Ashley wagner wins!!! Oh my god the judges cant really appreciate the beauty and the artistry of mao asada.There is no comparison and everybody's here is aggre with me to say that the true winner is mao.
@大嶋洋子-t8w6 жыл бұрын
真央ちゃんのジャンプって、綺麗だ…。
@OlympicDream1913 жыл бұрын
B E A U T I F U L I LOVE THIS GIRL !!
@37gold13 жыл бұрын
I looove her new dress !!
@justicexxz13 жыл бұрын
berry beautiful skating !!!
@aiesecoxford13 жыл бұрын
@muscleboi4use Ashley's FS was clean but very very safe - no 3-3 combo or 2axel-3toe equivalent! Her huge FS mark is unbelievable and unjustifiable - it's the highest anyone has had all season, surely! And without a 3-3 or similar?? And who on earth would give her a higher PCS than Mao? Ridiculous.
@fredthompson473610 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, challenging and inspirational performance by Mao so soon after he mother passed away. May she rest in peace. The triple axel is beautifully and fully rotated without a doubt. But similar to Worlds 2010 and the Worlds 2014 LP and other competitions, suspect judges downgrade the jump to a double axel AND THEN give it a -1.29 GOE, which makes it worth only 4.71, instead of around 10 points, which is what it should have been: a difference of around 5 points. This results in the American Ashley Wagner winning in the United States by about 3.7 points. I am an American, but it think it's fixed. Looking at judges scores individually is useless if the decision is planned in advance from the top. The judges then must follow suit or lose their jobs. There are no questions to ask because this is what the ISU does when their own president Sleezy Speedy says it's more important to have an experienced judge who knows the scoring system (and the ways to manipulate it) than to worry about a conflict of interest. The judging is an unjustified joke. This doesn't even take into consideration what should be higher PCS for Mao.
@johnjackson37359 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful triple axel and heart felt performance with a horrible ur call that gave Ashley Wagner, an American, the victory in the United States. No offense to Ashley who is a good skater that has been kind and respectful to Mao, but Mao deserved to win and I am an American.The ISU had to give Mao a much lower PCS in the freeskate too to rig it right. But, In addition to the -1.3 GOE they also gave Mao a bogus ur call which dropped the base value of her beautiful triple axel and Ashley received full base value for her triple flip and triple toe. Mao's jump looked perfect even in slow motion replay and Ashley's was obviously a ur and her landing foot touched the ice in instant replay, yet Ashley received full base value and positive GOE. The calls were switched. They were skating in the United States and wanted an American to win, so they fixed the scores against Mao just as they did in her 2016 Worlds LP in the US. Not to mention the inflated PCS scores for Ashley and deflated scores for Mao. Ashely won mainly on PCS which was a shocking 4 points higher than Mao's in the FS, even though Mao has better skating skills with more speed, better edges. more shifting of weight between skates. more sophisticated choreography and artistic expression and better foot work. So just like the tech calls, the PCS scores were inverted. Mao should have won comfortably. The fact that ISU were cruel enough to arrange this fix only two months after Mao's mom passed away makes it even more disgusting and personal. This proves the ISU is against Mao. But like a true samurai she continues to wage an artistic and athletic fight. Mao will always be remembered for what she gave to the audience not what she was given by the judges. This performance and her Sochi LP, where I believe she was robbed of a World record score, are great examples of that legacy. That's why she puts so much spirit and commitment into her step sequences which are an absurd 4 points in the LP. She is a true legend and such a beautiful and brave woman inside and out! I will not watch figure skating any more ISU women's figure skating after Mao retires. The scores are rigged and the ISU is corrupt and even the JSF deflates Mao's scores.
@hmasaki52299 жыл бұрын
John Jackson You understand well. The score ISU takes out remains, and Mao has no interest. She worries about the one by which an audience is hot and reacts. "You can't overlook and I'd like also to make the acting which can't also take a breath moment adequacy." everything of her hope. ISU wants you not to bother her. Because no one can trust the value of ISU.
@sengimdann15087 жыл бұрын
ISU scoring right now is sucking.. Especially, btw technical score and component score... My question mark is why Russian skaters got so high components even their experience as a junior artistic and their jumps always wrong edge value and got GOE 14 plus ridiculous corrupted
@ericat3ew13 жыл бұрын
とても美しい。世界選手権が楽しみ。
@methusssela13 жыл бұрын
@aiesecoxford Agreed. I love Ashley Wagner, and she has improved a lot. But that program was very very conservative jump-wise. Still, because of execution this is a very close call. Anyway, Mao is a delight, she has a unique lightness to her skating, to the way she moves her arms that nobody comes close to.
@kourobou13 жыл бұрын
Judges killed figure-skating. They have to go hospital for checking their eyes and brain. What is too foot? It means Mao has too much footwork? That is right. Mao has goddess footwork. She is like flying above cloud.
