]

I gotchu homie

[@sanadkhreis7045]

That part about his childhood and religion he grew up in was pretty great, love that he got into it so in depth despite you being a little hesitant about asking the question. Like kinda contrasts on the Tony khan interview where you asked the unionization question and he turned it down, but the fact you asked a risky question As an interviewer is pretty cool, don’t think any other interviews in the game do that, but sometimes it pays off like in this interview. Keep up the great work hopefully the KZbin algorithm eventually works in ur favor …. 900 something subscribers is criminal! 😂

[@ShakWrestling]

Haha, slowly but surely we'll get there! Thank you and appreciate the thoughtful comment :)

[@lenoir936]

the future AEW champion is here ladies and gentleman :)

[@ShakWrestling]

I'd love a Malakai Black title reign

[@thatjarlselby5907]

This is why he is my fav

[@ShakWrestling]

One of my favorites right now too

[@orobas8080]

As someone who is really into the Occult and magic, I think I'm more interested in Malakai's thoughts around that than I am pro wrestling lol

[@ShakMMA]

Haha you got a taste of it!

[@deborahpatterson3145]

He's so cute and handsome

[@mikexklinsky]

I'm excited to watch / listen to this entirely, but I won't finish it before AEW Dynamite!

[@ShakWrestling]

Haha that's alright! Really appreciate you checking it out ✌😁

[@WrestlinginColorPodcast]

I like Black's accent

[@ShakWrestling]

For sure! Very few popular Dutch wrestlers in the U.S.

[@deborahpatterson3145]

Love him

[@ShakWrestling]

He's great

[@jackpumpkinpatch2119]

New subscriber 👍

[@ShakWrestling]

Appreciate that so much

[@williamregal9522]

I am coming to AEW

[@ShakWrestling]

Can't wait to see ya 😂

[@raybrock5917]

This guy is undoubtedly my favorite. As well he should be because he cares about me the fan. With that said I will share every ounce of energy I have as a fan to feed his fire.. he gets it. Overthink the hell out of it brother it works...

[@ShakWrestling]

For sure

[@VallhallaViking]

MMA fight would be CRO Cop vs Silva

[@ShakWrestling]

Classic choice

[@kinghiggins5021]

Alistair black AKA Malachi black The Fade to black is awesome As well as the coffin entrance I am scared of him

[@joshuaafcutler7348]

You forgot Tajiri and Killer Khan, who both spat mist!

[@ShakWrestling]

Great Muta was supposed to represent all the mist spitters haha

[@joshuaafcutler7348]

@@ShakWrestling I would have limited it specifically to gimmicks where the wrestler spat mist that "blinded" his opponent.

[@kokotheclown2588]

He’ll be great as an AEW booker or an agent once his career comes to an end he has a great mind for the business helping young talent grow and help the business in general fresh ideas always help

[@ShakWrestling]

Oh certainly a very deep thinker

[@derekolson8290]

No disrespect to Muta, but before there was the Great Muta there was the Great Kabuki (mist).

[@ShakWrestling]

Absolutely! Mutah was supposed to represent all mist-spitters

[@nero8419]

Heist of the century for AEW when they snagged this guy, he is a very complex individual.

[@ShakWrestling]

A genuine surprise appearance too

[@02sandies]

What does the House of Black think of his wife still being in WWE?

[@johnnyo5808]

Damn shame he could not have hooked up with the Undertaker just one time. That would have been a passing of the torch.

[@ShakWrestling]

The entrances would have been spectacular

[@Ajc606]

How the fuck does a company release THIS person???? It worked out in the end for the fans because he's not held back but he's too valuable to release.

[@shoWbitz]

Because wwe and vkm are ridiculously obsessed with one superstar only. That buffoon is Boring Overrated Reigns. Others are just expendable extras.

[@Ajc606]

@@shoWbitz You're right. Such a shame.

[@nintendope8837]

Wow

[@ShakWrestling]

What a story

[@pivotpointfilms]

Black vs The Chairman Sean Spears would be great

[@ShakWrestling]

Spears had a pretty good promo on Rampage recently

[@Robby_C]

Asuka's mist is solid most of the time, and she works it well, but there is no real logic behind why she does it. lol

[@MidwestEmoGuy]

A future aew champ right there!

[@ShakWrestling]

I really hope so!

[@pivotpointfilms]

Taker taking hat off?

