The Epic Finale - The Teal Mask (Part 7)

[@dameion_dakoda]

I do think the reason Ogrepon seems attracted to the player is because the player reminds them of their old friend. A person who traveled from afar off land.

[@JonaSam178]

No

[@omegafinisher845]

@@JonaSam178Uh… yes? The last thing that gives Ogerpon strength is memories of “a partner from long, long ago.” Can that be anything other than the man it traveled with? And considering it came after memories of your adventures with it, the MC clearly reminds Ogerpon of her old friend

[@JonaSam178]

@@omegafinisher845 oh, ok. Thank you for explaining that to me

[@gonzaloegonzalez8106]

Kieran slowly becoming possessive over Ogerpon seems like a Evil Team Leader origin story. That kid was scary

[@Cigmacica]

Imagine he teams up with Ghetsis in the next DLC

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

​@@CigmacicaWhy would he team up with Ghetsis?

[@morningstarnc3264]

@@addison_v_ertisement1678 Blueberry Academy Is in the unova region, and so is ghetsis

[@nexo42069]

​@@addison_v_ertisement1678blueberry Academy is in unova

[@bobcipher]

@@addison_v_ertisement1678 Because Blueberry Academy is in Unova

[@SpiderRiderKya]

I love that everyone looks at Ogerpon and goes 'yeah, Friendball for you'

[@curiouscreator8806]

And then there's me, who used a master ball because it was a legendary and it felt fitting. Even I don't know why, even though I literally just explained why.

[@patchestheverdegato]

Me who used a premier ball...

[@11epicnoob]

I used a love ball cuz loved how adorable Ogerpon is

[@gemmaksinclair]

If not for Friend Ball, why friend shaped?

[@RetroFanatic-Trapster2]

I used a Luxury Ball myself.

[@Blueboysback]

I think Kieran’s emotion and the fact he was holding the teal mask is why the loyal three came back to life

[@goldbergvids]

I think it was because he punched the shrine too hard and it made them stir lol

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

If that were the case, it would have been explained. The mask controls plants. None of them are plants, so it can't have revived them.

[@sarafehr7030]

I think its bc the crystalls ur characte4 was holding when u were c.ose to the shrine bc it said that sometimes you could talk to the ded bc of the crystals

[@ColtonPlaze]

your correct

[@annahomberger6006]

Probably yeah, but I also think that the force from him punching the shrine was also one of the reasons.

[@shimmyking4]

Between Arvin and Kieran Gamefreak seems to have developed a thing for putting characters through the emotional wringer and I'm both excited and terrified about it going forward

[@nickmosey1549]

That telegram is FAKE

[@flynnhunter416]

​@@nickmosey1549aye, I've been going through the comments and reporting all the comments from that channel I can find

[@sabrinnur3499]

Lillie and Gladion would like to say hi about that (the SM version at least)

[@WhisperNuggetz]

Why did we meet Carmine, Kieran, and their grandparents? Where are their parents? The real story made it seem like as descendants of the mask maker that we would get a lot of info about their family and its past and a potential connection to the Tera shards that either the mask maker or the stranger from another land brought with them. There has to be some connection to Heath there other than Briar.

[@devynyeske3612]

​@WhisperNuggetz they will be in the next DLC, too, I think. Seeing as their arcs feel so unrefined, we may get more info and Area Zero stuff with them. And Briar is too sketchy to leave her as is.

[@patrickobrien958]

I just love how kieran started out as a timid boy and we drove him into insanity

[@Lrn-u8z]

So true

[@idk_ensneno_hgf]

@@Lrn-u8z so true

[@_Scizor.-]

@@idk_ensneno_hgfso true

[@SurvivalTheKiya]

​@@_Scizor.-so true

[@MimikyuFan89]

Actually, it was something else. I dunno if it's gonna get a gender, but it'll probably be male.

[@EvenirX]

I think we have launched Kieran into the trajectory of his villain arc

[@bradyzx77]

Champion of blue a

[@Waashoe]

Good he needs to be humbled

[@BrianStorm742]

Well, yeah, but then afterwards he'll turn good again because this is Pokémon.

[@chriskagamine358]

@@Waashoe HOW!? from his perspective: (Autistic coded) shy boy lives in a village with an ogre. He gains a hyperfixation on that ogre due to relating in shyness and visits it every night. His grandfather constantly gaslights him into believing he is in the wrong. Anytime he brings up knowledge about his hyperfixation his sister screams at and threatens to hit him, while making him feel like an idiot for believing the loyal 3 aren't the good guys, while constantly belittling him while he tries to stand up for himself. Then his sister finds out HE WAS RIGHT, and rather than apologizing for mistreating him, acts offended for Ogerpon and acts as if she's ogerpon's star ally, as if she wasn't talking shit about him 5 seconds earlier. A random tourist comes into town, says they'll be Kieran's friend, constantly let's his sister bully him, and joins her in ditching him and lying to him. He finally meets the creature that he's been the only one defending and visiting for years, just for Ogerpon to want to go with a tourist with Main Character Syndrome. Kieran's story does not make sense with him all of a sudden being a bad guy (and implying his ableist bully is the good guy). If he is the bully, I'm actually rooting for him to win. This DLC actually physically hurts, and I've lost some trust in game freak if being a lonely autistic child makes you a villain, and being a tried and true bully to your autistic brother makes you a good guy

[@matthewrowlett1564]

Heh... I saw the "epic hair slickback" moment coming... so in the Indigo disc, Kieran will have a different, probably better, hairstyle... the Cliché badguy look... but how will he effect the story, and what exactly will the relationship be between these two and the OTHER NPC trainers in the Upcoming Part two? So... Kieran is becoming a Slickedback Haired, Victory obsessed trainer with the goal of beating the player? FINALLY, a Traditional Rival Character! Not like that Combat Junkie, Nemona... none of that "Friendly Competition" garbage, but an actual Antagonist...

