HUNTER x HUNTER CHAPTER 409 | "NEGOTIATIONS PART 3"

[@ManganimistYT]

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[@StridingJack425]

I never thought that you had a liking goth mommy morena”s ears new fetish unlocked

[@kenteato]

Read this from a reddit comment. When Borksen went to "check" on the cards again, she could have secretly marked the card by crumpling it slightly. Then at the end she makes sure to cover that tactic by saying she was too excited. Feels like such a small interaction to include unless Togashi wanted to bring attention to it for whatever reason

[@ManganimistYT]

@@kenteato love that idea

[@Sponsorbagel]

Borkson on that "i can fix her" mentality

[@eternalscholar4706]

I think she planning to get power and build her own family for her goal , while keeping an eye of the heily

[@captainhoopla7773]

Fam you feel me😂

[@sapomen1352]

Togashi added morena to the story just to draw girls kissing trust

[@ixiNOVA]

He didn’t even draw them kissing tho

[@catalinarose3306]

What. There is a lot of depth in Morena's character. Togashi writes characters with better purposes. This is not one of your echii mangas.

[@mahmudoubah]

@@catalinarose3306you must be fun at parties

[@sapomen1352]

​@@catalinarose3306 i was making a damm joke dawg It aint that sérious 💀

[@Ofwhateverrrrrr]

​​@@sapomen1352bro was waiting for the moment to finally strike someone and found it 😂😂

[@golbez1583]

Honest belief: she said yes because vorgsen recognizes the danger that morena represents, and integrating herself into the group not only gives her a powerful Nen ability, but also direct agency into the actions of the Heil-Ly. After all, notice how in Morena’s description of her ability, nowhere was it stated that Vorgsen *must* be loyal to Morena; furthermore, Vorgsen has seen firsthand what the Heil-Ly can do, and the repeated clarification of Morena’s goal seemed to me like someone assessing just how determined Morena is to follow their goal to the bitter end.

[@JP-eo8zw]

I think its more so that going back to army right now might just be death for her. She is curious about nen and needs power to protect herself and investigate the matter.

[@edgbarra]

Plus, now she knows that Morena doesn't know all of the abilities of the members, so she could hide hers

[@JP-eo8zw]

@@edgbarra Thats also true, the members dont need to tell her everything. She also probably asked if she would be manipulated and choose yes bc she wont.

[@fan4every1lol89]

Isn't her goal to protect Tserriednich? So I assume she concluded this is the best way to do that

[@Alienn-o_o]

but Morena's ability will work on her only if they share "same goal"

[@gellentumbudi1805]

If u are worried about Togashis helth a trusted source of mine said they gave Togashi a senzu bean

[@sapomen1352]

But unironicaly i think he (or someone Else dont remenber Sorry) talked about How his back pain isnt as bad as Before It still Hurts but aparently he can now Draw Sat on a chair ( he was drawing stuff on his bed for a while bcs his back pain made It so he couldnt Draw on a chair) Tho take This w a grain of Salt bcs im Not sure If This is true

[@smollate1208]

someone managed to clear Greed Island for the 2nd time and gave the Angel's Breath card to Togashi sensei

[@ManganimistYT]

@@gellentumbudi1805 based

[@LathropLdST]

Someone needs to get the Dark Continent grain and feed it to him at this point.

[@Tortilla.Reform]

Considering Morena said she has her goals as the parent, and her children have their own goals as well, and both work to achieve each others, maybe Borksen plans to have her goal, as a newly empowered nen specialist, is to sabotage and take down her parent and the threat they face

[@SubliminalVerde]

My New Favorite Yt Channel for HxH content

[@PublicNemesis]

damn that chapter was peak, Togashi is cooking so hard

[@sapomen1352]

Cant believe we getting another hiatus soon😭😭

[@chargemannyn2918]

@@sapomen1352pls dont jinx it bro 😭

[@Alienn-o_o]

​@@sapomen1352 its hiatusxhiatus for a reason 😭 but I'm grateful they gave us some chapters

[@jakeferry9879]

It really wasnt

[@stanleyjuma5120]

@@sapomen1352 we are supposed to get 30 chapters so even if there's gonna be a hiatus after chap 410 it is'nt gonna be that long

[@francisjomergallardo4593]

I think Borksen pulled of a Gon and actually wanted to get the R card from the start, and set up the "checking" as a guise to mark the R card.

