Mall Ninja Weapons Used By A Real Swordsman (The Sequel)

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@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 2 жыл бұрын
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@icarusswitkes6833
@icarusswitkes6833 2 жыл бұрын
You should try to get skallagrim or shadiversity on the show at some point that would be amazing
@youdontknowme8129
@youdontknowme8129 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently there were daggers like the Batman one. They were from India.
@DoctorBro_Skullz555
@DoctorBro_Skullz555 2 жыл бұрын
Do you guys not know how to use bladed weapons or knowledge of the how they are used historically or in modern times ?
@alexandernelson647
@alexandernelson647 2 ай бұрын
There actually was a three claw weapon called the iron Claw. It was used in Asia and certain Europwan countries
@chubby_deity3143
@chubby_deity3143 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they have any blacksmith friends, and try to recreate a functional version of these strip mall weapons, similar to the "Cory Builds" videos. That would be a series I would follow.
@artemiswallace8716
@artemiswallace8716 2 жыл бұрын
that works would fit this to a T
@cranfill
@cranfill 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@nfladamgrim
@nfladamgrim 2 жыл бұрын
Where’s Alec Steele when you need him?!
@JaxMerrick
@JaxMerrick 2 жыл бұрын
Chris from Fearghall Blades? (the episode where they made a blade out of a farriers rasp)
@deamonsoul1
@deamonsoul1 2 жыл бұрын
Two that I'm aware of from previous videos. But most of these aren't functional ideas for forgable functional weapons
@jcon6734
@jcon6734 2 жыл бұрын
In defense of the Batman knife, I like to carry a pocket knife with two blades. I would never use both at once, but I like having one blade to abuse opening packages and prying crap, and one to keep nice and sharp. That specific knife is still bulky and dumb, but the existence of two blades in one folding knife is very reasonable.
@JCOwens-zq6fd
@JCOwens-zq6fd 2 жыл бұрын
Our ancestors carried multiblade knives for bushcrafting, skinning etc on long hunts in the pioneer days & double bladed daggers were a thing in 16th-19th century India. You can still buy tourist replicas today actually but they are not meant to be used.
@Sheridantank
@Sheridantank 2 жыл бұрын
You call opening packages abusing a knife? Lmao. I get what you're saying and you're right. But really for most people it's more like one blade can be used for cutting thin wire and ACTUALLY doing minor abuse. The other end would be for regular opening tasks. Unless you need a brand new Razer sharp blade at all times. But keeping a blade and not even cutting packages with it is basically pointless. Better yet.. Carry a self defense fixed blade and a folder for rough cuts so your SD blade stays sharp. Throw in a multi tool, handgun, small flashlight, lighter, and you're good for almost every situation.
@jcon6734
@jcon6734 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Sheridantank Opening packages probably doesn't really count as abuse, but I really hate it when a blade gets gunked up with glue from cutting tape. I know it's easy enough to clean off, but it's sort of a pet peeve thing.
@velazquezarmouries
@velazquezarmouries 2 жыл бұрын
Hunter buck knives and the spay skinner or razor knives have a main normal buck blade and another specialty blade
@BaldMancTwat
@BaldMancTwat 2 жыл бұрын
I get what you're saying but I don't think that's as unusual as you think. Pretty much every Swiss Army knife has more than 1 blade, even the smallest one has 1 blade and scissors, which I would count as a blade.
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 2 жыл бұрын
The Wolverine claws remind me of an Indian (from-India) weapon called a _bagh nakh_ (literally "tiger's claw"), where the claws are on the palm side of the weapon instead of the knuckle side, kind of cupped in your fingers. Rather than punching, they're used to make open-handed swiping attacks like an actual tiger's claw.
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega 2 жыл бұрын
Japan has a similar one- the shuko AKA tekagi-shuko. Supposedly it was a tool for climbing used by ninja and sometimes was used as an improvised weapon.
@sophisticatedbear3374
@sophisticatedbear3374 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaos_omega the Japanese had actual claw weapons called tekko-kagi with the blades on the knuckle side.
@rioulethebeats9717
@rioulethebeats9717 3 ай бұрын
I might be late to this video but I like how everyone's saying the Tiger Claw and I'm like that reminds me of Shredder from TMNT
@JCOwens-zq6fd
@JCOwens-zq6fd 2 жыл бұрын
There were double bladed daggers in history as well as multiblade knives. Also the wolverine claw does have a net disadvantage in having 3 even length claws. It distributes the force across larger surface area meaning it will wreck its cutting/stabbing potential. A better idea would be the Indian push dagger.
@damianmorningstar3150
@damianmorningstar3150 2 жыл бұрын
multibladed weapons like that's only advantage is that it is a pain to stitch those wounds together
@Maninawig
@Maninawig 2 жыл бұрын
1. The tekkogaki was a farming tool, sharpened to scratch and tear at armour, with the tips, but moreso kept flat horizontally to use that distribution as an advantage to swat away samurai blades.
@Jorvalt
@Jorvalt 2 жыл бұрын
Distributing the force is in most cases not an advantage. You're going to get deeper wounds using a single blade as opposed to 2 or 3 simultaneously.
