New Advance Wars Player DOMINATES Everyone!

[@Mangs1337]

I was made aware that Elagatua himself already covered this game on his own channel, here's a plug! kzbin.info/www/bejne/n17Lo6t4pMenaqM

[@Blizz3112]

Its fine to see different perspectives from people, Mangs ;-)

[@turbo8628]

Classy move to include the link 👌

[@Elagatua]

ty for the plug! in my video, i cover this game in... excruciating detail and answer a lot of things that mangs mentioned, such as: - was the recon hit before the com tower capture a mistake? - grumbling about terrible luck rolls at 19:40 and 25:42 - did i expect the artillery positioning at 23:32? - much, much more so yeah if you want to get really really deep into the strategy at the risk of being bored, give it a watch, and thanks again to mangs for covering one of my games

[@Elagatua]

PS you should never, ever, copy anything i do in a live game because i do live games exclusively for memeing

[@turbo8628]

For anyone wondering, i just watched the other video and despite it being commentary about the same match, the content is very different. Definitely worth a watch 👍

[@IntrepidMercenary]

That 1hp tank be like "I'll block the enemy, you guys remember my sacrifice!"

[@iwantanswers]

WITNESS ME

[@derkatwork33]

@@iwantanswers 🤣

[@IDESTROYER236]

"I didn't hear no damn bell!"

[@billytringuyen1]

his comrades proud of him

[@KnownAsKenji]

That was my strategy as the Sunderer bus in Planetside 2, constant distraction to the enemy, cheap unit, and in my case if I'm not answered every time I can Deploy and infantry flood.

[@Zev95]

Okay but could he defeat THE LEGENDARY Chad, GrimGuy?

[@Eldorriots]

You mean the Legion of TheGrimGuy?

[@malik740]

Now that you mention it... what if he is Grimguy? Im not good enough to analyze their playstyles but it would explain how he manages to be so good with Grim if he is able to climb to the top as a 'newcomer'

[@jblockminermc5401]

@@malik740it was confirmed that grim guy is an alt account from an already existing comp player (he’s just not telling whom he is for the mystery).

[@beforelifewaschaos]

​@@jblockminermc5401Who confirmed that? 😄

[@jblockminermc5401]

@@beforelifewaschaos ….Grim guy did. Mangs has already said this in a previous vid, idk how you missed it.

[@wpt729fx]

9:15: if you watch Elagatua's commentary, you will actually see that attacking before capturing the comm tower was deliberate. Reason was to have the option of finishing off the infantry with the infantry that a as capturing the comm tower. The recon's vision of the tank changed this idea.

[@HanakkoLove]

What I'm more interested in is seeing how long can they last at the top! Cuz whenever we see a new number 1, it always shakes up the top players to compete and fight harder, that's when it gets interesting

[@zekenotech]

In the lore, Jake and Jess are best friends since they are both tankers. They have special victory dialogue when they Dual Strike together cementing this. I mention this because its funny how often they fight eachother in Comp.

[@Havlark]

something that really interests me in AWBW as a starcraft player is that macro is capped by base count. in most RTS games you're able to adjust your macro by just building more production buildings, so throwing away units means something entirely different. where as in awbw youre hard set on your bases, so throwing away a unit or base skipping essentially reduces your macro

[@Darkness5423]

Also for most it's easier to tell what is going on at all times, Starcraft high APM matches and an outsider isn't sure what their looking at besides constant multiple screen jumps.

[@thebrazillianguytm2186]

This match was fun, the Comm Tower tatics was definetly good and well employed by Elagatua, can't wait to see more of this guy on the channel

[@Gatitasecsii]

Amazing game! Spoilers ahead: Still cheering for StarFlash, but Elagatua is definitely an incredible player. I also loved that the aggression only stopped at the very end when he secured the comm tower, because of how this map is set up, you don't usually need to pull back because reinforcements are equally far from either side. Also that weak tank block was supreme, especially with how Starflash fumbled it. I think I would've definitely pulled one unit back to deal with it. Another great thing about Elagatua is how he never, ever stopped threatening captures, and it paid off. Like I've been saying over and over, sacrificing a mid-to-late game infantry on a risky capture is never a bad thing; killing an infantry costs at least 2 attacks, sometimes 3! That's three unit turns that your opponent wasted, and on top of that, like we see in this game, those pesky bottom units kept pulling down some of StarFlash's army, therefore making his attacks much less threatening. All in all amazing plays!