[@DevangSeath]

That can also explain the crumbling r card part

[@stevenkirkwood7039]

I feel like since the game itself is an extension of Nen, the card she chooses will always “change” to what her true desire is for an answer- that would explain why it didn’t matter who chose the cards and the shuffling is just for show so Borksen can’t see that the moment of her choice changes the identity of the card. Why I believe this is that it could be possible for someone to try and cheat at the game to gain membership and betray Morena, something she would be wary of from her past and working in a crime family; an ability for getting people to join and wanting your interests to align would make sense to require your choices to reflect your actual desires so Morena can’t be fooled that way

[@Okaybreaks]

Ever heard of the "Melodussy"

[@Fergus22]

No. Please. Not here... I can't escape it... we'll never escape it...

[@jhonreysumagaysay2667]

Is this the new "the properties of gum and rubber"? Hahahaha

[@MatthewKGarr]

I did not expect to see that over here 😂😂

[@caliqm2199]

No no no no please don't

[@fan4every1lol89]

oh god it's spreading like Morena's contagion

[@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079]

every single chapter you think the tensions gonna disperse then the man the myth the legend togashi just keeps the peak going my god how can a card game be more exciting than most newgen fights glaze over

[@bigdiff1290]

it would seem all the specialist we have seen so far in the hxh universe are big brained players. Kurapika Chrollo Morena and now Borksen i might have missed some others

[@JJdidtheshimmy]

I believe they’re are 10 confirmed specialist so far

[@JP-eo8zw]

Nah, this is confirmation bias. On the semi-canon side, Leol and Hina arent that bright. On 100% canon characters, Alluka is older than Kalluto and much less mature than him. Neon was very childish too. Tseri is not intelligent per se, just a prodigy of Nen. Meleoron, Renko (character from Chrollo's backstory), Pakunoda, are normal, none of them did something crazy. I might be understimating some of them but compared to those four in specific, they are just normal. Also, plenty of smart characters in other categories, its just confirmation bias.

[@SociallyAwareMan]

I agree with everyone you said aside from Tserri. Don’t count out the intelligence of a nen prodigy. Even Komugi (I dont know if we know her affinity) is incredibly intelligent just around her specific field.

[@Bandit.Chrollo]

Not really all of them. Some are basic. Also Kurapika it's a Conjurer. He becomes Specialist only due to scarlet eyes/emperor time so idk exactly if it's correct to call him a Specialist.

[@ayinstrumentals7731]

The guy they met during the greed island arc that could eat hair and gain information on someone was a soecialist

[@sillypopcorn1006]

borksen really said "i can fix her"

[@CharTurner6928]

I'm kinda loving Borksen...how is Borksen, a never been kissed innocent, a friend of that savage murderer Tserriednich?

[@LathropLdST]

Isnt' her a childhood friend?

[@captainhoopla7773]

Easy we don’t pick our friends they pick us😂

[@captainhoopla7773]

@@LathropLdSTyup

[@8440k]

Maybe she was a spare, he wanted to save her for his last artwork or something along the lines?

[@TheLastCrow5150]

Togashi just had us nervously watch a card game he made up for three chapters in Borksen's point of view; making a chapter which had the most dialog of any manga panel in history. Togashi has all of us theorizing what happened. As usual, we'll all be wrong and completely floored by what happened.

[@DayzaAziz]

Even Borksen couldn't resist the Morenussy

[@DaityaGod]

I see fandom is still sticking with blonde hair for "Morena"

[@Alienn-o_o]

she has bluish green hair right?

[@ayo123]

Green don't suit her ngl

[@luizrafael7939]

Morena is brunette in Portuguese. Shes probably browned hair... Or at least the original Morena was, but again tho, to be a replacement for the original she had to have the hair close enough.

