Nikon Z6II vs Canon R5 vs Sony A7III Autofocus Comparison- This is what I learned!

[@MannyOrtiz]

1. Always use protection: wwww.privateinternetaccess.com/MannyOrtiz 2. PLEASE READ..I was supposed to use the A7SIII for this test since it has the latest AF tech from Sony but forgot the Full HDMI cord I needed at home so I used the A7III instead (It's still great) I know...... ITS NOT A FAIR COMPARISON as many of you will remind me and completely ignore this but I'm not trying to figure out which is best because then we will be splitting hairs. I wanted to see if the Nikon Z6II has improved and IMHO, it did when using Auto Area/ wide area AF Now when it comes to subject tracking, this is when Sony will pull ahead from the pack. Real time tracking is unbelievable. Maybe in another video

[@yaasirqani4153]

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[@yaasirqani4153]

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[@uglypuppies82]

Hey Manny, I saw a great video from the Monochrome Memoirs channel where they tweak some custom settings to improve the AF performance in the z6. You should try those, and also optimize settings in the other cameras and repeat the test. Here's the custom settings for the z6ii: Change setting "a3" to "1". Change setting "g4" to "+5" and for "When to apply" choose "Always". Change setting "g5" to "High". Use AF-C.

[@championthewonderhorse9733]

One thing not mentioned. The Nikon allows you to switch between right and left eye with a click,. But the Sony and Canon don't. That is a huge advantage. Get the wrong eye with a Sony or Canon and you need to recompose.

[@mcunner]

Thank you for these unbiased real world actual use-case tests

[@motograter7]

Just ordered my z6ii yesterday and excited to see it work so well compared to it’s predecessor. Great informational video once again.

[@nasrraif3957]

Congrats!

[@matic2601]

Are you satisfied?

[@l.c.ahir.]

Whice best for weding z6 ii vs z 7 ii

[@matic2601]

@@l.c.ahir. z6ii, the higher megapixels of the z7ii are not necessary for wedding shootings. Plus the z6ii has the higher burst rate (pictures per second). I would pick the z6ii

[@l.c.ahir.]

@@matic2601 thnks for information

[@theraven871]

Its about time someone made this video. I can't believe it took this long. Thanks!

[@ShotByGreenLightTV]

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[@IanHobday]

About time someone compared last generation Sony tech with recently released Canon and Nikon bodies?

[@subhankarbarai4824]

I replaced two of my D750s with two z6ii. After shooting 4 portrait sessions and 3 weddings in less than a month of getting the camera, I did notice the same issue of no eye/face detection when the subject is small in the frame. I had to resort to subject tracking. There's one more small issue that I noticed is that sometimes I cannot move the focus to another person's face in a group shot even though the person's face is visible alongside the other person's face. But this again can be solved with shifting to subject tracking immediately. Other than these two (which can be fixed in future firmware updates) I'm absolutely in love with the z6 ii. Autofocus is great. No issues shooting fast paced events like weddings, even with non-native lenses.

[@xophaser]

I just touch AF the rear lcd screen if this happens or use the new 3d tracking on the old z6

[@subhankarbarai4824]

@@xophaser I understand that is an option but that doesn't work for me during a fast paced wedding event. I cannot take my eyes off the viewfinder but as I said, I can always use subject tracking.

[@TaipeiGeek]

Do you use Wide area Eye detect AF mode with that box?

[@subhankarbarai4824]

@@TaipeiGeek Yes you can. However I found toggling between subject tracking and normal eye/face detect as a faster and convenient option for me

[@FR4NCI3C0]

Do you have Instagram? I do wedding photography and would like to ask you somethings about your camera.

[@jcleiker]

Is there any debate that manny has become the best still photography KZbinr over the past year? His videos are so well done, I watch when I’m not particularly interested in the subject. The other big camera channels just keep getting stranger. Keep it up Manny. Appreciate you. Peace and love

[@mwaithephoto]

Finally a unbiased test. Just showing how things works. I appreciate this so much. I’ll be actually be switching to Nikon soon I love that body so much for me.

[@DJKeo]

acknowledging there is a simple work around or that a camera has a different work flow is a major point reviews always seem to miss with these tests

[@RejeRush]

I just switched from Canon and not looking back! Love the files that come out of Nikon.

[@championthewonderhorse9733]

Great ergonomics, great buttons, great IBIS, great menus, great grip and now 2 card slots, better AF, eye-AF that allows you to switch between right and left eye, and proper grip, and great IQ and colour SOOC, for a price less than Sony or Canon. What's not to like?

[@cooloox]

@@RejeRush which Canon did you switch from, out of curiosity?

[@RejeRush]

@@cooloox The EOS R. I've used the R6 as well but wasn't too impressed by the files in comparison to Nikon.

[@riotrob]

Don’t all of these cameras have a focus “stickiness” setting. Wouldn’t that change the various outcomes?

[@davidschloss2656]

Yes. Also the Sony isn't in Real Time Tracking-that's the mode designed to stick to eyes even if objects are in front of the subject. (Disclaimer, I work with Sony's media team.)

