mamamoo vs blackpink ( kpop battle )

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@dolce.luna08
@dolce.luna08 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo only disadvantage is the connections in western scene and they can’t speak english. Other than that, they are all amazing
@heraluv5927
@heraluv5927 3 жыл бұрын
Why they can't connect western countries? They have western fans, right
@dolce.luna08
@dolce.luna08 3 жыл бұрын
@@heraluv5927 they belong to a small company so maybe lesser connections with entertainment people from the West. :(
@heraluv5927
@heraluv5927 3 жыл бұрын
@@dolce.luna08 ohh okk
@aprallyn3144
@aprallyn3144 3 жыл бұрын
@@heraluv5927 all mamamoo members can't speak english so it will be hard for them to promote themselves internationally. for example bts & blackpink, they have members that can speak english very well so they dont have any problem promoting in america. bts attended american award events plenty of times, they went to ellen shows, graham norton shows, jimmy kimmel, jimmy fallon, james corden while blackpink was promoted in stephen colbert shows, james corden shows & coachella. if mamamoo gets interviewed in america they would have a hard time communicating with the interviewer & fans
@aprallyn3144
@aprallyn3144 3 жыл бұрын
@@heraluv5927 but there's no denying that mamamoo is the one of the best kpop girl group out there. their vocals are just soooooo good!!!! they deserve to be big & popular for their talent
@lizonyuh2290
@lizonyuh2290 4 жыл бұрын
No one can compare to mamamoo because they aren't under their label's control like just about everyone else is. Also they weren't chosen with their looks in mind. They were chosen for their personalities, work and natural talents first.
@biaontwt
@biaontwt 4 жыл бұрын
Well, then it's not MMM Vs BP. It's RBW Vs YG because, well, MMM is able to express their talent more and be free, while BP has to follow strict choreographies and same structures of songs. This video made me kinda angry because they're different and can't be compared, this just started fanwars, nothing esle.
@shaktisikha1615
@shaktisikha1615 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo is mamamoo because they are able to show themselves freely That you cant do in big company. So you should be happy about that
@devanshirathod7208
@devanshirathod7208 4 жыл бұрын
But blackpink compare to mamamoo so win is blackpink because blackpink is Queen 😊😍
@janillymoon5642
@janillymoon5642 4 жыл бұрын
@@devanshirathod7208 that's your opinion and we accept that....but no! Not really
@berverlynorah6730
@berverlynorah6730 4 жыл бұрын
@@devanshirathod7208 bruh vanish,don’t start a fan war
@sophiauwu1486
@sophiauwu1486 4 жыл бұрын
K in k-pop stands for korean, and mamamoo is more than korean pop.
@ceydademirors_
@ceydademirors_ 4 жыл бұрын
No
@mamamoosolar7553
@mamamoosolar7553 4 жыл бұрын
Say it louder gurl so that the people in the back can hear u and just ignore those who said they aren't cuz they're fighting against what's right💚💚
@yumibernales39
@yumibernales39 4 жыл бұрын
@@ceydademirors_ true blackpink is only the queen
@thatpieceofdustonthefloor30
@thatpieceofdustonthefloor30 4 жыл бұрын
@@yumibernales39 I wouldn’t say the only queens since they’re only popular since they came from a big company when mamamoo built their own company from the ground
@princessmadylmejares2564
@princessmadylmejares2564 4 жыл бұрын
@@yumibernales39 Can I say talent is more amazing than popularity, and quick question have you seen their iconic performance but tbh all their performance is spectacular, they were underestimated before, but people regretted it (except for the haters ofc their just jealous🤗). Because of their amazing talent they became big. I'm not a hater of bp tbh they have what it takes to be a kpop idol and their songs are amazing, but MAMAMOO is more like an artist but they are idols that's why they are queens. Vocals✓ Rap✓ Visuals✓ Dance✓ Composers✓ Beagles✓ Etc. I can't list them all they are to many. I'll just get to the point they are QUEENS 👑
@sumansingh3134
@sumansingh3134 3 жыл бұрын
Moonbyul is definitely one of the best female rappers in kpop, her flow speaks for itself so smooth and works for her so good. Perfect.
@sumansingh3134
@sumansingh3134 3 жыл бұрын
ONCE AGAIN RAP IS NOT ABOUT SPEED BUT RHYTHM, POETRY AND FLOW. A RAPPER IS SOMEONE WHO WRITES AND PERFORMS.
@burcugezer866
@burcugezer866 2 жыл бұрын
not as much as lisa
@CosmicSelen3
@CosmicSelen3 2 жыл бұрын
@@burcugezer866 No.
@aufjedenfallabena
@aufjedenfallabena 2 жыл бұрын
@@burcugezer866 bro Stop being bias. You prob haven't even Heard of moonbyuls rap.
@ishikatiwari1132
@ishikatiwari1132 2 жыл бұрын
​@@sumansingh3134 and when you realise that moonbyul is most credited female raper of k-pop industry then what..🌚
@alexakie3433
@alexakie3433 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly knew blackpink bec of the rumours that they are like 2NE1. I just noticed their pretty and yeah cool music (pls don't come at me blinks, it's my preference). Then I met mamamoo, oh goodness, so much talent, visuals and versatility
@uwu_geisha3066
@uwu_geisha3066 4 жыл бұрын
so you are in older women? 😬
@alexakie3433
@alexakie3433 4 жыл бұрын
@@uwu_geisha3066 hmm why does my age concern you?
@uwu_geisha3066
@uwu_geisha3066 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexakie3433 read my msg again
@alexakie3433
@alexakie3433 4 жыл бұрын
@@uwu_geisha3066 huh? Your question is related to age "older women"
@uwu_geisha3066
@uwu_geisha3066 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexakie3433 mamamoo are older than bp thats why i asked are you into older women not are you an older women?
@blinkemama7593
@blinkemama7593 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo the best
@thehungergamer9793
@thehungergamer9793 4 жыл бұрын
@Nathalia Rafaella youre bias im Blink and Mamamoo but for me Mamamoo is the best in Vocal
@kaziafrahim5366
@kaziafrahim5366 4 жыл бұрын
@@thehungergamer9793 maybe 😴
@yoonaek
@yoonaek 4 жыл бұрын
@Nathalia Rafaella you sound so biased bye
@trishashetty8453
@trishashetty8453 4 жыл бұрын
Nope they all amazing
@ilikemyname7777
@ilikemyname7777 4 жыл бұрын
@Nathalia Rafaella mamamoo is better they make there own song strong vocal, strong rap
@Mass-produced
@Mass-produced 4 жыл бұрын
I think Wheein is more natural when it comes to dancing and she's way more versatile with dancing instead of just hip hop. Wheein actually rides the beat better.
@elmariajin7608
@elmariajin7608 2 жыл бұрын
I think so too Lisa is great but wheein needs to appreciated more Bro her basics are so good that she makes everything look like a piece of Cake I hope she can showcase her talent when it comes to dancing more
@elmariajin7608
@elmariajin7608 2 жыл бұрын
@Smorl um I clearly said Lisa is great I mean I am a dancer so I have seen a thousand dance videos of idols and I love the way most of them dance And yes wheein SHOULD Abe appreciated more considering the fact that she is talented because other idols who are this talented are like quite popular(no hate to them cause they have worked hard) and there are many idols who are not AS talented it still quite talented and are still very famous(again not a problem but I would like to see idols who are very talented but not popular gain popularity). And I think we all agree that the kpop community is toxic and biased so u know that fans just call their idols the best without thinking many times. Also some of my fav dancers in kpop are quite well known like MOMO,CHAERYOUNG,WHEEIN,YEHI,JIMIN,JHOPE.JIHYO,BOA,YEONJUN AND LEE KNOW
@elmariajin7608
@elmariajin7608 2 жыл бұрын
@kpop fan u done yet
@elmariajin7608
@elmariajin7608 2 жыл бұрын
@kpop fan oh wait u meant anyone who says otherwise is right. RIGHT?
@elmariajin7608
@elmariajin7608 2 жыл бұрын
@kpop fan i agree. I mean i respect bp but they are hella overrated and mamamoo is the opposite.
@ivylenzmelody5061
@ivylenzmelody5061 3 жыл бұрын
Wheein alone can take all girl groups out there, how much more all four of them. #MooMoo
@niceowl1175
@niceowl1175 3 жыл бұрын
True
@bellyresh
@bellyresh 3 жыл бұрын
Moonbyul alone the rapper can take them all. Lol
@user-gc7is6on8y
@user-gc7is6on8y 3 жыл бұрын
@@bellyresh yea true
@user-gc7is6on8y
@user-gc7is6on8y 3 жыл бұрын
@Lovely ☆ and u too being biased not looking at Mamamoo's talent
@user-gc7is6on8y
@user-gc7is6on8y 3 жыл бұрын
@Lovely ☆ I understand now ok
@aureliomanabat15
@aureliomanabat15 4 жыл бұрын
Im a blink and moo moo and i can say mamamoo is more superior. As much as I love BP, MMM has everything. They sing live without backing track because they know they have talent. they are comedians and have great personalitites. And most important they are not afraid to be themselves.
