Man or Bear Question Has Nothing On Chris Pratt's Passengers

Do y'all remember that Jennifer Lawrence and Chris Pratt movie and they're alone in space? It's impressively bad
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[@mathewaquino6304]

Ok, and the original ending was even worse. All of the other passengers get ejected. And then the movie cuts 90 years or so into the future when the ship is landing and a whole ton of people get out. That means that these are the descendants of those two who had sex with their own siblings and children and our horrifically inbred. It actually turns out you need 80 to 160 people of wildly different ethnic backgrounds in order to have a genetically stable colony. All of those people are so doomed. Thank God, they changed the ending 🙏❤️

[@stutter_box]

I’m sorry the original end- what do- WHAT!??!!?

[@mathewaquino6304]

@@stutter_box i’m sorry I should’ve made it clear. They never filmed the og ending. This was the original ending of the script. It went through revision before they ever started filming KZbin won’t let me include a direct link, but there are articles about it. But yeah, you cannot have a functional colony based on the descendants of two people. Thank you so much for your videos!

[@stutter_box]

@@mathewaquino6304 oh no, I totally understood. I just don’t want to believe anyone would have the guts to even write such a thing. I gotta say, knowing that makes me like this movie a lot more 😂😂 thanks for that tidbit of info, the people deserved to know

[@SirRebrl]

@@stutter_box 100% chance they didn't _think_ about it and they were Adam and Eve-ing them because they thought it would make the whole thing feel more... something? Meaningful? Fated?

[@blenderpanzi]

@@mathewaquino6304 Minimum of 80? Reminds me of that Star Trek DS9 Episode where a civilisation was sprung up from the crew of the Defiant trapped on a planet. It was about 50 people. Well, I guess some aliens make the genes more diverse? Anyway, the civilisation was erased from existence because of time shenanigans where alternate time line Odo saved Kira's live, preventing the Defiant getting trapped on the planet in the first place. Because he loves Kira, but at that point never told her. Is that kinda the opposite story, and still problematic? But it's not shown as the right decision. It's just that it wasn't this time line's Odo that did it, so the audience doesn't need to forgive him. Later Kira and Odo got together. Don't know what that means.

[@oliviabeaujot8174]

A recurring criticism made when the movie came out was how much better the story would have been if it had been from Jennifer Lawrence POV. It would have play out like a Sci-fi horror/thriller, with Chris Pratt as the villain, and Lawrence character slowly realizing the man she is with, the only other human being alive on the ship, condemned her to a life of loneliness for his own benefice. And it was apparently closer to the original script. From what I recall, the original script ended with Pratt dying and Lawrence, now alone, considering waking up someone else like Pratt did before her.

[@petalchild]

That would have been a lot more interesting

[@catzerk399]

That would likely have been a much more interesting and impactful movie

[@mommabear1986]

Oh wow, thats so psychologically thrilling. Love that concept.

[@Zombiewasabi]

That’s what I was thinking would have made a better movie or this topic. And that ending would’ve been good cause it adds a little moral dilemma and in the mix instead of “this guys a total douche”

[@peytonmac1131]

I don't know. Following Chris' character meant we knew what he went through and why he did it, and it asks the question of what we may have done. If it had followed Jessica's point of view, it would have felt less unique. It just becomes another woman-kidnapped-fights-for-life thriller. I don't think people would even be talking about it now if they lost that unique point of view.

[@K.C-2049]

I could have forgiven the movie if the ending was that Jim sacrificed himself to stay alive and watch over the ship in order to put Aurora back to sleep in her pod. but my god the ending we did get just made it so much worse.

[@stutter_box]

Personally I would have preferred the stalker/thriller third act, Jen fighting for her life, ultimately killing Jim, putting herself in the medical bot and go night night. But any other ending (including her going to sleep and Jim staying awake) would have been better 😂

[@K.C-2049]

@@stutter_box right? like if he would have at least realized what he did was trash and atoned for it, that would have been good. but no, in the tradition of cis gendered white men in media, he does a shit thing and gets rewarded with a hot trophy - I mean woman - for it. yucky. also please don't mind me out here watching your whole as channel lol

[@BelindaShort]

@@stutter_box This would have worked a lot better, but I'm sure they were playing to very specific audiences who would want them to stay together.

[@paigelam6913]

So...he needed to get into a room where only crew members can get into but...wakes up another passenger instead of a crew member?

[@stutter_box]

Crew members were (rather conveniently) also in said room, so he couldn’t get to the crew either. Again, conveniently 😂

[@paigelam6913]

@@stutter_box Ah it's been a while since I've seen the movie. That is indeed very convenient.

[@korganrocks3995]

@@stutter_box The idea of the entire crew being asleep was enough on its own to lower my expectations. You'd need at least two people awake at any given time, taking turns in cryo pods, otherwise you're risking everyone dying because of something innocuous that is beyond the autopilot's ability to solve.

[@ravendarkie]

It’s giving “your immigrant grandma telling you about how your grandfather kidnapped her from her family home back in the ranch/small town and then they fell in love afterwards”

[@stutter_box]

“Because that’s the way things were sweetheart. It was a different time, but we ended up having so much fun together, I didn’t care that he snatched me away from my life” and soon enough you realise your grandma is Laura from 365 Days 😂

[@klarenee1123]

“Grandmaaaa… you little victim!!”