[@bechinook5834]

Just for the clarification, it would be good to mention how the AF responsiveness was set up on each camera. I have Focus tracking on my Nikon z6ii set up to Fast and it reacquires focus from a blocked shot super fast.

[@AlanHoey86]

Yeah, I believe this is the case with all. I can tweak the sensitivity settings of my z6II, such as time delay in refocusing on objects that obstruct the subject.

[@uglypuppies82]

I saw a video from Monochrome Memoirs which showed how to tweak the settings in the (original) z6, and the Eye-AF was significantly improved. I think Manny should try those settings.

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[@markshirley01]

Manny the big plus that the Nikon has is the video/photo switch - it makes it the fastest camera for hybrid work. It's essential to me. When Ive tried to use Sony and Canon cameras they can't do this as fast. I wish someone would do this test to show how good Nikons are at doing this.

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[@bromfed]

ever heard of Taylor Jackson?

[@baronsilverton6504]

Taylor Jackson (a very successful wedding photographer and major KZbinr) discusses this fact a lot. It is the reason that he is using the Z6 II over the Canon R6.

[@markshirley01]

@@LUITESLIFE not like on s Nikon its more action - and not everything is saved.

[@exploringtogether7907]

Finally someone who mention this!!

[@acna2555]

Finally an honest and unbiased AF test. Thank you for that .

[@nagual2335]

Awesome, let's not forget that Z6ii and Z7ii have more powerful processors, which means Nikon can release firmware updates in the next year and very likely to reach Sony/Canon level without the need to upgrade the body. Nikon will surprise us all in the end, I'm confident about it

[@aneesahmed4564]

Yes 🙌🏻 I absolutely agree with this. Eos r5 Is too costly and it cannot be compared with Nikon z6 ii . But I’m pretty much sure that Nikon will give it back to all canon and Sony users , thank you. Happy Christmas 🎄☺️🙌🏻

[@not_so_roguetrader]

@@aneesahmed4564 I believe the image quality and the files from Nikon body are much better than Canon... Canon seems so unsaturated and boring... I'm talking specifically about the R series not DSLRs... Canon DSLR colours are better...

[@eM4rio]

how is the situation after the year? :D not as expected, huh? ;))))

[@nagual2335]

@@eM4rio I own Z6ii happy with the AF, it does the job pretty well. Not Sony level but very close. Nikon still got time to release better firmware update

[@eM4rio]

@@nagual2335 yeah, they will release Z6III with the same AF level as A7iii was as new update :D . Right now, Z6II is comparable with a7ii I guess. So not so great. I love Nikon's as they are tough and great build bodies. But beside AF problems, lenses options are very limited with them. You can get cheaper + better lenses for Sony instead for Nikon.

[@edeninco]

Actually, in this price bracket Nikon z6II really good job... Only need upcoming firmware in body 4k 60f, 10bit 4.2.2 and more accurate & first AF.

[@professionalpotato4764]

Is internal 10 bit 422 a confirmed coming update?

[@bif0978]

@@professionalpotato4764 Incorrect, Its 10bit 4.2.2 upto 30p via HDMI and upto 12bit If you have the paid pro res raw / black magic upgrade. The update coming est Feb, allows 60p internally @ 8bit in DX Crop (1.5x Focal). However I tested out the 8bit on the z6ii and I can confirm that its absolutely stunning anyways.

[@edeninco]

@@professionalpotato4764 they ware not officially declare what updated coming in next firmware.... Except for 4k 60p..as we was not expect after releasing Nikon Z6 II Firmware Update Version 1.01 Released . But we expect because of dual processor may be they add this..

[@professionalpotato4764]

@@bif0978 I see. Thanks for clarifying. I really hope they can release full readout pro-res raw and internal 10 bit in a firmware update. Having to pay an additional $900 just for 10 bit is a huge dealbreaker for me. And the line-skipped pro-res makes it as future-proof when I scale up.

[@bif0978]

@@professionalpotato4764 From my understanding. 10 bit output to an external recorder is natively supported

[@baronsilverton6504]

HI Manny - it would be interesting to see how soon the Nikon could acquire the subject in your last test if you used the new Wide Area Large Eye detect AF mode instead of full auto - I bet it would detect her really far away if you put her in that big box - maybe even farther away than Sony and Canon - it would be worth knowing this because this mode is likely what most wedding photographers would use for a walking down the aisle shot -as opposed to using the full auto area, so as to insure that the camera isn't distracted by near to subject bystanders - and to be sure there is acquisition from farther away up the aisle. Again, I'd love to see how far away the Nikon would acquire the subject in this mode. Either way, it seems that Nikon has arrived - there is no doubt that it is now 90-95% as good as Sony and Canon - but still superior in build quality and the RAW files are second to none - with its amazing mount and the glass that's to come there is a bright future for Nikon. Thanks for your honest and enlightening videos!

