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@milaonkulukusa1392
@milaonkulukusa1392 2 ай бұрын
That’s the most balanced analysis I have heard all weekend
@justinriet9306
@justinriet9306 2 ай бұрын
Those 2 tried to suck Gerard into an agenda & killed it quick
@BenSmith-ss6gg
@BenSmith-ss6gg 2 ай бұрын
I honestly think it's gone beyond balanced views. There's no excuses anymore for Ten Hag. He can't be defended. This is his team, and we see another performance whereby we are royally taken apart by a far better coached side. Since Wolves on the opening day of last season (bar maybe a handful of games), we have setup and played exactly like that. Easy to play against, easy to play through, no protection for the back 4, tons of shots against, adn a manager that flat out refuses to accept it's an issue.
@fpvaq7378
@fpvaq7378 Ай бұрын
@@BenSmith-ss6gg Ten Hag cant manage united. The jobs too big for him. you really need a high profile manager. Mourinho, Zidane, Poch...Ten Hag is rubbish
@MrFooFighter13
@MrFooFighter13 2 ай бұрын
Lamps was actually very balanced and fair in his analysis. Props... Shay not so much.
@TheAtticradio
@TheAtticradio Ай бұрын
true. lampard has been a manager shay hasn't and it shows
@not2busy
@not2busy 2 ай бұрын
I am not a Man Utd fan but after having watched the replays, I cannot see how the second goal is Casemiro's fault. He was the last one holding the ball but got knocked off and Liverpool took possession. There were 6 Man Utd players behind to stop the play of 3 Liverpool attackers and they didn't do their job. It seems to be a habit of the Man Utd fanbase to single out individuals and make them the scapegoats for losses. No one talks about the failure of the offence to score a single goal in a home match.
@robertnegron9706
@robertnegron9706 2 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct, if it happened to Liverpool, their defenders are way more aggressive and would not have let Man U score.
@ricosuave3377
@ricosuave3377 2 ай бұрын
Are fanbase are spoilt brats who have caused a toxic mentality with unrealistic expectations🤣 only pep and Carlos could handle the expectations of the United fanbase.
@Trapattoni21
@Trapattoni21 2 ай бұрын
And don't forget about the 3rd goal too. Mainoo got caught in the same situation that Casemiro's in when he try to pick a pass as the lone pivot while their wingers, striker, the no.10 (Bruno), and Collyer who's supposed to be a part of the double pivot somehow finds himself away from Mainoo while drifting forward in the 10 position. And Mainoo have Liverpool's 3 man midfield hounding him at his every move in which caused that mistake to happened. Not to mentioned the fact that Amad who comes in around the last 20 minutes of the game has the second most touches in the penalty box behind Salah is baffling to me. The guy's been playing good and yet Ten Hag puts him on the bench in a must-win game against United's arch rivals?? If anything, Ten Hag should deserves more stick going his way than Casemiro cuz they played the way they were because of his setups and tactics (or lack thereof)
@NeilLewis77
@NeilLewis77 2 ай бұрын
Yes but losing the ball for the second goal was about his 6th mistake. It's not just man united fans saying casimiro was shocking. He was hooked at half time with good reason. His confidence was shot and he needed saving. It's not just a case of man u fans scapegoating him. He was genuinely awful and cost him team goals.
@Mjthedirector06
@Mjthedirector06 2 ай бұрын
It's not that one incident he's been making countless mistakes, for a while now even when we won, he's so slow now, not just the legs even him processing info, and he's less aware of his surroundings now ...there's one point in the game where he has the ball and just leaves it for some reason.... I think it's time he moves on , thought that since last season to be honest
@dpal7668
@dpal7668 2 ай бұрын
Lampard is by far the best ex player pundit
@babatundeomoniyi2377
@babatundeomoniyi2377 2 ай бұрын
And Owen Hargreaves…the rest are sensationalist idiots that just talk out of the a*** most times. Even some that are accomplished failed managers come and talk gibberish as informed opinions. 🙄
@edemasuquo4775
@edemasuquo4775 2 ай бұрын
He has first hand experience of what It means to have an irregular squad, so he understands the pains of. managers
@diegobarbosa7529
@diegobarbosa7529 2 ай бұрын
As a manager in the other hand...
@alexanderoffor3359
@alexanderoffor3359 2 ай бұрын
Because he has actually coached before and understands the insides of coaching
@meonly6471
@meonly6471 2 ай бұрын
Nonsense he's useless full stop
@jayforeverrollin
@jayforeverrollin 2 ай бұрын
Playing a 4-2-4 is tactically crazy. Kobbie and Casemiro are given the responsibility to cover an unrealistic amount of ground while also having to build up passes. Bruno needs to play like an actual midfielder and with that there's balance in attack, and in defense... Thats the only thing that's wrong...🤷 Apart from individual mistakes and performances
@ssnn4889
@ssnn4889 2 ай бұрын
Agree Bruno need to come play in the middle. Not helping the team being upfront
@jayforeverrollin
@jayforeverrollin 2 ай бұрын
@@ssnn4889 for real bro. We are too vulnerable and it's too much work for those two CM (Case/Ugarte and Kobbie). Bruno playing as a Midfielder allows Zirkzee to drop to receive the ball and be the incredible false 9 we know him as from Bologna. We have quality across the whole starting 11, probably the best quality we've had at United in a long time. With the right tactics and formation, we are so bloody good on paper. Can't wait till Eth realises it🤦🔴👊
@pedropierre9594
@pedropierre9594 2 ай бұрын
Playing a 4-2-4 without the team being at the very least average at pressing is terribly optimistic from Ten Hag
@leonardunganai8589
@leonardunganai8589 2 ай бұрын
Against Liverpool we just lost our minds after the first goal. We weren’t bad beforehand. I definitely think we missed Mount though.