[@Tortilla.Reform]

Theory craft--Theoretically, Borksen could join, and also choose to not level up or unravel and sabotage Morenas plans, while stille having Contagion. She could choose to not kill people for the game, and only level up when killing in self defense or for the sake of dismantling the Heil-Ly. Togashi is an incredible storyteller, so much respect

[@Ice918]

Happy holidays, thanks for the review

[@ramseyking1607]

I watch all your TikTok’s but have to come to KZbin when the videos get so long😂

[@LxAxV]

One of the smartest way to grow a KZbin channel organically lol

[@captainhoopla7773]

Mid/long vids are ideal for hxh content

[@Yunakimi8]

Borksen is Morena's Komugi. lol

[@McM07-p4d]

We know who's s getting turned into a t - shirt next by Tserriednich

[@LathropLdST]

Yep. She cannot go back and lie to Terror Sandwich.

[@sapomen1352]

I mean considering that tserriednich is a misoginistic ahh mfer i wouldnt b surprised If he been waitng for any reason to Put Bork on a coffing lol

[@captainhoopla7773]

You don’t take Tserriednich’s belongings

[@SilkBuckets]

wow morena asking bork if she wants to look at the cards after losing X again is brutalllll lmao what a savage

[@captainhoopla7773]

All I’m saying Morena would know someone inexperienced 😢

[@stevenkirkwood7039]

What seems to make the most sense is for Borksen to learn Nen under Morena, cultivate a specialist ability (knowing there isn’t a restriction on other types that can be molded into her ability), and develop a hatsu for the purpose of replacing Morena as the head of the family and using them to change Kakin as she said she would What could also be interesting is for her to learn Nen under Morena and eventually Tserreidnich or her pals will rescue her, and she will share her knowledge of Nen with the group, and perhaps if she hasn’t gotten a hatsu by then she may choose to develop one to help Tserry

[@Alkhemia8]

Phinx and Feitan death flags are getting larger and larger might turn into boksons first kills to her to a quick 20

[@twiss9341]

How’d you jump to Bok getting involved with phinx and Feitan? Is that your version of a nobonunga hunch?

[@Alkhemia8]

@@twiss9341 they about to attack the hideout where the Heil-Ly and Borksen are unless the game takes place after Phinx and Feitan already attacked it should happen soon

[@sapomen1352]

I mean she didnt even know nen a short time Ago unless she gets help from some morena ppl idk If she can do a 2 v 1 like that

[@metalsadman]

dang, what an interesting chapter, thanks for the rundown. I'm going to read it all once Togashi goes on hiatus again.

[@captainhoopla7773]

Fr it’s nice gettn it weekly but nowI gotta yet again reread this mf😂

[@llewellynmkhize4472]

Im really enjoying these reviews

[@josiahlikestodance]

Dude you are so on it. I didn’t even know it was out yet

[@SerpentineDeity]

Why is Morena so adorable?

[@whatdoyoumean-d6m]

thank you for your reviews and analysis.. I barely read the chapters thanks to you 😂😂

[@Fergus22]

WE GOT MARTIAL LAW!!! LESGOOOO!!!

[@vthinh237]

The moment I hear the conditions I would join them on the spot

[@BlitzB102]

This felt like a Komugi moment. Everything flipping on its head because of the outcome of a game. Togashi is another Shakespeare and I can’t wait to see what’s to come.

[@LloydLadera]

Togashi’s wife definitely helped with the art for this chapter.

[@LathropLdST]

And the previous one as well. The shoujo eyes are a d€∆d ringer.

[@captainhoopla7773]

Lower tiers ya good go about ya business 😂😂😂 I found that hilarious

[@SpellsOfTruth]

Borksen probably selected Yes figuring she can use her ability to stop/unalive morena and everyone in her group. There are no conditions that she must go along with morena and the group.

[@brettrichardson7924]

togashi really got so spooked by the ghost of miura he wrote a mental novel on how a whale boat would be designed to hide the mafia, I hope he keeps cooking because honestly the art is fire but could be terrible and id still be loving this story.

[@kolmogorov4149]

Happy thanksgiving my goat

[@LeoBeastmode]

Perhaps Borksen is going to develop her ability to have some clause to force Merena to concede her goal.

