Differences Yamaha WR450F VS Fantic XEF450

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@pirata6556 2 жыл бұрын

I own a fantic xef 450 bought this year 2022 and I find it more interesting than the WR I had last year. Much more exciting for technical enduro.

@darksid356 Жыл бұрын

What makes it more interesting than the WR?

@mikeshakespeare7294 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the Fantic Rally bike. It will be interesting to hear your thoughts on it.

@Thejumelot Жыл бұрын

I have it, not so impressed. Good chassis. Engine a bit lazy in low revs. Lots of issues with the stuff Fantic added to the excellent Yam base. Love the chassis and suspensions though. Also, very noisy, impossible on the road.

@janhenrikrustad8888 4 ай бұрын

@@Thejumelot So you have the XEF450 Rally? Long story short, as there is realy "no options" I am considering this bike, as the only real choice for a lightweight enduro/adventure-bike that can both stand bad trails/roads and be a good friend for 200-350km long adventure days. Would you build your own with a KTM EXC base instead, if you could do it all over?

@Thejumelot 4 ай бұрын

@@janhenrikrustad8888 The base is excellent. I own this bike for over a year now and have done lots of mods. Basically, I find the additions to the WRF by Fantic to be under-engineered and making the great WRF unreliable. Once you solve those issues, you have a great rally bike with a superb chassis, a strong engine, big tanks and a beautiful Italian design. In short, I have managed to solve the reliability issues caused by the Italians on the rock solid WRF and enjoy their rally package. I must highlight mine was one of the first bikes so it probably had all the child diseases and the dealer network was totally clueless on how to solve them (had/managed to talk direct to the factory to get some satisfactory inputs after going through 3 "official" dealers and wasting months).

@bazza8947 2 жыл бұрын

You can buy the WR road legal from Yamaha here in Australia.

@ManuelLucchese1 2 жыл бұрын

unfortunately in Europe since 2019 they don't get homologated anymore "officially" but we found a way around it but it costs about 1.000 euro extra

@bazza8947 2 жыл бұрын

@@ManuelLucchese1 heard you mention that. Was just replying about Australia since you said you weren’t sure. I quite like the look of the Fantic!

@matjazogorevc9804 2 жыл бұрын

@@ManuelLucchese1 could you get more info on that topic. I am in slovenia and it is an interesting topic.

@OldschoolMechanic69 2 жыл бұрын

For sure i have fun watcing your video, i was planning to buy WR450 and im curious about homologation in Germany, as you said its arout 1000€, i would like to know what exactly i need to do. Thanks.

@matjazogorevc9804 2 жыл бұрын

That is my question also, author can answer on private.

@lolghost9042 Жыл бұрын

I know I’m late but, in Italy if you wanna buy a “illegal street bike “ such as the Wr, you can but it’s annoying cause you can’t ride in street so you have to go to this company called “ va racing “ if I’m not mistaken and they will watch if the bike has the requirements to stay on street like for example “ blinkers” and than they omologate it for you. The price rise if you don’t have the blinkers or mirrors and they had to add it for you. So if I were you I’d go on the Fantic cause is very similar to the Wr and legal in Europe. Hope I helped you and sorry for any English error.

@matjazogorevc9804 Жыл бұрын

@@lolghost9042 thanks for the answer. I think that blinkers, mirror etc. is not a problem. EURO4 is a problem. How do you homologate that? Best regards, Matjaž

@tomchan2901 2 жыл бұрын

Since the Yamaha ECU is smoother than the Fantic ECU, and since the Fantic is much more (my opinion) attractive than the Yamaha, is it possible to purchase a Yamaha Factory ECU, and install it into the Fantic?

@ManuelLucchese1 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it is not possible as Fantic has a completely different wiring harness and so you are unable to plug in the Yamaha ECU, I wish too it was compatible

@jovannino99 2 жыл бұрын

Hello , is it , more or less, the same for WR250F model ? If you will use it also on single track extreme paths what do you suggest ? 4 strokes has always a ON OFF feeling and in technical and difficult situation it's a bit tricky. I ride usally with all other guys that use 300cc 2 Strokes and the difference is relevant.

@nickovdub6131 2 жыл бұрын

Where can I buy fantic plastics in the US?

@shmuel202 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, great video❤

@schrunken 2 ай бұрын

The “Italian” way 😂 for homologation process, that’s hilarious, does that include some bribing?

@jayfrancis1429 Жыл бұрын

Ive got the fantic xe125 2022 model i love it, but honestly cant wait to upgrade for the xe 300 that should be coming out this year hopefully !!!