@jackwardley3626
@jackwardley3626 2 ай бұрын
nothing wrong with playing 4-2-4 Brazil won 3 world cups playing 4-2-4 thats were the 4-4-2 formation originated from man united during Ferguson's time played 4-2-4 at times from a 4-4-2 set up.
@RandomVideosFirst
@RandomVideosFirst 2 ай бұрын
The real test is Arsenal and City , Slot faced an tactically inept united side, the two errors from Casemiro were shocking though and the whole structure fell through its a*s , they chased Ugarte for the last 6 weeks to ultimately be a replacement for Casemiro but left it to the last day of the transfer window to complete the signing and couldn't register him in time to play against Liverpool (Mounts pressing would of helped but hes another problem with his injuries ). If united were serious they would have got him in first straight after the Copa America , Also heard quotes from ETH that Ugarte may need weeks or months to be integrated into the side (I have so many questions about that too ). Ineos wont sack ETH before xmas as the optics would make them look incompetent (having SJR come out and sad that they best possible manager for united ,having opening interview other managers and extended his contract ) . Also I have to add that Fred was a underrated partner to Casemiro in case first season he was there player that cleaned up after case and had the energy to press that allow case to make more risky progressive passes knowing that Fred is his insurance policy if it goes wrong . We saw last season why Fred was actually more important than most thought. The only hope now is that Ugarte who has similar energy levels and better defensive numbers and ability will fill in that area of midfield .
@robertnegron9706
@robertnegron9706 2 ай бұрын
Spot on analysis of the current situation at Yanited.
@pauloconnor5850
@pauloconnor5850 Ай бұрын
As an Irishman and UTD fan, kudos to Lampard for that balanced, unbiased and very fair analysis. Wudnt of Given him that at the start. 😉
@flyaway6671
@flyaway6671 2 ай бұрын
Ten Hag bought players he had before though: Antony, Lisandro, now De Ligt. Also he really wanted Mason Mount and the club got him in. That's some good personal backing so we can't say it was all poor club signings.
@tc98826
@tc98826 2 ай бұрын
Antony is arguably our worst signing of all time and that was all Ten Hag.
@SirArtsy
@SirArtsy Ай бұрын
I agree, he was given the reign to get the players he wanted. Time to show the results on the pitch.
@sonicryu2769
@sonicryu2769 Ай бұрын
Mount is just as bad. Literally a ghost on wages
@zorashki
@zorashki 2 ай бұрын
Lampard is a great pundit he knows whats up.. he could be not that good as a manager but as a pundit its 10/10
@Verziroo
@Verziroo Ай бұрын
He didn’t do too badly as a manager, especially at Chelsea. Transfer ban, still finished 4th. Second season, top in December, then had a bad month and got sacked. Just Chelsea things. Should’ve kept him for 3 years minimum given how young and inexperienced the squad was.
@welwynmanager323
@welwynmanager323 2 ай бұрын
Under Fergie, we played Giggs in the middle.....We won the league with Ando and Cleverly. We won with the Gibson. United midfield has been bad since we lost Scholes and Keane... The problem is the attack no helping. Rashford should never start a game, Gernacho is good but lightweight....This was obvious as Collier, Gernacho and Mainoo were bullied off the ball. We should have kept Amrabat, Fred and Sabitzer who did all the work. The starting 3 upfront should be Bruno, Diallo, Hjolund. Problem is every team trying to play like Pep teams instead of working hard.
@SteventheThorn
@SteventheThorn 2 ай бұрын
As a Man Utd fan I appreciate Frank pointing out that Liverpool are straight up a better team than Man Utd. Slot has inherited a top 3 PL team, top 10-15 European team probably, and he's doing a great job so far.
@murphymoe9220
@murphymoe9220 2 ай бұрын
100% better in all positions.. Utd. are lost after 11 dry years.. countless managers, spending dosh like rain and seem to be going backwards now. There must be something going on which we don't know about..