[@melonhead60]

Manganimist? More like guy who explains the newest chapter of _____ (what he's meant to do)! keep it up much love 💪💪

[@Warwick12]

where do you find the colored versions of the recent chapters

[@magicxxrjxx536]

7:03 her ability will out someone who’s been a user for years that we(the audience) never knew of

[@BrownOrion-z1f]

I faintly thought this to be the case, think back to what Borksen's goals were. To return to her mundane life no matter what. After the last string of questions offered to Morena, she can't do that, she long sense lost her naivatay to live a normal life knowing about nen, Morena's backstory, she could only feign ignorance beyond this point. Bc she has seen, heard, and learned too much of the extraordinary.

[@victordeluca7360]

Plot twist: There's no hidden goal or nen involved, Morena is just that good at kissing. Bork never stood a chance.

[@8440k]

My nitpick is that Togashi sensei didn’t draw the kiss scene but I’m very curious about the implication of yes card? why was the martial law instated?

[@zorosan1624]

She either isn't really loyal to Tserriednich or she plans to sacrifice herself for his good, either way i'm sure we will certainly get mindblown by Togashi once again

[@Musashi-if3tl]

I am hoping Borksen becomes Komugi to Morena(Mereum) and has a change of heart. Morena is too OP with strong nen and she can gladly and justifiably take her revenge on the Kakin family , she'll find plenty of allies like Kurapika, spiders, Halkenburg et al😅. But then use this chaos to build a better world that she never got which is a simple life just like Borksen dreams of. Now, Togashi has already shown connection of mind and heart with Mereum and Pouf and Koupi and it could be that Borksen and Morena are now both connected spiritually and her infection could become a gateway for her to touch Morena's soul and help her with her trauma.❤❤

[@JP-eo8zw]

I think you left out the "cut" between the Enhancers question and the last question. Borksen asked many other questions that got skipped, probably she tried the "There 2 Enhancers? 3 Enhancers?" strategy and found out all she could think she needed to know. She probably know a substantial amount of what Morena knows, inclunding some of the abilities of the members and destribution of afinities.

[@bluemassgamer17]

If morena can't tell what nen ability will be granted. Due to Barson doubtful natural her granted Nen ability may allow her to break free from contagion.

[@sagittario42]

the fan art of the girl with the scar makes me goon for her

[@inigo137]

so what happens if a member kills other members of the family? do you get lvls? is it accepted since the goal is to kill all humans? is it treason? cause that's what I'm wondering when she has picked up yes

[@JP-eo8zw]

I think you just gain a level and the others can act normally on the betrayel

[@Gadzs_]

Any chance you can start talking about chapters before 400?

[@luizrafael7939]

Im pretty sure that we wont follow the girls in 410 tho. Im certain that we will shift focus to back in time during the negotiation but to follow kurapika classes + silent majority plot or melody + luzurus attempted murd3r plot ... and I will be pleased enough. The most anticipation is to the last page of 410, are we going to read an editor note telling us that we are going to have another hiatus or are we going to push fowards until at least 420 ? Please make this patch longer than 10 chapters 🙏🏼

[@DERderZOCKT]

Does this mean that borksen is gonna go kill some people now?

[@scarlletnull2811]

Nice hair also did anyone else hear a cat at 13:08?

[@virnim]

YES! YES!

[@LiquidSnake1988]

Where are you getting colored version??? plsss If someone could just give me the link for no bubble text then that would be great 🎉

[@WaltzTheOji]

Just gonna watch this instead of looking for the latest chapter 😎

[@100carlosfermin]

Nah bro that’s criminal behavior, a real one reads the Togashi's Troupe translation, the TCB translation and the official release + every possible KZbin video talking about the chapter

[@WaltzTheOji]

@@100carlosfermino7

[@grimexecutioner]

Cant wait for this to get animated when im 50

[@WebWeev]

Perfect timing

[@anggerhijr9589]

it seems like borsken mark the r card and then invite all her friends to join morena

[@SilkBuckets]

the cliffhangerrrrrrrrrrrrrr togashi whyyyyyy

[@lukeattheocean]

is there any chance that borksen has kurta blood in them?

[@senpaiyoh]

This chapter was so good

[@darkmatter9643]

Tbh this result was the only way the game could’ve ended. If borksen pulled the no card, she would have died and all this exposition and internal monologue would have been pointless. If she pulled the x card the same principle applies (guarding any nen ability that allows her to regain her memories). Hence the yes card was the only correct choice, especially with the knowledge that borksen was constantly trying to find out details about morena’s group, which would have been pointless if she had ever intended to take the x card in the first place.

