Manaforged Arrows Build Progression 3.24

[@ВладимирМихин-н7л]

How i identify Conner's video without reading the title: there is a loading screen on the preview

[@Intestine_Ballin-ism]

It's just the default randomly chosen thumbnail I think. Insert joke here about PoE load times

[@kliersheed]

im really apreciating the in-between updates. for "casuals" like us, trying to replicate your build, its very important to have some states inbetween in case all our currency is 70 div or 200 div in this entire league and maybe we dont know how to work things out without mageblood or when transitioning with the tree etc. keep up the good work, im gonna get mjolnir to a decent point first, then probably end up with this "non-mageblood; non-crit" version of mana forged arrows because i will run out of currency to do more :D

[@RPRavva]

hello this is onemanaleft

[@bisha9347]

Onemanaleft

[@Intestine_Ballin-ism]

for every WHYYYYY helloandwelcumevrybody there's an equal hello this is onemanaleft

[@LeiteIcaro]

@@Intestine_Ballin-ism i followed both builds this league, lol

[@LucariosAxe]

​@@LeiteIcaroha, same

[@gobikokuo9364]

yo Conner if you die and are trying to turn on your auras you can now just open up the select skill menu on the bar and ctrl + right click them on. so you dont have to swap skills over and over again if you dont have the buttons available

[@cwjalexx]

Sweet didn’t know that

[@pbc1337]

insert "calculating meme" here. On a serious note this is exactly what we needed to truly invest ourselves in the MFA build. Thank you so much for you time and knowledge sharing !

[@NihilisticGoliath]

I understand the build and ramp as you explained it, but I will never be able to afford the items :') Living vicariously through videos

[@Metallian2112]

Man it's incredible to see what experienced players can do! I've just hit 3.5mil dmg 100k ehp (10k es) with lightning conduit and am kinda stuck with how to scale further

[@BooMe]

I feel the same, but you notice the upgrades more as they scale. You're gonna reach some breakpoints that will drastically increase everything. For example, I upgraded my boots yesterday to gain 30 int ( previously was 25, now 55 )+ 57 str. Went from 11.5k to 13.5k es and like 200-300 more mana . When I first started, I needed bigger upgrades to notice a difference. Now it's just small stuff to min/max, and I notice the difference still.

[@Arthrexx]

That's actually pretty low for Mjölner. You can scale it higher with an adorned, for example

[@bisha9347]

@@Arthrexx each adorned jewel increases damage and energy shield by quite a significant margin

[@Arthrexx]

@@bisha9347 Adorned themselves are unique, aren't they? Just checked and they are limited to 1. I am quite aware that more magic jewels increase the damage by a large margin, but what I suggest the other guy is to use The Adorned to further improve the damage as the current one, to me, suggests they aren't using one currently.

[@crazycdn8327]

@@Arthrexxhe meant the corrupted magic jewels affected by the adorned jewel. You can only have one adorned as you said.

[@peterpan-lh7el]

A note for all MFA noobs like me - battlemage's cry adds the indigon buff to your spender, making it hit like a hammer and leech ALOT, helps if you have problems with mana/ES leech as I had. p.s. Do level to 100 as CWC/Mjolner before you switch, get some currency too, because an early switch to MFA will leave you crippled.

[@foryubiwa]

I was on the brink of quitting league after swapping because everything was so overwhelming. But thanks to your stream and discord members I powered through, and now the build is finally ramping. Thank you for the best build I've played

[@AGVenge]

Is it tough to get going?

[@PoisonTurtle]

conner have a discord sv?

[@foryubiwa]

@@AGVenge compared to his mjolnir, yes

[@foryubiwa]

@@PoisonTurtle go on his twitch !discord

[@izmayaya7693]

Currently playing frostbolt ice nova and farming to swap to mjolner setup ;) gonna be fun! I love how your view on things. The math stuff is great.

[@austinyun]

I don't think there's a reason to swap to Mjolner. Just wait for mfa

[@1overload1]

@@austinyun budget wise i'd guess mjolner is much cheaper than mfa?

[@voxii_13]

@@1overload1 yes, but there's no reason to do a sideways swap in power.

[@DerAlexD]

thanks alot for the Calc explanation im running with mageblood and had a 1:7.090909 so 1:8 ratio now i know why it felt misserable

[@Deagin]

Thought i was ready for MFA, my pob dps/ehp were close to yours but not as good. Pretty much bricked my character and had to liquidate a lot of stuff to get back to ball lighting. Learned a lot about this build through the process and i'll swap when i have better stuff.