@animevibe2932
@animevibe2932 4 жыл бұрын
Black pink is the best forever
@aureliomanabat15
@aureliomanabat15 4 жыл бұрын
@@animevibe2932 Ok. :) Just saying... Mamamoo sings live...
@DJPandorax_Official
@DJPandorax_Official 4 жыл бұрын
@@aureliomanabat15 even BP sings live...
@aureliomanabat15
@aureliomanabat15 4 жыл бұрын
@@DJPandorax_Official sings live with proper control while dancing* watch mamamoo vs blackpink's mr removed video.
@DJPandorax_Official
@DJPandorax_Official 4 жыл бұрын
@@aureliomanabat15 Did you see Coachella??? And the BLACKPINK dances are more difficult than the MAMAMOO.... But yeah MAMAMOO sings live better than them, but you can't say that BP don't sing live, cuz it's untrue... There are many ceremonies where the artists mustn't use the backing track and you can see BP sing live (Encore exc) like MM.
@porrrnesianparrrapio6015
@porrrnesianparrrapio6015 4 жыл бұрын
Why do people underestimate mamamoo :( they are so talented and beautiful
@JeongYunho17
@JeongYunho17 4 жыл бұрын
@charliscolors no they’re talking about in general. Like everyone is so focused on BTS and blackpink that they don’t dare to look into mamamoo
@varshav7656
@varshav7656 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeongYunho17 yes true tho *_* if mamamoo were in big companies they would hv ruled kpop lyk blackpink and bts but still mamamoo built a small company rbw
@HanaGracia-gt3lt
@HanaGracia-gt3lt 4 жыл бұрын
@@varshav7656 Now RBW has become big and there are many idols from RBW such as Oneuos, purple kiss etc. But my opinion is that Mamamoo is better at RBW entertainment because they can determine their creography as much as they like, don't prohibit RBW Idols from dating, they can open their own KZbin channel like Solar
@varshav7656
@varshav7656 4 жыл бұрын
@@HanaGracia-gt3lt but still if RBW is a big company now it's much credit goes to mamamoo and their hard work towards their company ^__^
@dreamcatcher5654
@dreamcatcher5654 4 жыл бұрын
@@varshav7656 but BTS deserve whtever they are today they deserve their fame ... They have work so hard and still working plzz don't drag bts they deserve all the LOVE...
@zeynepoguz1940
@zeynepoguz1940 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't change Mamamoo to anyone. I think the best girl kpop group is very, very different from other girl groups .... Especially Moonbuyul's rap is very good
@soukainanasser5504
@soukainanasser5504 2 жыл бұрын
yes but soyeon is better im noot hating
@Chyna999
@Chyna999 2 жыл бұрын
@@soukainanasser5504 true
@HP-kb8fk
@HP-kb8fk 3 жыл бұрын
Blackpink brings me to Kpop but Mamamoo makes me stay. BP is full of talent and beauty, they are promoted in a proper way with the finest condition to reach to global market, thanks to them, I’ve got to know MMM and I’ll never ever regret for that. MMM is not only an idol girl group but an artist and every member is an artist themself, they are definitely talented, but the thing is their personality that let people fall in love and support them then never leave. MMM dares to show who they are that not every Kpop idol can do, they have great friendships and the bond among members is something must be admired. They may not have the best condition to get worldwide recognition as BP, of course it would be the greatest thing if they do, but right now they’ve come from a very long journey and reached to this stage, Moomoos must be proud of them, as I am and always Trust and Listen to Mamamoo. Respect MMM queens!
@ShaezdontlikeU
@ShaezdontlikeU 3 жыл бұрын
❤️
@jung_cook
@jung_cook 3 жыл бұрын
@💜Ashna purple paints💜 it's her choice if she want to stan the same group or listen to some other group
@jung_cook
@jung_cook 3 жыл бұрын
@💜Ashna purple paints💜 and being loyal doesn't mean you can't support another group......
@redloona1085
@redloona1085 3 жыл бұрын
@💜Ashna purple paints💜 its and opinion,he/her unstan blackpink,its his/her business,like you sayed.
@redloona1085
@redloona1085 3 жыл бұрын
@💜Ashna purple paints💜 and its not wrong to unstan a group
@jungggomo4904
@jungggomo4904 4 жыл бұрын
well I'm a bit upset coz wheein put only on dancing where there's fact that wheein is one of the most gorgeous vocals in the whole kpop industry. I'm not saying that your fav are not talented, surely they are but MAMAMOO'S TALENT HITS DIFFERENT AND MAMAMOO IS THE GENRE. thnx
@eleniOG
@eleniOG 4 жыл бұрын
wheeinie multitalentedddd
@kangpingu8445
@kangpingu8445 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, she's the golden child .. the ace of K-pop. Our Queen of ost, talented dancer and she can rap too. Loved how she can dance smoothly and her hip style ❤️ and don't forget she's the only braincell in mamamoo 😆
@ilovenishimurariki
@ilovenishimurariki 4 жыл бұрын
i honestly think she's the best singer in mmm even tho solar is my bias
@jungggomo4904
@jungggomo4904 4 жыл бұрын
@@kangpingu8445 and the baby of mamamoo🧡
@jungggomo4904
@jungggomo4904 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilovenishimurariki wheein can wreck everyone with her voice😭
@anisabadriah3999
@anisabadriah3999 4 жыл бұрын
Killing vocal mamamoo 👍🏿❤️🔥🎉
@eragrori8783
@eragrori8783 4 жыл бұрын
Blackpink killin' all
@anisabadriah3999
@anisabadriah3999 4 жыл бұрын
@@eragrori8783. seriously 😂 only discuss mamamoo vocals which are very good and varied
@szn2873
@szn2873 4 жыл бұрын
@@eragrori8783 in bots
@woozihae
@woozihae 4 жыл бұрын
@@eragrori8783 lmao
@eragrori8783
@eragrori8783 4 жыл бұрын
@@anisabadriah3999 i dont care about mamamoo
@cheshireblackjack6544
@cheshireblackjack6544 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo wins SOLAR MOONBYUL WHEEIN HWASA
@gpsy01
@gpsy01 3 жыл бұрын
Another unfair comparison 😪 Mamamoo are queens of vocals, producers, composers, queens of Immortal songs while black pink queens of popularity, of breaking records and views.
@toxi_hanou
@toxi_hanou 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@blurredmirrors
@blurredmirrors 3 жыл бұрын
@Lovely Mamamoo aren’t a flop- no need to get so mad! I could be wrong, but I don’t think the ot comment meant it in a bad way. Being queens of record breaking and getting so many views so quickly is still pretty amazing (though I believe it’s the product of a bad system aka starving their fans :/ poor BP). And it is possible to defend a group without being toxic.
@sweetmimosamommysaranghae3163
@sweetmimosamommysaranghae3163 3 жыл бұрын
@Listen up YO BITCHES I mean where is the lie, it’s not fair for bp to be compared to a group like mamamoo, bp need to be compared with groups with their level, mamamoo is just impossible to win against😴
@iliasali8365
@iliasali8365 3 жыл бұрын
@☆BLACKPINK will never be in my area☆ I am with you I am an army and blink
@iliasali8365
@iliasali8365 3 жыл бұрын
@☆BLACKPINK will never be in my area☆we are family ok ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@eleniOG
@eleniOG 4 жыл бұрын
honestly Mamamoo needs more recognition, like I mean if they can top the biggest girl group plsss also people that say stop comparing... start off with award shows or anything award related because...
@niceowl1175
@niceowl1175 3 жыл бұрын
Let the result talkin, dont hurt others feelings. Remember moonbyul said.
@eleniOG
@eleniOG 3 жыл бұрын
@@niceowl1175 what results? award shows are also comparing!
@eleniOG
@eleniOG 3 жыл бұрын
​@Listen up YO BITCHES talent will always DESERVE to get recognition!! And yes views don't matter AT ALL and they don't add or take away from the talent. But when ppl/fans go to such extent to defend how their group does not lip sync, or, has a good voice or is talented musically as an artist is when I will step in. Mamamoo have been there, and done that and are perhaps the freaking STANDARD. I will always want the best for these women. But regarding views and all that BS doesn't matter to me at all. By recognition, I meant people to be aware of how much talented they are and how they possess soooo much!! Loll people will break their backs defending a group who does NOTHING for themselves nor are nothing without their company WHILE Mamamoo literally MADE their company. Pleaseee
@chimmy9455
@chimmy9455 2 жыл бұрын
@@eleniOG it's easy to say this cuz mmm are not under yg, rbw gives mmm a lot more artistic experiences and opportunity than yg does..
@eleniOG
@eleniOG 2 жыл бұрын
@@chimmy9455 and... freedom or not we only know what we can see. and Mamamoo have proven who they are and proven themself beyond just a group that was made by a company..
@ericvilchesbaeza1631
@ericvilchesbaeza1631 4 жыл бұрын
Solar Hwasa Moonbyul Wheein 🥰
@thatpieceofdustonthefloor30
@thatpieceofdustonthefloor30 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@khushisarkar8587
@khushisarkar8587 4 жыл бұрын
I think in something mamamoo and blackpink are same . Do you except it's my opinion what's your please tell me .