@ShackleYT
@ShackleYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jorvalt the advantage here is that you have 3 blades to block other bladed weapons with the back of your hand or to catch the sword and break it off. (think batman begins) this was an actual thing taken advantage of with weapons like the sword breaker dagger or the tekko kagi. it's just that the guy in the video has no idea
@marcusfridh8489
@marcusfridh8489 2 жыл бұрын
I feel, with the claws, it could be a decent weapon if the claws were fullt straight and with a false functional edge in the back, like a speartip
@stapuft
@stapuft 2 жыл бұрын
when going through culinary school we had multiple sets of "claws" that we used when dealing with ice blocks, one specifically we used at the end of the day to destroy the sculptures, and it looked a hell of a lot like those wolverene claws, just, without the skulls and crap, they worked rather well for destroying those sculptures. and it was loads of fun to do. before anyone asks, we were legally required to break up the ice sculptures into chunks no larger than golf balls, so that people couldnt come steal them, and do serious damage with them, if we didn't, and someone did, WE would have been responsible for the damages.
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you would have been responsible for what some idiot decided to do all on their own... Just love how that works. Awesome.
@stapuft
@stapuft 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaos_omega IKR, its some insanity, for sure, but, just imagine the headlines, "ice swan destroys car, and causes massive pileup on US 1, 4 dead and dozens injured." like.....even if we wouldn't be held legally responsible, we would have known it was one of our sculptures, so we would have been morally obligated to report that to the cops, and give them the security footage, and then our school would be in the news, for bad stuff, which would give the school a bad name, even though the school and the students didn't have anything to do with it... its better all around to avoid all that, be it a legal requirement or not....IMO anyway.
@kianhaynes23
@kianhaynes23 2 жыл бұрын
@@stapuft theres only one thing missig from that headline, 'Florida man-...'
@brandonfoley7519
@brandonfoley7519 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me more? Has this happened before? How big are your sculptures usually I just can't understand how an ice sculpture is considered dangerous when I could cause some serious damage with a steel chair
@stapuft
@stapuft 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonfoley7519 yeah man, these things start out as multi hundred pound SOLID blocks of ice, the size of a older child (about 4 feet tall) and at the end of the process, most of the height, and loads of the weight remains, its just distributed differently, and shaped to look like a swan, or whatever., even at the end of the day when they have melted considerably, they STILL weigh more than 50-75 pounds, thats the weight of MULTIPLE concrete cinder blocks, that much weight, dropping 20+ feet off of an overpass would do serious damage to any vehicle it hits, and could very well kill anyone inside said vehicle, not to mention the pileup that the random wreck would cause due to the traffic all going about the same speed, crammed together, and not having time to react, put all that together and you elevate it from one life lost to many lost and potentially hundreds injured. single rocks smaller than a cinder block have cause events of a similar nature, and people have also done it with cinder blocks, spare tires, microwaves, all it takes is something heavy, falling from a height enough that it builds up speed in the fall, and pretty much no matter what it is, it could cause some serious damage. and that is the reason that many overpasses have a large fence over the top of them, to prevent not only people jumping, but also people dropping things off.
@lastwymsi
@lastwymsi 2 жыл бұрын
The hook on the Kopesh is not for striking, its was used for hooking and yanking away shields or weapons. Although you can rotate it around a head and get some interesting hit points using its shape.
@PersonOfRandomnesss
@PersonOfRandomnesss 2 жыл бұрын
Unironically the sequel I've been waiting for. This is a great series.
@xaviergill672
@xaviergill672 2 жыл бұрын
Bro same! Best vids they make
@cranfill
@cranfill 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! That's great to hear and yes we definitely have more coming.
@tuffjiggly8566
@tuffjiggly8566 2 жыл бұрын
Forget the mall ninja, I prefer the plaza paladin
@michaelcrosby6703
@michaelcrosby6703 2 жыл бұрын
What about the "Food Court Cleric"??
@nclementi3736
@nclementi3736 2 жыл бұрын
or the drugstore druid
@dracoargentum9783
@dracoargentum9783 2 жыл бұрын
Bed, Bard and Beyond?
@Sejikan
@Sejikan 2 жыл бұрын
Sam's club samurai
@antigrav6004
@antigrav6004 2 жыл бұрын
Red tag rogue
@TheQue5tion
@TheQue5tion 2 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed there was no mention of ThunderCats when looking at the dragon sword. Clearly it's supposed to be like the Eye Of Omens.
@TheRealAlpha2
@TheRealAlpha2 2 жыл бұрын
The sheath for that sword seems easily a better weapon than the sword itself.
@PobortzaPl
@PobortzaPl 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Finally somebody wrote that!
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega 2 жыл бұрын
That was my thought as well. Basically one solid piece, it would make a decent baton as far as I can tell.
@AquaticHydra
@AquaticHydra 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have a few things from the set this sword is from. The sheath is a few mm thicker aluminum than a soda can, dropped it on a stair a few feet off the ground and it bent. There is a dagger that matches it though, which is about 50% thicker than the sword and has been kind of a go-to pocket knife when I don't have anything else nearby.
@alexcunningham2037
@alexcunningham2037 2 жыл бұрын
If it's anything like the version of that sword I once had. The blade is attached in the handle just below the "guard" and it's not even a good solid connection. It snapped off and the blade came flying out of the handle lol. Not even a full pin.