[@DayxDreamy]

The end of the battle at 08:40 where the dipplins fight against each other made me think back during the festival. Kieran buys two candy apples from a stall, one for himself and one for the main character. This somehow made the battle feel even more bittersweet from Kierans side. From friends to rivals. 🤧

[@13CrystalHeart]

Looking forward to Kieran trying to kill us in the Indigo Disk storyline 😂 Also, right before the battle, if you look close at him, you can see his pupils shrink. It's so creepy.

[@killercat241]

Also the glow in his eyes is gone

[@Spiked-Spartan0719]

Thats what they've been doing the whole time

[@raptorskilltor4554]

I saw him creepily smile in his final battle

[@ScreamingBulbasaur]

He probably will try to😂😂

[@jeffersonguillory6683]

Kieran: jeffey (my name in Pokémon violet) i will defeat you this time Me: who beat him every time with my level 100 team of Kyogre, Origin form palkia, crowned zamazenta, crowned zacian, and shadow rider calyrex. (And I’m sheild has 30+ legendarys in the box): sure buddy what ever help you go to sleep at night

[@maggie_knolastname]

*sees the ending and Kieran’s descent into madness with the creepy smile* …I don’t feel safe

[@Cabeza.47]

Stupid telegram scammers

[@jaz3766]

I understood that reference

[@Cabeza.47]

Hey the telegram comment is gone, now i miss him :(

[@ItsQuaxly]

It’s what keeps me up at night 😳

[@Luring_Leon]

Kieran is the type of kid to say: “you’ve been good to me, don’t come to school tomorrow”

[@mikelisavinacco2163]

Bro I got fezandipti 1st try lol

[@damn2981]

​@@mikelisavinacco2163 what did that have to do with anything 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@Meowscarada71]

"hey" "what?" "You're nice and have Ogerpon. Don't come to school tommorow." "Wha- oh god oh no.... Please don't..." "I'M DOING IT, MAIN CHARACTER!"

[@Luring_Leon]

@@mikelisavinacco2163 so?

[@morewi]

All the kids with the kicked up Orgepons

[@Razi-e]

The pain and frustration you feel while yelling “STAY IN THE BALL” at the screen is something all Pokemon fans universally know!

[@lioneljones3140]

Mikey: are there any ghost steel types in the game 🤔 Gholdengo: Am I a joke to you?!?! 😭

[@sheridanwolf]

I thought he meant in Kitakami.

[@rohitpai1086]

Yess and he used it for a raid this series too

[@DinoRaptor88]

Poor gholdengo

[@idk_ensneno_hgf]

aeigaslash too

[@curiouscreator8806]

@@idk_ensneno_hgf Aegislash isn't in Pokémon Scarlet or Pokémon Violet, nor is it in The Hidden Treasures of Area Zero (Part 1: The Teal Mask). Would like to see it make a return in Part 2, I would like to have my Honedge from X (who I named Zacian, because I started it a little while after Pokémon Sword and Pokémon Shield were released (early January 2021)) in Violet. (Not gonna be able to transfer her over, however -- I'd rather find a wild one to recreate her there. That is, if they do add Aegislash & the rest of its evolution line in the Indigo Disc.

[@Azure70]