[@aaronontube6979]

Doea he wear a contact lense? Ive never known the awnser lol

[@ShakWrestling]

Considering his eye wasn't like that at the start of his WWE run, I'd imagine so haha

[@bucketdecals8428]

Wow, you really get more than you bargained for when you interview Malakai Black!

[@ShakWrestling]

Lots of questions left over for next time haha

[@bluemarvel4601]

Great KABUKI is the #1 mist spitter!

[@ShakWrestling]

That is fair haha

[@MrDoneboy]

What a great guy...To have risen up from a religion nightmare childhood...Just like me!

[@ShakWrestling]

Especially his poise. Glad to hear you're doing well too!

[@iopsycho]

That religion he spoke of... Jehovah's Witnesses. Literally described it to a T.

[@ShakWrestling]

Perhaps. Not sure if he meant 100,000 members in the Netherlands or worldwide

[@bluemarvel4601]

WWE messed up again lol

[@_itsholly]

So basically he manifests his character hes very enlightened

[@ShakWrestling]

A very cerebral thinker

[@jonwoodmass2849]

You forgot Tajiri

[@ShakWrestling]

We put all the mist spitters under an umbrella haha. Thought Great Muta was the best representitive of the bunch

[@jonwoodmass2849]

@@ShakWrestling fair play bro

[@ShakWrestling]

@@jonwoodmass2849 You're cool. I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.

[@jonwoodmass2849]

@@ShakWrestling you're cool too my man. No green mist for you today

[@jonwoodmass2849]

I'm thinking Malakai was JW

[@diontenelson1116]

How could you leave out tajiri

[@ShakWrestling]

Muta was meant to represent all the mist spitters 😁

[@six6thdisciple]

VOO-DON IS WEST AFRICAN NOT MALAYSIAN...

[@noenpecinaarnaut1568]

Am very sorry that aew malakai black got released from aew I don’t know why he would do that you can’t Fire him

[@ShakWrestling]

Hope he comes back :(

[@dogwalkerdavid7168]

Wow such a politicaly correct answer.every1 on the list got even respect and props

[@ShakWrestling]

Malakai is a respectful guy

[@dogwalkerdavid7168]

@@ShakWrestling yep.i agree.very cool guy.

[@sergiogama4376]

So Wwe destroy NXT and triple h damn that hurts

[@ShakWrestling]

I'll miss it

[@codyhoiles]

Was wrong with his eye 👁

[@tommyrevolution]

It's just a contact to my knowledge. It extends from an angle where Seth Rollins kayfabe injured Rey Mysterio's eye then proceeded to do the same with Black. He built it into is look/character and if I recall correctly he had it in his final appearance before is WWE release.

[@ShakWrestling]

He mentioned in his AEW Unrestricted podcast appearance that the idea of Malakai Black sparked from a demon of sorts infesting into that hurt eye and possessing Aleister/Tommy End

[@OliveMule]

I wish he would not do interviews......I'm not a cornette weirdo....but his character needs kayfabe

[@OliveMule]

Even though I dont like it.....this interview was incredible

[@ShakWrestling]

@@OliveMule Well haha. I'm glad you loved it even if it went against your impulses 😂

[@shoWbitz]

I could have been the 667th to like this video, but I resisted. 666 likes is perfect for this video.

[@ShakWrestling]

You're doing the g... the devil's work*

[@joehogan5652]

He’s a great wrestler but his gimmick is the same from WWE I think he should of done more of a Conor McGregor style character where he talks more and hyped up fights and keeps the mma kicks And stuff

[@ShakWrestling]

Really? I feel like it's a great evolution of the character

[@DanieruX10]

I disagree. As Eddie Kingston once said. Wrestlers characters have a part of their real personality in there somewhere. This is Malachi's.

[@jamiem2349]

If you think his gimmick is the same then you’re not really watching

[@jennymuller7606]

I started whatching AWE dynamite 🧨 because of Malakai he is one the best not wrestler but fighter literally I see him in the ring 💍 I love his Marshall Arts of fighting I love ❤️ his kick-boxing talent . Right now in AWE dynamite he is the best fighter in the Ring I truly believe he will be inducted in the Hall of fame . I love Malakai promo in the House of black because he can truly show how truly talented passionate ambitious talented Malakai really is ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😘😘😘😘😘🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️