@sewer_rat
@sewer_rat 2 жыл бұрын
My brother has one of those, its heavy as shit. You could easily kill someone with it.
@benben9794
@benben9794 2 жыл бұрын
In all reality I’m waiting for Jason to find that one shop that sells shields and like semi legitimate sharp video game swords that we have all seen but never bought and always wondered how they stay open cause no one ever buys anything there
@josephpotter5766
@josephpotter5766 2 жыл бұрын
because it's probably a front for your local 'phet dealer... if they're anything like the ones that used to be around where I lived.
@Fulbor
@Fulbor 2 жыл бұрын
I worked in a nerd merch store in germany called elbenwald, sold a giant game of thrones or LOTR sword every 1-2 weeks
@magoshighlands4074
@magoshighlands4074 2 жыл бұрын
For those wolverine esque claws there is an actual real life equivalent! (Sort of) They're called Bagh nakhs which roughly translates to "Fist-Load" or "Tiger's claw", a pair of rings go over your index and pinkie finger, the claws on the inside of your hard, the curve following your fingers, they were most famously used by various assassin's who loaded them with poisons, however they were often used by certain Sikh groups as a weapon that could be easily hidden in their turbans, and women of these groups were encouraged to carry them while traveling in dangerous areas for self protection, there were also certain forms of wrestling that used them and these when properly sharpened were brutally effective, especially when targets at areas like the neck, arm pits, inner thighs and gut, which combined with certain Indian martial arts makes them very effective weapons!
@kennethjames9999
@kennethjames9999 2 жыл бұрын
Also tekko kagi
@jnsdroid
@jnsdroid 2 жыл бұрын
Another plus side to the Legally Distinct Batarang (TM) is the same philosophy behind 2 sided axes for woodsmen .... One "main" side is used and abused, the secondary "reserve" side is honed to a sharper angle for fine woodworkin You could have a "who gives a shit slash 'em and get away/screwdriver" *and* an "emergency surgery scalpel sharp" side all in the same knife Please ignore that Swiss Army Knives already exist And that I (TM)'d a thing I already said was legally distinct
@verylostdoommarauder
@verylostdoommarauder 2 жыл бұрын
Why is no one talking about how golden the line about the "Things Remembered Spear" is? Weapons with phrases like "Greatest Stepdad Ever" engraved in them is straight out of Discworld.
@TheMNWolf
@TheMNWolf 2 жыл бұрын
The khopesh thing looks like someone cut a bad tattoo out of sheet metal.
@scottr2112
@scottr2112 2 жыл бұрын
Re: the Batman knife... He says that he's never seen anything like that as a historical weapon. But it's actually very similar to a Haladie. And there is another name for it as well (outside of Sudan) but I can't remember it at the moment. So there is actually a historical precedent for fighting with a 2-bladed dagger/knife like that.
@GameTimeWhy
@GameTimeWhy 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was surprised that a "weapons expert" would not know that.
@dangerszewski9816
@dangerszewski9816 2 жыл бұрын
@@GameTimeWhy I was also surprised that when they asked it the claws had a historical precedent he didn't mention either the bagh nakh or shuko. His focus is European, so it's not entirely unexpected but there's clear historical precedent for a clawlike weapon.
@GameTimeWhy
@GameTimeWhy 2 жыл бұрын
@@dangerszewski9816 yeah I understand his focus is European but that he doesn't seem to know anything about other cultural weapons is strange. Like even playing dnd or a lot of video games introduces us to different weapons that are used by other cultures.
@sophisticatedbear3374
@sophisticatedbear3374 2 жыл бұрын
Or the Lujiaodāo (deer horn knives)
@sophisticatedbear3374
@sophisticatedbear3374 2 жыл бұрын
@@GameTimeWhy weapons expert as in how to use them....a swordsman, not an historian
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega 2 жыл бұрын
There is a historical precedent for the double ended knife; the haladie, a weapon of ancient Syria and India
@zeekeno823
@zeekeno823 2 жыл бұрын
I said the same. India tended to have a lot of the oddball weapons, huh?
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeekeno823 Absolutely. I love stuff like the katar, patta, madu and bagh nakh
@bentrieschmann
@bentrieschmann 2 жыл бұрын
I said the same, but for got its name.
@SirJakeriePippin
@SirJakeriePippin 2 жыл бұрын
Also the deer horn knife or Crescent moon knife. although they are a bit different.
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega 2 жыл бұрын
@@SirJakeriePippin Well, those are Chinese. But, they are in no short supply of bizarre weapons either! Hook swords, for example. Weird, but cool.
@TheQue5tion
@TheQue5tion 2 жыл бұрын
That Kopesh looking sword, it's a pizza cutter. The other end is also supposed to have something on it to keep your hands safe. Then you use it like those pizza cutters that make a pizza look like it's made from slices taken from different pizzas.