On the Pokemon subreddit, the user SobaSamurai made this very detail post about Keiran and Carmine (Imagine not everyone here go there and KZbin doesn’t allow links) I want to repeat again. All credits to SobaSamurai | Carmine | Carmine leads off with a Mightyena, a Dark-type Pokemon, which are usually associated with unsavory characters and seems like a perfect fit for Carmine's acerbic first impression. However, interestingly enough, Mightyena's dex entries state that it will listen to a superior trainer, similar to how during our first meeting, we prove ourselves to Carmine by showing our battling skills. It's also a Pokemon known for its teamwork, something that Carmine seems to at least care for, given she's the one who comes up with the idea of creating a team to defeat the Lousy Three. And as a pack creature, Mightyena would naturally take care of their own and be very territorial, similar to how Carmine is very protective of Kieran but also hates the idea of outsiders intruding upon Kitakami and being disrespectful. Her next pokemon is Ninetails. For one, it's a lot less "violent"-looking than Mightyena, but hides a more vengeful side if it is approached wrongly (namely, grabbing its tails); much like how despite her beautiful appearance, Carmine becomes a bit fired up if prodded wrong (though, thankfully doesn't lay a deadly curse upon people like Ninetails). After that is Leavanny, which is fairly interesting considering what it is known for. Leavanny are Pokemon famous for their nurturing, but it also only evolves from Swadloon with high friendship. In a similar vein, as our relationship with Carmine grows and we become better friends, we see that she's not actually that bad of a person and actually has quite the caring streak. She worries over Kieran and is usually trying to help him out, looking hard for a third mask before the festival for us, and getting angry on Ogerpon's behalf when she finds out the truth behind the story. Yet, while a gentle Pokemon, its Pokedex entries state that Leavanny also shows no mercy to those who endanger small Pokemon, similar to how Carmine shows no mercy against the Lousy Three after their attack on Ogerpon. Sinistcha was one that I initially kind of struggle for a link, but after some more looking, finally found something. For one, Sinistcha is based off of Japanese tea ceremony, which revolve the concept of being calm or zen. However, based on a camera angle that I managed to get during battle as it was being released (though it was blurry and I could be wrong), I'm pretty sure Carmine's Sinistcha is an Unremarkable Form one. This would mean it evolved from a Counterfeit Polchageist. Similarly, Carmine tries to pretend to be calm, but often fails when someone else points something out. But, Sinistcha's ability is called "Hospitality" which heals an ally when it comes out on field, hinting again at Carmine's hidden caring side. Finally is Morpeko, which has the simplest explanation. It's angry half the time, and happy the other half, making it a tsundere. Carmine is also a tsundere. Case closed. (For those of you who don't know what a tsundere is, it's a Japanese term to refer to characters who struggle to show their affection, often hiding it in bursts of anger, until the bond between them and the other party has become incredibly strong. Think of Misty, from the anime). But to be serious, the quick switch from anger to happy and vice-versa between the two is a good match. Though arguably, it is probably the weakest link out of this whole bunch. | Kieran | And here's the doozy. In his first team, Kieran only uses a Sentret and Yanma. Both pokemon are unassuming and rather weak, reflecting how most of us probably though of him at the start of the DLC. But by the time of our final battle with him, things have changed. He's gotten rid of his Sentret/Furret, and now he leads off with a Shiftry. In addition to being part Dark-type, it is literally known as the Wicked Pokemon! Furthermore, its Violet entry reads, "Legends tell of a bird Pokémon that received divine punishment for its evil deeds and had its beak and wings replaced." This could perhaps hint at a darker turn for Kieran which seems likely based on the ending to this DLC. His next Pokemon is Gliscor. Not only does this Pokemon look intimidating, but as a predator it's rather terrifying. It can glide silently and observes its prey silently, striking before the opponent has had a chance to realize. In a similar way, Kieran's more unpleasant tendencies were very well hidden early on (but still noticeable if you paid attention, such as his reasoning for liking the story of Ogerpon before finding out the truth of her story), only to come out in full force by the end when it was too late. Next up is Poliwrath which (beside literally having "wrath" in its name) is a Pokemon famous for its strength. This reflects Kieran's desire for strength, to an almost unhealthy degree, as he initially likes Ogrepon for its ability to take on three opponents at once, and this was while still thinking she was a villain who endangered the town. But another interesting thing is how his Poliwrath knows Belly Drum, a move that raises attack at the cost of the user's health. Similarly, I feel like Kieran's going to get stronger, but at the cost of something important to him. Or at the very least, he is definitely the type who would sacrifice his own well-being to get stronger. Fourth is Yanmega, his evolved Yanma from earlier. Not only does it look more intimidating in this form, but it has the ability Tinted Lens. Similarly, Kieran is seeing everything in the game through his own "Tinted Lenses," such as believing that Carmine and us are laughing about him when we're not. Furthermore, it is also known as the "Ogre Darner Pokemon," a reminder of Kieran's obsession with Ogerpon. Yanma also evolves into Yanmega via "Ancient Power," and if Kieran doesn't have some connection to Terapagos in the Indigo Disk (another "Ancient Power"), I'll be surprised. Second to last is Probopass, which, like Sinistcha for Carmine, I initially struggled to find a connection for but eventually did. Here, Probopass is a compass Pokemon, which means it is incapable of facing away from north. In other words, it can't change its point of view. In a similar way, Kieran struggles with being unable to accept things not going his way, unable to change his point of view, such as when Carmine apologizes for keeping Ogerpon a secret yet he doesn't accept it. Also, much like how Probopass is a magnet, which forces metal to come to it, Kieran tried to force Ogerpon to become his Pokemon even though she'd already made up her mind. And finally, we have Dipplin. Dipplin is, of course, based on a candied apple. However, it is not the apple itself, but rather the creature which has hollowed out the insides and now controls it. Earlier at the festival, if I remember correctly, Kieran showed an interest in the candied apples, much like many children would. However, by the point of this battle, that child-like nature has been hollowed out, leaving only a shell behind. And now, Kieran is controlled by envy toward us. And Envy is often associated with a green monster, much like how Dipplin's real form is green.

[@noobstoise1024]

This analysis is so good! I've figured Pokémon has been doing this kind of storytelling with plot important characters' teams as a subtle way to express their personalities or characteristics. I'm glad to see this kind of analysis on the two new characters.

[@user-Phoenix125]

Wow. I never would have seen that about them. It honestly makes me like both of them more, problems and all. Kudos to the Subredditor for making the similarity comparison.

[@Victoria-gk1wp]

This is fantastic. None of it is a stretch and it fits so nicely. That's an incredible amount of analysis and research. I say you should be a Pokemon professor with your specialty being the relationships between Pokemon and their trainers.

[@hoangkienvu7572]

I think Sinistcha is there because Carmine is a Japanese traditionalist and hates modern stuff, including tourism. She doesn't really hide her kindness or anything, she is pretty open about caring for Orgepon. It's her temper with Kieran that makes me scratch my head.

[@kachosuffer7]

@@hoangkienvu7572 Her temper might stem from the fact their parents are deceased. So she grew a bit more cold to them and well, everyone. I hope it's actually explained though

[@aquagreen13]

I’m so excited for Kieran’s villain arc in Indigo Disk. Hopefully it’s an actual villain arc and not some Blue/Silver rivalry.

[@Sundaryt]

Bro it's Pokemon it ain't happening

[@godyusopp]

imagine Kieran becoming the Unova champion

[@evagarcia865]

@@Sundarytthe professor of this game was evil, neglected their child, was killed by a legendary and replaced by a robot clone that turns out to be the final boss. i feel like they can do something “unpredictable”

[@bathilra5364]

@@SundarytI mean look at paul in masters

[@ashmander3465]

Rival green was a jerk

[@timmyreobed5043]

Ogerpon's storyline embodies the whole "treasure" theme of SV so dang well. It's masks were covered by greedy Pokemon for how they could empower their wearer, but where they saw value it their power, Ogerpon saw their value as a keepsake of her long-lost friend.

[@TimmyTam]

I love that you've basically kickstarted Kieran's Joker arc. Honestly kinda excited to see where that goes in the second dlc

[@Celestia282]

This isn't a Joker arc. Joker went evil because of *one* bad day. Kieran had, like, three bad days.

[@royalrai5304]

I felt so bad, we made a young, shy, kind kid start his villain arc

[@sociopotato9300]

I WOULD ABSOLUTELY DIE FOR OGERPON WITHOUTH QUESTION

[@fredwinston1325]

Hello Kieran

[@Pablo360able]

Kieran: "You will."