[@charlespanache7047]

Similar situation here, I was using Mjolnir and swapping just felt horrible. Ended up switching to Fb+ice nova (trans gem) w/ a HH and I've never felt stronger. Also the streamer effect of sky rocketing certain items for builds make the budget laughable imo. He's on 200+div where-as im slapping t17 on a 45div budget using a HH. With WAYYY less effort in to my build. No BS squeezing every single passive I can with Meta jewels etc.

[@brenoregebebertalia6929]

@@charlespanache7047 same thing happened to me except i didnt roll back to mjolner or fb ice nova lol. Whats ur current POB for that? I havent slapped t17s all league..

[@happzy]

would you post a pob for MB version?

[@nextgen3ric]

... that explains why I absolutely, positively, NEEDED the unnatural instinct to grab the AS. It wasn't my AS that was the problem, it was my shot ratio at 8. Brute forced my way to almost 4 aps, which made my ramp feel reasonably good. THANK YOU for going over it in this detail, I completely missed that in previous videos and was always wondering why exactly your ramp so obviously took less time and seemed less spiky. Going to be putting the widowhail corruption on the top of my upgrade priority list then.

[@brenoregebebertalia6929]

Where did you put the unnatural? Having a hard time squeezing some AS somewhere

[@nextgen3ric]

@@brenoregebebertalia6929 right side of Scion wheel, patching through harrier and through the spell damage passives to grab the socket.

[@ImmortalWolf526]

I wish I had friends to help me with making builds or just friends that dont abandon me after getting me into the game to then leave and not help me out with making the right choices

[@xTobsecretx]

Hello one mana left, you can now activate your auras from the menu when you’re assigning a skill key bind. I think it’s ctr click?

[@Almog92]

Hello wanted to ask if it would be easier to start as mjiolner /squire(ur build) or just go mana forge??? I got like 75 div to start with, ty.

[@gehirndoper]

How much damage do you get from Mirage Archer? Do its arrows get the dmg bonus from manaforged arrows? Its 60% less attack speed compared to a 1:5 ratio should mean you get something like 2 mirage archer storm rains per triggered storm rain, which sounds like it would do more than half of the total damage.

[@burntorangeandblue]

Tree siddy squad

[@gabigabitzu7089]

will you still use adorned after swapping to crit jewels?

[@ConnerConverse]

Yes

[@xNiepek]

Amazing video with so much information I needed, ty!

[@travisrichards1]

Not doing that but very informative on how this works.

[@odesilemoreira1298]

Hi conner, i need some help, how i know the quantity of mana that i spend? and how much seconds is considered recently?

[@MisterxDot]

Hey Connor, zero idea if you respond to these or if i should jump into stream. I have been playing the Mjolner build in a Bro SSF, I was wondering what the requirements are for swapping to this? I have 1.1k int, looking to get more still, have a 133 adorned as well. Was wondering if its just better overall to swap to this?

[@danbosveld8028]

Do you have a ultimate end game mb pob by chance?

[@Pharmacopium]

For indigon critical mass we need to spend 16k mana every 4 seconds right? Are there any mana pool or attack speed goals to make that attainable with realistic uptime during combat?

[@ConnerConverse]

You'd need to spend more than 4k/sec with 4k spent recently but in reality it's a bit more than that

[@mrwhite6340]

I have recently transited to MFA from mjnolir. I was wondering what is the ideal curse corrupt on the shaper? Would feeble be good for survivability or elemental weakness for more dps ( Im aware MFA deals insane DPS but my I think i am not ramping hard enough yet , 15+k es/ 13k mana ATM ) I also doubt ill be able to afford FF jewels this league, so I was wondering if I can forgo crit multipler on quiver and go for another useful stats

[@또또빠야]

hello. I'm impressed with your build, and I'm currently playing with a build that's almost identical to yours. However, while enjoying the game, a few questions arose. In order to maximize the damage of the "Mana Forging skill", you must consume a certain amount of mana, and to do this, cast "Arcane Cloak" and build up a steady stack of mana consumption. However, since I cannot consume mana during the waiting period after casting the Arcane Cloak(about 4 sec), the damage loss is severe. Is there a solution to this problem?

[@Tom_Rose]

Can you please explain how scaling your int scales your damage so heavily? (Hope I didn't miss it in the vid)

[@ConnerConverse]

Mana scaling mainly

[@donbui1315]

Love the build! What's the ideal skill for flesh flame?

[@coollegolas]

Righteous Providence jewels give us crit and swap us to insanity levels of damage from crazy.