@thatpieceofdustonthefloor30
@thatpieceofdustonthefloor30 4 жыл бұрын
@@khushisarkar8587 yeah I appreciate your opinion it’s just everyone has different ears and tastes some people like mamamoo some people like blackpink my personal preference is mamamoo because I love how they cover every genre I wouldn’t call them the same since they have different goals and different supports but they are both great singers
@aaaaaaaa3081
@aaaaaaaa3081 4 жыл бұрын
IF MAMAMOO DEBUTED IN US, THEY'LL SURELY ROCK THE WESTERN STANDARDS
@porrrnesianparrrapio6015
@porrrnesianparrrapio6015 4 жыл бұрын
Like hwasa said she makes her own standards
@porrrnesianparrrapio6015
@porrrnesianparrrapio6015 4 жыл бұрын
@younggg they will be one of the best gg in the world
@pleasesubscribetomychannel2446
@pleasesubscribetomychannel2446 4 жыл бұрын
US suvk~~
@quintessa2911
@quintessa2911 4 жыл бұрын
and they would have collaborated with little mix!!
@chamlumiere4377
@chamlumiere4377 4 жыл бұрын
Like Little Mix.
@513moonpratik
@513moonpratik 3 жыл бұрын
I can't see any comparison as I truly got into kpop by listening to Mamamoo... And literally no one stands near them specially live performance... Love Mamamoo... Our Queens...
@blacktothepinks
@blacktothepinks 3 жыл бұрын
I got into kpop by Blackpink, left kpop for a while. Then MAMAMOO brought me back to kpop. I really love both.
@Bloomingflower859
@Bloomingflower859 3 жыл бұрын
Agree !! I got in to kpop because of BTS but true that No girl group can stand near to Mamamoo.
@nakanouzumaki1613
@nakanouzumaki1613 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bloomingflower859 I agree with u
@coconutdimples6509
@coconutdimples6509 3 жыл бұрын
sadly blackpink the biggest gg in the world
@user-js6hd9nu6p
@user-js6hd9nu6p 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget mamamoo
@nobody-gi5gf
@nobody-gi5gf 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo wins
@xoclaraxo
@xoclaraxo 4 жыл бұрын
definitely
@uribabydontstopchorom3257
@uribabydontstopchorom3257 4 жыл бұрын
Yess
@thauanymendes4335
@thauanymendes4335 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@zlali7
@zlali7 4 жыл бұрын
Both did
@nobody-gi5gf
@nobody-gi5gf 4 жыл бұрын
@@zlali7 it's clear who is the winner, dont need to say anything 🤫🤫😁😂😂
@raraspawestri1368
@raraspawestri1368 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that Mamamoo lacked is exposure. From a small unknown agency they did the best they could and I'm so proud of my girls of what they achieved now.
@raraspawestri1368
@raraspawestri1368 3 жыл бұрын
@So supporting BLACKPINK means being toxic nowadays lol. You ok bestie? Plis take a chill pill n re-read my comment. I have never put anyone's down. Its true that They are lacked of exposure, moomoo fully aware of that cause mamamoo came from small agency.why are you bringing bts here? This is hilarious 🤣.
@giselleburger
@giselleburger 3 жыл бұрын
@☆BLACKPINK will never be in my area☆ let's be honest, if bp weren't from yg They're not gonna be as popular as they are now
@minakshikochhar543
@minakshikochhar543 3 жыл бұрын
@No no no drama in my life 😭🔫 *"Flop"* lmao sure bestie sure I already expected a statement like this from a toxic blonk like you
@adriennedelatorre7644
@adriennedelatorre7644 4 жыл бұрын
I am a big Fan of Blackpink. But i have to be true. Mamamoo are really a QUEENS!
@mamamoosolar7553
@mamamoosolar7553 4 жыл бұрын
Awww💚💚💚 I love those who support our gurls thanks blink💚😘😘
@lokiddblinks62
@lokiddblinks62 4 жыл бұрын
BLACKPINK ARE THE QUEENS
@danellaarmyjennie6020
@danellaarmyjennie6020 4 жыл бұрын
@@lokiddblinks62 Both are queens
@jasmines_solace
@jasmines_solace 4 жыл бұрын
@@danellaarmyjennie6020 facts 😌
@ilikemyname7777
@ilikemyname7777 4 жыл бұрын
@@danellaarmyjennie6020 mamamoo a goddess
@ashleyozy9292
@ashleyozy9292 3 жыл бұрын
Solar's voice 😍🔥 It's melting my heart
@codie_wheeinlanz8859
@codie_wheeinlanz8859 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see WHEEIN vocal?hahaha..it's hard to beat WHEEIN in comes from vocal right.hahahha
@modestyqueen4649
@modestyqueen4649 4 жыл бұрын
She will wipe all of them on the ground no hate 😌
@sunshinehope6381
@sunshinehope6381 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr Wheein is just something else
@soullessch3n908
@soullessch3n908 4 жыл бұрын
No one can beat our wheepup honey voice💚
@naytdls9479
@naytdls9479 4 жыл бұрын
After all she is so versatile, i mean every body is very good at something, and Wheein is good at doing a bit of everything.
@pinkishblizz7612
@pinkishblizz7612 4 жыл бұрын
yesss wheein vocal queen
@hafshss
@hafshss 4 жыл бұрын
Hugeee difference OMG MAMAMOO ARE JUST ON ANOTHER LEVEL
@uribabydontstopchorom3257
@uribabydontstopchorom3257 4 жыл бұрын
Yes periodt🙌🏻
@gemini7091
@gemini7091 4 жыл бұрын
Only in vocals.
@ilovenamjoonsomuch5400
@ilovenamjoonsomuch5400 4 жыл бұрын
But they are super problematic
@btsis76
@btsis76 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilovenamjoonsomuch5400 no, they're not. Twitter is filled with rumors about them.
@ilovenamjoonsomuch5400
@ilovenamjoonsomuch5400 4 жыл бұрын
@@btsis76 I don’t even have Twitter am not gonna keep this up do ur research that’s it
@deadinside8719
@deadinside8719 4 жыл бұрын
Wheein can beat them alone. My girl is multitalented
@eleniOG
@eleniOG 4 жыл бұрын
puuuurrrrrr
@adrianaroblesgomez5377
@adrianaroblesgomez5377 4 жыл бұрын
No she can’t lol she is not even as close to beating Lisa dancing and Jennies rap
@iambarrah928
@iambarrah928 4 жыл бұрын
@@adrianaroblesgomez5377 come on, MR removed? And live? Try watching MMMTV, Wheein raps for fun, and she's good 👌🏻
@totsss
@totsss 4 жыл бұрын
Adriana Robles Gómez I need to agree in some way with you, I think Lisa’s dance is better than Wheein, but why gotta be so disrespectful? That was rude, you could simply say “in my opinion....” but that sounded so biased. Anyways u can’t deny that Wheein is such a talented, beautiful and amazing women, so pls don’t spread hate thanks
@adrianaroblesgomez5377
@adrianaroblesgomez5377 4 жыл бұрын
@@totsss i said my opinion am not gonna sugar code it Wheein is very talented but saying the can beat Blackpink alone is the real disrespect
@Kimnugget637
@Kimnugget637 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say that i got into kpop because of BP, then stopped listening to it for a while and then in 2017 came across MMM. I love both of them and listen to both of them, like a lot, but MMM helped me through some rough periods, they made me happy with their goofy and beagle personalities, their talent and their incredible music and, because of that, MMM is my favorite group ever.
@claravian
@claravian 2 жыл бұрын
Same, BP is the one who introduced me to kpop, but Mamamoo is the one who made me stay :')
@nhuq_inthemood
@nhuq_inthemood 4 жыл бұрын
I love seeing the comments show their love for Mamamoo.
@maryum4982
@maryum4982 4 жыл бұрын
same
@evalay6895
@evalay6895 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo has talent ofcourse there will be love.
@luv.rosie.
@luv.rosie. 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah who'd think there bad? Well haters who else and what mamamoo did to them?
@narutodattebayo4887
@narutodattebayo4887 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@dani_hearts_u
@dani_hearts_u 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@fahirajazinda6221
@fahirajazinda6221 4 жыл бұрын
Guys wheein's so underrated but she so good. I tell you once you whee-in you can't whee-out
@panconqueso4042
@panconqueso4042 3 жыл бұрын
True, she's my bias breaker (and I'm ot4)
@yvescensoredmoved.8986
@yvescensoredmoved.8986 3 жыл бұрын
wheein isn't underrated tf
@yvescensoredmoved.8986
@yvescensoredmoved.8986 3 жыл бұрын
@ذات she's just unappreciated. wanna know what underrated is?
@yvescensoredmoved.8986
@yvescensoredmoved.8986 3 жыл бұрын
@ذات wtf bp and mamamoo aren't underrated
@yvescensoredmoved.8986
@yvescensoredmoved.8986 3 жыл бұрын
@ذات no, underrated doesn't mean something good. example: underrated are artists like elris, ladies code, lunarsolar, who don't have much of recognition (they hardly get 1million views). mamamoo is one of the most popular groups right now, so they're not underrated but wheein needs to be appreciated more. she's a god tier vocalist.