[@sociopotato9300]

Laugh all you want but Kieran is valid

[@FSKyurem]

I’ve basically adpoted Ogerpon as my second child. The first is Latias. Hands down would protect

[@sociopotato9300]

@@FSKyurem This 👆

[@alittlebitofeverythingyt7394]

Gotta love how me and Mikey had the exact same mindset with Pokeballs when catching Ogerpon and Blood Moon Ursaluna

[@miikaroos3809]

And I didn't have either a Friend Ball or a Moon Ball. :(

[@molberding5]

The one difference I had is that I caught the Loyal Three with Repeat Balls since the pattern matches their chains. Fezandipiti was a pain to catch tho 😅

[@Kiri_Gaming24]

Ogerpon is very friend shaped so there is another reason to use the friend ball.

[@Pablo360able]

God I wish I had a Moon Ball when I did the Ursaluna questline. And then I got one for completing the Dex, which was really just salt in the wound.

[@goldbergvids]

I didn’t have a moon ball for ursaluna, but I used a dusk ball on Ogerpon because I thought it fit the colors better

[@lakshyas.2496]

Kieran is coming back with fully competitively trained broken legendaries to demolish whatever and whoever stands in his way

[@CodeDemons]

Once again this proves how SV has one of the BEST storyline of all mainline Pokémon games like damn Kieran...just DAMN!

[@Voltrsh707]

Dlc storyline to be exact 😁

[@hazakurasuyama9016]

I still think BW and SM beat it (actually nvm it’s tied with SM, but still beat by BW) but SV comes extremely close and still one of the best

[@_Scizor.-]

@@hazakurasuyama9016I agree, solely because I like N

[@hazakurasuyama9016]

@@shinken6636 personally I disagree, but to each their own

[@Gay4545]

​@@shinken6636feel like the characters are great in SV Arven is basically ansty but done in a way where it's OK Nemona is a girl whis just trying to find someone as strong as her to battle cuz every battle is boring to her (basically the mc after becoming champion and no one to battle) And penny is a vibe (kinda annoying at times) but a vibe

[@afterburn7225]

Calling it now: Kieran is going to be BDSP Cynthia tier difficult in the Indigo Disk

[@curiouscreator8806]

I'm betting he'll have EV-trained Pokémon, useful held items, the best possible moveset / ability for the Pokémon on his team -- straight up a challenge for casual players. And I'm also thinking they'll make him switch out, predict the user's switch-ins and be capable of using full restores... and if the devs are daring enough to code it, maybe make him use max revives on his more useful Pokémon. That'll probably be a first for the series, a Trainer capable of using a revive on their Pokémon. But I think maybe they won't give him the capability of using max revives. Also, he'd probably be capable of Terastallizing his ace, making it even harder if he has a more powerful one... Anyways, yeah. I could see that being a thing.

[@inv_hana]

Villain arc

[@AneirinRPG]

​@curiouscreator8806 problem is alot of more casual player will quit if they make him too hard and how many actually finnished BDSP

[@Sailor-Khione]

I hope not. I already struggled with Cynthia. Like I almost got sick from stress. And please don't tell me " let us have something for once" because I can't control what pokemon does or to "git gud" not everyone is competitive like pokemon thinks we are now. They either make the game too easy or too hard, they can't seem to find a balance anymore. If we had 3 difficulties at the beginning to choose, we wouldn't have this issue. But again, I can't do anything about it.

[@afterburn7225]

@Sailor-Khione Fair, honestly. Pokémon games really should have a difficulty setting

[@alphawolf7417]

I love the siblings. They feel like actual developing characters and completely unique compared to most of our past rivals. Carmine going from hating your guts and being spiteful to talking to you directly during her goodbye was great. And Kieran going from a shy timid boy to the rage filled kid hell bent on taking us down gave me shivers. Definitely looking forward to more of them in the future. Also Ogerpon is friend shaped and she deserves all the hugs and headpats.

[@Meowscarada71]

His reaction to Tera-Ogerpon was amazing, cant wait to see his reaction to part 2!

[@NightMangleAgain]

Yep, part 2 is very good

[@CHEWTHESHOES]

@@NightMangleAgainhow would you know

[@NinjaAdorable]

@@CHEWTHESHOESHis uncle works at Nintendio... LMAO

[@curiouscreator8806]

@@NightMangleAgain this dude is at least three months ahead of us in this seemingly non-existent(?) alternate universe, it's not even December 2023 yet (which is definitely when Indigo Disc will release, I disagree with people who think it'll be released Early 2024) over here on Earth. (lol, i know it'll be good, it looks really good in general)

[@MatchaManx]

22:11 I like how you said “Oh it’s a girl!” When you noticed Ogerpon’s gender. Idk I just think it’s cute that it’s a 100% female legendary alongside Latias, Cresselia and Enamorus

[@rainpuppy14]

What about lunala

[@deinonychus1948]

@@rainpuppy14 Lunala and Solgaleo are genderless

[@alexfischer7876]

Ogerpon is basically Samus... so yeah.

[@AlolanDecidueye2715]

I love how they did the Ogerpon battle. That is such a good way to do a boss battle based around its masks and it terastalizing its masks.

[@Eagle-Mit-YT-Lucas]

Oh Hey Your Background Is AroAce Im AroAce As Well

[@cylasbreakdown6140]

So, to recap: you meet a sheltered, withdrawn kid with an abusive sister. You gradually help him come out of his shell and learn to stand on his own two feet. Then you keep secrets from him and tear his dream away at the last second, causing him to snap. Who’s the bad guy here? I feel like it’s us.

[@inv_hana]

True

[@alejandroandrescolmenaresb8640]

it was carmen ngl

[@unitds27-delta]

Hey, I tried to tell him! Carmine wouldn't let me!

[@Sailor-Khione]

His sister is the bad guy. We wanted to tell her the truth but she kinda threatened us to keep quiet.

[@bibigamer502]

I was completely willingly to tell him if it wasn’t for his sister tell us to keep our mouths shut

[@Ryodraco]

9:52 For a neat bit of Ogerpon anatomy, look close when she jumps and you can see she has neither arms nor shoulders. The "cloak" is part of her head and lets her manipulate objects as if she had arms.