@hmmer3471
@hmmer3471 2 ай бұрын
Before this game VVD is old, Nunez can't score utd midfield is better than LFC. Said by utd fans
@murphymoe9220
@murphymoe9220 2 ай бұрын
@@hmmer3471 Never heard or saw this
@dubmcstep2645
@dubmcstep2645 2 ай бұрын
There are not even five teams better than Liverpool in Europe let alone ten or 15
@murphymoe9220
@murphymoe9220 2 ай бұрын
@@dubmcstep2645 He's Mr. Ten Hag please if we're talking about our clown
@CCChing-wl9ir
@CCChing-wl9ir 2 ай бұрын
Winning the midfield battle has always been key to winning a game, especially in big games. In the older days, it's not uncommon for managers to play an extra central midfielder just for that purpose. Today the game has evolved, you don't need an extra midfielder because players in other positions are more rounded to perform that role during different phases of play. But United's tactics seem to challenge that because instead of packing your midfield, we relied on 1 man while the rest push up. That's a bit suicidal isn't it. Now, we don't know if that's ten Hag's instruction or the players lack of tactical intelligence. But it happened too often, 3 times at least, all leading to goals conceded, that this tactic looks intentional on ten Hag's part.
@NautiusMaximus
@NautiusMaximus 2 ай бұрын
Lampard is the best pundit on bbc
@JoeBob79569
@JoeBob79569 2 ай бұрын
ETH has only been at United for 2 seasons, not 3. And he didn't walk into a stable team like Slot did... When ETH arrived it was an absolute mess, Rangnick commented a few months before that the team needed "open heart surgery". But I'd argue the club needed it, not just the team. And this has only just been started over the last few months. The problem is really that the team is inconsistent, not that they are bad. For example United beat Liverpool a few months ago, but then just barely scraped a win against Coventry, but won and drew against City in the last 2 meetings But the could lost 7-0 to City next week if they played them. They need to figure out how to be consistent, and that takes time.
@pnthrillz
@pnthrillz 2 ай бұрын
Ten hag has spent 600 million. He made man-utd ajax. His tactics are shit. After 2 seasons, we dont know what his style his.
@ademoyekehinde505
@ademoyekehinde505 2 ай бұрын
​@@pnthrillzplease shut up
@JoeBob79569
@JoeBob79569 2 ай бұрын
@@pnthrillz To be fair, when was the last time you saw a style from a Man Utd manager? We have been without a proper football structure for years and that will take time with the new directors and staff that just came in. And would you prefer if the club didn't spend money on transfers?
@pnthrillz
@pnthrillz 2 ай бұрын
@@JoeBob79569 To answer your second question- yes i would prefer not to squander 600 million till you get a good structure and a proper manager in-place. Why do you prefer buying a player without a long term strategy? To answer your first question - Mourinho! His tactics were clear. He made average players come in second place! Unfortunately he was NOT backed in the transfer window in the same way.
@JoeBob79569
@JoeBob79569 2 ай бұрын
@@pnthrillz Jose was definitely backed in the transfer windows, with about €400m in 3 years: Pogba, Fred, Lindelof, Matic, Bailly, Zlatan, Sanchez, etc.. But there was no long term strategy there.
@ssnn4889
@ssnn4889 2 ай бұрын
Its 100% on ten hag, he set up the team for his midfield to fail. No matter who coming in even lampard himself.
@Howling-Mad-Murdock
@Howling-Mad-Murdock 2 ай бұрын
Now THAT was proper analysis. Compare and contrast the chimps tea party from Neville and Carra.
@Daniel_Goh
@Daniel_Goh Ай бұрын
United midfield setup can be 1. Diamond shape - Casimero/Ugarte/Mainoo at the base, Bruno/Eriksson at the tip (no 10). Left & right of them to be B2B energetic midfielders. Mount, Collyer can play those roles. 2. Midfield three (no 10) - Casimero,Ugarte, Mainoo, Collyer, Mount at duo anchor, Bruno/Erikssen centre. Will need a centre forward for this
@9753zing
@9753zing 2 ай бұрын
Subscribed for the accurate and balanced content that this whole segment conveyed, but Lampard's last comment took the cake. What a breath of fresh air
@liamclarke5275
@liamclarke5275 2 ай бұрын
Our we seriously saying Man Utds midfield wasn't an issue under Solskjaer? McFred? Or Mourinho with Pogba, Matic or Van Gaal with Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Fellaini. This is a long term problem.
@jasonfrancis698
@jasonfrancis698 2 ай бұрын
Manchester United's Midfield has been S*** ever Since Scholes, Fletcher, Giggs and Park are No Longer Playing. Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Fletcher, Carrick and Park were Manchester United's Best Midfielders In Premier League and Champions League History.
@tc98826
@tc98826 2 ай бұрын
Mctominay was decent for us. Gave his all and good on the ball. Exactly the type of loyal player you want around the squad. Fergie won the league with soldiers like him.
@tc98826
@tc98826 2 ай бұрын
Its interesting i read that Fergie's big recommendation was John Mcginn. Totally a Fergie player
@jasonfrancis698
@jasonfrancis698 Ай бұрын
@tc98826 Yeah McTominay was Underrated. Least He does Give His all and Tries unlike Spoiled Overhyped Brats like Fernandes.