[@ubahfly5409]

@@ravendarkie Oh come on, u tellin me u never sat around the ol' family tree w/ a box of crayons playin "gRaped, Kidnapped, Sold" as a kid ? Wholesome family fun !

[@TVeldhorst]

Why didn't the ship have a contintengy for mechanical problems in the form of waking a maintenance crew? It's a major plothole that makes the main plot of this movie obsolete...

[@FriedFreezer]

Right?! Literally makes no sense.

[@kellifavazza8021]

Haha because "its impossible for there to be a problem". You'd think with people that far advanced in society that they can put people to sleep for hundreds of years and travel to a planet so far away its unimaginable... you'd think they would know that things happen. They should have had the ability to have certain crew members wake up periodically to check on things and then have the ability to go back to sleep. Or, like you said, at the very least have some kind of fail safe for if/when something goes wrong. You can't blindly travel through space and just assume that nothing will ever happen to the ship when it's traveling for over 100 years

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

True what if a problem happened on the journey they would all be f’d over a small situation they could have fixed. That is a very big oversight.

[@JeantheSecond-ip7qm]

The movie could’ve asked an interesting question. He’s woken up and goes a bit insane with the isolation. There’s a problem with the ship that requires two people to fix. He thinks. But he has doubts because he wonders if there is another solution he’s subconsciously ignoring because he wants to wake someone up. Particularly since the very person he wants to wake up has the exact skill set to fix the problem. (Obviously she’s not journalist.) Maybe, he thinks, he even caused the problem in order to need her. It’s all about him questioning his own mind, not that he actually did sabotage the spaceship. He wakes her up to fix the ship because the timetable on fixing the problem is running out. Then she starts questioning whether or not he sabotaged the ship and he isn’t sure he’s didn’t! Oh, the tension, the drama, the ambiguity! Can they come to terms with these questions remaining unanswered and can she trust him? Can he trust himself?

[@stutter_box]

And this is why I don’t think they even tried to make the script work to begin with. I’ve read so many ideas from people who weren’t paid to think about it, that work infinitely better than the movie we got. Like, they just didn’t try 😂 priority numero uno was getting chris and jen to smash and that’s it

[@JeantheSecond-ip7qm]

@@stutter_box Agreed. Sure what I wrote is just a rough start of an idea, but I did in a few minutes. 🙄

[@cassettetape7643]

This is very good actually. As a lover of psychology, I'd watch/read a story like this. Especially with this movies production quality!

[@JeantheSecond-ip7qm]

@@cassettetape7643 Thank you! 😊

[@korganrocks3995]

@@JeantheSecond-ip7qm I swear movie scripts these days are written in less than that time... The amount of movie premises I've seen executed in the worst possible way is so depressing.

[@ubahfly5409]

Aurora has gotta be a "Sleeping Beauty" reference. Creep writer knew what he was doin. Love the idea of Jenny & Chris trapped w/ their own egos on a ship far from the rest of us, but IRL. Movie made me sick.

[@midnighthour733]

it's another take on the Sleeping Beauty story! This time it's in space but makes total sense for a fairy tale....and as I said above....they did live happily ever after.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

But it's also referencing the Shining, the famous wife-abuse-in-isolated-place horror movie. What were they going for here?

[@izanagiuzumaki7325]

I always just thought it would be hilarious if Aurora turned out to be a lesbian.

[@audreyquinn73]

😂😂😂

[@rivendellstarlight]

OMG thank god other ppl feel as strongly about this movie as I did, cause WTF. The last third or so of this movie was UNBEARABLE 😤

[@jahipalmer8782]

This movie pissed me off SO F*CKING HARDCORE! I'm glad other folks realize how this story is so gross.

[@stutter_box]

Hollywood will do anything to avoid telling a realistic, plausible, and most of all, healthy love story. Always has to involve some BS no one asked for 😂

[@JaneNewAuthor]

I'm a lifelong SF fan, and I HATED this movie.

[@korganrocks3995]

@@stutter_box I swear, I didn't see an on-screen love story without needless drama until I stumbled upon Before Sunrise in my mid-twenties! 😄

[@BelindaShort]

Seriously, that movie gave me the worst panic. I just realized the parallels to sleeping beauty with her name being Aurora. They should have gone with the horror ending. It started going that direction when he wouldn't leave her alone on the ship after she got mad at him. What most people don't know is the real story of Sleeping Beauty, which was definitely assault.

[@daivambrosia6647]

A more interesting story that would have made Pratt's character less specifically creepy: instead of *just* waking up Lawrence's character, he wakes up *everybody* on the ship. It becomes a story about a society in isolation, built on rickety legs that Pratt has to hide, with the potential for people to realize a purpose in their grandkids eventually seeing the planet if the hibernation pods don't get fixed. You'd think that a group of the crew would've definitely known how to navigate at least some of the ship's issues; and if not then at least there's a society of people to lessen the loneliness rather than just one trapped person. You get to keep the dubious ethics of ruining people's plans to see this new planet, but at least it's dispersed and not out of some stalkery fantasy. From that point Pratt and Lawrence could still fall in love, but at least there would be other people there and at least upon finding out it might be less unforgivable from Lawrence's perspective. I also just think it speaks to a more human reality: we need a community to be mentally put-together; a lover is not "all we need". Maybe the society would shun Pratt upon finding out what happened, but again - I think it makes a more compelling sociological story and makes Pratt's character less of an "I choose the bear" example.