@maggy1944
@maggy1944 4 жыл бұрын
Rant coming in 3..2...1 Really tho, I like both groups. Blackpink introduced me to kpop and now I'm a solid moomoo, but I still appreciate BP big time. The two of them have very different styles. I actually think BP are incredible performers especially after watching their coachella performance. For some reason, they don't feel comfortable performing like that in Korea. I also blame the way YG forced Rose into learning an unhealthy way of singing because, in my opinion, her voice pre-debut was WAY better. YG is also to blame for not giving the girls enough freedom in making their own music. My fave BP songs are honestly the ones where they participated in writing. For Mamamoo, girl, THERE ARE ALMOST NO FLAWS. They're given the freedom, they were trained properly, and they have a lovely friendship with the company and staff. Only problem is that RBW doesn't give them proper international promotion. If RBW promoted Mamamoo the way Bighit promoted BTS, then it wouldn't matter that they were from a small company. Mamamoo would probably be slaying the Grammy's by now. Anyways, both groups are amazing nevertheless. I can't say which is the "better" group because it's all about preferences, really. Maybe someone might like listening to Rose's unique voice instead of Solar's powerful vocals. Maybe someone might like Wheein's style of dancing more instead of Lisa's. We should just support our faves and quit the fanwars. Nothing good ever comes from that.
@1993ladyshindo00
@1993ladyshindo00 4 жыл бұрын
this should be the top comment
@ndnadia9
@ndnadia9 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@bangtansonyeoddaeng7492
@bangtansonyeoddaeng7492 4 жыл бұрын
This comment should be pinned
@juleemoo6351
@juleemoo6351 4 жыл бұрын
I first stanned blackpink too. But after discovering Mamamoo, they have my heart.❣
@luv.rosie.
@luv.rosie. 3 жыл бұрын
It is your opinion and I am not going to blame you but I kinda feel bad for BP because they are forced to do things it i- just not fair😞
@jeonsomi378
@jeonsomi378 2 жыл бұрын
I was a big other gg fangirl till I met mamamoo.. They changed my perspective and all gawd these women
@iamme2872
@iamme2872 4 жыл бұрын
Moonbyul has powerful rap voice..
@pritz4239
@pritz4239 4 жыл бұрын
Being a moo I'm proud to be their fan ..Their song gives me so much of happiness and energy ...it's the same feeling when I first became ARMY like their everything makes me laugh and pushes me to do better and better in life and reminds me that nothing is easy and we have to work hard
@uribabydontstopchorom3257
@uribabydontstopchorom3257 4 жыл бұрын
Same🙌🏻 #armymooforlife 💜💜💜
@Fatima-no6ph
@Fatima-no6ph 4 жыл бұрын
SAME 💜
@Sasalovesmoney
@Sasalovesmoney 3 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo girls are role models. To artists, to women, and the whole world
@fathimanuzla2658
@fathimanuzla2658 2 жыл бұрын
First, the whole world should know them, their not popular kooreans think😅😅
@ifyouhatek-popturnonyourlo15
@ifyouhatek-popturnonyourlo15 2 жыл бұрын
whole world.??
@thebbieponce6006
@thebbieponce6006 4 жыл бұрын
Im really into 2ne1 and Mamamoo singing and stage charisma
@geszaquintos5012
@geszaquintos5012 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@darljemvinales8474
@darljemvinales8474 3 жыл бұрын
Yasssss
@user-js6hd9nu6p
@user-js6hd9nu6p 3 жыл бұрын
Moomoo taste mowwww oh I mean woooww
@venommpinks12
@venommpinks12 3 жыл бұрын
Wdc
@giselleburger
@giselleburger 3 жыл бұрын
@@venommpinks12 only you and those blinks🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@mamamoosolar7553
@mamamoosolar7553 4 жыл бұрын
Talent:MMM Popularity:bp Edit: shit y'all need to stop abt this like are u all normal or can't y'all look at the bright side and sorry to say this but the only one attacking their self in the replying section are none other than blonks themselves and yeah i get it they're trying to defend their fav but from my point of view there's nothing to be offended by my comment unless u see it s negative and i also see some of u calling moomoo toxic but we're just trying to defend our fav just like u guys from ur malicious reply there'll be no argument like this if u all look at the bright side Lemme clear abt this comment.. talent:mmm popularity:bp When i said that talent goes to mmm that doesn't mean that bp are talentless and when i said that popularity goes to bp that doesn't mean that mmm aren't popular it's just that am speaking up my mind that mmm also deserve the amount of fame with bp after all with their talent signing visual yeah they do deserve the fame And last thing do i ever eva said on my comment that bp are talentless??? or do i ever discreditor degrade bp on my comment???to all those who are still talking abt "oh u r degrading bp or discredit bp just s f up" it's u who should shut the fck up 😠
@nickylovelz3352
@nickylovelz3352 4 жыл бұрын
Talent:MMM BP popularidade: BP MMM
@teddyperth3738
@teddyperth3738 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@blackpink_g7733
@blackpink_g7733 4 жыл бұрын
No don't think so but its you obinion
@weebpetals5296
@weebpetals5296 4 жыл бұрын
Kpop_ Fan it’s right.. I’m bp stan but roght
@xoclaraxo
@xoclaraxo 4 жыл бұрын
thats a fact!!! no one can fight you lol
@mamamoosolar7553
@mamamoosolar7553 4 жыл бұрын
Main rapper:MMM Main dancer:bp Main vocal:MMM Visual:both
@swastidixit4233
@swastidixit4233 4 жыл бұрын
am not saying they are not beautiful but as u are saying talent goea to mmm then visuals goes to bp don't get me wrong i am not a blink nor a mm
@swastidixit4233
@swastidixit4233 4 жыл бұрын
but bp really have strong visuals
@mamamoosolar7553
@mamamoosolar7553 4 жыл бұрын
@@swastidixit4233 yeaa their looks are outstanding(bp) and am not trying to start a fight here but sometimes the preference of some peoples are not the same and to me both of the groups are beautiful in one way or another don't get me wrong
@swastidixit4233
@swastidixit4233 4 жыл бұрын
@@mamamoosolar7553 yeaj mmm is extremely beautiful but it's just rhat many people prefer bp more
@mamamoosolar7553
@mamamoosolar7553 4 жыл бұрын
@@swastidixit4233 okay if that's what you want end of the story
@zenocean9622
@zenocean9622 3 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo 4 vocalist 4 rapper 4 dancer 4 visual 4 crackhead 🖤
@thetoiletpaperrollondalgom4592
@thetoiletpaperrollondalgom4592 3 жыл бұрын
4 cuties 🥰
@redloona1085
@redloona1085 3 жыл бұрын
4 quenns
@jung_cook
@jung_cook 3 жыл бұрын
4 goddesses👑👸
@nikkimaemonje7
@nikkimaemonje7 3 жыл бұрын
Thats true
@push7524
@push7524 3 жыл бұрын
4 flops
@fritziepampilon1773
@fritziepampilon1773 4 жыл бұрын
We all know it's mamamoo (no hate to bp). Both group are good in their own way.
@organismopluricelular9560
@organismopluricelular9560 3 жыл бұрын
i prefer bp rap but vocal goes ti mamamoo ofc
@vy802
@vy802 2 жыл бұрын
@@organismopluricelular9560 lmao????💀💀💀💀
@ladyelrin4093
@ladyelrin4093 4 жыл бұрын
Im sure mamamoo wins for the best voice singing.
@kpopxaesthetic
@kpopxaesthetic 3 жыл бұрын
Black pink
@xoclaraxo
@xoclaraxo 4 жыл бұрын
don't compare byul to lisa😭 MOONBYUL WRITES HER OWN RAP VERSES
@reshminandan2541
@reshminandan2541 4 жыл бұрын
OMG? MIXERS SUPPORTING MAMAMOO AND MOOMOOS IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I'VE EVER SEEN 💖 Mixer here too and I agree with you
@xoclaraxo
@xoclaraxo 4 жыл бұрын
@@reshminandan2541 yess i love both so much🥰🥰
@露马脚
@露马脚 4 жыл бұрын
Lisa also wrote her rap part in Blackpink's song "As if it is your Last". She took part with Jennie in writing their "Sure thing" song cover and also co-writing her rap verse in "Love to hate me" song.
@xoclaraxo
@xoclaraxo 4 жыл бұрын
@@露马脚 byul has 72 writing credits. i know bp has only 1 or 2 songs a year (for more views) but their style is becoming the same. i dont stan them anymore they're not active at all and i dont like their live vocals
@eleniOG
@eleniOG 4 жыл бұрын
@@露马脚 but... MOONBYUL writes all of her raps and those are a few songs you mentioned... just saying
@cheeneabi8740
@cheeneabi8740 3 жыл бұрын
Solar's mere power vocal and versatility is just on another level...
@riss3604
@riss3604 4 жыл бұрын
It's always talent over popularity. That's why I'm stanning mmm
@maryum4982
@maryum4982 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@nightmarephoenix679
@nightmarephoenix679 4 жыл бұрын
You will not be famous if you are not talented.