@lotharkolberg2933 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, great comparison

@KOLFINNAx86 8 ай бұрын

Do fantic and yamaha share the same fuel tank?

@gabrielkopp2036 2 жыл бұрын

What is the price of the fantic? Are they available in the US

@6Twisted 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Fantic 250 and the seat is awful. I have to take a break every 20 mins.

@ManuelLucchese1 2 жыл бұрын

From Rebel X you can get the rally seat cover which is way more comfortable. Just select the one for the Yamaha WR as it’s the same seat

@nrc658 2 жыл бұрын

Yamaha WR450F THE BEST

@robsonenduro3316 Жыл бұрын

How hard is get wr450F homologated? you need to get blinkers, plate holder etc I guess...but wr is probably euro4 not euro5 rated, Or maybe I can order from you rally version already homologated :)

@Canoneosmiami Жыл бұрын

What are the chances the frantic it’s gonna be sold in usa ?

@briangc1972 Жыл бұрын

Slim to none. I googled the importer. He has a website with a couple used dirt bikes for sale. He is just some yoyo who has no money to import anything. These manufacturers should require the importer to buy 10 or 15 motorcycles immediately to establish the business. Some yahoo just sitting on the import contract does no one any good.

@ferusct 2 жыл бұрын

Ciao Manuel, ottima descrizione dei due modelli. Ho in mente di sostituire il mio WR My 2014 e penso che prenderò sempre una Yamaha. Io organizzo da molti anni viaggi turistici nel deserto in Tunisia e penso che per questo lavoro il WR sia più adatto. Saluti

@godhandCoL 2 жыл бұрын

quando saranno disponibili in italia?

@fredriklinnell9088 3 ай бұрын

Is the 2024 fantic based on the 2022 WR?

@ManuelLucchese1 3 ай бұрын

@@fredriklinnell9088 yes

@fredriklinnell9088 3 ай бұрын

@@ManuelLucchese1 ok, thanks. Will the 2025 finally get the 2023 model?

@ManuelLucchese1 3 ай бұрын

@@fredriklinnell9088 no the 2026 model will get the 2024 WR

@fredriklinnell9088 3 ай бұрын

@@ManuelLucchese1 oh... they keep the Fantics boys way back in the rear view mirror...

@diogocouto1610 10 ай бұрын

Ciao Manuel, thanks a lot for the review! You made me buy a fantic! 😂 I had a ims oversize tank for a WR but I was not able to fit it on the fantic. Do you know if the subframe is different from the WR? Thanks

@ManuelLucchese1 10 ай бұрын

It’s impossible the tanks fit also on the Fantic, the only difference is the shroud that you may need to put the WR shroud also. Be sure you have the year correct as Fantic is identical as the WR 2019-2022 so only parts for these year models fit on the fantic

@diogocouto1610 10 ай бұрын

@@ManuelLucchese1thank you for confirming it! Maybe I cannot fit it because of the reiger rear shock that I have installed. It seems that the the shock might hit the fuel pump. I have put the wr plastics on it.

@6Twisted 2 жыл бұрын

I'm back after 5 months on my Fantic 250 looking for an upgrade (specifically better suspension) 😂 The XE 450 is such a good looking bike I'd never want to take it offroad and ruin it.

@jetdr 2 жыл бұрын

Biggest difference for me, availability! Can't find a Fantic within 500 Miles of where I live. As far as Grips, I change all mine to ODI Lock on as soon as I bring the bike home.

@bobbysmoke6.4dzl94 2 жыл бұрын

I like the Fantiha…can I get it in the US?

@D3fender110 2 жыл бұрын

Ciao Manuel. I’m moving from the US to Italy and I’ve heard I cannot bring my WR250R. Do you have a recommendation for a good dual sport in Italy? Fantic…or something else? Grazie!

@michele1342000 2 жыл бұрын

Beta rr 480/500/430

@swissjanu3455 Жыл бұрын

@@michele1342000 nah man fantic is way better

@noelapat4320 2 жыл бұрын

My dream bike

@mxriderdakar 2 жыл бұрын

If i am not wrong, there are no Fantic in the USA. That was a Yamaha condition to Fantic.

@briangc1972 Жыл бұрын

I googled the importer. He has a website with a couple used dirt bikes for sale. He is just some yoyo who has no money to import anything. These manufacturers should require the importer to buy 10 or 15 motorcycles immediately to establish the business. Some yahoo just sitting on the import contract does no one any good.