@aztolfoz
@aztolfoz 2 жыл бұрын
So... A mezzaluna? Ideal for mincing herbs and other stuff
@smuledude5054
@smuledude5054 2 жыл бұрын
It's the hook for redirecting weapons the moon looking part on the hilt was XD ironically eye gougers the bladed part well what blades do and yes the hand area is for punching and if your good enough drive the hook down to the side coming back with the blade then driving the moon to your possibly dazed and now heavily injured enemy your welcome
@szepi79
@szepi79 2 жыл бұрын
it is the sword of Diana (from League of Legends.) i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/7b/04/f97b04bc2222c820d94876239bc80cba.png
@OldfieldFan1
@OldfieldFan1 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who works at Spencers, they nailed the aesthetic, but I wish it was as exciting as this.
@jungleman3321
@jungleman3321 2 жыл бұрын
See these sorts of things at my local mall all the time and always think to myself: "Who would ever buy one of those?" Of course you guys do and I love watching you rag on them for entire episodes. 🤣 Keep 'em coming!
@johntabor809
@johntabor809 2 жыл бұрын
the hooked end of the Egyptian sword was ment for hooking shields to create a opening in combat
@stapuft
@stapuft 2 жыл бұрын
IDC, i want 10 of them finger blades, made into a set of two gauntlets, like actual gauntlets, with mail and leather glove bits to protect your palms. don't care if its not really functional, it would look cool as hell.
@McLovinRamirez
@McLovinRamirez 2 жыл бұрын
so 2 sided knives actually were used in india. they were called haladie, although the blades weren't curved in the same direction like the batblade
@sophisticatedbear3374
@sophisticatedbear3374 2 жыл бұрын
Deer horn knives were double sided and indeed curved forward.
@ghostking6838
@ghostking6838 2 жыл бұрын
so the claw type weapon (3rd in vid) there is an Eastern counterpart called Kama-Tora (Bladed tiger) and its entire style its based around slashes
@Azmodon
@Azmodon 2 жыл бұрын
which also inspired the tekko style weapons to incorporate claws, hence the tekko-kagi
@shadow306k
@shadow306k 2 жыл бұрын
That weird curved sword/Kopesh looking thing reminds me a lot of the sword used by Diana from League of Legends, probably a low quality replica?
@KiraDidNothingWrong
@KiraDidNothingWrong 2 жыл бұрын
It's a painfully bad and down scaled replica yes
@chrisdobbs9155
@chrisdobbs9155 2 жыл бұрын
It's overly exaggerated but it is the form of an actual bladed weapon that was used for real. Kind of disappointing to see an "expert" pick it up and describe it as it it's not the most real and effective thing he's used yet. Makes me question your expert. Yup. just got to the point where he's claiming real steel swords don't flex smh. Someone sit this dude down and have him watch some forged in fire, so maybe it'll at leas sound like he knows what he's talking about.
@Strlz_Remtachi
@Strlz_Remtachi 2 жыл бұрын
it's supposed to be a 3rd of a average human size scale... the handle is supposed to be the length of her fore arm and held by the back of the arm to prevent stabing herself
@SerPhatDhab
@SerPhatDhab 3 ай бұрын
@@chrisdobbs9155 Homie you have no idea what you are talking about. Knew that the moment I saw you bring up "Forged in FIre" lmao
@austinhale5699
@austinhale5699 2 жыл бұрын
If you swing hard enough, all those weapons can be effective! I know cause I watched all the movies with swords in it. Especially the ones with the people in silver armor.
@TheRealAlpha2
@TheRealAlpha2 2 жыл бұрын
Anything is a hammer if you try hard enough.
@cagethelonewolf
@cagethelonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
I love how concerning Anthony gets holding the batarang as if some secret blade is gonna jump out and get em
@dragonpjb
@dragonpjb 2 жыл бұрын
"Sword of Omens give me sight beyond sight!"
@meatybtz
@meatybtz 2 жыл бұрын
The claws are at least based on actual ancient weapons from India which had 3 bladed claws and single short sword like blade "gloves". But India kind of took the cake for strange ancient weapons such as the belt sword (flexible sword) or the jointed sword or segmented one. The problem with the mall ninja version is that it doesn't actually match an effective design with too much space, wrong angles and poor support. The Kopesh hook, not that mall ninja one, but real ones were for hooking or locking enemy spears, weapons or to pull shields. Done on the backswing rather than rotate the blade itself, though they could have, I suppose, not really too much direct writing about Kopesh's use in the historic period of use in Egypt. We just kind of have to interpret the drawings on tombs and various artworks of the era.
@sophisticatedbear3374
@sophisticatedbear3374 2 жыл бұрын
Well there's also the tekko kagi which were claw like weapons fashioned from horseshoes in japan.
@camejko
@camejko 2 жыл бұрын
Anthony is my favorite honorary MR member
@kylestonebraker3050
@kylestonebraker3050 2 жыл бұрын
I understand. Hopefully the fight made those dippin' dots worth it.
@irealylikecheese2515
@irealylikecheese2515 2 жыл бұрын
Brian looks like he is going to go back to spikes!
@dreadofknight4739
@dreadofknight4739 2 жыл бұрын
for the khopesh the rear point is for pulling not pushing
@tortle6497
@tortle6497 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all need to try the rouges tattoo style:stick and pokes
@cranfill
@cranfill 2 жыл бұрын
Yup that's on the list of episodes we want to do.