@maryum4982
@maryum4982 4 жыл бұрын
@@nightmarephoenix679 then do you want to say mmm is not talented as bp?
@nightmarephoenix679
@nightmarephoenix679 4 жыл бұрын
@@maryum4982 I never said that.
@nightmarephoenix679
@nightmarephoenix679 4 жыл бұрын
@@maryum4982 it was just because the comment says like bp doesn't deserve their popularity.
@angelmartinsoberanischajal529
@angelmartinsoberanischajal529 4 жыл бұрын
MAMAMOO IS COMING BACK FOUR YOU 👑👑👑👑
@tanujakiran2225
@tanujakiran2225 4 жыл бұрын
Never
@lizzy7107
@lizzy7107 4 жыл бұрын
@Nathalia Rafaella nobody asked who was better. Stop with these kinds of comments please 😐
@Izah0_0
@Izah0_0 4 жыл бұрын
@Nathalia Rafaella lmaoo
@thomasanggara451
@thomasanggara451 4 жыл бұрын
Knock knock knock knock
@no-jg5bn
@no-jg5bn 4 жыл бұрын
@Nathalia Rafaella no one cares shut up🧍‍♀️
@1995-u2n
@1995-u2n 4 жыл бұрын
MAMAMOO OFC😌💜 STAN MAMAMOO! STAN QUEENS!! STAN TALENT!!!
@ashleyozy9292
@ashleyozy9292 3 жыл бұрын
They are all good but Mamamoo is just ahhh pure talent
@stfu9799
@stfu9799 3 жыл бұрын
Tf-☠️
@MelisssaBai
@MelisssaBai 3 жыл бұрын
True.💫💫
@margi2362
@margi2362 3 жыл бұрын
Ya underrated group MAMAMOO = QUEENS
@katarinakos9415
@katarinakos9415 2 жыл бұрын
@@stfu9799 What? You got a problem?
@manojkumarkundu8374
@manojkumarkundu8374 4 жыл бұрын
The real tea is MAMAMOO are REAL ARTISTS who show love for their music through their performances .. it's not their secondary job where they have to make an "appearance" after a long period of inactivity .. Furthermore MMM are not afraid of showing their individuality and try out different styles .. they don't always stick to one "clichéd" style ..
@themenace1975
@themenace1975 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly mamamoo are real artists, not insta influencers with music as their side work
@jiyaparekh1327
@jiyaparekh1327 3 жыл бұрын
first things first. Blackpink cannot decide when they want to make their comeback. YG DOES. And after 2020 I hope u see their dedication for music. They ain’t INSTA INFLUENCERS they’re real artists who produce great music! We shouldn’t be comparing these queens if mamamoo and blackpink can be friends why can’t moomoos and blinks?! People need to stop pitting women against each other smh.
@aster83
@aster83 3 жыл бұрын
@@jiyaparekh1327 I agree
@Choco_pie89
@Choco_pie89 3 жыл бұрын
@@jiyaparekh1327 my blinkmoo heart agrees TwT
@ghulamnabimir4809
@ghulamnabimir4809 3 жыл бұрын
Wow as if bp decides when they get comebacks you just can't swallow that they are popular and most followed and one more thing they debut years ago before joining insta lmao it's not their fault they get tons of followers
@marte622
@marte622 4 жыл бұрын
mamamoo mamamoo mamamoo mamamoo mamamoo mamamoo mamamoo mamamoo mamamoo mamamoo mamamoo mamamoo
@jammycobra
@jammycobra 4 жыл бұрын
I was a die hard Blink... Only KPOP I would allow myself to listen to but somehow Mamamoo showed up and wrecked my world. Don't get me wrong Blackpink is amazing but Mamamoo = QUEENS! They literally take my breath away, on and off stage. Just wish RBW promoted them better. The world is missing out on these amazing ladies! Hwasa and Wheein... Please sign your contracts!
@jayem2766
@jayem2766 3 жыл бұрын
Same.. I was a blink hahaha.. But now I'm an Avid Moomoo 😅
@nakanouzumaki1613
@nakanouzumaki1613 3 жыл бұрын
@@jayem2766 😂😂
@cheeneabi8740
@cheeneabi8740 3 жыл бұрын
Hwasa's presence and voice is just one of a kind...
@cjeffehm4988
@cjeffehm4988 4 жыл бұрын
3 ways to settle this: Have them compete in Immortal Songs or something like Queendom Style or Sing live without MR
@user-vf9oh1gg6i
@user-vf9oh1gg6i 4 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhh❤ a very nice idea...
@zennmaiaguerrero8348
@zennmaiaguerrero8348 4 жыл бұрын
But...if its live performance i think i know who will win. (I said I , so it means its my opinion. So this is not a hate comment) esp if mr remove
@user-vf9oh1gg6i
@user-vf9oh1gg6i 4 жыл бұрын
@@zennmaiaguerrero8348 MMM of course😏🙂
@zennmaiaguerrero8348
@zennmaiaguerrero8348 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-vf9oh1gg6i ohp hahaha
@user-vf9oh1gg6i
@user-vf9oh1gg6i 4 жыл бұрын
@@zennmaiaguerrero8348 whatt?😂😂😂
@catherineadian1056
@catherineadian1056 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that you used Hwasa's parody of Shakira in this video proved that even though they are not being serious, they still sound good like pEri0dt
@nyunyu429
@nyunyu429 4 жыл бұрын
True
@kaderalp2343
@kaderalp2343 3 жыл бұрын
True
@niceowl1175
@niceowl1175 3 жыл бұрын
True
@redloona1085
@redloona1085 3 жыл бұрын
True
@mamamoofoeva1125
@mamamoofoeva1125 3 жыл бұрын
True
@jamesjallorina5161
@jamesjallorina5161 3 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo are artist like they are involved in every song they release, they write, compose, and choreograph, mamamoo members are all KOMCA credited artist their rapper have 71 komca credits being #1 in 3rd gen gg and #2 overall GG in history
@ericv6519
@ericv6519 3 жыл бұрын
Blackpink participated in writing lovesico girls and guess what? It charts and also listed as #5 best kpop song by izm critic (the largest music critic of soutj korea) and where ur flop faves
@yeaok.
@yeaok. 3 жыл бұрын
But they still tanked 😟
@whendfroster9240
@whendfroster9240 3 жыл бұрын
All flops. I’d rather support takent like blackpink which attracts people coz they’re a lot more relatable
@Angel67898
@Angel67898 3 жыл бұрын
@@whendfroster9240 Bruh- Stfu toxic blink No wonder why blink is the most toxic fandom
@Angel67898
@Angel67898 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericv6519 Mamamoo is one of the most famous group of Korea They are the National girl crush of Korea Stop calling them flop Bcz I can too call Blackpink overrated
@imtortoro
@imtortoro 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly all mamamoo members are dancers, singers, visuals and all of that but most of all they are real. They don’t always act professional and do what they want, they don’t act like celebrities but normal people. They give off a good vibe which is why you see these comments favoring mamamoo. No offense to blinks or black pink but mmm just has those extra factors no other girl group can ever come close to.
@trijohajong905
@trijohajong905 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. 😌
@baldiena1679
@baldiena1679 3 жыл бұрын
They both are cool why ppl Just Keep Sayin BP Not cool & MMM Are cool & BP Are Cool & MMM Not cool They both Are Too Beautiful 💕
@demari9115
@demari9115 4 жыл бұрын
MAMAMO FOREVER
@sena_tmdgn2257
@sena_tmdgn2257 4 жыл бұрын
BLACKPİNK FOREVER
@Jkisjustkidding
@Jkisjustkidding 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo forever
@sena_tmdgn2257
@sena_tmdgn2257 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jkisjustkidding BLACKPİNK FOREVER
@sakuraharuno9650
@sakuraharuno9650 4 жыл бұрын
never, blackpink forever
@iker345
@iker345 3 жыл бұрын
mamamoo best group 💘
@lysannepaquette8343
@lysannepaquette8343 4 жыл бұрын
like I'm kind of laughing for the visual position. Because when has mamamoo ever given a shit about that position.
@mimicosm-p3g
@mimicosm-p3g 4 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@audreyscxx3467
@audreyscxx3467 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly lmao just look at the amount of memes of MAMAMOO we have
@hwasaitgirl7309
@hwasaitgirl7309 4 жыл бұрын
Lok
@ilovenishimurariki
@ilovenishimurariki 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeonJungkook-ek1ts hwasa is like the most stunning woman i've ever seen
@wheeinismyoxygen4551
@wheeinismyoxygen4551 3 жыл бұрын
I think you cant compare mamamoo , honestly they slay
@caroltolentino3982
@caroltolentino3982 3 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo are very good singers they are real artist and they are matured they just need a big promotions and big company to be known world wide.
@Brittney336
@Brittney336 2 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine how big they will get if they performed on things like American idols as a guest and more biggest shows in America where singers and performers can truly get the exposure for mainly their talent cus the main reason I stan MMM is their talent first then their beauty and personality which I don't get to recognized in most groups in kpop nowadays.