@timdanv3v13 жыл бұрын
Mao's skating is so gorgeous! That opening 3A is beautiful and it looks clean to me. Why was it given a -3GOE when it's just under-rotated? I really don't get it. Judges seem to be so harsh on Mao (ALL THE TIME). Really, she deserves a better score.
@sumimimi013 жыл бұрын
i think she should have won..
@papayamango00713 жыл бұрын
Congrats, Mao!! Gorgeous and fabulous performance!! I haven't watched Wagner's video yet, so I don't know what happened, but I just hope she will concentrate for the world championships from now on!
@tubenisuta13 жыл бұрын
3A was so beautiful ! why 3A< ? why -1.29? I can't agree to the Judge
Back in those days.. you land that perfect 3A once and you win the comp. Now, you hit a perfect 3A and lose to a mediocre program. What a sport figure skating has become.
@早川優花-e4w9 жыл бұрын
美
@sk8ingcoach113 жыл бұрын
If judges are going to give minus GOE for Mao's 3A, then why didnt they give minus GOE on stupid ashley wagners 2 footed 3F+3T in SP
@sgeetha735012 жыл бұрын
mao shud hv won..
@Uriekul13 жыл бұрын
mao asada the best
@roycemints13 жыл бұрын
Let's just support her during Worlds!
@BowBowDaijin13 жыл бұрын
she was robbed. It's so strange that her PCS is less than Ashley Wagner.
ISU judges are strange. They ratified miki ando's clearly under rotated quad back when she was a junior but they judged this 3A as under rotated. Actually these so called pros are blah. Mao's 3A in 2007 worlds received GOEs from -3 to +3. This 3A doesn't look any less rotated than her ratified ones
@MNxPRESENTS13 жыл бұрын
um... mao's PCS J5 SS7.50 TR6.25 PE6.50 CH7.00 IN6.75 ..?_? who is J5? I want to know the judge is a nationality where.. and i want to ask the judge the reason why her PCS is low score in this FS..
@johnjackson37355 жыл бұрын
Simple the judge is corrupt just like the scores in this competition.
@tripleaxel3513 жыл бұрын
YES !!!!! 3A was clear
@lordkevinownz13 жыл бұрын
I don't get how Mao Asada gets -1.29 for her 2 footed triple axel and Ashley Wagner gets +0.20 for her two footed triple flip triple toe
@alightsincere13 жыл бұрын
Most of the judges can't fly Triple Axel. So they don't have a right to deduct points from her beautiful Triple Axel of this time. If she had failed or touched her hand onto the ice, I would understand the reason. But only several degrees less means nothing. Judges, you should be ahamed of yourselves!!!
the American had to win, is so anoying really, but the thing is that Mao doesnñt need to win to make everybody see she is the best, so enjoy judges, you don´t deceive anyone, is so obvious who is the best. Go Mao , when she will skate a clean program very soon, and that´s scary for the judges hihihi
@asavichable13 жыл бұрын
Seriously, what is wrong with the judges?? I thought the 3A looked great, but still, I was not really sure if its fully rotated or not, so I just checked it out in slo-mo. And God, that 3A was completely and utterly, the perfection. Who wouldn't have given a credit for that? Well, apparently ISU judges didn't. Now I started to believe that ISU must stand for Incredibly Sucky Union or smth. Yes I am being rude but they totally deserves any insults however harsh they may be. Shame on you judges!
@상천이-p7c6 жыл бұрын
Open your eyes.
@amrmsm333213 жыл бұрын
ルッツは手をついてしまいましたが、認定されてよかったですね^^
@JoeyCi13 жыл бұрын
@OKdesukedo I don't really think you know what you're talking about. Mao's 3A here gave her around -1.7 GOE - Ashley Wagners two-footed 3F-3T gave +0.8 GOE. So the judges are favoring Asada? What a bad joke. And for whomever said only japanese people like Asada - I'm german, and I love her (although I loved Ashley at 4CC too and am perfectly fine with her winning). And just to add, Plushenko always said Mao was his favorite... wow, didn't know he was japanese!
@sumimimi013 жыл бұрын
This does not have slow mo. So we cannot judge. I just checked out another video which as slow-mo. FULLY ROTATED. it was one of the best jumps. I mean, usually mao cheats a bit like quarter turn. but this time it was just perfect. AND SHE GOT DOWNGRADED. WOW THEY HAVE COCK EYES.
@johnjackson37355 жыл бұрын
No they are in America and the favored American skater is the apple of their biased eyes.