[@insomniac21976]

So I got lucky and have a MB but don't really have much else for a budget. Should I use the MB to farm up enough currency to transition to manaforged arrows or sell the mageblood to buy enough gear to get the build going and farm from there?

[@v0dker]

thanks for the build!! how do you keep 4 auras up so far i can keep like 3 auras up and not dread banner....im doing something wrong for sure

[@matthewroberts4380]

Check the POB he linked in the description. DB + Discipline + Clarity are linked to Arrogance. Make sure your clarity is at the appropriate level for how much life you have left to reserve: his is level 9. Grace is linked to eternal blessing for the 4th aura.

[@flobb]

Nice video, once again. Maybe a silly question, but is there a place where I can ask fellow mjolner players to have a look at my build to see what I should priotise in improving my damage? I've been delving to 325 so far and it's been going great, but I when I check my pob with your earlier Mjolner pobs, you have like triple my damage at that point. Would be nice to have fellow, experienced players to have a look and help out.

[@Arthrexx]

Post your PoB. I will have a look

[@flobb]

@@Arthrexx I posted it, but it seems that it got deleted. I assume links are not allowed or Connor doesn't want this, no idea.

[@crazycdn8327]

@@flobblikely KZbin if you posted here.

[@flobb]

@@crazycdn8327 Ye that makes sence, thanks. I found him through the TFT discord so I managed to link it on discord.

[@felixryker5056]

Does it feel bad playing a build worth a morbillions mirrors and still needing a few seconds on every target? Like I've already got a hundred divs into my mjolnir dude but I'm wondering if manaforged is actually worth working towards.

[@ConnerConverse]

The thing is it takes a couple seconds for every target no matter their HP, so for deep delve and ubers this is nice. Once you get full gear with mageblood (far from a mirror) then your ramp can accelerate much faster. In tota I was killing ubers in 0.4s

[@felixryker5056]

@@ConnerConverse so MB is mostly for the attack speed right?

[@felixryker5056]

Checked a few MB pobs and they all have silver flask and an attack speed suffix so I guess that answers it. Alright I'll try switching after I get mb

[@pozytywniezakrecony151]

I am missing clear a bit on my crap gear one other than that its cool. Was thinking to turn it to elementalist and burning arrow spreading love but then it would be worse off for too DPS and much less mana obviously.

[@pozytywniezakrecony151]

Also the more I think about what you do I have an impression if we could change the bow what if we say had 8 link then and much more spend and you would actually shoot 2-3 times instead of 5 before manafore activates hmm.

[@bloodnw]

Im new to the build but why dont just drop +2 arrow and use Frenzy on crit? then u dont have to do that clonky swap to get frenzy cause u get like 15% on crit to frenzy

[@Everybodydancenowuhu]

Hey whats up =) I spent the last few days gathering corpses for the quiver craft of this build, and from 3 quivers i only managed to get cri multi fractured in one, but through unfathomably bad luck i also got fracture added fire damage to attacks instead of lightning. After essence crafting, is the quiver still salvageable or am i better off selling it and trying again in the near future?

[@dmitriykozello718]

Yo, I got cold damage. Similar situation..so what you did end up doing?) because craft without lighting is hella risky

[@Everybodydancenowuhu]

@@dmitriykozello718 i ended up re doing the craft and got a lightning one on my 2nd attempt :)

[@Everybodydancenowuhu]

Oh and on this second attempt I used a few more “life scarcer/fire scarcer/cold scarcer” to help the odds whereas before I had a few open graves

[@dmitriykozello718]

I probably just buy a base, because fuck necropolis crafting.. so much time and nerves go into it)

[@MNtoCali]

Hi could You add in description of this vid or your jewel of the jewel to make when switching to crt? Is it just global crt with mana int/str?

[@ConnerConverse]

No its flesh/flame for free 100% crit. You never actually use crit chance the stat it's terrible

[@MNtoCali]

@@ConnerConverse makes sense you even mentioned that in vid lol. For the adourned you have a 130 something is that the minimum breakpoint you would recommend? Working on that now and more budget. Debating whether to go mageblood or a better adourned to start.

[@azkv_]

can this build work with juggernaut? i really dont want to level again :D i have a comfy boneshatter jugg for farming and would love to transition him into this and i think you mentioned jugg can go manaforged too? if so, is there a guide or a pob somewhere? thanks!

[@voxii_13]

the whole point is mana stacking. Hierophant is the only ascendancy that deals with mana stacking.

[@majmunbezgaca5220]

does anybody know how does widowhail rolls work? are they the same as adorned? with specific breakpoints, if so i cant find widowhail breakpoint chart... + whats the minimum roll to get +3 arrows?

