Malaska Golf // Full Swing - Malaska Move - Body & Arm Movement - Golf Tips

[@lorenzundschmidt]

after a 4 years lasting journey through toxic you tube golf stuff i found the Malaska Move - thank you so much 👍👍👍

[@gabardjean-paul3779]

Joe NICHOLS’s move

[@Real_Pete]

Two best instructors I've seen.

[@stevestewart240]

These 2 guys are as good as it gets ..when it comes to golf instruction ..

[@rogopenshaw7346]

Thank you mike for being the one golf instructor out there that actually explains the swing in a way that is absolutely dummy proof. Golfed first over 15 years and changed my swing 5 times then I found your concept. Finally I feel what the golf swing is actually supposed to feel like, have found effortless power, and best of all I’m consistently hitting center of club face. Oh, and it doesn’t hurt to swing and it feels so loose and fluid. It is so fun to stand in my garage and hit balls and feel like I finally have it figured out.

[@Woodstock258]

Mike, this video extremely helpful with drill taking the hands away and pivot their body and rotate. Since viewing this video the Malaska Move falls into place. Please continue to review and show the drill taking the hands and pivot their and rotate. It helps clear up the confusion and helps understand blending arms and body rotation

[@johndepinto2719]

the right leg left leg back drill is awesome and really gives you the full swing feel

[@billnickelsen1560]

All athelets maintain balance when they move, baseball tennis skiing all sports require good balance. The golf swing is no different. In the downswing with angular momentum the left hip should move back automatically to maintain balance. The perfect blend of arm swing and body turn! Well done Mike!

[@jackbailey7184]

two great teachers,with the same ideas.

[@eujinpark6958]

Very easy to understand for real golf swing.

[@margiepargie1982]

Number one instruction for a beginner is teach them how to pivot!! Then add on. It's like when you get dressed you don't put on your clothes before you put on your underwear. It is a process and so many people are throwing their arms around because they took lessons and no one stopped and corrected them. "Oh Mrs. Havercamp what a great swing. Just keep swinging your arms and your score will improve. Don't forget we have another 100 dollar lesson next week. You keep practicing throwing your arms and hands and we'll see you soon." (Sarcasim) This coach is so on it. He has a keen eye and he cares!! I would love to take a lesson from both these guys.

[@philtrick123]

5:09 should for been a shout of 'Fore Left'. Cart driver waving their fist back :-) Great lesson

[@ronyalefaio]

Im a 15 handicap..just started playing golf in 2013..my swing style is exactly the same as him..thats why i like this guy..no fancy shit..not too technical..just your natural swing plus concentrations on club face and the ball itself..that is all it matters..

[@BamaPaul]

These two good teachers has opposing views. But they both work I kinda use both. You can see the frustration ha .Good video

[@videom]

this is why i say that there are many different ways to explain a golf swing. i had plenty of people try to explain the swing to me and ONLY Mike's way worked!!!went from a 12 to a 6 handicap in 6 months but i'm sure Mike's instructions are not for everyone since our brains work differently! Thanks MIke for all that you do...now I just need better touch with my putter!

[@robsaxepga]

Man I'm glad I'm a better player lol. This all makes so much sense and has really improved my ball striking. And you're right, it seems too simple.

[@kingpositivemal]

I loved this video, I was actually making a lot of the mistakes that you guys were explaining. This definitely made things a lot clearer for me. I am going to watch this series on the site.

[@timkozlow5258]

I can relate to all this. Embarrassing as it is I think I have done just about everything that is described here, I have been working on this for seven months. It seems simple but for me, it is something I just have not been able to do. When Mike explains the right arm it finally clicked in for me. I can hit the ball beautifully on the range. Just taking easy swings. My six-iron is going now at about 160 yards. Not far at all but I have not been able to swing at more than 60 percent without it getting out of sequence. My lower body has not been working the way it should. It is starting to feel better and it is working better than it ever has. I was a hand and arms player for years. This is how I was taught. The body just is along for the ride. I got pretty good at it but it caused two shoulder injuries in four years. I was a single-digit handicap until the injuries that caused me to miss almost four years. It's been humbling. My habits were so ingrained and contradictory to what Mike teaches that is has been a battle to get out of them. I spend at least 12 hours a week on the range and at the end of the week, I play one round to see where I'm at. I still can't get it to the course. I want to straighten my right arm before impact and I under rotate. This only happens when I play. Not on the range. I have had to move up to a shorter tee and I have changed my irons to an easier shaft. I now use graphite instead of steel. I used to play blades with a stiff steel shaft but they just became too heavy and I lost too much distance. I can see the difference but it's slow in coming. I spent four hours yesterday working on this and didn't feel like my body was beaten up like it used to be. I'm sticking with it. I want to get back to a single-digit handicap and compete again in local tournaments and events. I still feel like I'm far from that.