[@growen6474]

9:12 Mangs Comtower moment indeed.

[@EZDre11]

Elagatua putting on an absolute Clinic against starflash250 of all people. Very well played, i can see why he's been on such a meteoric rise.

[@ryandugan9176]

Really cool that he sets tempo the way he does. His composition was just one step ahead the entire game.

[@professorlemon4386]

Love the random Daganronpa music for this video

[@kennethpcc]

just a lurker watching. Thanks for the commentary was fun to learn

[@gideon2295]

I learn so much from those commentary matches. Its insane. Doesnt change that i am a very bad player bcuz i have a lack on patience.

[@LeviAuren]

Mangs, I largely play advance wars with only two of my friends, and we find an unfortunate drought in 3-player maps and for me, a drought in the dynamics of a 3-player match. I would be super interested in some niche 3-player content. Maybe a tournament, mapping contest, strategy and theory videos for things like a free for all mixed base map, or how to build maps that don't incentivize turtling in these unique formats. I would love if you could direct me to such content or include this as an option in community polls or future content of yours.

[@raulalonso2422]

I dont play 3-player maps. But a important element of maps with more of two player is the social one. Since is possible that two player team together mid mach agains the player that is winning. Personally i enjoy the diplomatic aspect a lot. But balance the Maps become tricky, especially for some COs. That say i think that the first turn advantage become lets important the more players you add since their own actions and feeling of danger agains other player become more important.

[@mimizdani8194]

Ngl, I love when you say get shalacked. I have no idea what is the translation but I know it means getting shalacked xD 😂

[@NeatChill]

on the surface, I think I understood why elagatua won, 3 or 4 three reasons: 1. Starflash didnt build many AA and also i'm not sure I agree with most of his power activations, a lot of mid turn means he didn't get the most out of them vs Ela 2. Ela was always threatening capture, vs starflash's pushes seemed to mostly be in counter to Elas, he'd get a lot of value but he didn't threaten many cities. Ela was constantly capping and putting pressure on the comm towers 3. chip value lead through really ingenious play, such as the tank blocking and repositioning. Gives small value but added up over the course of the game makes a big difference. 4. The perfect tech up to have 2-3 turns of uncontested neo was pretty great as a finishing blow.

[@jaredcody6869]

Was a nice game to watch and so far one of the only ones I have watched at all. Thanks for sharing Mangs.

[@LeonWarczak]

According to Deejus, the correct pronunciation of the skilled newcomer's name facing Starflash250 is Oogoogala.

[@derkatwork33]

Based on the current trend of video releases this year, we can extrapolate and assume we’ll get 182 Mangs videos this year. Things are looking up.

[@monsterchief117]

Many already pointed it out, but yeah, he attacked before capping the com tower to gauge what units were coming first. It is worth pointing out that this version of the map has the com towers neutral and not pre captured. The older version with the precapped towers left a lot of room for too much cheese in the early game, this version of the map is much better for actual tactics like what was shown well in this match.

[@manghariz2211]

I was surprised one day, When I casually just want to see how big SF rating is, and then I saw 1738 The highest MMR ever. It is surprising ngl. Props to Elagatua

[@lpsp442]

Love the nordic pronunciation throughout this excellent replay - eLAgaTUa has that classic Wally Walrus ring to it. As an Englishman my assumption for his name is "elaGAtua" (plus the tu pronounced as chu) but it seems that everyone has their own idea of how to say it.