[@AntiSVH]

My weekly novel is here

[@Musashi-if3tl]

Where is the chapter? Tcb not there

[@daunderrated3106]

I call it that she would say yes

[@WINDOWS94198]

I though the succession war will be over and the deal card still playing lol

[@relentlesscreations]

HxH is next level.

[@alexanderirizarry7722]

Welp. Called that one lol

[@mewaelgoitom4832]

Where are you reading this so early?

[@jackyha9445]

That kiss was too good, the only answer was yes after that kiss

[@Junirules360]

That blank face stare was just her recovering from the great experience

[@Nothing-ox5ke]

I'm just gonna drop in to say this AI "enhanced" Morena look horrendous, I feel like it's better to use the panel instead...

[@sapomen1352]

Wait when is The ai "enhanced" pic? Srry

[@Nothing-ox5ke]

@@sapomen1352 I meant the one in the thumbnail, the lighting makes it look all wrong

[@sapomen1352]

​@@Nothing-ox5ke OHHH thank youuu

[@chargemannyn2918]

it might just be digitally colored

[@kingh204]

Man I knew borksen would choose the yes card. I hope chapter 410 cuts to someone else though.

[@Gokuvsnaruto22]

Wtf?? crazy plot twist

[@GregoireSeaman-h3u]

Next chapter i bet Phinx and Feitan will enter the hideout

[@jajankenanims5409]

This ship will top off meruem x komugi trust🙏

[@Benj3n]

Bonolenov better pick a better disguise

[@degozaru1235]

what if morena falls in love with vorgsen 😱

[@frankalves9955]

What if vorgsen then falls in love with hisoka but chrollo is already his bf 😱💦

[@TheLastCrow5150]

Hisoka will release bungee cum; I mean; gum on anybody. Imagine Morena turns out to be a he... and Togashi just yanked our balls, again

[@jsull81]

Why did she ask if there was only one enhancer & then nothing else about it? That was weird

[@ayo123]

It's implied she asked lots of questions that we did not hear ourselves

[@jsull81]

@ayo123 Okay ya, the first translation I had was pretty sh¡ty, but I just reread it with a better one and ya, I think you're right

[@mono6158]

SAY GEX

[@Infinite8blue]

Do you have kids, I can hear a child talking in the background. I didn't know you are a father

[@Bandit.Chrollo]

So that good is Morena's lips huh? Borksen you either weirdo or just playing the long game. Anyway, can't wait for 410. I need to see who started the chaos.

[@thehellionrevisited2704]

Kiss me Done.... Deeply Yes yes

[@playermaxx1]

You know whats the worst of it all? That there is just one more chapter left and we end up with more questions.

[@chargemannyn2918]

one more chapter before the hiatus…

[@BrownOrion-z1f]

Togashi: ok whats just as tense but lacks choreography something good for the ol back and engaging for the reader.... me: A card game are you sereous when has that ever- ORENA TURN DURAAa MONSTA CADo!! Omg BORKsEN!!! BORKSEN!!!!!!

[@daunderrated3106]

Can you make a complete version of the negotiation with no interrupt

[@execraebrown3990]

although a lot of informations given i still feel a lil bit waste just coz i thought it could've done 2 chapters only but yeah it is what it is😮‍💨

[@LathropLdST]

Another one who wants fights on this shonen turned seinen? Asking because I have zero respect for those "fans"... We have fewer and fewer authors still active who actually write good plot, because of the "I wAnT a FiGhT eVeRy ChApTeR" toddler mentality... 😒

[@cjvillacorte2705]

she chose yes cus even if she's off the hook morena would still kill her i think

[@MYB2424]

Is it only me, i don't care mush about the current events

[@Blumoon_vii]

They wasting time with these side stories

[@pree5888]

morena is the main antagonist of this arc lmao

[@Dmun119]

No comments, fell off

[@Dmun119]

Love your content manganamist

[@sapomen1352]

The Duality of Man:

[@MrMathsimon]

That was a fun chapter.