@isaactanner5041
@isaactanner5041 2 жыл бұрын
Actual Cory Cranfill! Let's go!
@jamesmachuta2010
@jamesmachuta2010 2 жыл бұрын
when I saw there was a hole in the middle of the sword hilt I immediately saw the image of Brian holding it in front of his face saying, "sword of dragons give me sight Beyond sight Beyond sight"
@mike7277
@mike7277 2 жыл бұрын
The Khopesh looks like it is styled after League of Legends' Diana, Scorn of the Moon.
@AurumAquila
@AurumAquila 2 жыл бұрын
There is actually historical precedent for the wolverine claw thing. The Neko-Te, meaning cat hand was used by actual ninja, They were mostly used as a climbing tool for getting over castle walls but I imagine they could be used for self defense in a pinch.
@samuelrudy1776
@samuelrudy1776 2 жыл бұрын
I would love for one of these videos they throw in a zombies tools survival blade
@riuphane
@riuphane 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always, can't wait for the next one!!! As a note, the kopesh was designed specifically to counter the Roman sword and shield combo (or at least that's the common story), so the "hook" on the back of the blade (which is way over pronounced in that design) would have been used to pull the edge of their shield to create an opening and/or throw their opponent off balance. I'm not sure about the validity of any of this, but did think it was worth noting considering his comment that he wasn't familiar with the weapon... I'm sure someone knows more and will add/correct.
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the khopesh predates the Roman gladius/scutum combo. Though, tall shields like that were in use for quite a while in the ancient world, so it need not be Romans it was designed for. I'm pretty sure the Romans adapted it from another culture, like they did with so many things!
@FellsApprentice
@FellsApprentice 2 жыл бұрын
The kopesh is close to a thousand years predating the Roman empire
@MichaelPenaRiderKick
@MichaelPenaRiderKick 2 жыл бұрын
These look like weapons you’d buy in Dragon Quest
@Earthenfist
@Earthenfist 2 жыл бұрын
On that first Reaver claw thing, the swordsman is WRONG! There ARE ring knives! They can be found in the Lake Turkana region of Africa- many have sideways blades, but some (there is one in particular on page 22 of DK's "Arms and Armour" Eyewitness book) are in-line with the finger like this one. Edit-add: Okay, apparently this'll be for a lot of them. Historical precedent for the two-sided dagger- there's a LOT. Fakir's horns, also the Haladie, which was featured on Forged in Fire, coming from India. The Wolverine claws, historically, could be linked, as they say, to Katars of various kinds, but also the 'tiger claw' Bagh Nakh, though that's a much shorter, palm-held weapon. Takti-cool Khopesh... Why. _Why?_ And of course the Sword-Shaped-Object. Which is some sort of unholy combination of tulwar, katana, and grosse messer?
@sophisticatedbear3374
@sophisticatedbear3374 2 жыл бұрын
The wolverine claws are more like tekko kagi than katars.
@sophisticatedbear3374
@sophisticatedbear3374 2 жыл бұрын
Also swordsman....not historian. He's an expert weapon handler...he merely knows how to use them.
@sophisticatedbear3374
@sophisticatedbear3374 2 жыл бұрын
Also the knifes of turkana aren't anything at all like the ring knife here. They are completely different in the way they are worn and the direction and blade is used. They share as many similarities as any katana and a urumi...both are held in the hand....thats it. So saying they're no historical president with the ring knife as it is here is accurate.
@sophisticatedbear3374
@sophisticatedbear3374 2 жыл бұрын
Also sword shaped object. I assume your logic was a tulwar handle, it has a clip point like a katana......how did you get Grosse Messer exactly?
@Codebreakerblue
@Codebreakerblue 2 жыл бұрын
_please_ do the pedal kart jousting episode that sounds incredible
@MacAisling
@MacAisling 2 жыл бұрын
That first claw thing is basically an oversized thread cutter ring, so potentially more highly specialized tool than weapon. Armoring just one finger seems to be a really weird flex, like showing your status by letting your fingernails grow ridiculously long to demonstrate just how little you have to do for yourself.
@Nedyarg1100
@Nedyarg1100 2 жыл бұрын
-$10 +$5 is not like getting paid... it's like spending $5 🤔
@t.j.armendariz354
@t.j.armendariz354 2 жыл бұрын
The dragon sword is giving me fencing foil vibes in its flexibility
@Ithirahad
@Ithirahad 2 жыл бұрын
...Right until your attempt at fencing is foiled by the thing snapping.
@Messerschmidt109
@Messerschmidt109 2 жыл бұрын
Now make the mall dragon sword into an actual sword
@JD2jr.
@JD2jr. 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! came here to suggest the same thing. He says it's comfortable, get someone who knows what they're doing to hole out the handle and add in a real blade. See if you can make that one useful.
@A1phaWolf150
@A1phaWolf150 21 күн бұрын
Given his explanations, it looks like if you just remade the same sword out of actual metal, it’d be really good.