@somebody.1987
@somebody.1987 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but Mamamoo is on a whole another level 🔥🔥🔥
@tarunnair3755
@tarunnair3755 3 жыл бұрын
Facts🔥
@blimynasaveralphrespectjen2217
@blimynasaveralphrespectjen2217 3 жыл бұрын
no, your just on the mamamoo fandom.
@somebody.1987
@somebody.1987 3 жыл бұрын
@@blimynasaveralphrespectjen2217 no we just have different opinions
@atwhyamihere5915
@atwhyamihere5915 3 жыл бұрын
yep true talent
@gowonthestallion851
@gowonthestallion851 3 жыл бұрын
@@blimynasaveralphrespectjen2217 well you're on toxic blink fandom tho-
@lalhriatpuiichawngthu1509
@lalhriatpuiichawngthu1509 3 жыл бұрын
Solar voice I LOVE IT SOO MUCH SHE HAS THE TONE I NEED ITS SOO CLEAR.. HWASA sexy voice gives me soo mannny good feelingsss... MOONBYUL RAPS ARE UNBEATABLE..wheein dances are soo amazing!!! MAMAMOO ARE EVERYTHING YOU WILL ASK FOR
@reinarocas311
@reinarocas311 3 жыл бұрын
I love both groups, they are beautiful and very talented women, but Mamamoo is something unique!! 💖💖💖
@micpie9480
@micpie9480 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo and Dreamcatcher, the two of the most talented girls groups in kpop!
@sania4011
@sania4011 4 жыл бұрын
Facts!
@bewilldestroyytsnakeu8607
@bewilldestroyytsnakeu8607 4 жыл бұрын
True F a c t s
@aaaaaaaa3081
@aaaaaaaa3081 4 жыл бұрын
FUCK YOU FOR SPILLING FACTS!😠
@mii_cian6242
@mii_cian6242 4 жыл бұрын
facts
@_avneetmaan
@_avneetmaan 4 жыл бұрын
Just my opinion i like dreamcatcher not mamamoo
@Memz._.Memez1
@Memz._.Memez1 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo all the way. Mamamoo have more stage PRESENTS and always gives it their all as bp slack in some areas. I feel like bp are really popular because they are from a big company as mamamoo are from a smaller company. Solar's voice is way better then rose. That was my first time seeing solar sing really loud and she can ssiinnnggg. Not only that but mamamoo write all their songs and they all have powerful meanings as bp songs dont really. Mamamoo are all about self love as their new comeback wanna be myself. When have you every seen bp promote self love. No shade but bp talk more about how they are beautiful then spreading the message that everyone is beautiful. Mamamoo in my opinion are way better then bp and are all full of energy.
@blink_forever7692
@blink_forever7692 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree with u blackpink is talented not just mmm i do not think its because if the company u see lisa a deadass a dancing machine u call that not having talent have u heard roses vocals have u seen jennie rap have u ever heard jisoo sing?? i bet u havent cause your shady ass over here deadass saying bp is talent less think before u speak honey!!!!
@mii_cian6242
@mii_cian6242 4 жыл бұрын
@@blink_forever7692 they didnt say that blackpink doesn't have talent. Rosie surely can sing, but she somehow is laid back i dont know why. As a person who sings i can feel like she somehow have more but is afraid to show it because the people may look weird at her. Lisa has the best stage presence in my opinion. Black Pink has talent but they lack some things: Personality, own style and besides this they are a bit repetitive. I just want them to feel better but i see they struggle a lot sometimes... And i agree with the comment. I dont understand the message bp is triyng to show, while mmm is all about self love. I could finally love myself bc of Mamamoo. They just say to be confident and don't care abt stereotypes. I hope this make u understand this comment better. Share love 💙💙
@blink_forever7692
@blink_forever7692 4 жыл бұрын
@@mii_cian6242 mamamoo lacks on sum things too not just bp just to let u know thT
@mii_cian6242
@mii_cian6242 4 жыл бұрын
@@blink_forever7692 yess im aware of that. Nobody is perfect ^^
@blink_forever7692
@blink_forever7692 4 жыл бұрын
@@mii_cian6242 exaclty
@tomie1738
@tomie1738 4 жыл бұрын
Wheein as a dancer is underrated girl her moves are so clean and her flow is insane
@Schopda
@Schopda 3 жыл бұрын
MAMAMOO is the strongest kpop group that can compete with western artist.
@dancingdiva9224
@dancingdiva9224 3 жыл бұрын
So do they have billion views?
@Schopda
@Schopda 3 жыл бұрын
@@dancingdiva9224 Views doesn't define Talents
@Schopda
@Schopda 3 жыл бұрын
@@dancingdiva9224 It's not just all about views
@Schopda
@Schopda 3 жыл бұрын
@@dancingdiva9224 I've been supporting kpop groups including bp. I assure you MMM is the strongest kpop performers this generation.
@toxi_hanou
@toxi_hanou 3 жыл бұрын
@@dancingdiva9224 Lmao you blinks should stop thinking that popularity and views are everything. Especially when you get all your views only because you came from a big company and because your fans have only 10mvs to str3am so obviously they would have more views than the others. Blinks are so toxic istg
@kimjae-san2406
@kimjae-san2406 4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to talent MMM beat BP any day. Don’t fight me 🤷🏽‍♀️
@ushuiys3768
@ushuiys3768 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo is just good at singing lol.
@kimjae-san2406
@kimjae-san2406 4 жыл бұрын
Ushuiys toxic bitch go away
@wheeinlikeme2532
@wheeinlikeme2532 4 жыл бұрын
@@ushuiys3768 it means you say BP is not good at singing right? lol
@neipinengkipgen9795
@neipinengkipgen9795 4 жыл бұрын
@@ushuiys3768 excuse me wheein and moonbyul are great dancer. Solar can do pole dance. All the member of mmm can play drum, piano and sme of them can play guitar.
@aprallyn3144
@aprallyn3144 4 жыл бұрын
@@ushuiys3768 they are singers/performers so of course they have to be good in singing lol
@H2SO4.SO4
@H2SO4.SO4 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo is always the queens for me😌👑👸
@Joxi391
@Joxi391 3 жыл бұрын
true 😎
@くぉくぉくぉ
@くぉくぉくぉ 3 жыл бұрын
Ah hes Hes ofc their queens
@H2SO4.SO4
@H2SO4.SO4 3 жыл бұрын
@@Joxi391 yeah😌
@Ok-uz2dr
@Ok-uz2dr 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah blackpink and twice too
@H2SO4.SO4
@H2SO4.SO4 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ok-uz2dr For me its mamamoo cause I stan them but blackpink and twice are good too
@ТалгаткызыАружанУиА20-1
@ТалгаткызыАружанУиА20-1 4 жыл бұрын
even the teaser of mamamoo os very interesting:)
@moomoointhemood3804
@moomoointhemood3804 4 жыл бұрын
OAJSOAJAKAKAK thats me, hello bro im future version of u😎 че я написал
@snehakindo5798
@snehakindo5798 3 жыл бұрын
I think both are best in their own way But for me mamamoo always wins 😘❤
@drenkaizer2032
@drenkaizer2032 4 жыл бұрын
Why there is no wheein's vocals?
@gassanzade
@gassanzade 4 жыл бұрын
Of course Mamamoo
@deemehra
@deemehra 3 жыл бұрын
Wheein can beat them alone
@Miniminichimin
@Miniminichimin 3 жыл бұрын
even moon can, cuz our girls MAMAMOO are QUEENS.
@youth5956
@youth5956 3 жыл бұрын
This small insects group fans are the real toxic one and calling us toxic stay press the throne is always theirs
@CosmicSelen3
@CosmicSelen3 2 жыл бұрын
@@youth5956 We can see who's the pressed one here
@jooolulahiipi1166
@jooolulahiipi1166 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo😊 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🥰😍😍🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
@reignanne9374
@reignanne9374 4 жыл бұрын
what makes mmm unique is that they are free, they have creative freedom and they can freely express themselves 💖 BP is a global IDOL group but MMM is a group of ARTISTS ❤❤
@loyown9832
@loyown9832 3 жыл бұрын
Corny. talking as if blackpink is not a group of artists🤡
@coconutdimples6509
@coconutdimples6509 3 жыл бұрын
and how is it bp's fault they are in a shitty label not giving them any freedom?? bp outsold mm by miles
@venommpinks12
@venommpinks12 3 жыл бұрын
This doesn't make any sense please
@Atheel_02
@Atheel_02 3 жыл бұрын
Bp outsold mmm in both art and talent what u talking bout😭
@notyourdays
@notyourdays 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you Love to set up your flopping faves like that, lmao
@maureendennisabance3876
@maureendennisabance3876 3 жыл бұрын
It's like, you listen to BP when youre at yout teenage years, but lsiten to MMM when you turn into a woman :D
@mikaellabitoon7308
@mikaellabitoon7308 3 жыл бұрын
@@あさひ-w7x they are just papular not the best group other group can even make the crowd scream without dancing hard
@あさひ-w7x
@あさひ-w7x 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikaellabitoon7308 u idiot I just wrote the comment from my side just don't roast me. Don't act like you know them. They still best girl group in 21st century. They got beauty. 🇰🇷👍💯
@Artyscaless
@Artyscaless 3 жыл бұрын
@@あさひ-w7x yeah K-pop kings: BTS K-pop queens: blackpink. (Don't attack me. It's just MY oppinion)
@あさひ-w7x
@あさひ-w7x 3 жыл бұрын
@@Artyscaless I appreciate that bro we fine. For 🖤BLΛƆKPIИK💗 ⠀ 。゚゚・。・゚゚。 ゚。 。゚ ゚・。・゚ ︵ ︵ ( ╲ / / ╲ ╲/ / ╲ ╲ / ╭ ͡ ╲ ╲ ╭ ͡ ╲ ╲ ノ ╭ ͡ ╲ ╲ ╱ ╲ ╲ ╱ ╲ ╱ ︶
@Artyscaless
@Artyscaless 3 жыл бұрын
@@あさひ-w7x yo I'm not bro am sis.