[@stutter_box]

Though I do agree that having everyone wake up would make for a pretty interesting movie, seeing this massive colony stuck on a ship, trying to find a way to co-exist and return to sleep (because I doubt they’d have enough to feed all passengers and crew members, plus whatever offspring came after, for so long), but if you have Jim waking everybody up then it definitely becomes a “who’s going to kill him first” kind of movie 😂 and honestly, I’d be sat and watching 😂

[@cfox4548]

I watched this movie a few months back and I thought of a better solution within a day than Pratt's character did in a year, which makes the premise stupid. Pratt's pod failed, there are thousands of other pods. He should wake someone up, but who he wakes up should be a doctor, someone who believes in the hippocratic oath who might understand why he woke them up and be able to help figure out how to put Pratt to sleep in their pod, then a month or so later the doctor wakes someone else up, teaches them how to wake up and put someone else back to sleep, then the doctor gets put to sleep and the new person stays awake for a month before waking someone else up, repeat for 90 years. It should probably be mostly doctors or scientists that they wake up, so that it's easier to explain the process, but with thousands of passengers, there should be enough that no one needs to die, they just lose an extra month. Honestly, the crew should have been doing something like that already to avoid the malfunction issues.

[@annabelledrake2027]

you’re a genius ive never thought of this but you’re so right. They should’ve had the crew on rotation so that there were always 2 people awake but no one has to die.

[@mystrangebones]

I saw this ages ago and remembered it as a horror film. 🙃

[@stutter_box]

Your memories were absolutely right

[@ShelleyAIC]

I love your delivery, your snark and most Importantly, your ability to finally call out the toxic BS I've spent a lifetime seeing in movies.

[@mommabear1986]

I recommended him on Dylan is in Trouble's channel, so maybe others will find him ❤

[@Alice-hb7zo]

Omg I watched this movie at the theater in 2016 and I HATED it. I still think about it from time to time and the bad acting and terrible writing still makes me angry

[@nataschavisser573]

Me too. It was terrible. Not only did he effectively kill her, they then went on to waste resources the ship needed to sustain the passengers before they could get food production started on the new colony. How many people did they end up killing?

[@KarmaticBuggAdventures]

At the time of release someone on here edited the movie as if it was a horror and it made so much more sense!

[@srose1088]

I know hair growth shows the passage of time, but if I had nothing to do all year, I'd be switching up hair styles like crazy.

[@strawberriesandcandy]

I once went on a date with a guy who argued with me for half an hour about why this movie was one of the most romantic things he’d ever seen. Obviously there was no second date.

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

Wow that guy is crazy people will show you who they are based on the movies they like. My mother use to tell me the mom from Mother Dearest was the good guy and the daughter was spoiled and the mother deserved better, that the mother gave her everything and got nothing in return. I found out later in life the mother is really the abusive villain in the story, you are not suppose to like her. Always trust peoples favorite movies explains a lot!

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

The guy you were with probably has the insane fantasy of having a woman trapped with him alone. Someone he can control and use with no repercussions or worry of her leaving. Very disturbing for a guy to want full autonomy control from another person.

[@SereFenzi83]

Imagine if in the end, instead of a flock of birds, there was a bear colony. No further explanation needed. That would have been TOOOOO beautiful. 😂

[@themensoguidetowar]

"It's hard nowadays to support anyone" oh god I feel you.

[@iwasonlykidding]

This sounds like a horror movie plot

[@korganrocks3995]

Unironically, it would have made a great horror movie/thriller if we'd gotten to follow Jennifer Lawrence's character the whole way, which seems to be the original intention, until some genius studio executive decided that was too sensible... There is a post-apocalyptic movie about a young woman who survives in some remote valley who then gets joined by two men, so that might be worth watching.

[@toecutterjones]

I can't stand Chris Pratt I wish he would go away.

[@mariajosevelez3925]

A meet "non consent" cute between a guy and a woman, just like an outerspace 365. And btw I feel the same way about Chris Brat

[@stutter_box]

I’m sensing a recurring theme in these movies. It’s almost like these love stories can’t realistically coexist consent. Instead, let’s cross all boundaries to bring the next big love story to a screen near you! 🤗

[@mariajosevelez3925]

@@stutter_box I know right???

[@K.C-2049]

@@stutter_box because consent isn't dramatic or exciting. duh. (and this is me being facetious I do not endorse this sentiment at aaaaaaaall)

[@mellowthm566]

​@@K.C-2049😅 right?! Anytime irl someone starts saying consent isn't exciting (in whatever context cuz eww) i look them in the eye and say,"Skill. Issue."

[@t.rochellestewart6346]

I read a review a while ago that said the movie would have been more entertaining/tolerable if it played out from the POV of Auroa …and slowly revealing towards the end that it was him who woke her up…. M night Shyamalan twist😂😂 but of course a narcissistic man wrote the script so we got this BS instead! 🤦🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

[@stutter_box]

I read something like that too, and it sounded so much better than what we got. A truly suspenseful thriller where you don’t know is Jim is telling the truth or not. And then he goes bananas and she has to fight for her life. Incredible how so many people have already come up with better ways to do this movie, yet whoever got paid to make it couldn’t 😂

[@marymaza2187]

ALL the other passengers in cryo-sleep who could have helped him fix his problem: engineers, mechanics, technicians... But, no, he decides the WRITER he just happens to have a crush on is the best option to help him.