[@tubularificationed]

I'm afraid that Nikon Z might well become the new Pentax of the mirrorless age, because Z is a lonesome-island monopoly system with no 3rd party support, but instead it has a too limited choice of too monopoly-priced (overpriced) lenses. Z's market share (which is still not departing) will not attract any 3rd party AF lens support (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina) in any foreseeable future. So I think that Nikon will continue to lose market share, and in e.g. 10 years the Z market share might have declined towards the levels where Pentax is currently in the DSLR world. I'm so pessimistic about Z for the longer term, that at the moment I don't intend to upgrade from my Nikon D7200 to Z. Instead, I'm awaiting what 2021 will bring (e.g. an A7 IV update, and then re-assess the options again).

[@Stefan1968ful]

@@tubularificationed Ah, that is ok. Nikon will be a good attachment to DJI, Fuji or Sony. Nikon owns a lot of patens which can be exploited.

[@arunashamal]

​@@tubularificationed lol..dude... people to this day make professional videos with 50 year old Nikkor glass. Pro photographers use old Nikkors all the time. Nikkor is the second most popular lens system after Leica M..Do you think anyone running out to buy a Tamron or a Sigma that is more than 20 years old? If anything, 3rd parties want Nikon more than Nikon want them.

[@livejames9374]

@@tubularificationed rumor has it tamron will make z Mount lenses. nikonrumors.com/2020/06/15/rumors-tamron-to-make-mirrorless-lenses-for-nikon-z-mount.aspx/

[@subhankarbarai4824]

@@tubularificationed I have the Tamron 24-70 2.8, Tamron70-200 2.8, Tamron 35 1.8 and Tamron 85 1.8, Sigma 12-24 2.8. I shot 4 portrait sessions and 3 weddings in less than a month after getting the camera in hand and faced no issues in autofocus. To substantiate my statement, our website is www.subhankarbarai.com What more 3rd party support can I ask?

[@lukaspictures]

I am glad that you have mentioned old fashioned ways of focusing. It seems that most of the people are planning to use just everything on auto. Focus tracking with lock on Fn1 button is like 3d tracking with Nikon dslr cameras and who weren't using af-c 3d tracking with dslrs??

[@atxrich]

I just picked up a Z5. Glad to see this comparison. I'm confident future firmware updates will improve Auto AF.

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[@RiposteThis]

The Z5 already has really good subject tracking and face tracking. Firmware updates will make it even better BUT it's still quite good. You can watch a lot of videos in decent situations compared to the A7iii and it performs just as good. On top of that, the Z5 has amazing IBIS and none of the Sony FF cameras have working ibis.

[@atxrich]

@@RiposteThis completely agree, but it can always be improved, right? Fuji just pushed a firmware that gets the AF speed of the X-T3 up to the level of the X-T4.

[@BoostLeekdMedia]

5:51 , 100,000% agreed. There's soo many benefits for having a solid autofocusing system. These 3 cameras are definitely top-tier, especially for someone that is JUST getting into photography too. Excellent video Manny, really enjoyed the comparisons! I still love my Z6 :D

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[@phoniexace]

Is funny how the Sony a7iii is the oldest of all of them and it holds its own against this newer cameras! Wow

[@nongio]

@@mainmain5303 Yes and it's 2 years younger... so... what the generation number means...

[@nongio]

@@mainmain5303 Well... i think all the systems are more or less on the same plane... in this video the Nikon wins the first test,m but the Sony for example win the second and third (the model who walk in front of the camera)... so for me is a "tie"... what i mean in the previus comment is that the number of the generation doesn't count because now all have the same technology avaiable

[@RiposteThis]

@@mainmain5303 It's not even all auto focus, it's literally just the face / eye AF from a distance, lol. The A7iii doesn't even have working IBIS, and has the worst ergos. The Canon is impressive but also costs 2x as much as the Z6ii

[@maryline1306]

But these weird Sony colors and this too much digital style will never change. That's why I switched my A7 ii to a Z6 and I couldn't be happier. With the firmware 3.0 the AF has much improved, and this video shows Nikon will soon reach the top, with firmwares.

[@ExploreCreateCapture]

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[@nagual2335]

Manny’s channel is a treasure

[@boat_life]

I am a Z6 owner and I am very happy to see some great quality from the Z6 II

[@nathanjimenez1562]

Z6 ii has gotten even better with updates it would be interesting to see how they stack up now

[@Jeppyboi83]

Absolute legend. Its good you point out the strengths and weakness of the camera without trashing it. That's how a review should be.

[@adamwhalley3287]

Would love to see this test now with the new Z6ii firmware. From my very-unscientific tests at home, I think it'll now find face/eyes at a very similar distance to the R5 in this video. Also, I think it's really important to see even though 1 company is ahead of another, these cameras and AF systems are still fantastic, and they've come very far in the last few years!

[@OkwyUgonweze]

At this stage it's safe to say that autofocus gap is closed among the big three. The nikon only lag at this time is when the subject is relatively small in the frame, and that can be easily fixed with firmware. Time for attention to shift to ergonomics, lens quality and durability.

[@RejeRush]

Agreed! Since when is how good a camera soley dependent on auto focus? The z6ii has so much more to offer!