[@Rocky712_]

I remember his/her name from other matches you or Deejus covered (can't remember) so I am bit surprised you didn't know him/her.

[@ascrein5247]

Ah, I was wondering about whether you will cast one of this guys games one day. Its a great way to start 2024 for awbw. Elagatua seems to be an exclusive fog player like Nightmare of Heiankyou. At least for global league for now. Also lol Starflash, he was soon taken down after a week or two. He is still in top 5 in all three modes though. I wonder if he will be able to get his place back.

[@officedullard8722]

Some more AW content, yes! Always love to see it.

[@Dru_Stephan]

Always painful to resign with a healthy Neo on the field.

[@WiiTara]

Not wanting to crap on Elagatuas play, but Mangs you mentioned several times in the beginning that it was very weird that StarFlash hasnt build Anti-Air on the northern front. Do you feel like StarFlash also played this match rather "badly" or is this just what you might think when you have no fog vision etc?

[@matex2207]

starflash just played the game very bad.

[@Elagatua]

i don't think starflash was playing bad, i think he was gambling because he was trying to establish a board advantage by overwhelming me with tanks. starflash and i had played a game immediately before this game where i delayed getting air for a pretty long time in favor of spamming more tanks, so perhaps he thought i would do the same thing this game.

[@WiiTara]

@@Elagatua thank you for the insight and congrats to your win again :)

[@Bobby-ls4sk]

I think elagatua wanted to be able to kill the infantery and park his tank on the city at 9:30, but changes his plans cause it may be his only chance to take the comtower

[@MrunHide]

Why is top the weak side for red? I would have said it's the opposite. Red has a factory and an airport on top as well as more space to maneuver because he is not funneled into a chocke by that pipe and he has a road leading to the middle. I suppose his factory is slightly further in the back compared to the top right side factory.

[@Jello_Criminal]

Two factories are always on the "strong" side. As good as airfields are they can't produce units that capture bases. Also your main force will always be mass land units. Until your economy booms you won't even produce air units and even toward the end you might see air units not being produced every turn depending on if they bought a neotank that turn or not 24:10 Meanwhile you will see factories produce units every turn with the rare exception in the start of the match if someone overspends for a big unit but that's rare. it didn't happen this match

[@mourka01]

Always a great day when advanced wars gets uploaded

[@lero4827]

Wow! Amazing we already have a new Nr.1 and it's new face. I didn't expect that will be getting a new Nr.1 so fast.

[@JoseMoreno-gu2bf]

😮 The Danganronpa music!!!

[@TKHedgeHog]

Wow Mangs i love your hoodie

[@pierrec1704]

15:01 Why did he attack with a tank on road instead of attacking from the comm tower ? He get 0% defense from the road he could have use the extra 30% from the comm tower wright ?

[@Elagatua]

worried about potential artillery sneaking in to cover that tank, while i know there can't be an artillery covering the other tank because the inf was capping the city

[@pierrec1704]

Ty for your answer, and great game btw.

[@AColdOneYT]

He maybe able to beat the top ranked on the ladder. But how will he measure up to Grimm Guy's Haymaker?

[@VeyVox]

Nice, Danganronpa soundtrack in the back!~

[@reubenbailey7491]

Oooo, Dagonronpa music!

[@alias9932]

I'm sorry to disapoint you mangs but you might be wrong here, maybe he initialy wanted to kill the infantry and put his infantry on the city to prevent a counter attack from and eventual tank, so he attacked first with recon, saw that he didn't need to bother because he could have first strike with his own tank, then decided to complete the com tower capture instead of securing the city. Or maybe he just misplayed, we'll never know.

[@izanagi3521]

I am in agreement, it did look like he was planning to skip the com tower and kill the infantry and realize it wasnt needed.

[@johnm9263]

I played against him just last week

[@EclipseInfection]

Hi Mangs ! What is the music you used at the start of the video ?

[@hadoukenfighter]

oh hey DR music, neat

[@MrSuperpoder]

That Danganronpa music smacks.