[@JuelzLoren]

Im so happy I found your channel. Ive been binge watching your content over the last few weeks. you bring me a nice escape from the soiled dumpster fire which is living in America. Thank you. I hope your channel continues to grow and you gain a massive following.

[@stutter_box]

Thank you for the kind words, and equally happy you found the channel! Welcome aboard 🤗

[@HaleyStark.]

The science is annoyingly convenient, but I thought the psychology was pretty realistic. Solitary confinement is literally used as torture. People in prison have attempted suicide after a couple months of it. I dont think any of us know what we would actually do in a situation where we are were facing 80 years of no interaction with anyone ever.

[@MikaelBCN]

My wife calls this movie Hotties in Space, since that's the whole plot

[@stutter_box]

Your wife makes a great point 😂

[@markengle2199]

That’s it! If Chris’ character was played by a big unattractive guy it would be obvious he is a monster

[@missedem]

It was free to watch online, recently, in my country. I remember asking my GC, "Do you think Jim scavenged Aurora's first class breakfast after he scared her away from it?" And the answer was a resounding "OF COURSE HE DID." Because none of us expect anything more from the roach that is Jim.

[@rayniebee]

The fact that this movie had such a great premise and so many interesting ideas, and yet squandered them on a problematic let's-ignore-the-consent-violation-and-stalking-behavior make it so much more infuriating. Like, a great movie was riiiiight there, and they missed it.

[@korganrocks3995]

A great premise squandered is a terrible sin, unfortunately one that is all too common in Hollywood these days. I'm a sucker for time travel, space, sci-fi and fantasy, and I'll give just about any movie a shot if it ticks one of those boxes, and it is depressing how often they manage to execute a premise in the only way to make it suck.

[@LukeLovesRose]

Yeah but all sins should be forgiven if someone is willing to repent. Platts character knew what he did was wrong. He was honest with her... eventually. That means he was willing to repent. That's why Jesus Christ will always be better than any of you sanctimonious.... today

[@korganrocks3995]

@@LukeLovesRose You might wanna go read up on the stuff Jesus said, cuz not all of it was hippy-ish love thy neighbor stuff. "Slaves, obey your masters" alone disqualifies the bible from being even in the competition, let alone being morally superior to us.

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@korganrocks3995 LMAO. Whatever

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@korganrocks3995 Ignorance is bliss aye?

[@hayleyjarrett808]

Why didn't he look up a crew member with the skills to fix his pod and wake them up?

[@stutter_box]

Crew members were also stuck in the room he couldn’t open. The irony is, in the end, it wouldn’t have mattered. The pods were unfixable because they never malfunctioned. A lot of waffling for no reason in the end 😂

[@FriedFreezer]

I guess the crew were in the room he couldn’t open but since he could apparently read all about the passengers and see their interviews (WHY?!) why not try to find someone with an applicable skill set? Truly just absolute Swiss cheese of a plot

[@user-ou2tv3wi8u]

Another frustrating part about this movie was how Jim shows absolutely no remorse. 🙄

[@milenalubosch8888]

Ok but if these pods always work then why are all these luxurious amenities available on board of this ship? If you’re just transporting sleepy peeps then why need a pool? A bar man? Whyyyyyyyyyyy

[@litadynelly731]

I loved some of the details of the ship, like the gravitational force built into the ship (that's why we see all these rotating pieces on the outside of the ship). I loved their chemistry, as you explained. And I'm all for vengeance for Aurora, but since she's no mechanic, and Brat happens to be one, she should have hobbled him Misery style, kept him locked up in a room, and only let him out with that crowbar in her hands and to fix things as needed around the ship.

[@stutter_box]

YES!! That’s exactly what was annoying. Technically, the movie is beautiful and very well made, and the acting is great too. If only that god awful story could be changed 😂 Also, kinda living for that brutal ending, that would have been fun to see

[@naniskinks6098]

I love how petty you are. Yes!

[@stutter_box]

I may go, but so does everyone else! 😂😂

[@Katy133]

I remember ages ago someone online (I forget who or where, but I think it was Tumblr) talking about how this could have been a potentially excellent horror thriller film if the story was told through the woman's POV and we learn about what happened before she woke up at the same time she started figuring things out (instead of knowing everything before she does like in the actual film). That way, the story becomes about the horror of trusting someone and relying on them in a situation, only to realise that you can't trust them at all and you are trapped in said situation with them.

[@stutter_box]

You’re absolutely right, and a few people have pointed out the same. There’s a video (can’t remember the name) and they break down the movie in the “main turning point” (i.e he wakes up, she wakes up, she finds out he woke her, etc) and then reorganizes them, and by changing some of the narrative beats, as well as the atmosphere, it could have been an incredible psychological thriller. Instead, we got 365 Days - 90 of them in Space

[@Katy133]

@@stutter_box Thank you for the video, I really enjoyed listening to your thoughts on this film!