[@RiceCubeTech]

The siii is leaps and bounds ahead of the a7iii, it’s only a matter of time before the iv gets the same one and widens the gap again. The siii is incredibly tenacious and honestly is way more accurate than the nikon or canon. The siii doesn’t get tricked by the lamp post the same way the a7iii does.

[@nubscrub]

"easily fixed" how do you know it's easy, are you part of their development team? 😛

[@CGYPP]

@@RiceCubeTech except that Many says the very opposite in this review

[@championthewonderhorse9733]

One BIG advantage Nikon has is the ability to switch focus between the eyes with a click. It's fantastic. I had a Sony and it often went to the wrong eye and to get it off the eye I had to turn away and recompose. With the Nikon, if the AF has gone to the wrong eye, I can click it across in a split second. The Sony A9s do that, and cost more than 2x more. I don't think the Canon does it. It's a big benefit.

[@thelifeofryan8683]

This is the most comprehensive test of these cameras that I have seen yet. Great job!

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[@lilnape2604]

Thank you for pointing out the workaround for when Z6ii locks on to unwanted object. It’s so simple to go into subject tracking but reviewers rarely mention it. 👍

[@stanspb763]

It is not a workaround, it is expected the photographer to choose the desired subject. Not using the settings, just pointing the camera in the general direction it INTENTIONALLY selects the nearest subject which is appropriate for a camera to assume the nearest subject. That is a feature people like in the D850, the best pro DSLR made. Those of us who read the manual do not have problems with missed focus. Nikon assumes the photographer knows which subject he wants and allows him to select it but even if AF picks the subject and it is not the one desired, it is very easy to switch to the subject to the right or left instantly. Notice how when the Sony locked on the wrong subject it was hard to override the camera's choice. For groups or weddings, the Nikon is better reflecting how they are actually used. When the Sony selects the wrong subject you have to pull the camera off the scene entirely to let is try again until it guesses correctly. The Nikom switching between subjects with the joystick button or the multifunction button, one press of the multifunction switch in the direction of the desired target results in the focus point instantly capturing the next face in the direction you pushed the button or joystick. Works great and is perfect where subjects are close together but on different focal planes, like a group shot of a wedding party. Remember also, focus and the focus indicator is not the same. Several KZbin channels have pointed that out, Sony has a fast colored box but it does not indicate whether focus has been attained and more than one reviewer discovered that more shots were in focus on the original Z6 than a73 in burst or rapidly moving erratic subject. That is also related to focus peaking, the Z6/7 are joys to manual focus for fine are or old MF lenses because it is so accurate but Sony users seldom use focus peaking because actual focus and focus indication are not that close to each other.

[@lilnape2604]

@@stanspb763 if it’s expected for the photographer to pick the subject then why does auto area af exist? It’s expected upon the photographer in other modes but I don’t understand how you can say that when the whole point of auto area af is the camera deciding the subject especially when it has face and eye detection.

[@DynamteKid316]

@@stanspb763 well said and spot on! Nikon 850 is still my dream camera. Nikon user here thank you!

[@DynamteKid316]

@@stanspb763 you earned a sub. thank you!

[@frankline.gonzalez-dwindt2355]

Thank you Manny for sharing this. When the Z6 was launched there were many many "reviewers" hitting Nikon for the failure on the AF eye detection (with good reasons). It is a surprise for me that, now that the Z6II is out for more than a month, only few have made real AF comparison and most of the reviewers stayed silent.

[@RejeRush]

Great video! Would love for you to compare the the clarity/sharpness, dynamic range and colors of the Nikon, Sony and Canon. Cameras are more than just the auto focus. Rarely do people actually talk about how amazing the files are that come out of the Nikon.

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[@maryline1306]

Nikon and Canon are ahead : colors are more natural, contrast and rendering are more film-like whereas Sony is more digital. Canon sensors dynamic is average...

[@jonathanroman8285]

Thanks for the feedback Manny! Definitely gives a better perspective on this new nikon!

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[@oscarthis]

This has to be the best z6 ii video! Killed it bro!

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[@GaryJahman]

Basically you cannot go wrong with either of these camera's. It's crazy how far Sony is though. It's a camera from 2018 🤯 Thanks Manny for the effort!

[@markbrejcha3179]

If you're already invested in a system, then auto focus like this isn't a deal breaker regardless of brand. But if you're coming into a system from nothing, then there's no reason not to get the best bang for your buck

[@senalirving]

This video along with Matt irwin's view is what we need more of. Very unbiased fair. I want to get the Z62 so bad, but chose to order a 50 1.2s instead. I will focus on getting glass first for my original z6 :)

[@ghas4151]

I added a Z6 II to my Z6, and while I see a noticeable improvement in AF and general responsiveness, the Z6 is still an amazing camera. That 50mm f1.2 on the other hand is going to be epic. You’ve done the right thing.

[@senalirving]

@@ghas4151 heck yeah man. I love how the af is. I'm just so happy seeing good news with nikon. I want all cameras to succeed. Not leica. They suck hahahha

[@artmaltman]

Great news! Nikon has my favorite ergonomics. Looks like the eye face AF will fulfill my needs now just fine.