[@unnamed6864]

Yea I see it and it’s cursed

[@levievil9220]

@@unnamed6864i think it’s cute

[@curiouscreator8806]

I already knew that 👍

[@claran3616]

@@unnamed6864 shaped like a cownosed ray

[@kachosuffer7]

I didn't need to know this and now I hate you forever

[@BrianStorm742]

I don't care if Kieran becomes a minor antagonist, I think he's kinda adorable and I feel bad for him.

[@finalbossgamer5481]

Kieran becoming a twist villain is something i genuinely didn't expect. None of the past twist villains in pokemon have suprised me, but watching Kieran slowly wither in his mind and eventually snap was the exact opposite of where i saw the dlc going.

[@Uggnog]

"This thing has to have a catch rate of like, 3" *Laughs maniacally*

[@hollyday1658]

Us gradually turning Kieran into a yandere was not the plot twist I expected.

[@tranatkikomi6873]

He was always a yandere, we just made his tendencies more open.

[@Avatarlover181]

That ending with Kieran has me genuinely nervous. I wanted to be his friend, but he seems to have become obsessed with beating me. Plus, I feel like him wanting to battle to determine who would become Ogerpon’s trainer was him seeing her as a prize. He couldn’t respect her desire to be the player’s Pokémon so he demanded a battle for her. Carmine was right in trying to get Kieran to consider what Ogerpon wanted, but he was selfish and insisted on the battle regardless. I hope that the Indigo Disk explains why he’s so determined to defeat the player.

[@Celestia282]

Kieran has some serious Nice Guy(TM) incel vibes. He did one good thing for Ogerpon and believed he "deserved" to have her.

[@saberella]

@@Celestia282 Kieran didn't really believe he "deserved" to have Ogerpon. He even says that he knows that the player would be a better trainer for her. He's not thinking rationally at this point. Ogerpon is the pokemon he's idolized literally his whole life, and given the stigma of that legend, it's likely that that love for her only made him more of an outcast than he already was. His *whole* dream was to get to meet Ogerpon. He didn't want to take her from her home until it was made clear she was going to leave, anyways. But not only did we accomplish his dream in three days, but we, the person who "betrayed" him (at least to him) by lying to him, the person he can't seem to beat no matter how hard he tries, are going to take Ogerpon as well. That fight is less about the prize of Ogerpon and more about Kieran lashing out at the player because he's about to lose one of the only things he loves.

[@Vanderon500]

During the story telling the truth about Ogerpon, it describes the masks powers. The real mask has the power to bring things back to life. So when Kieran took the mask to the shrine, it resurrected the loyal 3

[@thefnafdetective]

The Loyal 3 are not plants.

[@SiddharthShenoy]

I absolutely called Kieran's "twist" from the get go! The kid seemed like someone straight out of crime documentary! Just imagine it for a sec. "He was nice and quiet boy. He was very shy but had a good heart. Unfortunately, he didn't really have any friends. His sister despite how much she loved him manifested that love in a less than ideal way, constantly belittling him, scolding him and was generally very controlling of him. He admired a creature that was thought to have attacked the village and killed its defenders centuries ago, even before the real truth about in more recent times. One day, he met a kid and became friends with him. Unfortunately, the friend was much more talented than he was, constantly beating him everytime they fought until he stole the very creature that Kieran wanted so desperately, something he admired since his childhood, something that everyone ill-treated him for all stolen away by the innocence of victory. Kieran took an oath that day. That he'd get stronger no matter what the price and get back what he perceived as rightfully his." Tell me this doesn't sound like it came right out of a biopic about a serial killer.

[@TheWoodPile98]

Dear God it does!!

[@CloudyNight2156]

So... we made our friendly rival crazy... Welp, I can't possibly see anything bad happening.

[@TheVioletValiant4]

Seeing you actively struggle to catch the Loyal Three makes me feel a little better, I was losing my MIND while trying to catch them.

[@brianweber4170]

Fun fact: the pool of water you were in at the end is the only place in Kitikami you can catch Feebas outside of raids.

[@MarcusLam-ks7kb]

I caught Feebas in a raid right near the pond😂😂😂😂

[@lulabelle5452]

Not the crystal pool but the pool in the cavern with the Masked Orge Trainer.

[@Chris_Pickaxe]

The promotional art for the indigo disk has Kieran facing away so that we can't see his face. In that last scene with him, it looked like he was putting his hair up. I'm really excited to see where his story goes 👀

[@Amitlu]

"So yeah I know this makes things even worse, but I totally knocked out Ogerpon with my Sinistcha in a battle just now. But I am sure she's being treated well otherwise!" Carmine, probably.

[@x-Lilith-x]

I think the 'loyal three' coming back to life was triggered by Kieren Punching the monument out of frustration causing it to break and releasing them. At least I think that's what happened.

[@aydenjanisse]

I was genuinely afraid of Keiran's cliff hanger, not just because of the cutscene but my hand and nose randomly started to bleed.....

[@jexxisahuman9073]

wait wat

[@ryanrevell6475]

Kieran is just like, frick this guy specifically

[@Limbolots0]

Sometimes nose bleeds just happen, but your HAND???

[@delphoxhoopa7289]

I BEG YOUR PARDON?! 😳😰

[@edwardschtick6935]

Sad that this is the last episode, I wish the DLC was even longer.

[@KingToast_SirToastOfficial]

Wait for part 2

[@JeffDaDude]

Yeh

[@jellymemo6384]

Said af

[@jusaprogamermkgaming2821]

We have indigo disc bro don't worry

[@slaytahharwood417]

We just have to wait 10-12? More weeks

[@ameliadriscoll8634]

Of course Briar is blinded by the children, she has monster eyes that are adapted to darkness!

[@GrandiaKnight]

Glad to see Mikey's reaction to the Loyal 3 fights were the same as mine. They were such a pain to capture!

[@shadowdragun]

Fezandipity by far the worst if thrm. And the wirdt thing is you dint rven get really rewarded for catching it that much since its a support pokemon with one stat above 100

[@goldenwitherphoenix1389]

Really? I only had problems with fezandipity who ended up in a timer ball. Munkidori and Okidogi accepted the quick balls real quickly on my end.