[@sagamaraia]

Lawrence did state as she was making Hunger Games that she was pretty much the first female action hero ever. That really spoiled Jennifer for me. She doesn't really seem to know that much about movies she herself is not in.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

tbf if Chris Pratt woke me up before my full 9 hours I'd be as ferally repelled as a bear with insomnia mid-hibernation.

[@okoala62]

Great review, I, too, hated this movie with a passion. WTF - where is a bear?! I’d take a bear over Chris Brat

[@Flemmli1]

For a romance, this story should have given both leads a malfunctioning pod. Without the element of Jim waking Aurora up against her will because he was lonely, it already gets less problematic.

[@grrlwriter]

This plot makes me hyperventilate. Also, all that technology, they couldn't have been treating Lawrence Fishburne while he was in his pod. Oh nope, needed him to magically die

[@TheMightyPika]

This concept would have made one HELL of a horror movie. Like, a really fucked up episode of the Twilight Zone and it ends in disaster.

[@EdwardLewis-r2x]

I saw this in theaters and I was PISSED. The trailer made it seem like it was gonna be some kinda space horror it was trashhhh

[@rebeccaed2018]

Ah yes, the pressure of career and ambition truly are exhausting. Wish some random guy would entrap me in space for life, so romantic. The real dream is for someone to fall in love with me while I sleep. :)

[@akrasiels4001]

I’d bet my last quarter that Harrison Butker loves this movie.

[@mewmedic]

So funny that they brought a great actor like Laurence Fishburne into this movie just have him do magical exposition and then immidately die.

[@Jamietheroadrunner]

It still made $300 million at the box office just based on her name. You can’t deny Jennifer’s star power.

[@stutter_box]

That you cannot. Hollywood wanted to put these two stars together because they knew it would be a hit. And it was a hit. And an assault on all our senses 😂

[@alicjakrag313]

Question to yourself what would you do? Being alone without human interaction does drive you crazy literally.

[@stutter_box]

I would probably try and enjoy the most of the facilities and eventually…take myself out

[@korganrocks3995]

I would have given up on the unbreakable door and try to get into the crew quarters through a wall, because clearly there's something wrong with the damn ship and the crew need to hear about it.

[@LukeLovesRose]

​@@korganrocks3995So you're okay with killing one of the crew members, just not another passenger??

[@korganrocks3995]

@@LukeLovesRose I'm saying I'm smart enough to realise that something was wrong with the ship, so waking up a crew member is necessary to save the lives of EVERYONE on the damn ship. If small things are malfunctioning, that means there's a very real risk that more crucial parts of the ship might not be working properly.

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@korganrocks3995 Chris's character was also breaking down. He needed help, mental and emotional help. He needed Aurora or else he would've died alone and misery. That's not fair to wish on anyone.

[@audreyquinn73]

Aurora is the name of the princess in Disney's animated film, "Sleeping Beauty." This is an allusion to how Chris Pratt's character fell in love with Jennifer Lawerence while she slept. It's an all-to-common and troubling trope of female objectification. Pratt doesn't love Aurora, he doesn't know her, but he's infatuated with jis perception of her. This is the ultimate "Male Gaze" in action.

[@stutter_box]

And I’m just thankful they didn’t go with the original Sleeping Beauty tale, because that would have been actually diabolical

[@Zombiewasabi]

My attachment anxiety ass would’ve been like “it’s okay babe we’re together now” but then my avoidant ass would have been like “I wanna break up” a month into it

[@Zsokorad]

Here is how you fix the movie. Replace Chris Pratt with Joaquin Phoenix and have him play the character meek and nerdy like he was in the movie "Her". Have it so he was browsing a bunch of different people's files out of boredom and loneliness, and when hers comes up he's fascinated by her. He leans forward absent-mindedly and accidentally presses buttons that cause her hibernation pod to turn off. He feels absolutely horrible and is afraid to admit the truth of how she woke up. You can see it eating away at him in every scene as they fall in love. Then instead of her finding out on her own, he stops her from trying to kiss him and shamefully admits the truth himself. Proceed with the rest of the movie.

[@stutter_box]

See, waking her up by accident, that could have worked. Immediately you remove the absolute diabolical decision he makes in the actual movie, instead replacing it with an incredibly unfortunate incident that ultimately leads them to find each other and build a life. Sounds a lot better than whatever we ended up getting

[@sascha7705]

So glad I’ve discovered your channel! I really enjoy your nuanced thoughts and snarky comments. You thread the needle well :)

[@stutter_box]

Welcome aboard!

[@mariajosevelez3925]

Love you Portuguese Queen!!!!

[@hannahbanana8073]

Glad to find this video in my recommended! Very entertaining, just subscribed!

[@stutter_box]

Welcome aboard!

[@MadiganinPeach]

15:50 a mood tbh. Gotta get in those clouds to get by but then you can't figure out wtf is goin on around you enough to speak 😂 (I also may be too high rn)

[@stutter_box]

Got there in the end though (in my head) 😂

[@Bananner94]

I worked on the stereoscopics for this movie. It was a frustrating experience, and as a result I never watched the movie in full, and now I never have to thank you so much hahah

[@stutter_box]

Sorry for the bad experience, but happy to help! 😆

[@Kassie0ate0a0cow]

I’m so glad I found this channel bless

[@annabelledrake2027]

this movie reminds me of the love death and robots episode about the evil space spider that traps the MCs spacecraft and tricks him into believing she’s a woman he knows.