@arkanalmalti2486
@arkanalmalti2486 4 жыл бұрын
Hwasa is best vocal and rap* Solar is best vocal and visual* Wheeni is best dancer* Moonbyul is best rapper* 💚💚💚💚
@lilaclove1165
@lilaclove1165 3 жыл бұрын
Duh what a lie.
@lydana1208
@lydana1208 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilaclove1165 um?
@lilaclove1165
@lilaclove1165 3 жыл бұрын
@@lydana1208 They are good but not the BEST. Many idols are there how can MMM be the best ?
@lydana1208
@lydana1208 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilaclove1165 I mean u got point tho. Every idol/artist are amazing on their own
@lilaclove1165
@lilaclove1165 3 жыл бұрын
@@lydana1208 Yep. And mature fans never compare their idols with other idols they appreciate everyone's talent.
@cheeneabi8740
@cheeneabi8740 3 жыл бұрын
Damn... wheein is such a smooth dancer, and honey like vocals is in a league of its own..
@yah883
@yah883 4 жыл бұрын
Of course MAMAMOO the Vocal QUEEN... MAMAMOO debut 2014 but sadly I just Became are moomoo in 2016 since than until now iam a moomoo.... My no 1 girlgroup....
@Leeknowknows_143
@Leeknowknows_143 2 жыл бұрын
Both are awesome but in my opinion mamamoo vocal are just ethereal 🛐
@tia1794
@tia1794 3 жыл бұрын
Lol compare less ...mamamoo...hands down !
@saint.chenaniah
@saint.chenaniah 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a multistan and my first group to stan is blackpink and last year, i became a moomoo and everyday i'd still find mamamoo's talents genuinely surprising. It's not that blackpink isn't talented or they're not passionate enough, but mamamoo has gone through so much more and they literally started from nothing, being judged by their looks, but when you look at their work, it's very transparent and inspiring. But other groups such as blackpink are being placed in a certain concept, or even caged. It's just that mamamoo can literally fight their ceo just to do their thing and apparently it's always sooooo good. In conclusion, stop pertaining of these people as idols, let them be the artists they wanna be. (Like, look how mamamoo's beauty is channelled according to their natural ways. Fluffy cheeks, whisker dimples, monolids, curvy body and tanned skin)
@Олександра-к6у
@Олександра-к6у 4 жыл бұрын
yessss totally agree and the same thing happened to me!! btw i even got bored with bp after watching shows featuring mamamoo cause they’re hilarious and real, they are not scared to act “silly” and to joke a lot on shows:)) even tho both gg are very talented i just think that mamamoo is a whole package, they always try different concepts and they love challenges, unfortunately, some people still picking on them for their age saying that they are “an old group”
@saint.chenaniah
@saint.chenaniah 4 жыл бұрын
@@Олександра-к6у well i do think of them as an unnie group not just by their age but also because of their daring concepts but,, mamamoo literally never disappoints, they never fail to surprise and never fail to make us laugh. It's the versatility for me 💅
@Олександра-к6у
@Олександра-к6у 4 жыл бұрын
@@saint.chenaniah yessss definitely !!
@migain8747
@migain8747 4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Bongi344
@Bongi344 4 жыл бұрын
I fact (in case you didn't know), they're not actually fight their CEO. The CEO IS JUST AS CRACKHEAD. Look at the reallife prank scene in their debute song, whose idea is that? And many more evidences.
@ninaariesta
@ninaariesta 4 жыл бұрын
Maaaaannn, Mamamoo would win every day. And people are too ignorant/shallow to acknowledge it.
@leehan930
@leehan930 2 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo literally make there own shit they don't big company unlike other group they are the real badass women queens 👸
@totsss
@totsss 4 жыл бұрын
The only one who can beat solar’s vocals is solar Edit: guys I get ur point, they’re amazing vocalist everywhere; Wendy, Taeyeon, Wheein, etc. But when I say that “the only who can beat solar’s vocals is solar” I’m *SPECIFICALLY talking about this “competition” between BP and Mamamoo.* I’m not saying that there’s not even a single person who can’t beat Solar’s vocals in the whole kpop, I’m just saying that in this “competition”, FOR ME, none of Blackpink’s members can beat Solar’s vocals.
@almudenagarrido2334
@almudenagarrido2334 4 жыл бұрын
Taeyeon, Yuju, Wendy and more says hi
@totsss
@totsss 4 жыл бұрын
Almudena Garrido Gomez omg ur so right. They all have really strong vocals, I personally really loves Wendy’s vocals. U really have a good taste
@emmanuellaadesanu6544
@emmanuellaadesanu6544 4 жыл бұрын
@@almudenagarrido2334 I agree with Wendy she good
@suchandraroyacharyya7877
@suchandraroyacharyya7877 4 жыл бұрын
Or wheein 🤣
@totsss
@totsss 4 жыл бұрын
marsh mallows I personally don’t really love Rose’s vocals, but it’s ok, I totally respect ur opinion :)
@dyx4304
@dyx4304 3 жыл бұрын
Popularity will fade At the end of the day MAMAMOO will be remembered as ARTISTS and they had already proven themselves as one both soloist and as a group. All 4 of them have great longevity as musician since they are very meticulous when it comes with their musics. Hats off and so much respect for those idols that know how to create and write their own music....👏👏 MAMAMOO JJANGGG.❤️
@Pundir27
@Pundir27 3 жыл бұрын
thats what i think too....
@clawriggeri4691
@clawriggeri4691 3 жыл бұрын
So sad you dont know that BLACKPINK wrote some parts of their songs , they're popular because of their talents and professionalism and especially the impact they gave to the kpop industry for it to be known more internationally. BLACKPINK are QUEENS too , periodt.
@dyx4304
@dyx4304 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I know them first before mamamoo .... I know them because I'm a 2ne1 fan..Mamamoo is just amazing for me coz they don't have the privilege just like from big 3 and they don't have senior in their company unlike BP but they still managed to go on top on their own ... Just pure organic . And I'm not sad I'm happy coz I discover real singers in this kpop world full of mediocre singers...
@youth5956
@youth5956 3 жыл бұрын
Money and sxy girl Here i come kicking the door
@Devutty409
@Devutty409 3 жыл бұрын
@@clawriggeri4691 lol no thyre not talented than Mamamoo
@siaaa8871
@siaaa8871 4 жыл бұрын
I think this comparison is totally wrong cause me myself got introduced to kpop bcs of blackpink and I am a blink but mamamoo is on another level. Like let me get this straight Solar- her vocals can't be compared to this whole 3rd gen except Wendy and Yuju like she is been putting up there with Taeyeon and many grt 2nd gen grt vocalists. She has the versatility, a technique, control over her voice and vibrato and ofcourse outstanding stability when singing high notes. Moonbyul- She is like the Vocal-Rapper one despite the fact she didn't wanted to be rapper but she slayed it totally her flow is no joke and she has one of most written songs (verses) on her name in whole kpop industry as a whole. Wheein- ugh my underrated pup. Her vocals can be said as a one of that top in 3rd gen her voice itself is so angelic and she slays most of the every note she sings she is so controlled over her voice. Hwasa-lmao hwasa is a whole package you should compare her as a solo vs a whole group cause she has vocals,dancing skills with a stunning charisma, a badass visual from birth, and when it comes to stage presence she literally comes after CL and GD literally the gods.(lmao I am tired of explaining how much this girl have). AND AS A WHOLE GROUP THEY ARE MONSTERS THEY HAVE VOCALS, DANCING SKILLS, DUALITY AND WHEN I AM TALKING ABT THIS I MEAN A OUTSTANDING SAVAGE STAGE PRESENCE THEY MAKE IT LIVE KIDS AND IN OPPOSITE OF THAT THEY HAVE THE MOST CRACKHEAD ENERGY THAT I THINK SO NO OTHER GIRL GROUP HAVE AS WHOLE IN KPOP. SO in summary they are ARTISTS and not idols so they cant be compared with IDOLS ANYMORE. And I am hella tired so gonna stop writing now if you start stanning them you will come to know this description was nothing to what they actually have as there own individual personality in the group.