@matthewbrears2129
@matthewbrears2129 Ай бұрын
Utd have been signing big names on massive wages at the end of their careers for years now, and it's soured the dressing room. Too many poor characters in that squad still. Manager has no chance - he can't exactly point fingers even though everyone can see how bad it is top to bottom
@matthewbull6102
@matthewbull6102 2 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis from Frank.
@abcdefg3214
@abcdefg3214 2 ай бұрын
Neville said united have a better midfield than Liverpool.. Wtf
@MrKizzzzyy
@MrKizzzzyy Ай бұрын
He’s a horrible United fan. Just lies about our team when he knows they’re horrible. We used to be the biggest team in England now people look at us and laugh😂
@andriesusanto8684
@andriesusanto8684 Ай бұрын
I just don't get it , with man utd transfers . should have brought gravenberch instead of amrabat last season , also should have brought kudus instead of Antony 😂
@DQ5258
@DQ5258 2 ай бұрын
Get a Keeper who at least can stop the shot
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 2 ай бұрын
They had one and let him go
@ftatekeste134
@ftatekeste134 2 ай бұрын
Frank lampard our legend
@spurushottam7133
@spurushottam7133 2 ай бұрын
Eloquent & Frank Analysis
@Toetothunder
@Toetothunder 2 ай бұрын
I see what you did there
@ahydershoaib107
@ahydershoaib107 2 ай бұрын
Lampard legend
@Karn_1414
@Karn_1414 Ай бұрын
Lampard with one of the most sensible opinions on the internet. No surprise that he’s been a manager and knows the role. Shay just flapping like everyone else on the media.
@erlisqevani
@erlisqevani 2 ай бұрын
I don’t know why they try to make excuses for the bad performances?! We spent and spent for years and always we are in transition!!!
@dtv8122
@dtv8122 2 ай бұрын
It's the players who are aren't showing fighting spirit and mentality
@buzzinalong7163
@buzzinalong7163 Ай бұрын
Big difference is 3 games in and you can see the difference in Liverpool playing Slot Ball vs the way it was under Klopp. Very similar but different. Ten hag 3 yrs in and the squad has no direction or style of play.
@johnangulin8866
@johnangulin8866 Ай бұрын
By the end if the season my optimism could look misplaced. I have heard several pundits say that it coyld have been 4 , 5 , 6 to nil with the chances Liverpool had but the stats like possession, shots on target and Xg just dont reflect this. Liverpool where not playing through united but instead they capitalised on mistakes forced by a great press. The problems are less structural than last season
@michaelprobert6197
@michaelprobert6197 2 ай бұрын
I have to say Frank is a much better pundit now than he was before going into management. Good analysis from him
@johndoherty1336
@johndoherty1336 2 ай бұрын
Fair and balanced and I’m a Man U fan. Liverpool are far ahead of MU and n Klopp left a good squad unlike what was left by all previous Man U managers. However ETH is in his third year and needs t9 show progress in the PL , winn8ng silverware is welcome but it’s the PL matters most
@SJW82
@SJW82 Ай бұрын
I’ve seen all of the highlights and then checked the majority of the game …absolute mind blowing performance from the mighty reds….slot ball is going to take us far. We do need reinforcements in the January window…though we should be okay, and hopefully zero injury’s on the international break 👌🏻🙌🏻🤞🏻 For me ETH is inept as a manager, they now have the players and the money to do well! Maybe these signings should have been done a season ago… though again the board at untied and everyone surrounding have pretty much decimated any the old memory of who United were. To Many players, thinking the world surrounds them…I could literally write a list on that!
@salimrehman2028
@salimrehman2028 2 ай бұрын
The last season issue was that manchester United could not score goals. They need to buy a number 9 forward. Others' issues were not the main concern. Plus, replacing the central half who left at the end of the season. Manchester United if they do not improve up front. Then they have to buy a forward next year.
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 2 ай бұрын
A number 9 was not the problem the problem was the tactics. And that's on the manager. Also favoritism from the manager. Example playing Bruno and Rashford when they were terrible
@vikktourios
@vikktourios 2 ай бұрын
​@@thedreamer3454 well to be honest bruno and rashford have been the previous managers have played them though not performing. I think those 2 players are actually holding us back!
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 Ай бұрын
@@vikktourios this manager has given them new contracts. So we can't blame them. If he didn't want them here they would be gone. So it's on him. He picks them and plays them
@YTA5690
@YTA5690 2 ай бұрын
Casemiro has to retire now, he needs to get on the next flight to Turkey.
@micheldufenberg4745
@micheldufenberg4745 2 ай бұрын
ETH should retire first
@TheOfficialGobbIedyGooker
@TheOfficialGobbIedyGooker 2 ай бұрын
Why, his hair and teeth look fine.
@YTA5690
@YTA5690 2 ай бұрын
@@TheOfficialGobbIedyGooker 😂😂😂😂😂
@Fumblingthroughlifeonline
@Fumblingthroughlifeonline 2 ай бұрын
@@TheOfficialGobbIedyGookerhe can get some new legs
@mohammadsameerkakar3112
@mohammadsameerkakar3112 2 ай бұрын
Lampart plz stick with this job. You are great at it I would listen to you for hours. Great analytics input by you❤❤❤.