[@stutter_box]

YES!!! 🙌🏻 also, what a show!

[@rorohawk9950]

Didn't this movie allegedly break up Chris Pratt and his ex wife? *Grinch smirk*

[@kellifavazza8021]

Am i like the only person that actually kind of liked this movie? Yes it is wrong for him to have woken someone up. It seems easy for everyone to say "i would have just spent the 80+ years on this ship completely by myself", but in reality... no one would really do that. I think most people would have probably tried every other thing possible before waking someone up but like, 80 years or so is a REALLY LONG TIME to be alone. Plus the existential dread of floating through space alone and not having anyone to talk to. Regardless, he gave jennifer lawrence the opportunity to go back into the pod at the end and she chose not to. So she could have absolutely done that, but she chose not to leave him. So they made the best of their situation. But also, when the main crew guy (lawrwnce fishborne) woke up, he should have woken other crew members up that would be able to fix stuff and then maybe they could figure out how to all go back to sleep. I dont know why he didnt do that.

[@korganrocks3995]

The answer to your question is "so the movie can happen". If it wasn't a movie they'd have crew members taking turns being awake in case something weird happens.

[@LukeLovesRose]

I agree. It was wrong. He knew he was wrong. He repented. Everyone who hates this movie is incapable of empathy and forgiveness

[@korganrocks3995]

@@LukeLovesRose It's all very well to repent your wrongdoings, but that doesn't magically remove the harm you caused. Jennifer Lawrence's character suffered because of his actions, and if they hadn't figured out the medical pod workaround she'd have been doomed to live out her life on the ship and die before it reached its destination. No amount of repentance would make up for that.

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@korganrocks3995 Yes and?? What do you think it means to turn your cheek? It means move on. It means forgive and forget because life is too short to carry around that burden. Many Christians have gotten over many painful atrocities in their lives and grown stronger, and healthier thanks to this powerful Message from Christ

[@korganrocks3995]

@@LukeLovesRose I mean, if the choice is to forgive or live out the next 50 years alone on a spaceship while not talking to the one other human there it's not really a genuinely free choice. I do think none of us actually know which choice we'd actually make if put in that situation, so it's pointless to claim one way or another.

[@rutherfrogp.wilmington4907]

I loved Tie Me Up Tie Me Down and even though the theme in that one was much more overtly executed, Passengers creeped me out so much. Great breakdown

[@irreverentbard7322]

I, too, hate Chris Pratt.

[@user-ou2tv3wi8u]

This movie is very entertaining all the way up to the point Aurora starts to forgive Jim. They could have had her put aside her hatred to work with him to repair the ship, he could have still figured out how to put her back to sleep in the med pod, and she could have forgiven him some what understanding the loneliness and desperation he felt. But still have gone back to sleep in the med pod. It was so frustrating to me to see her do a 180 out of no where and still be in love with him. That scene where she woke him up to kick his ass, was the most satisfying scene in the movie.

[@LukeLovesRose]

You people are incapable of Christian forgiveness. Turn the other cheek you know??

[@artistessa]

I respect your opinion and appreciate you sharing this. I can see why it made you think of the man vs. bear thing as well. I think if they hadn't emphasized how messed up it was of CPs character to wake up JLs character, I would've really hated this movie. But they adressed it, and I liked that they revealed it to her character after we realized the severity of it to build up suspense. Of course it has other flaws on top of that - it's not perfect and no story/movie out there is. I see this movie as just another unrealistic "what if" scenario like all most other entertainment media people create and consume. Whether I or someone else likes/dislikes it is personal preference and doesn't bother me either way, and having good or bad things to have these kinds of discussions about and educate each other about what is right or wrong based on a fictional story is good overall in my opinion!

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Crazy that Aurora seems to be a reference to Sleeping Beauty, while Arthur/Michael Sheen appears to be based on Lloyd from The Shining. Weird interior design that ship had; I dunno if I'd reference THAT Kubrick for my space hotel. Anyways those weirdly orthogonal reference points may point to a Tone Problem lol.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Hey StutterBox --- you + your art are what I'm here for. It sucks the sudden visibility boost always comes with extra eyes wearing Bad Faith Goggles, bringing their Self-Grinding Axes. I'm not into parasocial stuff, I know you're making videos for the public, we're not pals. But human-to-human, it's hard work to discover how to created yourself or re-commit to your personal process of making stuff again after a change in how what you make is received or made. You got this, & your audience is finding you. Please don't give energy to noise + static. Make what you want to, how you want to. I'm along for the adventure & I look forward to witnessing your growth. Happy blossoming!

[@stutter_box]

This really means the world to me, so thank you. Truly. It’s been a great journey and I’m loving seeing my audience grow and enjoy the videos and all my thoughts. And don’t worry, for every bad faith comment, I focus on the other 10 lovely ones. Thank you for the support, doesn’t go unnoticed 🤗

[@matthewconstantine5015]

I hated Passengers sooooooo much. It feels like it was supposed to be a Horror film, but somewhere in rewrites and studio notes, it got turned into a "Romance," and that made it so, so much worse. Awful. Just awful. I'm a straight dude, and I'd choose the bear.