[@historicus146]

I would like to see you discuss lateral side bend or the gap between the right shoulder and the right hip closing on the downswing.... Your thought of pushing the hips back to make room for the hands in the downswing .... I would enjoy more of that discussion. thanks for the videos!!

[@methodicl2673]

Whoa! Step one for you is STOP thinking about all those things. Did you think about all that when you threw rocks or a ball as a child?

[@papahajek5383]

My guess is that the tips Mike gives on learning to control the club head before adding speed, pivot other more advanced moves because he describes a learning process rather than a quick fix. Even the pros he teaches come in with pre conceived notions that must be unlearned because they are causing inconsistency or injury.

[@hiphop99ful]

Yeah i agree its taken me ages to get a blend of the 2 but feel im getting there now

[@lesleywillis6177]

Ha ha. Them first couple of swings by milo would be great for me. 😂😂

[@thevinsk]

I know I’m late to this conversation but hopefully someone can help. A dumb question to many of you but when Mike says his trail arm is still bent, well yes. But it goes from being about 90* bent to….not straight, but certainly straightens. He says ‘rotated’ but the trail arm is also unfolding, it has to. So how do we initiate the tipping or ‘standing ‘ of the club with speed from rotation, without fully straightening the trail arm? Does this make sense?

[@jonathancrist1456]

Great video! It makes me think of a Hammer thrower. Hammer = handle, a chain, and a weight. Question, is the left arm the "chain" that will straighten out (centrifugal force) or is it centered between the arms (sternum)? I see that from the transition from the backswing going forward, the "feel" is the tightening on the chain with the weight of the ball swinging away from the attachment your arm to your chest. I'm also curious about how much work the back elbow does? Is it relaxed or is it carrying much of the load during the downswing. These video are great to help me with my positions in the mirror, but I am now trying to work in my "feels" as I transition. Beyond this working on my footwork / balance is the hardest. Keep up the great content.

[@stevestewart240]

It’s a blend is the KEY..

[@colerche]

I know this video has been up for a while, but after looking into this topic I think part of the problem people have is seeing the "Move" as something discrete whereas it is really part of a bigger movement...So, I would call it more a way to route your downswing as a whole.

[@joshbrown1567]

Excellent video

[@zatoichi-sm8mj]

superb explanation

[@lesliewoodcock5880]

Very nice. Well done.

[@r533bbd]

Great video! I think I finally understand.

[@chrisstevens2593]

It appears that the common mistake in the tipping out move is that the trail hand passes the lead hand too soon. WHEN should the trail hand pass the lead hand in the downswing ? Thanks

[@whetedge]

Just a thought, but if we are having to re-adjust position of the club from the top, maybe it's time to re-think "the top"? The return swing should be mindless; let the coiled spring release.

[@RobertFlynn-i4h]

Well thats interesting to me , ive watched both pf you guys over the last year, and have tried to see similar , but couldn't, now you talk together, you believe your similar. I ve found milo, very lay back shalf plane and strong lower body sit down, and big foward body and lead hip push back. Mike likes rear hip back to create space , and lead hip to push back to creaye wip through. Ive alwaus thought mike has better awareness of where the clib is in the swing, perhaps the age difference and milo more power driven. Bit im 64, and enjoy both of you

[@Murf1802]

Mike I think the student like me should learn how to use there bottom half first before they learn how to use this swing !!! Once you feel the ground forces it's incredible feeling ,, it didn't happen right away I had to work for it to happen I just stood there in posture without a club just my body until I found it !!! Took a bit but I understand and I have this feeling now that's were I get my speed from legs !!!!

[@lorenzundschmidt]

one question are your eyes fixed on the ball during the entire swing ? do you see when the club face is catching up the ball ? or are you already facing the target at impact like Annika Sorenstam ?