[@Mattcbliliuos1]

19:55 how did he know to block thr antiair? He didnt have the knowledge, just. Astrong guess right?

[@Alexand3ry]

First, Starflash *needed* anti-air to respond to those copters, so it was coming. But secondly, it works to delay *whatever* Starflash was sending that way. It blocks the base build from reaching the front regardless.

[@Mattcbliliuos1]

@@Alexand3ry figured thanks

[@FloraJoannaK]

Elagatua sounds more Latin. Great match!

[@yourtime]

oh wow, fellow hero academy player, could be legit. you should check some older hero academy vids, it is of course no AW, but it was quite nice too.

[@pawnquacker]

GGWP! Congrats to Elagatua.

[@magicalcapi9148]

*elagatua, the ultimate advance, remember that name...*

[@napalmcannon2513]

A new challenger arrives!

[@randomperson9732]

Nice music choice

[@andrewmalm5845]

Maybe elagatua is voice of Akasha...

[@andrewmalm5845]

Or GrimmGuy

[@HippieInHeart]

Very nice to see such an even match, it was very unclear who would win until, like, day 19 or something. Kept things exciting.

[@ajabacan1886]

he bodge the name. elagatua is capturing the city not the other way around. it happens on all of us though.

[@arc-sd8sk]

a challenger approaches

[@IDESTROYER236]

Attacking before capping the comm tower? Must be Dangs at work.

[@KongGig]

Popcorn time

[@josephgarcia8209]

Tell us how you climbed to 1184 MMR, Mangs! We want to hear the good (and the bad)

[@Mangs1337]

I just used move planner lmao.

[@Hiya_Papaya]

That danganronpa music was unexpected xD

[@mrlucasftw42]

Whatever happened to Dangs!?

[@Fernybun]

Deejus put poison on his Pepsi *FIRE EMBLEM TRUST NO ONE*

[@RanieriBucket]

Anyone know the name of the song playing in the intro?

[@Mangs1337]

It's from Danganrompa. OST linked in the video description.

[@oof5992]

Danganronpa music based

[@whisper6534]

Up!

[@Christian-wr4ge]

What is this being played on?

[@Jello_Criminal]

KZbin

[@lordhawkeye]

Elagatua is Grimm Guy's try hard account.

[@dangfxn771]

I hear Danganronpa music, I click like button

[@damie9412]

Nice

[@PICADALOL]

Amazing...

[@chefgrigs]

He’s secretly Feddy wap Yaaaaa Baby 1738

[@nomen6426]

I hope Incugarch becomes #1 Again

[@lamarlatimore7802]

1738….🎶Yeah baby🎶

[@Scrap_and_build_ourselves]

E L G A T O

[@privategallade9120]

🥚

[@anthoneeBM.]

Egg

[@RealJB003]

Egg

[@clydefrosch]

the newer the advance wars player, the more likely its just an ai

[@lelieutenant7386]

it's like this meme: when people call you a bot in a fps vs in chess. I don't think a bot could beat the best players, it's a lot harder to code than chess.

[@RedRenegadeBlast]

With advance wars it's incredibly difficult to make an Ai at THIS level.

[@DarkOrderSolDjango]

Don't be ridiculous Mangs isn't an AI, he is an egg.

[@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja]

Can't be an AI with live matches and fog. At least yet. Though, if it has a full team of experienced chess codes behind it, unlike my AI, I guess it's possible. In standard though, even my one man made AI can beat me, if I use CO powers and it does not. If only I wasn't so depressed, I might be able to progess with it.

[@art-games6230]

If someone makes an AI capable of doing this, that’s honestly even more impressive then this

[@Goldmask-lm2sy]

maybe the guy uses AI for assistance hahaha

[@korhol2065]

This is probably the case of someone who’s really really good, but prefers the casual setting vs the competitive setting

[@gooseiscool93]

Bruh

[@duross101]

This game is hard