[@sarahjane9374]

My ex loving this movie should’ve been the first red flag 😂

[@robinronin]

Oh, I remember this one. A bear would NEVER have done that sht to her, and the writers also wouldn’t have made her the bear’s happy wifey. Justice must be served 😭

[@LukeLovesRose]

Christian forgiveness. Turn the other cheek

[@cassielcruzchavolla809]

I haven't watched this film since I was 16 but I was traumatised, I always bring it up to complain about it, haha

[@Year1550]

I haven't seen this movie. Isolation horror is a staple of scifi.. that's kinda what I was expecting from 'Passangers'. Kinda glad I watched this review. Not gonna see it now. Having said that... it is horrifying to be in a situation where you wake up and you're trapped on a space ship. Should Chris Pratt immediately have killed himself? The sleeping beauty angle is creepy af, but I don't know if most humans would choose not to try to wake up at least one of the other passengers. The moral thing to do in any situation is to just die. 😅

[@alilwoozyhere]

I just wish they had the balls to go full into making it a psychological horror

[@stutter_box]

In an ideal world…

[@Saranewberry0599]

Thank you for backing us on the bear question

[@marymaza2187]

8:07 That was my reaction when he reasoned opening her pod just because he was "so lonely."

[@madalynnmccarron4590]

"write a book" hey y'all, it's July which means as well as disability pride month, it's a Camp NaNoWriMo, which encourages you to!!! Write!!! A!!! Book!!!! Want to know why you should write a book? The people who love you now one day will not have you, but if you write them a book, even if you don't publish it, they'll always have a piece of your heart, soul, blood, sweat, and tears, and if it's autobiographical, they'll always have the stories you told them, the treasures you gave them, but from you're point of view. WRITE A BOOK. WRITE YOUR STORY. ITS WORTH SHARING! Also great video, loved it, excellent video.

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

14:54 yes, that would have made this movie 1000x better. Like if the start we can justify his lonliness then we see they are compatible and it’s going great. Then she finds out gets mad and he starts doing more things are are exsclating like the viewers didnt see the signs either like her at first but now they are glaring. A thriller of her getting away from him then also her contemplating waking someone else up to help her or if they will hurt her too or be furious it is ending their lives. Her having to ponder the same thing he did to her. Or just a cool trying to stay away from him and ultimately killing him while not exploding the ship. A thriller would have been so good!!!

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

I watched it a long time ago. Thought it wasn’t so weird it is weird looking back on it. It is creepy he choose a woman to wake up for a reason he wanted a bit more than just company from loneliness.

[@ShoutoutToTrees]

If he had to wake someone up why wouldn't spend time trying to find someone who could get him access to the repair equipment room?? How on earth is the WHOLE damn crew asleep anyways?? There should be someone awake (in shifts) overseeing the journey. Like in 2001 a space Odyssey. And surely on this ship carrying 5000 people they should've had spare pods in case of emergencies! Ships have lifeboats- even when they're confident they won't sink! Jim fixes this impossibly complex with the ship's main computer, but he can't figure out how to fix his pod/ rig access to some fixing equipment? How could they justify it as 'she's finally satisfied in life' in this situation?? Her future is gone and she has no access to anyone other than Bratt. How isolating! Why would they decide to spam greenery all over the ship? 1- how?? 2- Wouldn't that run the risk of ever damaging something in the ship? Or someone else's pod? I hate this stupid movie

[@stutter_box]

And to think the same person who wrote this also adapted Dune, which came out great, is truly confusing. The movie is a non-stop flow of red flags 😂

[@Brodo500]

There was this video when the movie was released that suggested and did a re edit. The guy basically said the plot would be better as a horror ans done from Jennifer Lawrence character. It would have been way better.

[@mommabear1986]

I've never seen the movie, so this is great! 🎉 thank you!

[@jodiekeenan3005]

Half you guys cracked under quarantine in 2020, so whatever, leave your little comments

[@liallialcroc]

did you know Jennifer Lawrence when through playing katniss in the hunger games and was mostly on the right politically at the time lol everyone said it was funny she was acting in the movies and not even getting the point of the films she was in

[@stutter_box]

I remember an interview in which she claimed she only stopped voting republican when Donald Trump ran because “that was too far, even for me”, yet here she is, continuing to support the wrong side of history. Best thing I did was convince myself no matter who an actor plays in movies, we never know what they’re truly like in person (i.e. Frenchie from the Boys, whose character struggles with having made bad choices, and is now part of team trying to save from a fascist movement - played by none other than a very vocal zionist. So much to learn, so much not learned, it’s WILD)

[@MadameCorgi]

​@stutter_box the hardest thing about confronting injustice is that people upholding it don't see it as unjust.

[@thiccrat]

literally how does youtube finally place random good shit on my front page instead of like, horrific true crime or other CRAP. btw, why are there suddenly 15 commentary youtubers with mustaches and long hair???

[@blenderpanzi]

Halfway through thr video: why doesn't he waje up someone who has the authority to go to the room with the equipment to repair the pods?