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[@moealyasini2784]

Till you go home and half of your photos (moving subject) is slightly out of focus ! That’s what made me sell my Z6/7 I see some improvements finding the subject but how quick is it to follow a walking person God knows but i dont trust Nikon anymore. Truth said: their files are amazin

[@MohamedMagdy-rc2sz]

@@moealyasini2784 "half of your photos (moving subject) is slightly out of focus!" Then you are a bad photographer!! Shame on you not the camera!

[@moealyasini2784]

@@MohamedMagdy-rc2sz lol yeah? Then why are all my photos are in focus now with my Canon R5 ? Lol you’re stupid

[@MohamedMagdy-rc2sz]

​@@moealyasini2784 The stupid thing is when a photographer like you relay 100% on the camera to get the photos in focus! ... sorry you are just a camera user not a true photographer. You know!! The best photographers in the history didn't have all these technologies in the past but they created art that will last forever!

[@jtes1442]

Can't wait to get my Z6II. The Canon and Sony's are great cameras, but I love Nikon's raw files and its ergonomics. Decent test, but it seems all everyone focuses on (pardon the pun ) is eye AF.

[@Tornado.EOS.Software]

There's a neat utility called Tornado NKN for Nikon cameras. I've heard good things about it, it's easy to use.

[@MrClarkeGaber]

That eye af is insane on Canon. It hunts that eye like a bloodhound.

[@baronsilverton6504]

True that - it is impressive! Seems like Nikon is right there though, and I doubt it will be long before they are all literally on par with each other, which means its time to start looking at other criteria - like build quality and the quality of the RAW files. That said, all the cameras today are awesome. If you can't get the shot with any of them, then you aren't a photographer.

[@R2X2Z]

@@baronsilverton6504 I have the Z6 and R6. R6 files are good and AF is just fast! But I'm finding Z6 RAW files (not even the Z6ii) better. Just more flexibility and dynamic range IMO.

[@Mr09260]

@@baronsilverton6504 The Nikon Z Mount is the Opposition Killer though ..

[@baronsilverton6504]

@@R2X2Z Its pretty well known that Nikon RAW files are among the best in the business. Canon has always lacked for dynamic range - the DR is better on the R5 and R6 than past Canon cameras but not yet up to Nikon's level - so yes your experience is more confirmation of this fact. I also find the build quality superior on Nikon to both Sony and Canon - this has yet to change either.

[@baronsilverton6504]

@@Mr09260 Agreed - going forward Nikon should be able to develop the best lenses. They should be able to maintain best edge to edge sharpness due to the closest flange distance of 16mm and any other lens can be adapted to Nikon but not the other way around. Sony E mount is already adapted to the Z system and apparently the adaptor works very well. It will not be long before Canon RF lenses can be adapted as well - but Z glass can never be adapted to the RF system. Nikon definitely has the long term edge - assuming that they survive the next 12-24 months - but I believe that they will. I think they can afford to lose money for a few years - this was built into their model moving forward. They are taking the steps in layoffs etc that they need to take to get past this time period and back on top :)

[@Mr09260]

Nikon will always catch up and end at the Top ..ALWAYS

[@nubscrub]

You're a hardcore fan

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

ASML laughs in EUV

[@cooloox]

Well it wasn't on top in this video, so I beg to disagree 😂.

[@khamid1]

A7IV dropping next year, time for Nikon to "catch up" again.

[@dadanardi5541]

bruh a7iii doesn't have the latest focusing tech

[@legend240891]

For Sony a7 III, you can set the AF Tracksense to Responsive so it won't stick as much and will acquire focus on the new object.

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[@opalyankaBG]

These AF test always baffle me a bit. I've had a few cameras over the years, they've never been state-of-the-art regarding AF performance but I've never used such a large AF area when shooting portraits. I would only use that when tracking objects that cover a large part of the frame. For portraits however, I'd use a single point - it's always worked for me. I simply don't want a computer to decide for me what my object is in the frame.

[@MannyOrtiz]

Whatever works for you 👍

[@TaipeiGeek]

@@MannyOrtiz I wish you used Wide area Eye detect AF mode with that box. Since Nikon has that and others not, it would be good to show the advantage of Z6 II. People will buy the camera just because of that feature.

[@jae52247]

But, that is the point of Eye-AF or Face AF. The camera finds the eyes or face of a subject in the frame for you. I used to use a small AF area or single AF point with less advanced cameras AKA DSLRs and old mirrorless cameras to focus when photographing portraits. Your camera can still miss focus or focus on something else if the subject continuously moves, if the AF area is still too big, or if the focus is just off. But, with these cameras, you don’t have to worry about those things. They will lock onto an eye. Yes, they will occasionally miss focus, but you don’t have to move your AF box around or do focus and recompose.

[@benjamingless7120]

For 40% of the price of the Canon you get 90 % of the performance. Seems like a good deal to me.

[@TheRichard2025]

Explain please!

[@benjamingless7120]

@@TheRichard2025 z6ii : 2000€, eos r5: 4385€. And the Speed of the z6ii is only a little bit slower.