@thecannonballkid1312
@thecannonballkid1312 Ай бұрын
Slot has taken over a ready made team of course it looks like Liverpool have the better plan going ahead from a manager point
@ThomasBrown-f3w
@ThomasBrown-f3w 2 ай бұрын
Keeps Casemiro but ETH sells McTominay the man is incompetent 😂
@maedux
@maedux 2 ай бұрын
What a dumb comment. You think hes the one making all these decisions?
@MattMajcan
@MattMajcan Ай бұрын
honestly United's midfield was at its best post-fergie when Van Gaal took over.. as much possession as you could possibly want. they should have stuck to that and just got someone with more attacking intent, instead they went for mourinho..
@sanzy8346
@sanzy8346 2 ай бұрын
They had to wait for the McTomminey deal to be done.
@wobbuffet1730
@wobbuffet1730 Ай бұрын
Mount started out as an 8 dont know why people keep pushing him up front, because he is not that good as a winger.
@gibbos1985
@gibbos1985 Ай бұрын
Mason Mount and Bruno couldn't play in Midfield together, but Ten Hag played them both as strikers against Brighton!!
@Steven-t8h
@Steven-t8h 2 ай бұрын
For me United are still missing a left back a decent left winger and a top striker, Ugarte is the midfielder they have been missing but then you need cover for these positions as well, it is going to take another 2 maybe 3 transfer windows to sort this team out properly, this season was a start but lets not pretend over 10 years of mismanagement was going to be solved in one window, they can still get top 4 if these players stay fit all season but I don't think ETH will get to christmas if they lose 2 more games.
@joe-vl3nd
@joe-vl3nd Ай бұрын
It's not the coaches fault Blame the players on 200,000 pounds a week Who are CRAP👎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@PetterStoners
@PetterStoners Ай бұрын
Well obviously starting Garnacho United had the intention to play him in behind. Which was clearly shown before the first Liverpool goal only for Bruno to be blocked by Anthony Taylor. Which is just pure coincidence and luck for Liverpool. For then Casemiro to actually make such a grave mistake is just completely unheard of. If you look at Liverpool's structure at that moment. If the ball goes over to Rashford or Dalot it's a really good chance for United as Trent had to stick centrally to cover for Konate which was behind Zirkzee at that moment. So for me the whole game came down to individual performances and luck/unluck at crucial moments. What I would've like to see from United in this game was some resilience. When they went 1-0 down they still had chances to come back into the game. Just lacked quality on the ball to create big chances. Rashford had alot of space in behind but the passes were always to poor. Zirkzee treated the ball like a bomb at times. That should change when they are getting more fit and settled.
@Habib-m7y
@Habib-m7y 2 ай бұрын
Where’s jermaine jenas?
@GlazersOut1989
@GlazersOut1989 2 ай бұрын
Shay Given is 100% wrong. The board have been ridiculously proactive with 7 signings made and close to 15-20 of the deadwood sold or loaned out. Rome wasn’t built in a day. In the words of Roy Keane, relax. We’ve got Ugarte now and 35 games left. Let’s see what happens. We couldn’t guarantee Ugarte wouldn’t take us into PSR/FFP disrepute, so we had to sell before we could buy. You would be criticising the board in equal amounts if we’d have fallen foul of ffp regulations 3 years down the line wouldn’t you?
@JonathanBriggs-q4u
@JonathanBriggs-q4u 2 ай бұрын
Good analysis. Falling foul of ffp doesn't seem to be a problem for some however..? At the end of the day the EPL is a honey pot where everyone gets richer. If you break FFP, no one really going to do too much if you are a big club contributing to the overall raising of the commercial revenues. As long as everyone getting richer.
@maedux
@maedux 2 ай бұрын
No he's not wrong. Yes this summer has been much better in terms of transfer execution but they could have done better by bringing in the DM target earlier on in the window. Everyone knew by the end of last season that the midfield was the biggest problem. This was the priority position to fill from day1. This should have been the first signing of the window to give the team a good base to start the season. They essentially gambled on 9 points or more by waiting till the last day. They could have just paid the previosly agreed fee for Amrabat if they knew they were going to wait this long fot the priority target. Ugarte alone isnt enough anyway. Yes, they have to take some blame.
@GlazersOut1989
@GlazersOut1989 Ай бұрын
@@maedux I’d say centre half was priority over midfield given we had 19 different defensive partnerships
@GlazersOut1989
@GlazersOut1989 Ай бұрын
@@JonathanBriggs-q4u thank you sir. Fair point yourself
@maedux
@maedux Ай бұрын
@GlazersOut1989 that was due to injuries. On personnel (aside from replacing Varane), midfield and No. 9 were bigger priorities. Don't even get me started on the number 9 signing they made.
@TalaaboDheer
@TalaaboDheer Ай бұрын
Frank Lampard who won many trophies with Chelsea and was also a manager says: "There is more to the jigsaw than you think, it's more than just Ten hag throwing players on the pitch, everyone has to align." KZbin random fan in his bedroom, probably hasn't had any breakfast and it's 4pm already: "No, the problem is Ten hag."