@primavelleprochina0707
@primavelleprochina0707 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I read you're explanation and I swear I was tired of reading it but it's worth it knowing that you also supports Artists than Idols❤️ Thank you. And I was once upon a Blink but didn't last long, and now Im A Moomoo we're I felt so good No hate, I just don't like toxic fan bases.
@siaaa8871
@siaaa8871 3 жыл бұрын
@@primavelleprochina0707 Same will always remain by side of which really possesses talent. I too don't like toxic fandoms (it's like a struggle).Actually after this I came to know much much more abt mamamoo and I literally have some screenshots of people's comments which really states how amazing they are as artists so next time someone starts getting on my nerves with some shitty comparisons I am simply gonna copy paste(as I dont like to type, i myself don't know how did i typed this long..lol) Anyway thank you for reading my another long comment hope you have good time listening to mamamoo, and have a good day:)
@siaaa8871
@siaaa8871 3 жыл бұрын
@hyunjin purse yeah obviously both groups are talented but the only problem with bp is yg, we all know how much yg restricts bp to participate in any process of song and dont even give them chance to showcase what they really want to, that case with mamamoo is upside down one, their company has given them abundant freedom and so now we see them as artists who have already practiced and enjoyed their art In whole new level. I will wait till bp gets what it deserves actually:) Edit- Vocal is something analytical so I ranked them as per there vocal abilities and it is so obvious that mamamoo takes the whole league there. But other then that I can tell everything is preferable and something everyone can have opinions about. So yes according to that both groups are definitely very much talented and grt:)
@btschristiannesks2748
@btschristiannesks2748 3 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo las mejores con talentos únicos
@hwasacomeback8805
@hwasacomeback8805 2 жыл бұрын
Confirmo
@leadiaz9691
@leadiaz9691 2 жыл бұрын
@@hwasacomeback8805 reconfirmo
@user-ib2gq9wp6e
@user-ib2gq9wp6e 4 жыл бұрын
• Vocal [Hwasa vs Jennie] : I’ll choose *Hwasa* ,is simple, her voice is so stable and powerful, I love her husky tone • Rap [Hwasa vs Jennie] : Here I choose *Jennie* just because Hwasa was more a rapper during the debut days and i hear more Jennie as a rapper , I like her flow and how she can rap so damn fast • Vocal [Solar vs Rosé] : *Solar* definitely, her voice is just insane, a perfect main vocal, she’s so stable and damn those high notes, she eats CD’s • Dance [Wheein vs Lisa] : *Lisa* , she’s one of the best dancers in this generation, her flow is no joke and she is very powerful when she dances, I also love so much Wheein dance but here I prefer Lisa • Visual : i don’t like to compare visuals, all the girls are so beautiful in their own way, so I choose *both* • Rap [Moonbyul vs Lisa] : I think blackpink rap is more focused in the velocity, do it fast, I like their style but here i choose *Moonbyul* , her rap have a better technique and the main point here is that she writes all her raps Final ranking : • Mamamoo : 4 • Blackpink : 3
@Олександра-к6у
@Олександра-к6у 4 жыл бұрын
agree with literally everything 😍
@shaktisikha1615
@shaktisikha1615 4 жыл бұрын
Good analysis 👏👏
@ilovenishimurariki
@ilovenishimurariki 4 жыл бұрын
damn, exactly my thoughts
@Isabellabella3126
@Isabellabella3126 4 жыл бұрын
Jennie is the main rapper not Lisa ajajajjaja
@user-ib2gq9wp6e
@user-ib2gq9wp6e 4 жыл бұрын
@@Isabellabella3126 I never said that Lisa is the main rapper;; is said that since the debut Jennie did more raps than Hwasa
@eunhastolemyheart6098
@eunhastolemyheart6098 4 жыл бұрын
MAMAMOO OFC! 💕
@natalieorellana8610
@natalieorellana8610 3 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo all the way...I find them more mature, more interesting to look at and listen to. The chemistry between them is so natural, effortless and genuine. 😍
@yeyaxi9933
@yeyaxi9933 3 жыл бұрын
👑👑MAMAMOO👑👑 👑🏆SOLAR🎤👑 👑🏆HWASA🎤👑 👑🏆WHEEIN🎤👑 👑🏆MOONBYUL🎤👑
@jung_cook
@jung_cook 3 жыл бұрын
@Dulce Torres guerra she is just telling her opinion......what's wrong with that.....😒😒
@karenjazminlopezticona409
@karenjazminlopezticona409 3 жыл бұрын
@Dulce Torres guerra tener menos popularidad no define el talento de ambos grupos por favor dejen la toxicidad ambos fandoms.
@karenjazminlopezticona409
@karenjazminlopezticona409 3 жыл бұрын
@@jung_cook?
@dacie3354
@dacie3354 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo has always been the best. Their vocals and personalities are totally higher than all. But sadly people look at how idols are made to their short shorts and skinny bodies and cutsie acts. Mamamoo has always been underrated, but will always be queens.
@fook_imma_multistan3921
@fook_imma_multistan3921 4 жыл бұрын
fight me idc, but no matter what u say mmm are the best and I love them more than any kpop group out there BTS included
@uribabydontstopchorom3257
@uribabydontstopchorom3257 4 жыл бұрын
YesYesYes 🙌🏻
@crispytripsy3508
@crispytripsy3508 4 жыл бұрын
BTS the best!! After all BTS PAVED THE WAY
@JeongYunho17
@JeongYunho17 4 жыл бұрын
@@crispytripsy3508 please- they paved the way for themselves 😭
@nah4266
@nah4266 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeongYunho17 OOOOOF THAT'S TRUE THO
@fook_imma_multistan3921
@fook_imma_multistan3921 4 жыл бұрын
@@crispytripsy3508 𝒘𝒆𝒍𝒍 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒎𝒂𝒚 𝒃𝒆 𝒃𝒖𝒕 𝑰 𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌𝒆𝒅 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒎𝒚𝒔𝒆𝒍𝒇 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒐𝒑𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒔𝒐...𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑰 𝒅𝒊𝒅𝒏'𝒕 𝒎𝒆𝒂𝒏 𝑰 𝒅𝒐𝒏'𝒕 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝑩𝑻𝑺 𝒊𝒕'𝒔 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝑰 𝒍𝒐𝒗𝒆 𝑴𝒂𝒎𝒂𝒎𝒐𝒐 𝒎𝒐𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒏 𝑩𝑻𝑺 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒎 𝒂𝒏 '𝒂𝒓𝒎𝒚𝒎𝒐𝒐' 𝒂𝒏𝒚𝒘𝒂𝒚...
@cutegirls7265
@cutegirls7265 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo is the best forevermore
@btsmamamoo2754
@btsmamamoo2754 3 жыл бұрын
TBH Solar's high notesss dudeee no one can reach, nooo oneee in the world, it's so powerfulllllllll
@misscellaneous6888
@misscellaneous6888 3 жыл бұрын
Well.. That's ur opinion.. But i think there are many artists who can easily beat her, no offense to mamamoo
@btsmamamoo2754
@btsmamamoo2754 3 жыл бұрын
@@misscellaneous6888 well, that's your opinion.....but for me she is queen of vocals in women groups
@misscellaneous6888
@misscellaneous6888 3 жыл бұрын
@@btsmamamoo2754 well ofc you are entitled to your opinion.. I'm just happy that you are not insulting blackpink.. 😊 Have a good day
@btsmamamoo2754
@btsmamamoo2754 3 жыл бұрын
@@misscellaneous6888 yes of course, I didn't even mentioned that, why would you think like that ?
@misscellaneous6888
@misscellaneous6888 3 жыл бұрын
@@btsmamamoo2754 because, I've seen many moomoos comparing BP to mmm and then saying things like "it's disrespectful to compare a group like mmm to a rubbish grp like BP" so, you know.. its just sad.. Bp has done nothing wrong and people don't realize that rosé is the main vocalist but that doesn't mean that she has to have a voice like a diva.. Rosé is marketed as a pop singer, not a diva, yet she's being compared to solar
@haticegumus9994
@haticegumus9994 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯💯💣💣💣💣💣
@teddyperth3738
@teddyperth3738 4 жыл бұрын
Mamamoo: talented Bp: popularity
@blackpinkforbe
@blackpinkforbe 4 жыл бұрын
both groups are talented, only in some respects one stands out more than the other
@snowy5812
@snowy5812 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackpinkforbe BP is overrated
@teddyperth3738
@teddyperth3738 4 жыл бұрын
@@a54e get the fuck out of here
@teddyperth3738
@teddyperth3738 4 жыл бұрын
@@a54e toxic ones
@mamamoosolar7553
@mamamoosolar7553 4 жыл бұрын
@@a54e i really respect bp but I can't with blinks (if u know what am talking about) than plizzz respect other opinion...
@prepxy9768
@prepxy9768 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of mamamoo and blackpink don't compare them they're both good and talented but I'm still a loyal fan of mamamoo
@SirRickyTang
@SirRickyTang 4 жыл бұрын
I like both groups, but if I had to choose, it's MAMAMOO. They have the vocals. And when they perform live, they sounded better then the studio version.
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