[@King_Kitsune]

​@@goldenwitherphoenix1389the easiest was Monkidori for me but I had to master ball Fezandipiti because I forgot to save and it had a burn. Okidogi was just super annoying

[@EndlessNight025]

It helps a little if you make a sandwich with catch power Poison or for one of their secondary type. I only remembered to do it for Okidogi, though… Still, I managed to get them all in Luxury Balls.

[@luckyinky7849]

I started with Munkidori, which was easy, then Okidogi which was a bit harder, and then ended with Fezandipidi, alias "get in the ball you freaking twink"

[@uxxbotYT]

I’m sooooo excited for part 2 of the dlc cause i wanna see Kieran and Carmine again they are probably one of my favorite charectors in all of pkm and Carmine is like Nemona and Kieran reminds me a lot like Wally and wally is easily my favorite rival CANT WAIT TIL PART 2

[@HeracrossForUnite]

I prefer the boulder

[@uxxbotYT]

@@HeracrossForUniteWhat the flipperb

[@SantaClawsYT]

​@@HeracrossForUniteUm...this is Pokemon, not avatar.

[@uxxbotYT]

@@SantaClawsYTohhhh i get it

[@jusaprogamermkgaming2821]

Man science and pokemon are amazing

[@kaidenrichards1045]

Your profile picture is amazing and it brings me back to the good ol days...

[@TheSebliterator]

I put Ogrepon in a Friend Ball too, seemed fitting and strangely matches her color scheme to some degree.

[@damianwolfe613]

Ogerpon actually uses a cudgel for Ivy Cudgel and I love it.

[@damianwolfe613]

huh the scam artist left.

[@michaelgibson3479]

To be honest scarlet and violet are just nutty with the underlying story to everything. Like kids rallied up to form gangs with a big boss in charge to govern things to fight bullies. You have gym leaders that like geeta, some that really don't and a couple that are straight depressed mainly Larry and the ice type gym leader. Arvin is straight abandoned like naruto, then his parent is killed and he has no knowledge or even how to take that news in the end, all while learning his parent built a so called time machine that has the possibility to constantly release Pokemon from who knows where that could create a Major problem for paldea. He also is afraid the only friend he has is going to die and has major trust issues along with penny. We literally made friends with the weird kids and yes nemona is included in that. Now we have Kieran who is one bad day from creating an evil team for world domination all because we constanty beat him and his sister destroyed his ego with his family not helping. And that's just the main people.

[@Celestia282]

The player character was born in the 2010s; we're just being smart. We're befriending all the weird, outcast kids so that if one of them goes Columbine, we'll get the "Don't go to school tomorrow" text. Unfortunately, things backfired with the one most likely to go Columbine, and we're packing up our things to go to his school tomorrow.

[@ZackaryJordan-zk4hb]

And this is where Kieran's villan arc begins

[@sociopotato9300]

It must suck being the other students on the field trip wit the LITERAL CHAMPION of Paldea and just doing nothing but taking photos of signs and eating candy apples

[@jacobkohr7243]

Oh hey, I caught Ogerpon in a Friend Ball too! She truly is friend shaped!

[@rpgrage7711]

Time for the grand final the ending felt really unsettling to me honestly like I'm very excited to how indigo disk will be

[@greggceballos2611]

The Teal Mask is like those anime where the trio consists of: A clueless protag, A yandere love interest, and a shy type character that by the end of the season slowly turns to the dark side.

[@MarcusLam-ks7kb]

Pretty sure Carmine is a Tsundere

[@Roblox_Bedwars_Farmer_Cletus]

All I see here are truths

[@snailmix]

I can’t wait for Kieran to grow a spine in the next DLC and finally kick my ass. Dude’s been catching L’s since the beginning

[@FourtyQ]

Damn bro, our character got so much rizz that both of the siblings love us

[@rosenrot234]

Kieran only saw Ogerpon as something scary for him to feel better Meanwhile our trainer sees Ogerpon, gets to her eye level, and compliments her mask. No wonder she wanted to hang out with us instead. I swear Kieran reminds me of those parasocial folks that project stuff onto people. Then they get mad when they're not what they projected. He constantly tried to go to where Ogerpon lived. Even trying to battle for her regardless of her own choices. And his switch from calling you special to wanting to beat you to the point of obsession. This is a neat different story for Pokemon. I dig it.

[@FREEDOMISMYNAME450]

To be honest Kieran was loving ogerpon like a idol until we came along and started making everything fall apart His sister started to prioritize us over him, started to lie to him and even lashed out at him 🗿 then ogerpon chooses us he was very jealous and then Kieran decided to enter stalker mode

[@FREEDOMISMYNAME450]

also btw this does not mean that his sister is innocent nor the players choices

[@chriskagamine358]

He’s a lonely (autistic coded) child who had a hyperfixation with Ogerpon and wanted Ogerpon to know their was someone who didn’t hate her, so neither of them had to be lonely. I swear people are putting the worst intentions on a literal child just so they can love his abusive older sister

[@rosenrot234]

I never said I didn't like Kieran. I get the story they're going for with him. @@chriskagamine358

[@tranatkikomi6873]

@@chriskagamine358Nope. I don’t love Carmine, both of the siblings have their issues. The only difference is one learns to change from it and one falls into a spiral out of selfishness. I’m not going to feel sorry for a kid who chucks a hissy just because the ogre he idolised for strength doesn’t like him as much. Through the years, he kept encroaching on her territory. That would be considered stalking. And keep in mind what happened the last time someone snuck into her home when she was away - her masks were stolen and her only friend presumed murdered, then she went on a grief-stricken rampage and was ostracised further as a result. Do you think someone going up to her cave all the time would have earned them any favours in her eyes? Next, the first thing the PC does upon meeting Ogerpon by accident? Talks to her in a friendly way and tries to give back the mask she accidentally dropped. Already, trust is being built. Next, Kieran steals the mask after it had been repaired and then accidentally results in the revival of the three that stole Ogerpon’s masks and likely killed her only companion. PC comes to her rescue when the three go after her and gives her back her mask. Then acts as a bodyguard while helping retrieve the other masks. Kieran does go to tell the town they were wrong all along against his grandfather’s wishes. But he doesn’t explain anything when he tells Ogerpon to go to the village with him. How is she to know for sure she would be safe if she went? She only goes after PC helps reassure her that Kieran can be trusted. Finally, PC was willing to let her go back home after all was said and done, but she decided she didn’t want to be alone and wanted to stay with PC. Kieran’s immediate response? “NO, STAY WITH ME!! BATTLE ME FOR IT!!” He completely disregards her feelings and even treats her like a trophy to be won by that point because he felt that he was entitled to be with her. Kieran is an example of parasocial relationships gone toxic. “I was a fan first, they should be with ME!!” Doesn’t matter if he is autistic-coded. His entitlement is toxic and inappropriate. Don’t use possible autism as an excuse.