[@sleeevin]

What’s the best way to level this character? Just straight to manaforged? Or is it better to use other skills. I have the currency to be able to buy the items I need to make it work.

[@mantas3094]

you cant level with this at all imo

[@tksxdd]

Can this setup be able to switch to magebloof without needing to switch any other piece of gear ?

[@NC9841]

Yo, you can right click your auras to turn them on from the assign button menu! I learned this and it changed my life.

[@mantas3094]

i appreciate your intro instead of the stupid WWWWWWWWWWHATS UP GUYS! THIS IS EPICGGG GAMING COMING AT YOU LIVE WITH A NEW VIDEO.

[@CKrux]

What if I'm exactly 5.0? or 4.0?

[@Bjoerksen]

What currency strategy is best for mjolner archmage?

[@jargongaming5891]

Quick question, how do you swap weapon so fast?

[@Wacck]

There's a hotkey for it, check your settings. Scales with attack speed

[@nela8872]

Still hoping to get that mjölner uber min max pob & manaforged same

[@crazycdn8327]

Didn’t he release it two videos ago? Had both pobs in the description. Might be 3 videos ago.

[@nela8872]

​@@crazycdn8327 nah those were the "damn mad" pobs. What im (and many others) after is multimirror gazillion dps uber tank gigabuild :P EDIT: and those 50k es + 30k mana pools etc

[@saitamaxc1084]

Are you still going to make the giga squire mljoner POB for those who don't want the clunkiness of this build?

[@ConnerConverse]

Yes I've just stalled it while getting other stuff sorted out

[@saitamaxc1084]

@@ConnerConverse no problem, thank you

[@Arthrexx]

@@ConnerConverse Appreciate the effort!

[@alvo621]

Last league I played manaforged arrows. Concerning battlemage's cry, i used a macro on my logictech mouse to input a swap--warcry--cloak--swap. If one were to do this you would need to give ample time for the keystrokes to be registered before releasing otherwise you might just swap--cloak--swap. Doing it this way you'd just be pressing one button again like if you were only hitting cloak with Mjolner.

[@MrMorph17]

How do you cast Blood rage after the first time? Coruscating elixir sets your life to 1 and you don't have the life anymore

[@ConnerConverse]

You refresh it by killing stuff

[@MrMorph17]

@@ConnerConverse yeah ok but if it expires for any reason you don't havea way to regen/replenish life, right?

[@LTTrikampis]

360p squad

[@rk-li9ks]

yep

[@poke.]

Can you do the Mjolner build with a HH?

[@ConnerConverse]

Wouldn't work great. You don't exactly gain any speed and you lose damage, on top of already losing a belt slot

[@SpiritMEOW]

Volatile cores are also rough

[@AeRoSiKTh]

I just switched to this from my 60m DPS ball lightning and I hate it :( I have a 5-1 shot ratio and i just feel like i'm doing absolutely no damage at all. I just insta die at like 300 depth, whereas I was blasting 650 before. I also don't have an unset ring so I have to choose between blood rage and frostblink.

[@ConnerConverse]

Nothing should be able to kill you at 300 depth, or 650 depth or you're doing something pretty wrong. This will feel better than ball lightning on harder content but 300 depth isn't really harder content You always have to choose forstblink

[@AeRoSiKTh]

@@ConnerConverse Probably dying because I had no frostblink, switched it out and I can survive, but i'm still doing so little damage outside of Arcane Cloak. Just tested a lich at 400 with it, I can notice the damage spike when AC is up, but outside of that it's garbage - overall kill speed is slower than Ball Lightning build. I'm pretty new to the game so it's quite likely i've got something wrong in my setup somewhere. I know for sure i'm not making use of Trinity because I have the T1 chaos damage x to y roll, not the fire damage roll you got.

[@Arthrexx]

@@AeRoSiKTh Your lack of damage suggests that your trigger rate is off. He explained the math in the video and I suggest following it by doing your own calculations. Of course choosing the hardest build in the game as a new player is another can of worms as it requires some knowledge.

[@AeRoSiKTh]

@@Arthrexx By trigger rate do you mean the 4/5/6 - 1 thing? As in I fire 5 Rain of Arrows of Saturation and it triggers 1 Storm Rain? If so then I do have 5-1 as I can count it in game

[@bisha9347]

@@AeRoSiKTh make sure battle mage cry is active, I would use weapon swap because you need power in order for it to give you proper damage

[@minibleau]

Psa you can ctrl right click auras to activate them without having to equip each one

[@Wormweed]

Good build, not so good inventory management, lmao. I will be trying your mjolner setup, since i miss playing cyclone.