@nickbutler9831
@nickbutler9831 2 жыл бұрын
That kopesh is actually decently useful. Other than the poky but back at you and the balance, which can be fixed by a real smith making it, the hooked point can easily control people and weapons
@DirectionallyChallenged
@DirectionallyChallenged 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a sequel series where you guys try to improve the designs of the mall weapons to make them useful
@axelskull
@axelskull 2 жыл бұрын
the answer to everything is make it a normal knife/sword
@DirectionallyChallenged
@DirectionallyChallenged 2 жыл бұрын
@@axelskull I feel like you could make them useful without making them into a typical knife/sword. Like the wolverine claws, change the handle shape so it fits better, make the blades a bit thicker/sturdier, change the blade shape a bit to make it better for stabbing/slashing that sort of thing.
@jaxman682
@jaxman682 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching a lot of forged in fire, and there is a historical precedent for a couple of stuff. Like the double bladed batman knife looks similar to a thing called Deer Horn Knives. Then the skull claw thing is similar to a Katar and such. Then yeah, Khopesh blade, just poorly made and Anthony admitted he didn't know much about them. Then again last sword similar to a number of swords but poorly made.
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 2 жыл бұрын
2:40 It's not just a razor, the point on the fingertip helps when picking your nose, too!
@sirpikapika1129
@sirpikapika1129 2 жыл бұрын
That 3-hot-topic thing looks like a highly exaggerated gut-hook knife
@jessebessette7619
@jessebessette7619 2 жыл бұрын
That double ended Batman knife is similar to the Syrian/Indian knife called a haladie. They were double ended, curved daggers used by the Rajput.
@elysiumsexsmith
@elysiumsexsmith 2 жыл бұрын
The difference being that with a haladie, the edges curve in opposite directions making it possible to use both blades without having to adust one's grip. The edges on the Batman knife both curve inwards, meaning having to flip the grip in the hand before being able to use the other blade -- a small yet significant difference in the two designs that make one useful in combat and the other...less so.
@jessebessette7619
@jessebessette7619 2 жыл бұрын
@@elysiumsexsmith I was more responding to the fact that Anthony said he wasn't aware of any historical knives with two blades like that.
@komodobadger3687
@komodobadger3687 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love an episode of getting all these trashy mall weapons and seeing who can construct the best working weapon from them
@Fade2GrayOG
@Fade2GrayOG 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I've come full circle. The first mall weapon episode was my first Modern Rogue video.
@jimf1007
@jimf1007 2 жыл бұрын
Thus is my first vid I've watched from them.
@jasonmoore710
@jasonmoore710 2 жыл бұрын
The Khopesh... if it had another handle in place of the "inside blade point", it'd make a kinda neat "decorative-ish" pizza cutter.....
@MrV4nd4l
@MrV4nd4l 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, Anthony went from fit to SWOLE
@Sporkmeister
@Sporkmeister 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the sword material discussion come back up when the group is presented with a quality spring steel sword. While 440 stainless is a terrible sword material, ability to bend isn't the problem....
@TheBigburcie
@TheBigburcie 2 жыл бұрын
440 is a common steel for pocket knives. It can be sharpened but will lose its edge over time. I'm not sure how well it would really deal with the physics of swordplay.
@Sheridantank
@Sheridantank 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigburcie A full tang 440 sword can be decent as like a " *almost* battle ready" sword. Probably want something good for thrusting where edge retention isn't important. The flexibility might make a good rapier. 440 might also make a *decent* gladius style blade as it's mainly a trust weapon. (Strong emphasis on almost/decent
@custosnox
@custosnox 2 жыл бұрын
Had a 440 katana back in the 90s. It'll never stand up against good steel, but it took the abuse fairly well. 440 isn't as bad as he made it out, and stainless doesn't make it a bad blade that's going to shatter. Lots of high quality blades made out of stainless, just not 440.
@MrGrimsmith
@MrGrimsmith 2 жыл бұрын
A degree of chromium carbide actually helps edge retention as it's a harder material than just carbon steel. It does, however, make it a bigger task to sharpen so it's a trade off. Not sure about using it in a sword though as it typically doesn't flex that much.
@AquaticHydra
@AquaticHydra 2 жыл бұрын
Having that sword, and actually seeing how it responded to the thrusts, I'm entirely shocked it survived. He didnt do justice explaining how wobbly the blade is out of the box. There is no way its actually glued in, most likely just flares out at the end like a nail with the grip molded around it.
@tommyfox854
@tommyfox854 2 жыл бұрын
The first mall ninja weapon in this video *could* work if the blade was on the tip of the reaver claw rather than as the worlds' weirdest brass knuckle.
@bdcs9752
@bdcs9752 2 жыл бұрын
the two edge knife one is actually real and pretty common from asia to Africa because with a knife you can to a back swing afterwards
@xMrBlack
@xMrBlack 2 жыл бұрын
The Haladie is a double-edged dagger from ancient Syria and India, consisting of two curved blades, each approximately 8.5 inches (22 cm) in length, attached to a single hilt. Tekko Kagi were historical claw weapons from Japan. Th hook on the Khopesh isn't for attacks its for pulling obstructions out of the way of your attack.
@GameTimeWhy
@GameTimeWhy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised how little the "expert" knows. maybe he's hyper specialized.