[@cassandraspoelhof3752]

Haven’t played this yet as I don’t have the DLC but OMG this looks so amazing and Ogrepon is SO CUTE! I want her SO BADLY! She is SO PRECIOUS!

[@Acasuallookingbacon69420]

Kieran's villian arc is going to be BIG

[@datura7040]

As I said before, Kieran is both the cutest and the creepiest character

[@CindyHelms]

Okay, I'm almost POSITIVE Terapagos had something to do with Kieran’s descent into madness! There's no other way to explain it since he's gonna be in the next DLC… I swear I think we're seeing in real time what happened to the Professors happening to him.

[@MysteryGuradian]

Ikr i think so too

[@unkillableplays6399]

I'm currently in the ER and I am filled with joy to watch this

[@gonko_the_spartan]

what happened

[@unkillableplays6399]

@@gonko_the_spartan some abdominal pain which was almost my appendix bursting. Luckily it wasn't and I walk another day. I'm cherishing life even more.

[@gonko_the_spartan]

@@unkillableplays6399 damn I hope you get better

[@ONLY_RR7]

@@unkillableplays6399I feel for you, had my appendix burst in 2016 and it was probably the worst pain I’ve ever felt. Get well soon

[@sexysoup631]

damn, hospital buddies ig?

[@beansontoast0724]

Kieran gives me a Volo vibe in that he is a super nice character turned evil

[@micahgreen5995]

Some say keiren was the final boss fight Some say it was ogrepon But we all know it was kotetsu from the ogre clan

[@OkapiPlays]

Mikey you're such a good content creator! Keep it up we love you!!!

[@alphachiu]

mickey

[@OkapiPlays]

​@@alphachiu No there's no c in his name

[@JonaSam178]

Its a weird joke the community has. Mikey doesnt like it tho(i think i might be wrong)

[@brandonhiatt2546]

I hope Kieran becomes the equivalent of BDSP Cynthia in the next DLC.

[@khushidudy6293]

@user-oi8cc9dr1v it is a fake

[@ollstermc]

The epic finale was indeed epic

[@sleeveless_]

This comment about the epic epic finale is indeee epic

[@ryubimaru]

Just imagine how he reacted when he discovered there were at least another 2 of the ogre clan trainers just hanging out

[@MaxWelton]

30:05 New direction? No way. Have you SEEN Nemona? She’s down bad!

[@ronnyishottie18]

MAN i loved this DLC. i really hope Kieran's villian arc is big, cuz it would be so sad if it was disappointing.

[@yinyang2820]

The fight with Ogerpon really showed how it was able to straight up kill three Poison types as a pure grass type in a 1v3

[@Pamples2602]

I’m so annoyed because I thought you had to fight carmine with just ogerpon so I spent an hour figuring out the best mask move set and what all her Pokémon would do at what time before I ended up winning 😅😅

[@joshuabergman3292]

*Ogerpon is filled with determination *You are filled with Hope

[@chaostheultimayt]

*Seeing Ogerpon’s adventures with you reconstituting it’s strength fills you with Determination.

[@sholamakinde430]

*You are filled with the happiness of meeting another Undertale fan.

[@Dubior_64]

* *Epic Music Starts Playing* *

[@joshuabergman3292]

@@Dubior_64 *Asgore Battle Theme fades and intensifies*

[@FREEDOMISMYNAME450]

*Ogerpon Uses The Heartflame mask he gains PERSEVERANCE!

[@lico0814]

I also put Ogerpon in a friend ball because it's a friend uwu I can't wait for Kieran's story to continue, it was an unexpected little twist!

[@greythegreat23]

Did you just say “uwu” 💀

[@FREEDOMISMYNAME450]

he did not just say uwu

[@SeaweedBrainCabin3]

Homie really hit us with the “UwU Rawr XD”

[@TechnoArpan]

U did not just "uwu"

[@FREEDOMISMYNAME450]

Lico: I identify as 200 pump/fursome/ Wednesday/ destiny_slayerx

[@bigfootsb284]

Gholdengo: Am I a joke to you? Gholdengo is a steel ghost type.

[@eletraf]

“Gonna finish this with my new favorite move” *Sad armour cannon noises*

[@Mikethekingboss]

I can’t wait to see you play the indigo disk later this year!

[@kuvik764]

It's not coming out till next april...

[@flynnhunter416]

​@@kuvik764it comes out in the winter. That's all we know about for now.

[@rey_0f_sunshine.]

If Kieran’s ace on his villain arc/probably champion team doesn’t have the move Burning Jealousy I’m throwing a fit

[@lulabelle5452]

The "I hate this monkey!" & "you stupid bird!" had me laughing so hard. Lol Okidoki being the only one to be ok to fight is hilarious.

[@Roblox_Bedwars_Farmer_Cletus]

Okidogi seems like okidoki which seems like okey dokey wich is ok

[@blueflameboi]

AI is taking over! Kieran predicted twice that Mikey will switch into a Pokémon that’s week to the Pokémon he said he would!

[@WelshDan15]

I mentioned it in one of the previous parts, but I really do appreciate how Kieran improved his team, like he has some real competitive strats going on and while that was annoying for me at the time, I think it's a good sign of what to expect from him & other trainers in the Indigo Disk DLC. Also *SUPER* happy to see Mike use the Friend Ball too, it's just perfect for Ogerpon.