@addieTy9420
@addieTy9420 2 ай бұрын
there is not mistry... they are still settling
@abyss7049
@abyss7049 2 ай бұрын
Casemiro was shocking I understand the criticsim he is getting and it is fair. However, I don't believe it is all down to his age. He plays in a two man midfield with a 10 in Bruno who spends more time in every other area of the pitch other than in the midfied. He never drops back into a three to help. He presses going the other way and it creates more spaces. People forget that when Casemiro played at Madrid he played in a three man midfield. Modric never played as a ten. They played Casemiro and Kroos as 6's with Casemiro being the destroyer and Kroos the passer, with Modric as the 8 being more creative higher up. Either Bruno needs to play as Modric did as a slightly deeper 8, or he has to drop Casemro and play Ugarte. In my honest opinion I do not believe Ugarte will solve the issues, I think he will be exposed just as Casemiro is. Even Mainoo has to be more disciplined, I see him popping up all over the place too, very talented lad but positional sense isn't great and he is not the most mobile. It is easy to point the finger all at Casemiro and absolve Mainoo of any responsibility (Like a certain Utd fan channel). If Utd decide to keep playing Bruno so high up I would actually play Casemiro with Ugarte, he would have to do less running and wouldn't be exposed as much. Mainoo also needs to be in and out the team. He is too young in my opinion to be expected so much of
@maedux
@maedux 2 ай бұрын
No. Casemiro just doesnt have the legs anymore to be that protective cover in front of defence. He did at Madrid but i guess they saw he was slowing down and were happy to ship him to United. He could be useful still as an 8 though in this stage of his career. But playing him and mainoo together is like playing 2 8's in deep midfield which leaves the team very exposed. Completely agree with playing Ugarte with Case. Case and Mainoo can rotate in that position.
@abyss7049
@abyss7049 2 ай бұрын
@@maedux Yes I agree his legs are not there, but he never was the best mover. He is just exposed in an empty midfield. He is scapegoated. If they played a 3 man midfield instead of two would be no issues. I don't understand why Bruno can't be a bit more disciplined himself
@mattstevenson5849
@mattstevenson5849 2 ай бұрын
Modern football is based around midfield dominance where full backs move up or forwards move back to create overloads. Man United are the only 'top' team who are stripping the midfield and leaving a massive hole between defense and attack. Casemiro is used to playing in a three with Modric and Kroos. No wonder he is struggling trying to protect Macguire, Johnny Evans and the like. Ten Hag is the problem, and Ugarte is set up to fail straight from the off.
@maccybear8093
@maccybear8093 2 ай бұрын
Who has excelled at United, I can't think of one player. It's a disaster club. Manchester United are a serial career killer. United now sign rejects, only. None of the players coming to United are top players, apart from Yoro, who is young and by the time he's 20 he can request to leave for a better club who's fighting in the Champions League.
@jayforeverrollin
@jayforeverrollin 2 ай бұрын
@@mattstevenson5849 💯 Casemiro, Kobbie as well, are being overworked playing as the ONLY MIDFIELD PLAYERS to cover ground defensively, and also feed the ball up front when attacking. Eth is only getting himself sacked, Bruno needs to play as proper midfielder or else we are still gonna get ran through like what happened v Liverpool. If he does this again, we are doomed. And like you said, Ugarte would struggle to do that too. It's unrealistic
@hanadbarkadle7678
@hanadbarkadle7678 2 ай бұрын
David moyes inherited a premie league champion team and also spent ton of money did he do something to improve no. This clearly shows every manager who inherited the better team cannot do the same so that slot is very intelligent manager and he knows what he’s doing
@odworwilliam3631
@odworwilliam3631 2 ай бұрын
Frank Lampard is very much right the team needs to be given time cause the club has been in limbo
@andrewpeers1726
@andrewpeers1726 Ай бұрын
Utd should set up with 1 holding midfielder and have 2 energetic midfielders in front.
@joseph4400
@joseph4400 2 ай бұрын
The inherited a good squad argument is stupid too cos moyes inherited premier league champions but got them to 6th
@benferns6078
@benferns6078 2 ай бұрын
Mino missed the pass as he ran forward later defence failed and blame cas, playing ericksen would have made a difference experience counts
@charlesapana9935
@charlesapana9935 2 ай бұрын
Yeah probably was there for a long time and is still not solved
@timothybaguma6402
@timothybaguma6402 2 ай бұрын
Man utd is very thin in the middle. When the midfield is good it reflects on other departments of the squad.
@tariqbahoussain1442
@tariqbahoussain1442 2 ай бұрын
Never mind midfield even in wingers and up front it’s thin
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 2 ай бұрын
​@@tariqbahoussain1442how is it thin with a 90 mill player on the bench, amad (player of the month) on the bench?
@tariqbahoussain1442
@tariqbahoussain1442 2 ай бұрын
@@thedreamer3454 mate that Amad Diallo just a kid we not including youngsters where r the experience players. Yay we are thin on that infact some thinnest Utd squads I have ever seen.