[@MrLeftyno1]

Great comment, The swing is a blend of hands, arms and body, get the blend right and your off to the races as they say.

[@Schnoberich]

Maybe I am wrong but for me there are existing the two concepts, which are so different that You cannot blend them 40/60 or 50/50. You have the modern rotational golf swing (e.g. beatifully described by Dan Whittacker, used by most tour players ) with a body release and the Malaska type of swing (obviously used by Jack Nicklaus and former players) with pivot and more arms/hand release. I have tried both. The Malaska swing is a very harmonic and efficient way to swing with less stress for lower back and less flexibility requirements, but with higher need for good timing. The rotational swing allows more power and yards with reasonable stability/consistency.

[@andrewcooper3151]

Well I think you're wrong! Every good swing blends a rotating body with an arms swing. Saying it's one way or the other is a gross simplification. Look at Nicklaus, of course he's rotating his body, in sync with releasing his hands and arms. Or Hogan, and the attention he gave to what the hands and arms were doing. Different instructors may prioritise body turn, others prioritise arms swing, and a pupil may need to improve one or the other component (and how they hold the club is a big influence on that), but ultimately the desired end result is always a blend.

[@georgestone6531]

George I agree 100% with Mr. Cooper. I start my down swing with the handle coming down and the blend my turn with the club head out. That part is a matter of timing and feel. If you watch the rotary swing videos and pause the start of the downswing, you will see the handle is coming down as Mike advocates.

[@grahamjones7371]

Allways enjoyed Mikes Videos but as l low handicap senior didnt really relate but after working on a strong right sided coiling move into the ground on the backswing and not over connecting I suddenly started to feel Mikes Move in the middle of a round! instantly added 15yds and hit top class hybrids arrow strait 185 -200yds to six feet!

[@thombendtsen399]

Would it be fair to say that most bad golfers don’t use their arms and hands correctly which leads to a bad pivot? And that good ball strikers use their arms and hands well so they need to work more on blending the arms and body together?

[@georgesmith4639]

It's important to note that this "tipping" of the club in front of you feeling assumes the club is in the correct position before the tipping begins. I'm an older, shorter, fairly inflexible guy and I cant take the club back very far and dont have flexible wrists so I tend to stand the club up like a car antenna at the top of the swing and that position is no where near sufficient for this tipping move to work. You must have the club head behind your shoulders at least to some degree (i.e. slightly laid off) in order to have something to "tip". When I first tried this "Malaska" move I couldn't get it to work because my club was always on the verge of being tipped at transition and tipping it more just produced steep fat shots. After I worked on getting the club more laid off in transition the tipping move worked wonderfully well.

[@rexxengineering4653]

Interesting video. You highlight the inherent difficulty in teaching golf. There is no standard advice or set of tips that will help everybody. Golfers are holding the club different ways and moving their bodies and arms differently. They may be over or under using body rotation. Everything needs to be kept in balance. There is also the mind over matter problem. When the mind tells the body to do something, the body does it differently than the mind intends. When I try to deliberately swing with an intention to be on an inside out path, it doesn't work at all. Other types of thoughts are more effective at achieving this. So any type of advice out there may not or may be misinterpreted by students or be ineffective. That's why learning this game and improving is so difficult. Also, some people are naturally very good at intuitively sensing and correcting plane, path, face angle during the swing. So whatever they try to do in the swing, they still hit decent shots because they are good at making little compensations. Others not. Thanks for the video.

[@normankleinberg5525]

I agree: That' s why KZbin can be such a problem in trying to learn to swing a golf club. Most pieces of advice were never meant for you, each individual has their own problems and trying to apply the wrong tip can make those problems worse. For example, with me, the problem is that I won't move (pivot) my body. I'm either lazy or my physical issues inhibit a rotation. So advice to use my arms/hands in a certain way is counter productive. OTOH, Milo's approach of teaching "certain people" to concentrate on pivoting and taking the arms out of the swing is exactly what I would need. But browsing KZbin, GolfWrx etc. often I won't be able to tell if it's a good tip FOR ME.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Norman Kleinberg that is why you should work with me and not just try to learn from KZbin or forums

[@margiepargie1982]

Not everyone gets the same instruction is so true. One person will interpret instruction very differently than another. It is the job of a golf pro to use different terminology for different people, especially if you are teaching non athletic students.