[@jiesheng7169]

Kieran may as well be evil in the indigo disk. God knows how scary that kid could possibly be😂

[@thecjgameworld4013]

40:30 You're right on the money as the descriptions they had as titans talked about how they used to be boring old animals who wished to have great things and then were each granted Brain, Brawn, & Beauty respectively, giving them thier typings of Psychic, Fighting, & Fairy. But after hearing this version of Okidogi's entry, I now realize that it was the toxic chains they wore that forced these typings to reveal themselves.

[@thatonet9787]

Kieran bout to go on his villain arc💀💀💀

[@claran3616]

Kieran has Rom Hack Rival mentality, everybody frickin Brace yourselfs.

[@silverthorn9759]

Kieran's got his supervillain origin story.

[@Ford-Anglia]

“I don’t think there’s any ghost/steel types in the game” *Sad Goldengo noises*

[@Azaril_]

I don't get why everyone wants to give Ogerpon to Kieran when they make it abundantly clear that Ogerpon doesn't want that. Carmine even says to consider Ogerpon's feelings. Yet most streamers/youtubers I watch only consider Kieran's feelings. I'm not denying that Kieran went through a lot, but so did Ogerpon. Why are his wishes considered to be more important than Ogerpon's? Just because she is a Pokémon? She is clearly sentient. She has the right to decide who she wants to go with, and she chose the protagonist, not Kieran. That aside, I really enjoyed this series, keep up the great work! Looking forward to your Indigo Disk series.

[@MikeTheEnforcer]

Agreed. Lost how many times I've pointed out you can't force a pokemon to like you, and the fact your character bonded with Ogerpon.

[@chriskagamine358]

Yeah, but Ogerpon literally just has Main Character infatuation disease. This boy tried to become friends with Ogerpon for years just to be like “this tourist was nice to me for a day ‘fuck you Kieran’”. Gamefreak needed to make it work that Ogerpon goes with you, but they wrote it terribly. The 3 main humans in this DLC are a bully sister, a lonely autistic boy, and a kid who gets given special treatment wherever they go because that’s how it was written

[@TechnoArpan]

@@chriskagamine358 Exactly. The problem is that Pokemon MCs get special treatment everywhere and that's why a lot of us want side characters to get some shine too

[@Azaril_]

@@chriskagamine358 This boy didn't even meet Ogerpon in all those years, and the protagonist did way more for Ogerpon than Kieran. Y'all are blinded by your pity for Kieran. The only thing he did was telling everyone in the village the truth about Ogerpon, which was nice, but he didn't spend much time with Ogerpon. The protagonist and Carmine on the other hand saved Ogerpon from the lousy three, helped repair the Teal Mask, and helped retrieve the other masks while traveling with Ogerpon. It's not badly written, on the contrary, it makes perfect sense why Ogerpon feels more attached to the MC than to Kieran. Ogerpon doesn't know Kieran like we do.

[@Dessert_And_Tea]

"I could equip myself with a ghost steel type..." Proceeds to forget Gholdengo's entire existence.

[@sheridanwolf]

Carmine:Horribly toxic until the very end after meeting Ogrepon, calms down slightly Kieran:Calm, shy, and quiet, until the very end when he became obsessed about it Ogerpon to a toxic level Me:No wonder why when he visited the cave all those times before, she never showed herself,she probably sensed some sort of darkness in him or something he and his sister had completely opposite character development. It's always the quiet kids man

[@gerieconomides2776]

I'd say that Carmine is more "average older sister who hates her younger sibling but actually secretly loves them they just irritate her" (speaking as a younger sister) and less toxic, but I do see where you're coming from.

[@PixarShark]

Kieran leading with Shiftry in this final battle seems strangely appropriate……

[@KindaKidGamer]

I feel bad for Kieran. I honestly feel he should've been the one to have Ogerpon But that villain arc tho, It's about to go crazzyyyy Also I find the 'loyal' three all being boys leaning towards the bad boy trope hilarious

[@JonaSam178]

No you dont

[@Celestia282]

I thought that at first, too, but upon further reflection, he really doesn't deserve Ogerpon's friendship. He's not a good kid, and he wouldn't treat her well. The only reason he liked Ogerpon in the first place is that he admired how strong he was. Remember, he was obsessed with the ogre even at the very beginning when he believed she was a bad guy who harassed the village and murdered its loyal guardians. He never wanted to be friends with her; he just wanted to use her strength. Giving Ogerpon to Kieran would not have averted his villain arc.

[@Mr-Trox]

They're not "bad boys", they're archetypes of stereotypical villains. Okidogi is the dumb muscle, Munkidori is the old man with weird powers, and Fezandipiti is the flamboyant one.

[@hmbrandon164]

Mikey gets his revenge, fantastic conclusion to The Teal Mask

[@nayrguy]

How come no one gets this. The loyal three came back to life because of the teal mask, which BRINGS LIFE BACK TO STUFF AROUND IT!

[@jeffman23]

i would like to note at 6:10 Mikey says that kurin predicted the switching in ice is super effective to ground type.

[@bfeldz1023]

Glad to see Mikey make the correct decision and put the friend shaped pokemon into the friend ball.

[@jasond.b-w]

I’ve been refreshing your channel ALL MORNING for this! Not having access to these sorts of games or the physical ability to play them as a profoundly disabled person living without food or shelter security, I’ve been learning about Pokemon through videos and Smogon. Your playthrough videos are always my favorite because of your storytelling, personality, and the time you take to read and talk through everything. It’s really helpful and entertaining all in one, and I always look forward to new uploads. Thanks for making such a difference in my day! :)

[@andyhodgson7882]

Aw, this is nice!

[@SteelPennies]

I love how Mikey and PM7 defeated Kieren with their Dipplins!😂

[@zeekslider]

Never noticed that the Cornerstone Mask's eyes glow when it uses Ivy Cudgel. That's cool!