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 2 ай бұрын
@@tariqbahoussain1442 but all of utd signings are kids lol. So that defeats your point immediately. how can you spend 660 million and have a paper thin squad. It's only that way because the manager has picked horrible signings. Tell me one out of the 20 he has got in that has been amazing .
@jimbo1001-u9q
@jimbo1001-u9q 2 ай бұрын
Its more the glazers...radcliffe and ashworth and co....than Ten Hag.....they were penny pinching.
@tomtalley2192
@tomtalley2192 Ай бұрын
600m spent, and the bench wafer thin? It’s all on Ten Hag. Team is disorganized, have no playing style.
@sicelovilane5391
@sicelovilane5391 2 ай бұрын
Let's see when Ugarte comes in. What will be Ten Hag's excuses
@whoknew2273
@whoknew2273 2 ай бұрын
Casmerio was MOTM lol
@WilterLagan
@WilterLagan 2 ай бұрын
Lampard does know what he talking about..salute
@johnwoolveridge699
@johnwoolveridge699 2 ай бұрын
Lets be honest its been an Issue since the 2009 champions league final.
@ShrinathBalakrishnan-rs2ko
@ShrinathBalakrishnan-rs2ko 2 ай бұрын
Painful to watch game as a Utd fan. After 3-0, I just switched off my TV. But, really good performance by the management IMO. And sticking by ETH for now, is also the better decision. You don't gain anything by short-termism. Even Liverpool under Klopp didn't win jack shit in the first 3 years. And lets all agree Klopp > ETH. I really think Utd are going to aim for top 4 for the next 2 years atleast, which means fans like me will have to go through more pain, but after that, we should see a way better team overall, which doesn't depend on managers to play good and win titles.
@ichipienaefe3950
@ichipienaefe3950 Ай бұрын
Lampard seems to be the best pundit I have listened to
@robertkelem5144
@robertkelem5144 2 ай бұрын
ETH cant even select his best team from the available players and cant make right substitutions. He needs to go back to the basics
@murphymoe9220
@murphymoe9220 2 ай бұрын
Team is not getting the training it needs and it shows even more than last season
@Insightful_project
@Insightful_project 2 ай бұрын
The only reason I'm looking this video it's because of lampard I just want to hear from him before i attacking
@SeamusTivnan4678
@SeamusTivnan4678 2 ай бұрын
Frank is a genius with a proven 180 IQ which makes him smarter than Einstein. Why he is not managing is beyond me.
@RobertBurke-tq9zu
@RobertBurke-tq9zu 2 ай бұрын
​@AndyKennard4678 He doesn't have 180 iq lol, utter nonsense.
@DanceySteveYNWA
@DanceySteveYNWA 2 ай бұрын
​@@SeamusTivnan4678Frank Lampard is not smarter than Einstein, what are you smoking?😂
@deanmckay-rapson5225
@deanmckay-rapson5225 2 ай бұрын
@@SeamusTivnan4678 because he doesn't know how
@jamesbarry9477
@jamesbarry9477 2 ай бұрын
They play a 2 in midfield, Bruno doesn't play in mid so they get overrun
@NuMetalfan1996
@NuMetalfan1996 2 ай бұрын
Lampard on MOTD 2?, he has fallen
@1000dannycawley
@1000dannycawley 2 ай бұрын
I Approved Signing Off Yoro I Pray Has Real Aura When His Back. I Think Signing Off Ten Hags Golden Boy De Ligt Will Be A Flop.
@joegugg4129
@joegugg4129 2 ай бұрын
Poor decision making from Casemiro he should’ve never given the ball away in the first place
@TiagobritoBrito
@TiagobritoBrito 2 ай бұрын
No improvement, since he came it’s his 3rd season same pattern of losing early games again the finger will be on ETH, Crystal Palace retired Hodgson got O.Glasner in and Mateta becomes a folk hero, who knew Nunez, Eze and Olise became almost world class overnight due to good coaching and management.
@gerardcarty9273
@gerardcarty9273 2 ай бұрын
No improvements ? ETH has won 2 trophies in 2 years, unlike Arsenal. It took Klopp years before he won his 1st premiership, Give the man the time. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
@akshat2643
@akshat2643 2 ай бұрын
I thought casimero can play for atleast 45 mins but he cant cope up with the pace anymore, now all teams will target him. He made mistakes but those goals can be saved i mean 2nd and 3rd goal but the goal keeper is a clown.
@MrKizzzzyy
@MrKizzzzyy Ай бұрын
If we was at anfield its 7-0 all over again
@athiambonyabundi
@athiambonyabundi 2 ай бұрын
Slott has inherited a better team 100%
@adamdoeslife
@adamdoeslife 2 ай бұрын
Problem is they gave him power to bring players in and look how dysfunctional the team is with the players he's told the ownership to spend millions on. I doubt Eric will work again its just annoying he'll cause such damage yet still walk away a rich man. Mental!!