[@amfohr]

1:08 The image of shoulders and hips shut is not strange, that is showed in a lot in his videos as a phase to pivot the club in front of you. Also hold your right shoulder back for a moment. That people maintain this position consequently is not strange at all. People do not make this up, they of course get if from the videos. Learning this technic is apparently not that easy or clear to the people. I think there should indeed be more attention to the body pivot in addition to the hands pivot.

[@ericdumont610]

Two completely different swings, as I play off +2 Mike's swing works wonders and very consistently, the other swing is more body than arms, and caused me a lot of problems in the past, Mike's swing is deffinely arms dominated, 100%.

[@D1theendzone1919]

I appreciate u for subbing

[@mikea1094]

Who is the other instructor in this video?

[@methodicl2673]

Let's face it. Some people (especially most people with money) don't have a single athletic bone in their body. I can only imagine the frustration of these teachers trying to teach someone who has never done a single athletic motion in their lives how to achieve an athletic motion like a golf swing. I think you can tell from the first time a person swings a club if they are completely hopeless or will be able to succeed.

[@rhinoragni8349]

They “came up with that one” because Mike explained his concepts poorly at first so it’s great to clarify what you’re trying to get golfers to do. Professional communicators often say, the meaning of a communication is the response you get. It’s important not to blame misunderstanding of your concepts on your audience. Great discussion here though.

[@MJB7322]

The reasons that so many of your viewers and students just swing their arms and don't use their bodies is because Mike's teachings are so heavily weighted towards the arms and hands and NOT the body. I believe that Mike thinks that if the student knows what to do with the arms and hands, the movement of the body will take care of itself (as shown in the Jack Nicklaus Lower Body video). However, those who watch these youtube golf videos hyper-focus on the particulars of the video and completely forget the other parts of the swing. Maybe Mike can do a few more videos explaining in a bit more detail how the body and arms work together.

[@emncaity]

If you intend to use your hand to grab a plate off the top shelf of a cabinet, how does that work? Do you make sure you instruct each part of the body how to do that? Like, how to walk across the room, stand a little on your toes to reach it, angle the body in a certain way to balance the arm that reaches, use the off arm and hand to brace a little against the counter, etc.? Yes, the golf swing is somewhat (allhough not all that much) more complex, so it's a little different in degree, but not really different in kind. For most people the intent to do something with an implement or tool held by the hands involves the intent to do something with hands and arms (mostly forearms), and -- as guys like Toski, Flick, Love Jr., etc. used to say -- the further away you get from that connection, the more the parts are reactive and supportive. That's true with almost anything you do. I used to do this with students all the time: If you tell a person to put a ball in his hand and throw it 40 feet, with most people you'll see a gentle shift of weight, maybe hardly even noticeable. Tell him to throw it 120 yards and you'll see him step into it, "rotate," all of that. Why? Because of what he intended to do with the ball by using his hand and arm. Not that the "body" (non-swinging) parts you're talking about aren't important -- of course they are -- and it's also true that you _can_ work on these supporting parts directly as a kind of shortcut ("hips move this way at the start of the downswing," etc.). Sometimes that's beneficial in the right amounts and with the right approach., for instance when you've developed a really bad habit that you're just stuck in (although usually the best way out of those is to use a well-designed drill to do a new and better thing) and you actually need to isolate one element. But 1) most of the time those supporting elements will tend to happen of themselves if you're thinking of what you want the club to do and what you intend to do with the hands and arms, and all of that in the context of a swinging motion (nothing else can actually swing); 2) most people find that it's typically better when possible to center their thinking around what the club is doing and what the swinging motion is doing to make that happen; 3) it's always good to keep in mind that when you work on the supporting stuff, it _is_ supportive and will not of itself create a swing; and 4) even when you do need to work on "body" elements, you should always be looking to establish and re-establish that feel for why the swinging motion needs that particular thing to be done and what the relationship is. For a lot of people, the problem is that the golf swing is a matter of trying to force disjointed parts around from position to position, with no feel for or attention toward what the body is telling them it needs to do, and much of the time that's because they've really never identified a swinging motion or the precise right path for the club, so they really don't have any sense or feel for what all these things they believe they're supposed to do are supposed to be related to. It's like driving blind with somebody telling you how to angle your foot on the gas pedal and how to use your lats and traps and all that to make your hands move to turn the steering wheel a certain number of degrees, but not being able to see anything outside the car that tells you what the point of all of it is, how much is too much, how much is just right, etc. That vision and feel for exactly what you need the car to do should be the actual origin point for what you're trying to do, rather than thinking from specific body motions outward. I'm not talking about a structureless swing, but a specific intent to move the club through a precise plane and path with a swinging motion. The more exact you get with that, the more the "what do I do with this body part" answers tend to fall into place. Aside from that, some of John Jacobs' material is particularly good in addressing the "how the arm swing and the turning elements work together" question. He was insistent that you really couldn't neglect either. it's swinging-while-turning, or turning-while-swinging, but it can't be anything but both at the same time if you're going to be any good. Guys like Toski, Flick, (early) Kostis, Malaska, etc., took that heritage and advanced it. Maybe you've read them, but some people reading here haven't.