[@stutter_box]

Their pods were also in the room he couldn’t get into. Conveniently 😒😒😒

[@sonofthefakegod]

“My negative comments are not directed at the actors “ right after he specifically called out the actors, uhmm

[@stutter_box]

One avidly supports a homophobic/right-wing funded church, the other is besties with a zionist with a massive global platform. Should we not be calling these things out? Other than that, I kept their actual persons out of the conversation 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@sonofthefakegod]

@@stutter_box still doesn’t change the fact that u call the person regardless of there personal view/opinions instead of just the movie/characters out, so own it or don’t do it, otherwise is just lame

[@mellowthm566]

This is what i call a blink twice movie. The kind of movie you want to ask the actor to break 4th wall and blink twice if they're getting paid enough or shake their heads for no. Lot of the time "bad acting" more is bad script+ bad directing. Oh😮 it could be "blink twice if the script is in the room with you ". This movie seemed very salvage at so many points but the ship was determined to hit the ice.

[@Sgublaka94]

I cand stand Crisp Rat but I tried to watch the movie and failed. After she told him to stay away from her the movie threw such a pity party for him trying to make the watcher feel bad for him and that was when I lost it.

[@stutter_box]

🆘 From now on I am only calling him as Crisp Rat 😂😂😂

[@noheroespublishing1907]

I'm going to throw in my two cents here, nobody will care, but here goes. "Passengers" is more that Old School science fiction, the kind we don't really get much anymore, think the original "Solaris" or "2001 a Space Odissey" or even "Sunshine". It's not really a movie about what it's about, it's partially allegorical, as far as I can read it. The film is basically an Anti-Natalist Parable about Life, a person "Wakes Up" involuntarily (is born), they are alone, Life cannot be alone and will die alone and without any potential for fulfillment because they will not reach a destination, solitude is not the state of the Living, so the only solution to this problem of Life is to "Wake Somebody Else" (birth another person involuntarily for the company of the living; all parenthood is a selfish act, nobody needs to be born, life is in no way essential) however, as all Anti-Natalists understand, to force another Life is to cause them to suffer the pain of living, the line "You Murdered Me!" can be said by any child to any parent, for to live is to be condemned to death, but also to live we need community or we suffer emotionally and become suicidal; as shown in the film. This is reinforced throughout, as the wonderment of being alive is only wonderful with another being to share it with, it's why even at the end the wronged person is begging not to be left alone; the great fear of the living, that empty void that invites Death's whispers; boredom, loneliness, and depression. It's philosophical speculative science fiction, not the greatest by any stretch, but as an Anti-Natalist myself, even if the authors didn't intend it, this is the movie I would use to illiterate the point, inartful perhaps but very simple and effective.

[@korganrocks3995]

You ain't wrong, but if that's what a film maker wants to achieve, they need to lay off the non-consensual romance.

[@noheroespublishing1907]

@@korganrocks3995 The nonconsensual aspect is all birth, that is the point, again it's an awkward analogy, but basically nobody is an Anti-Natalist so it's difficult to use other examples without getting too explicit and preachy. It's more my reading of it, but that's all I got out of it; it's not a great film by any stretch, but it is not without it's worthwhile analyzing.

[@korganrocks3995]

@@noheroespublishing1907 Fair enough, I actually quite enjoyed the movie despite its many flaws, and I'm old enough to have stopped expecting perfection from arts/media. I'll take what I can get out of a movie and try not to get too annoyed by the nonsensical creative decisions made.

[@sidlazzar1002]

IMAGINE. You probably paid a lot of money to head to a new destination and a straight man wakes you up? Not even a gay man. Now that would be a gagged movie 😂

[@Dalasjanetluv]

I loved this flick ….

[@Thenewboidahlia]

Genuinely, why? Everyone I knew at the time it came out HATED it

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

11:20 that was a beautiful plan omg I hate CHris Pratts character more now I forgot that

[@theguilloriousmind5832]

I also hated this movie

[@kmaguire7161]

Okay first of all if I wake up early I am waking all of y'all up. Not just one person I fell in love with I'm opening up all the pods. I don''t even like people and would probably prefer just being alone on the ship but if I get unlucky I'm taking you all down with me. That out of the way there were so many ways they could have made this movie better. One would have been to have the movie be a psychological thriller told from JLaw's point of view and have it start when she wakes up and slowly she and the audience realize what happened and in a series of flashbacks we see Pratt's story and his decision to wake her. She boots him out of an airlock and finds a way to reenter cryosleep and lives happily ever after. The other would be to have Pratt die when he goes outside the ship leaving JLaw all alone and faced with the same dilemma Pratt faced and ending darkly with her deciding to wake someone else up to keep her company.

[@Mojo_Jojo9869]

13:16 BRUH men wrote this movie didn’t they. 😂

[@tophtopherson8920]

🎉

[@yensid4294]

They tried to make a scifi Sleeping Beauty & failed

[@LukeLovesRose]

Well, I love the movie and the outcome. You can call me a creep all you want

[@ps1hagrid786]

@@LukeLovesRose We are well aware of your opinion in all 12 comments. Ease up on the Jesus talk, won't you? You are not doing a very good job of recruiting followers if you annoy all potential candidates. Church is sounding less and less appealing.

[@AldaClaro]

Começa a fazer em portugues por favor❤❤❤

[@roxannequinlan108]

Ayyy I was "like" number 420 heheheh