[@cooloox]

@@benjamingless7120 Dishonest comparison. These cameras are chalk and cheese. Try birds in flight or high speed sports. Look at the megapixel count. You'd need to compare the Z6ii to the R6 or Z7ii to the R5 to keep it real.

[@alivia4907]

Or you could just go with the r6 and get basically everything except the megapixels in the r5

[@MWRredundant]

The $2500 r6 has the exact same af performance as the r5

[@smashexentertainment676]

So which one should I pick if the bushes are my main subject?

[@lymancopps5957]

Its possible those cameras would be diverted by passers by. The Nikon Z II cameras have a context box to tell the camera where you expect your subject, and the camera will limit its search to where you tell it.

[@RichardJPhotog]

Great comparison brother..Having an R5, An A7r3, and an XT3, Ive got to say...we learn muscle memory what each body is capable of. I think all 3 compared here are exceptional. Weve gotten spoiled. Every so often, I grab my old Pentax K1000, I bought in 79. It really makes you grateful of all the current camera tech. If you own any of these bodies and cant make a great capture, its you, not the camera body. Give Di and the fam my love...since day 1 brother.

If you have those cameras, can you compare how fast AF of A7r3 vs Canon R5? Is A7r3 still good at the moment?

[@TheGoldenPlanet2099]

Honesty made manny have more followers even that his main gear is Sony but he is really an honest photographer and we can trust him unlike some other misleading embassadors of some brands who cheat consumers with thier fake opinions to get some more money from some brands. I always trust Manny and Toney. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@rjacob06]

Now you have definitely given me a reason to upgrade from my Z6. Thank you.

[@ShotByGreenLightTV]

A7iii 📸🔥kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn-zoJiLhZqFl6s

[@chriswalker6233]

How much you want for it

[@rjacob06]

@@chriswalker6233 I am not selling it yet.

[@ericthestone]

Now we need an APSC version of this: A6600 vs XT4 vs Z50 vs M5

[@Whatreally123]

You mean the Z50

[@will2chill357]

Now, with this improved autofocus, Nikon rules! Great grip, EVF, autofocus, buffer, image quality. Boom!

[@Makta972]

Nikon rules ?! It's a dead company. They are next on the list.

[@will2chill357]

@@Makta972 on your list?? :D if so, i am not afraid :)

[@profoto3135]

Nice video! Did You use Nikkor 50mm 1,8 S?

[@AnthonyFerrell]

So glad someone finally made this comparison!! Definitely still love my A7iii but this was awesome!

[@charliipresley]

Anyone know how the z6 is after the latest firmware?? I hear it’s pretty solid for the price in 2021

[@bernardlanguillier7970]

It's also possible to use the area Face AF on the Z6II when the subject is farther away.

[@butinsho]

Yes you can although if the subject is already far or small in the frame the wide area eye detect will be just like using single point AF. It won’t even find the eye. On my a7iii it will detect the eye at a farther distance whether you use zone or wide area AF.

[@livejames9374]

@@butinsho at further distance depth of field is over a foot and it doesn’t matter if it’s face or eye because all will be in focus.

[@ddunnum]

Nice balanced review free from brand shaming. Much appreciated. It was interesting to see how well all three of these cameras performed. Thank you Manny

[@matsudakodo]

I will respectfully reach the opposite conclusion as Manny on the last test. It seems the Nikon is the only one trying to figure out what the subject is. You wouldn't put a giant blurry bush prominently in the foreground of a portrait so I can't fault the Nikon for focusing on it instead of a distant person. Remember, this is Auto-Area AF mode. Imagine doing street photography and getting annoyed at the Sony and Canon if they focused on the person and that is not what you wanted it to do. We bash on cameras that don't focus well on the closest subject so we're asking to have it both ways here. The camera doesn't know the intent of the photographer so with any of these very good cameras, it's up to us to take the photo. I think they are all good but the fact that the Nikon is offering such a camera at prices that undercut the others is impressive.

[@matsudakodo]

@@n0f4ke74 I'm a Z 6II user and you're right, one of the wide area modes would have been better in that scene. I was just commenting on the results of the Auto-Area AF mode.

[@MohamedMagdy-rc2sz]

​@@n0f4ke74 You are right. i'm happy with my New Nikon Z5 and i don't like using Eye Af even if i have the best Sony camera! because i like to move my focus point to the place i want in the frame and i will not relay on Eye Af and hope my subject eye be in focus. if you need the MAX. benefits, then use your original skills and let the EVF help you to do that, but not to let the camera do everything. (The pilot switch off the Autopilot during landing and takeoff) Thanks!

[@butinsho]

I’m getting the same results with my z6 ii. Compared to my a7iii the subject/face has to be nearer in order for the focus overlay to find it. This is using the 24-70 with the FTZ adapter and auto area eye detect. I thought it’s because I’m not using a native lens but it looks like Manny is with his test and has the same result. If you zoom in though it will find the eye/face. If you switch to wide area eye detect it’s the same, the subject has to be near or else it will not find the eye. My workaround is just use single point in this situation. Now if you compare the colors between the z6ii and the a7iii? That’s a different story although as they say it’s subjective.