[@bonefiedrealdeal3640]

I like these Malaska videos but i really dont need to know what people are doing wrong or what not to do .

[@thomasfraser9072]

🤓Mike has never once expressed the simplicity of his move.... So I will try. He is simply using centripetal force created with the entire natural mechanical moves of his body to twirl the club head in it's circular path to the ball and through to the finish of his swing. He does this by swinging the club handle back using apparent centrifugal force first with lead hand ( trail hand passive) which gives the club head centripetal force plus direction to travel up and at the end of his backswing. To start the downswing he quickly unfold all the joints on you lead side as he swings the handle with additional 'apparent centrifugal force' using his trail hand ( lead hand now passive) as the primary point of source of power so the club head given 'centripetal force' can easily reverse it's path to return to the original path he made at setting up to the ball and then easily continuing its path the the end of his swing...... It a matter of pure physics and physical power from the core of our body applying it power and momentum to the point of axis of the club head which is the handle of the club set in our opposing hands. Our opposing hands on the grip of the club should be our center of attention which supplies the apparent centrifugal force from our entire body by simply swinging the handle up, down, and back up again with corresponding and accelerating centripetal power directed to the club head to the finish of the swing. Clear as mud?? I hope not. Cheers.

[@sluggworth2154]

This is a bunch of unreadable jibber jabber

[@alexBaldman]

Yeah back to the drawing board bud

[@thomasfraser9072]

@@alexBaldman absolutely what I wrote here was 100 percent crap. I have ridden my mind from hundreds of useless thoughts and doing far better then ever before. Cheers

[@thomasfraser9072]

@@sluggworth2154 agrée 100 percent. I must have been on medication at that time. 😂

[@alexBaldman]

@@thomasfraser9072 lol

[@amfohr]

In previous video with Jack Nicklaus he used the shoulders to much through impact. This teacher now notices players not using the shoulders at all and keeping them shut through impact.

[@lililliililillilil]

Hey mike its fucking hard to do that ok? Even for pro player.

[@jukkakymalainen]

In my opinion one reason why people have problems, is because you always talk how effortles it is. Yes, it is "effortles" but it is still athletic motion.

[@waqarghulam2653]

Mike this guy is casting, releasing his wrists, if the wrists are not released consciously then what he is demonstrating will not happen. Body will automatically get involved

[@clintcrusberg9820]

I don’t get it they talk about how simple it is but discuss every little thing that needs to happen then everything that could go wrong in a transition they is literally less than a half second

[@lutzchoco1]

some golfers dont know how to realease properly because not been taught in detail Period !

[@dustyttrain]

Then explain it better and it won’t be misinterpreted

[@MrAsh1952]

just turn your hips on downswing

[@ebttt]

Don't spend so much time on what not to do. It doesn't help anybody.

[@williammacdonald9271]

These two spend 99 per cent of video of what not to do, i need focus on positive. I appreciate the thought but hate negative tutoing.

[@gswdaniel]

No need to pay for any of this 💩!

[@RobertJohanssonRBImGuy]

Clueless teaching though. Hey Mike people dont misunderstand what they are doing are what you tell them to do. Build a better instruction if you can, I dare you....

[@RobertJohanssonRBImGuy]

and you havent met me, obviously