@xMrBlack
@xMrBlack 2 жыл бұрын
@@GameTimeWhy I mean, I think they only called him a "swordsmith" or maybe bladesmith. That just means he makes at least 1 kind if blade or sword. Not really that he knows anything about them other than their construction. No historical or functional use knowledge required. If he was just judging construction from a practical point of view it would be one thing, but almost anyone can do that without any real experience.
@idiotbutransrights
@idiotbutransrights 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen y'all in my feed for a while glad to see yalls
@lucillefrancois150
@lucillefrancois150 2 жыл бұрын
So about the kopesh, they were built and used more similarly to axes than swords despite how they look. Bronze weapons were built to be fairly thick and durable since bronze was more malleable than steel, thus will bend more easily, though while still being basically completely useable if it does. This made bronze more or less unusuable as a sword material. The mall kopesh is still obviously not good, but it seems worse than it is because it looks unlike how it should be used
@BeginningGenesis
@BeginningGenesis 2 жыл бұрын
First claw one would be good in addition to gauntlets while holding a sword, more so less bladed more piercing, like going sword to sword and then being able to stab from like pressure of only 3 inches away would be sick utility
@badnewsbruner
@badnewsbruner 2 жыл бұрын
Dude.... This is the video I didn't know I needed. Easy sub!! You guys rock!! Excellent broadcaster voice on the man in the go to hell hat too, btw. Also, Bad Dudes is still the GOAT.
@JudithOpdebeeck
@JudithOpdebeeck 2 жыл бұрын
i sincerely hope this is episode 2 of many, because everything about this is awesome
@restorer19
@restorer19 2 жыл бұрын
We need a feature-length version that includes hiding out in the Sears to make modifications before confronting Kyle. Easter eggs: John Dagger 2 movie poster, and motivational quote at the B&BW - "When life gives you two stabby ends, make them one big stabby end." - Seamus MacLaymore
@jek__
@jek__ 2 жыл бұрын
"Give me your attack roll" lol. You guys should invite Anthony when you do your D&D campaign. And maybe those guys from the Beerists, they seem like nerds
@The_Split-Decision
@The_Split-Decision 3 ай бұрын
Why does he look like he's waiting for someone to challenge him to fence the whole time😂
@garjonalpha
@garjonalpha 2 жыл бұрын
10:24 -- Yeah, Murphy, some viking is going to get the skulls of four squirrels to put on his gauntlet. Very Scary.
@Verdictus13
@Verdictus13 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna need that kiddie hotwheels jousting episode.
@actuallyasriel
@actuallyasriel Жыл бұрын
10:09 There actually *is* historical precedent for that style of claw weapon, although it's pretty niche; the tekko-kagi are a modified form of tekko, which were threshing tools weaponized by Japanese ninja. Tekko-kagi were improvised weapons, and how effective they would have been is definitely up for debate, but they did exist! Feels outside of Anthony's port of call though, which is understandable.
@velazquezarmouries
@velazquezarmouries 2 жыл бұрын
In defense of the batman knife there's actually a historical precedent for something similar in india And the japanese Tekko Kagi for the claws
@captainpanda5533
@captainpanda5533 2 жыл бұрын
I really wanna see Anthony test a bat'leth.
@TheRealAlpha2
@TheRealAlpha2 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I remember Shadiversity doing an episode on the bat'leth and saying it was a horrible weapon.
@rondoiron6907
@rondoiron6907 2 жыл бұрын
They have had the double blades in history before, but it takes training to use properly. The kopesh is a slicing/ chopping weapon ment to take off limbs.
@jacksonsnellgrove9399
@jacksonsnellgrove9399 2 жыл бұрын
There is an actual use for something similar to the finger blade: opening boxes in a warehouse
@slademassie6305
@slademassie6305 2 жыл бұрын
At 6:55 seconds the historical precedence for a double blade knife can be found in China with the Deer Horn Knives... not saying it worked well, just that it was used in war.
@CaptChang
@CaptChang 2 жыл бұрын
The finger thing somewhat resembles what a Qing Dynasty noble woman would wear as decoration.
@jaykerivan6071
@jaykerivan6071 2 жыл бұрын
440 is used aot in budget knives(rough ryder and marbles uses 440) aswell as case usses a variant of it, but for a longer blade its not ideal because of the hih chrome content 5160 spring steel which is a 5000 series, or 1075 is decent for swords steel.
@trevorpartain3815
@trevorpartain3815 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. The klingon Bet'leth talk was funny to hear. it's the Kopesh looking blade. the back point, or bottle opener as they call it, was meant for catching on the back swing, similar to how a Nordic bearded axe was meant to catch and toss shields out of the way.
@sebastijanglozinic8630
@sebastijanglozinic8630 24 күн бұрын
Ah yes! The terrifying signature weapon of the ancient Egyptian mall ninjas.
@VNSnake1999
@VNSnake1999 2 жыл бұрын
Really happy to see Anthony back. You guys should do more European martial arts with those guys.
@obi501
@obi501 Жыл бұрын
I'm loving the irony of someone using a batman knife to mug someone
@ThornForTheWynn
@ThornForTheWynn 2 жыл бұрын
One downside for the Wolverine claws is that it distributes to force differently. Stabbing them three times is actually worse. Basically the bed of nails deal.