[@michaelf7742]

Great video. Thank you so much. I am wondering why there is still no comparision of the Nikon Z 24-70 2.8 with the Sony GM 24-70 2.8 and the Canon RF 24-70 2.8. Everyone says lenses are most important but nobody makes a comparision or have I missed it 🤔

[@cooloox]

Terrific video, Manny. Great to see how good the AF is on all these current cameras. Thanks for the effort you put into making this video.

[@visionz_n_media]

You should have tried nikon's wide area eye/face af in the distance test to see how well it would focus in that scenario. Seeing that it is a feature Nikon purposely put in the new systems its only fair to use it and see if it gives it an edge over the competition.

[@sjm.photos]

great test , what im surprised about is how massive the nikons focus points are. compared to the canon and sony. having used sony for 14 years when we first got eye af 5 or 6 years ago before anyone else it was a game changer. and now the improvements is incredible it means you can do things we couldnt before high speed shots wide open and still get tack sharp eyes its so so good and it doesnt matter what you decide to use they are all great.

[@LarryL619]

Hey Manny. I would love to see you revisit the Z6 mk1 with the new 3.4 firmware. I weigh my purchases on your reviews and would love to see if the original Z6 would make a nice budget kit with the update AF algorithm.

[@ybasurf]

This video is so informative and actually shows what we go through in the real world. Great job Manny. Thank you!

[@sivalike6519]

Which one is best sony 90mm 2.8 or Sony 85mm 1.8

[@shubhamsamdani802]

Which is better for wedding photography

[@denisrobinson8504]

Why didn t you press the Ok button and bring up the tracker square, in the Nikon? Didn t you see the prompt on the screen? It sychs to faces white well, but you do have to activate it!

[@MissionNova]

You mentioned the X100V as your walk around camera. I switched from Fuji to Sony and I have to admit this is the only part of the equation I couldn't in Sony land. Amazing camera. Love mine.

[@RiposteThis]

It really looks like the Z6ii is doing really good. I'm excited to get mine, especially for that price.

[@suhail451]

Would be good to see a comparison with the z6 ii's new 1.1 firmware update

[@777hdn]

I hoped I would find a test showing me which of the big three has got the best AF so far. But this review couldn't tell me as the settings used on the cameras we're never really mentioned. Obvious face detection was on and auto field selection too. That's what makes things quite easy for the photographer but also difficult to helpless by nature if no face is getting detected. Not using full auto field selection isn't "old fashioned", it's what most pros would use. As this is leaving the first part nearly useless besides the Nikon being quite snappy in grabbing the face again, the second part showed that the Nikon needs bigger faces to detect them. Which is the one most accurate, the fastest, the most versatile? I still don't know.

[@rishabdam4228]

For wedding and portrait Should i go for d850 or should I invest in z6ii

[@mcm111able]

1:30 on the sony you can put eye af on a seperate button .. it wont focus on anything else than an eye/face ... you just didnt used the camera right ;)

[@subhajitdas6058]

For both photography and cinematography please suggest A7 iii 85 1.8 sigma 35 1.4 sigma Ad200 V1 Gimble Ronin sc 2 Z6 ii 85 1.8 s 35 1.8 s V1 Gimble Ronin sc 2 Ad 200

[@PixcelcraftPhotography]

I am using Nikon D800E since 2014 n looking for upgrading now. So should I go for Z6 ii as I m also into shooting interior videos or Z7 ii should be a better choice.

[@jamesspicewilliams8835]

The tip you gave at around 5:30 was tremendous. Seems as though Nikon heard you with the new firmware update. I look forward to your review on it. Keep up the good work. I love how you've stayed humble.

[@luisneumannp2748]

great. now the Lumix S5 please? :)

[@rbnarby1381]

There is a fundamental difference between each brand in setting the autofocus and I will always choose the Canon brand, even though that bond has been ingrained in my mind since I was a teenager.

[@brandonfreeman5614]

Idk if I missed it but what lens were you using? Does that matter for these test?

[@patrikmedia]

Does the a7S III have a superior AF compared to the a7 III? If so, noticeable?

[@vadimverenitsyn]

Hi Manny! What lens did you use on Canon? I tried the RF 35 and 85 (both macro is stm) lenses on the R5 yesterday and they were very very very slow! They couldn't keep up with the movement of the model, only 24-70 and 50 1.2 could keep up with the movements. Have you ever had this?

[@livejames9374]

I’ve seen a few reviews where the R6/R5 85 f2 combo can’t keep focus with moving subjects.

[@vadimverenitsyn]

@@livejames9374 This was terrible news for me, I had to cancel the pre-order and take time to think about the situation. Perfect lenses for me "on paper" and terrible in reality. They just don't have time to do anything in video mode! ((((

[@livejames9374]

@@vadimverenitsyn maybe there will be a firmware update.

[@vadimverenitsyn]

@@livejames9374 last chance, yep! (((

[@juanvaca-ramirez4858]

Should I buy the Nikon z6ii or the a7iii? What’s your opinion?