[@charlespanache7047]

Mjolnir was really fun. The MS combined w/ LCotHeavens was some of the most fun mapping i've ever had. I just wish it didnt require 300++ divs just to fight uber anything. The build itself is amazing until you hit t17. Anything under t17 and it's one of the best builds i've played.

[@Wormweed]

@@charlespanache7047 i already have a mageblood and 150 div, before selling off my old characters stuff, so i think it should be fine. I need to check the adorned breakpoints later, think 144% or so should be enough, i can't afford 150%.

[@Wormweed]

​@@charlespanache7047 Did you try using perandus pact with unnatural instinct? it gives +145 mana, but im not sure if it's better than 2 magic jewels in those 2 sockets for adorned.

[@theisjrgensen5688]

just swapped to arrow build, my whole char just broke pretty much.. kinda unplayable. cant do same content as before the swap. GG.

[@inexistent3rdchimera673]

yeah same. I reached depth 300 with mjolner, now i cant even survive in depth 70.

[@inexistent3rdchimera673]

nvm fixed the issue by adding some strength and int

[@theisjrgensen5688]

@@inexistent3rdchimera673 got to 640 without problem with mjolner could kill bosses aswell. My character does good damage with the bow 14k energy shield and 17k mana res is capped and 48% chaos res. I just flop over hahaha. Gave up :P

[@JulianNeilRepublik]

I mean my hexblast is 1.5b Uber dmg... but squishy but not budget (3 mirrors minimum)😊

[@srimob]

I'm doing 1.4b uber damage with my hexblast (budget about 15 div)

[@ramschasar7654]

Im playing ruthless right now and think its the superior gamemode. Wanted to do manastacking hiero but some ascendencies are more interesting like inquisitors instruments of zeal or assassins toxic delivery but hiero is just a nerfed version :/ Is this mana stacking still viable with all the ruthless nerfs?

[@drhaaxxx]

Dooood, clean that inventory, at least for the video :))))

[@LeiteIcaro]

How do we know when to respect to it?

[@ConnerConverse]

If you already have a functioning mjolner build and want to keep mapping then you stay there or switch post mageblood for the speed to get fixed. If you wanna deep delve asap you can go manaforged earlier, maybe a bit earlier than I have the swap here

[@LeiteIcaro]

@@ConnerConverse Yes, i do have a functioning mjolner build, but lack a mageblood. I think i'll wait a little bit longer. A have another question if you could help me: how do you sustain your ES without insta leech? I was dieing a lot before i decided to get that mastery, and now i wish i had those extra points

[@DerAlexD]

funny how he has more ES than mana and i am currently sitting on 18.5k ES and 22.5k Mana ^^

[@ConnerConverse]

Journey of the mind will do that

[@robertzimmermann2427]

where to get the cold dmg from to procc trinity?

[@ConnerConverse]

Nowhere, quiver has fire

[@robertzimmermann2427]

@@ConnerConverse but there r all three trinity resonants in your showcase video, so u got to be doing cold damage to procc it

[@jacobvorreiter8040]

​@@robertzimmermann2427A common mistake made about Trinity, you only need to be doing 2 damage types as trinity grants resonance of the damage types NOT dealt. So lightning damage gives cold and fire resonance, fire damage gives cold and lightning resonance

[@bored_uber_boss]

360p gang again

[@uppermost865]

I don't get none of this man. Can you make a detailed video on how to set up a manaforged arrows build?

[@Mike-zn8ri]

I am waiting for your next video on this and transition to mageblood, sorry but so far it's very very confusing. You have 1 PoB in your complete non--mageblood video, but you playing with totally different one instead and in last streams you redid it also. It's very hard to follow "the build" that is not even the build, because it keeps changing every N days drastically.

[@Diablus4]

Oh yeah weapon swap cool

[@longhuy1492]

transition to MFA and rogue fuck me up easier

[@Deadrazor21]

Expansive af, is the mjolner indignon still working? Is there any current pob/guide for it?

[@xyzqsrbo]

look at the last video on the channel

[@ConnerConverse]

Do you think they just patched mjolner to not work any more 2 weeks into the league?

[@SGIMartin]

@@ConnerConverse well, usually not - but this league lol

[@ArchDevilCro1337]

20k ES and You die so easly, that is shame

[@TheSacredMaster]

Man has never deep delved before. XD

[@surgeeffekt]

first

[@tlucnlf]

first?

[@bigben01985]

No, I'm first