@connor1586
@connor1586 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder what carnage would be wrought if they sharpened them beforehand
@baddrayko3040
@baddrayko3040 2 жыл бұрын
For the Khopesh style sword, the hook in the Khopesh's design was for hooking at the rim of your opponent's shield to pull them, or catching their ankle to pull out from under them, not for a primary attack
@zeekeno823
@zeekeno823 2 жыл бұрын
There was a weapon from India that was basically similar to the Batman knife.
@adamastzimens2395
@adamastzimens2395 2 жыл бұрын
That was a R or L handed pocket knife, for a low key princess bride knife fight.
@spearbreaker6346
@spearbreaker6346 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to point out for the historical precedence of the "wolverine claws," there is a Japanese actual ninja weapon called Tekko-Kagi. Which are almost exactly that. Claws extending from the back of the hand. Though I think they were originally farming/weeding tools? I'm no expert so I could be wrong but I know a lot of ninja tools were preexisting tools of differing purpose.
@SaltNBattery
@SaltNBattery 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy isn't an expert.
@jahrn6
@jahrn6 2 жыл бұрын
In defense of that Batman knife: There is historical use of weapons like that! The Haladie for example is similar in concept en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haladie The Vajra-Mushti is more like a knuckleduster, but still some of those had actual blades like this Batman knife en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajra-mushti Also some Karambit has dual blades instead of one blade and one ring
@andrewrobinson4019
@andrewrobinson4019 2 жыл бұрын
John Dagger and Keith Spear never did settle the “one pointy end” vs. “two pointy ends” debate did they?
@davidblomdahl5518
@davidblomdahl5518 2 жыл бұрын
"Can you imagine mugging someone?" Fuck no i can't, I knew he was troubled.
@RyllenKriel
@RyllenKriel 2 жыл бұрын
You guys really have outdone yourselves. I have never seen shittier mall ninja weapons than these. They are amazing! I am not sure I could stop laughing long enough to pay the cashier if I had to buy them for this video.
@I_am_ENSanity
@I_am_ENSanity 2 жыл бұрын
Actually used the skeleton claws on a watermelon once......hurt the absolute hell out of my wrists. Stabbing was fine but slashing was god awful!
@DeaconCanle
@DeaconCanle 2 жыл бұрын
Look up the haladie, it's an Indian double dagger that at least some of the versions of it were combat intended from their appearance. But this is also the culture that brought us the katar, chakram, and the whip sword, so actual effectiveness and usage is questionable.
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega 2 жыл бұрын
Katar is an effective sidearm/off-hand weapon. Some weapons just need the right context. Chakram I view like shuriken, not necessarily deadly, but can work as a distraction. The urumi whip sword though... I feel it is better used for displays of skill or intimidation factor.
@DeaconCanle
@DeaconCanle 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaos_omega I personally love the idea of a Katar. But having seen multiple weapon experts both modern and historical break down the effectiveness and biokinetic functionality of it, consensus seems to be it was a less effective dagger that had to be strapped to your arm. If Indian culture didn't have daggers that were amazingly designed for both thrusting and slashing, that would also have been easier and cheaper to make, I could believe it was their version of a dagger. But they do exist so no real point in a Katar. As for the chakram Adam Celadin actually thinks they are more effective than shuriken as they are blade all around and were, in general, heavier than shuriken so they carried good impact. Keep in mind I am not an expert in any of this, just an enthusiast, I am drawing from experts but might have misunderstood something.
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeaconCanle I wouldn't say it is a less effective dagger, but less versatile. I feel it would certainly be effective at the job of thrusting attacks while in close quarters (especially if you have good punching technique.) It was widely used by the rajput AFAIK, so I don't believe it would be carried at all if it were that much worse than a dagger of some kind. Perhaps as a status symbol it remained popular, despite being less versatile than a dagger (which can be used as a tool as well.) As for chakram, I agree with those points, however they are still not something I would rely on as deadly, so you would have to be prepared for them to function only as a distraction for your next attack. I am no expert either, I only have a few years of experience in martial arts (including HEMA.) These are just speculations based on that and historical research. TBH, I need to get the training katar from Purpleheart and test it out in sparring/fencing. Edit: I don't believe katar were strapped, but I could be wrong.
@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285
@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 2 жыл бұрын
The thing with the Khopesh is that the interior spike on the blade is there for hooking a weapon or shield in order to open up your opponents guard as opposed to "I'm going to stab you with this!" The moon pommel thing though is a god damn crime.
@Pennywise12528
@Pennywise12528 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, I still have that cruddy dragon sword laying around from my teenage days. The blade truly was the most terrible thing even compared to other mall swords, the best chance to theoretically defend yourself with that would be to throw away the sword and thwack them with the sheath.
@zombiepanda5768
@zombiepanda5768 2 жыл бұрын
That ring is used for cosplay. Take a hammer hit the back of the "blade" to knock it out because the "blade" is just glued in
@nwmancuso
@nwmancuso 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like this even more if they spent 30mins making modifications and sharpening these.
@MiWill1988
@MiWill1988 2 жыл бұрын
For the next one start the video with Anthony emptying his pockets and rating his pocket gear as weapons. Than rank the mall ninja weapons against his pocket gear as an effective weapon
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