[@Avinash-wg7xl]

z6ii.. once you use nikon z mount you will never eye another system

[@ghas4151]

The Z system is just fantastic as a whole. Great reliability, ergonomics and arguably the best image quality. And now they have pretty much caught up in AF. The A7 III is an old camera now with pretty poor EVF and rear LCD in comparison to the Z6.

[@305kubrick]

Did you optimize the custom AF settings in the Nikon for this test? You can further adjust the AF speed in the menus.

[@andrewrasmussen532]

Do you think they'll keep updating the z6 and bring it closer to this?

[@baronsilverton6504]

It would be great if you redid this testing with Nikon's newer firmware which was released since you did this video - as of today it is version 1.2 for Z6/7II

[@baronsilverton6504]

For example - the Z6II struggling in the video around 3:45 with distance to the subject - this has been specifically addressed with the new firmware - it would be great to see how it did now in comparison.

[@rodneyturnerphoto]

Would like to see how Wide Area AF (L) in the Z6ii works on a shoot. Good video.

[@MannyOrtiz]

I already have one. It works great

[@natedagreat90]

I think reviewers should revisit the nikon z6 ii with firmware 1.6 it has gotten much better since launch especially the eye af. At 3:25 the z6ii can definitely pick up the eye and face much sooner than in this video

[@jimsaibits]

Thanks its hard to find autofocus review of z6ii with latest firmware. I am in between z6ii and Sony a7c2. Mainly looking to shoot kids playing, portraits and low light, so continuous face and eye autofocus performance is required. Do you think z6ii will be good enough for it? a7c2 is only about $200 more with similar lens configuration.

[@angelarius]

@@jimsaibits just curious what did you end up choosing and did it met your expectations?

[@Realletsplaygrey]

Nikons coming through, they're gonna push ahead soon just every one wait.

[@philipgowdy]

One of the most relevent videos of today. Great stuff Manny.

[@PunjabiGymBeats]

Always came back to Nikon they produce amazing files and make best bodies i got used D700 and Man that is real hot DSLR to hold on and it 13 years old and still produce sharp images.

[@carlosread5887]

Autofocus speed and accuracy, depends a lot on the lenses used. I don't remember hearing you say anything about focal length or aperture of the lenses used in this test. Correct me if I am wrong

[@MannyOrtiz]

The aperture can be seen in the video. I linked the lenses in description but I used all native 35mm 1.8 lenses on the bodies

[@james1939-s1c]

I was shocked how much better the z6 II was than my z6. I also found the same things you pointed out, but also EYE AF is more accurate, I am not getting eye lash AF like the z6. Also in video, EYE AF works great, but the AF is improved, on the z6 when it loses the face it tends to hunt for a new subject, on the z6II when it loses the face or EYE it hangs out in that same focal plane till the subject is back.

[@nroose]

Isn't the A7r4 a better Sony to compare to the Canon R5?

[@Intothewild-Biswajit]

Which camera is best for wildlife photography 🤔?? Sony a7iii vs Nikon z6ii vs canon r6

[@jurgenvanhest9913]

Hey there Manny. Thanks for sharing.....but the Z6 with the latest update, that camera does it's trick or not?!

[@lifeoflilx7678]

What lense do you think is better for SHARP portraits full body and the face is still sharp

[@bpham2010]

An you tell us your settings on the canon r5. I would live to know your camera settings

[@stefpix]

Great test. I shoot sony apsc cameras, but I am also considering the Nikon Z5 with 24-200 mm lens as a travel/street camera. The Sony A7iii is pricier and the 24-105 is more expensive, and the 24-240 is huge and heavy. How do you like shooting with Nikon compared to Sony? And image quality? I usually use zone AF with face/eye detection. Sony’s face detection can be problematic when there are a few people in the frame. I need to switch to single point autofocus

[@Mowikan]

Great real world test. As a new portret shooter, this is how it works. The only thing I really mis on my fuji is limiting the focus. In the studio i want to set a maximum for focussing. So if i am between 3 and 5 meter from my model, that i can restrict the camera between these two values. This would speed up auto focus big time!

[@RyanLImagery]

how would this work with a new sony, not one that was made years ago?

[@FrankTaeger2021]

Interestingly, the New modes, where you have large AF fields wherein eye af runs... would have been very interesting to see in that "loses the person while moving away" test.

[@yiutongutrtam3233]

Can nikon z 6 2 keep the focal length at the model’s eye when the pole is moving into the central area of the frame? This may be useful at times

[@lildrummer08]

Another great clip. Thanks Manny. In your opinion though, upgrading from an older system like the original A7, is it worth saving a few dollars and getting the z6 II? or going ahead and getting the a7iii (especially understanding the discounts currently)?

[@MannyOrtiz]

There are so many factors that play into this decision. Right now, Sony has a huge advantage in lens options which is why I’m kept it as my main system

[@simon.revill]

On the Z6: if in Auto Area AF it focuses on a subject in a different focal plane than what you have in mind, all that is required, is a quick move of the focus ring to that focal plane, then upon reactivation of autofocus, it accurately acquires focus on your chosen focal plane.

[@ShotByGreenLightTV]

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[@beback27]

What about a7iv? Which one is the best AF? Pls help.