@finkomsky
@finkomsky 2 ай бұрын
This is a long term project with Ineos Ashworth was legally allowed work July 1st Berrada and himself had the best window in years even with the circumstances The new signings need time to integrate and we need injuries back We will be fine typical overreaction
@moncherixxx
@moncherixxx 2 ай бұрын
Haaland didn't need much time adapt to the prem!?
@maggshannon6506
@maggshannon6506 2 ай бұрын
I stood beside this manager all the way but ni this manager is not good enough for Man United
@jayforeverrollin
@jayforeverrollin 2 ай бұрын
Nah trust ten hag is a good manager and he'll bring us back (if he realises that his midfield is too exposed)
@JungleUTFR
@JungleUTFR 2 ай бұрын
Media love to talk a bit of United !
@MrFooFighter13
@MrFooFighter13 2 ай бұрын
It's their job 😉
@robertbolsover2397
@robertbolsover2397 2 ай бұрын
I watched the highlights and mu were clueless.
@justmag7305
@justmag7305 2 ай бұрын
I love this analysis. Especially lampards analysis. Ten hag has his fault but anyone with common sense should be interested in the bigger picture. These plastic united fans are exhausting. We have ugarte now, and I am hoping for a backup to him as well
@ansahbudu8274
@ansahbudu8274 2 ай бұрын
Lampard is very level-headed and maybe perhaps because he's been a manager before. Given talking from the usual lazy, armchair approach.
@marvinezekiel8825
@marvinezekiel8825 2 ай бұрын
I'm an arsenal fan but let's not forget..the player ten hag always wanted from the go was de jong of Barcelona..that means he has a certain way he wanted to play his midfield system
@lasterstoneyogola
@lasterstoneyogola 2 ай бұрын
Like what the hell? Why would someone think only one player in the entire planet can solve all their coaching problems
@marvinezekiel8825
@marvinezekiel8825 2 ай бұрын
@@lasterstoneyogola i know it sounds bizarre but he wants a ball holding midfielder who can dictate the pace from deep..the issue is, those kind of midfielders are very scarce like tony kroos..casemero and Kobe can thrive with that kind of midfielder..well I don't know much about this ugarte but maybe that is what he is still in search of..a certain kind of midfielder with that special ability.maybe that is when his 4-2-4 system might work against the high pressing opposition teams..but I understand ur point as well
@lasterstoneyogola
@lasterstoneyogola 2 ай бұрын
@@marvinezekiel8825 I think United have tried to have such players but things have failed. Pogba, Mainoo, Shwensteigger, Carrick, Van De Beek, Fred, Bruno, Mata etc. only that people keep forgetting that United has been buying such players. The problem is simply the coach.
@cipiatone
@cipiatone Ай бұрын
Ugarte hasn't played in months. Transfers take time, FFP restricted who united could bring in before they sold players.
@fugaziishime
@fugaziishime 2 ай бұрын
They should sack ten hagg and hire Lampard.
@MuhammadMuhammad-gr2qv
@MuhammadMuhammad-gr2qv 2 ай бұрын
FERNANDEZ WAS JUS ADDING THE NUMBER NOT ONLY CASAMIRO WE NEED SOMEONE TO REPLACE FERNANDEZ AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
@rikki6
@rikki6 24 күн бұрын
Casemiro might make a better CB in his advanced age. He hasnt got legs.
@micah.101
@micah.101 2 ай бұрын
As if Ugarte would've helped in anyway shape or form
@delanoblanco2248
@delanoblanco2248 2 ай бұрын
How a cdm is going to do the job of a 8?
@mattrose6340
@mattrose6340 Ай бұрын
Letting McTominey go was such a poor decision
@stephanevu-hoang1014
@stephanevu-hoang1014 2 ай бұрын
Lampard is a brilliant pundit. I hope he stays there and doesn't get the England job!
@Iceman8888-l9v
@Iceman8888-l9v 2 ай бұрын
Realistically… Like most players, they need 1 season to adapt to epl. He won’t be any saviour this season! He would have been slaughtered on the pitch against Liverpool anyway. Casemiro was awful, Mainoo can’t defend losing ball for 1 goal and Graven breezed past him for Trent non goal. Bruno do not defend.
@Jay-qj2et
@Jay-qj2et 2 ай бұрын
Slot Jason inherited the better team....
@kaysheye7784
@kaysheye7784 Ай бұрын
Jason?
@davepeterclough1669
@davepeterclough1669 2 ай бұрын
Its all changed top to bottom, pls utd fans dont listen to stupid media, itll take atleast 2 more windows to sort this squad totally
@ulfanfinneriksen4643
@ulfanfinneriksen4643 Ай бұрын
Ten hag got 10 more games max to prove his worth is my guess.
@frankedward4556
@frankedward4556 2 ай бұрын
Ten has no plans and has spent 600 million Todate
@deanmckay-rapson5225
@deanmckay-rapson5225 2 ай бұрын
Fancy that frank lampard analysing we a team has lost 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@momanyivincent3039
@momanyivincent3039 Ай бұрын
slot doesnt have to change a thing
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