@Fo4ts13 жыл бұрын
3A< 6.00 -1.29 -1 -3 -1 -1 -2 -1 -2 -1 -1 4.71 Base Value (3A 8.5) Ashley WAGNER 192.41 points Mao ASADA 188.62 points 192.41 - 188.62 = 3.79 3A 8.5 - 3.79 = 4.71 By chance does not seem very !! Scores have been adjusted.Do you see a lack of rotation is the perfect triple axel this Mao? This sport is bogus.Mao Asada are suffering much from around 2008.At this rate they finished this sport.Do not use the illegal grading, do not If you do not stop the match-fixing.
@skatefan949513 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful. I think Mao will win Worlds this year. I think she should just work on hitting all of her jumps and forget about the 3A. It's the little mistakes that did her in here.
@kimhaejin112 жыл бұрын
Well, isn't that good? What if Mao landed a perfect axel but fell on the rest of her jumps? Do you think she should win?
@bourque80113 жыл бұрын
I'm not begrudging Wagner her win....I'm concerned about the Olympics In Sochi....If we have a similar controversy In 2 years....it will be horrible. For any Kim Yuna & Miki Ando fans out there, I could definitely see this scenario happening again In the Olympics....I hope I'm Wrong. In Closing, I'm happy for Mao skating a clean Triple Axel....she's going to need It for sure at World's this wear...and at Sochi Russia in the Olympics. I think Mao's going to skate better at World's & win It!!!!
@sumimimi013 жыл бұрын
i used to enjoy watching figure skating btw because of skaters like yuna kim and mao asada. now that judges are giving rubbish marks, i will say i will not watch figure skating anymore.
@佐伯道枝 Жыл бұрын
凄く綺麗ですね。素晴らしい。ずっと見ていたい。
@FelixDavidoff13 жыл бұрын
American judges can't really understand artistry...they always pay attention to the flag near the athlete's name! (see also skate america of this year)...
@vickyc9913 жыл бұрын
obviously, ashley wagner skated better technically than mao... but mao's presentation score should have been much higher, and that triple axel should not have been downgraded.
@Sheea_real113 жыл бұрын
@zngm2htkag the triple axel was NOT two footed watch again..i think her triple loop was tho
@cbd12345678913 жыл бұрын
I really wish she would turn her foot out more on her landings. Otherwise, outstanding!
@Riannee12 жыл бұрын
she needs a movie
@spikydurian12 жыл бұрын
Mao is a beautiful girl and skater. Please don't mar her skating but all these "LOL" comments. (shudder).
@troy051513 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is just me, but I find Tara's comments sooo annoying. Perhaps she is not very experience in this, but her comments are so redundant, and unnecessary.
@zngm2htkag13 жыл бұрын
3A looks two footed but fully rotated imo
@muscleboi4use13 жыл бұрын
@aiesecoxford I have to say I have re-watched Ashley Wagner's program and I think you may be right and I may be wrong! Always prepared to admit when I might be wrong!
@ayamasamtu13 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact is that 2 American skaters are always on the podium only when 4cc is held in USA. In another country,Mao could edge over Ashley because Mao's skating skill is superb while Ashley's is no good for a top skater. So this PCS is ridiculous. Maybe Mr Nick,who's her coach, work on it with her though. Anyway we can see how they have developed their programs since then in a week or so.
@teenzola12 жыл бұрын
Pardon me, who is Murakami? Mao is better known in the world of ice skating than this Murakami girl.
@muscleboi4use13 жыл бұрын
The 3A was down-graded, a hand down on the 3 ltz and a 2 sal and not 3 sal vs a totally clean program of Ashley Wagner. I don't think Mao was cheated out of the Gold here... although I prefer her as a skater to Ashley Wagner.
@spfs99 hey you are persistent. poor spfs99 must move to the video of your favorite Korea's Queen! get out. bye〜
@dongackjhc13 жыл бұрын
@pommexx Watch out her BIG HOOK ICE ROTATION before AIR ROTATION.Once upon a time ,She used this method to knockdown Irina Slutzkaya.Her nickname,MIRAKURU (miracle)MAO was coined because of that achievement. Contrast, Midori Ito uses clear and high AIR ROTATION in 3A jump.Mao Asada cooks up1) Ice Rotation first,2)Air Rotation next,3)Ice Rotation landing if needed in her 3A. Please Watch out many variety of 3A.
@dongackjhc13 жыл бұрын
@pommexx Beautiful 2A in place of 3A.
@GioMariatex9713 жыл бұрын
Mao's blade touched the ice after 3 revolutions so it was completely correct to < it: they could
@JoeyCi13 жыл бұрын
@OKdesukedo I'm sorry to say this, but I guess I don't get your english....? Who ruins Maos life? I don't think I am. And as far as I know, she said her goal was Sochi in 2014 so I'll support her - what's your problem? And Kanako is stunning on the ice - and doesn't get enough PCS-credit in my eyes, agreed. But what's so hard about supporting both of them? I really don't get what you're doing here...
@상천이-p7c6 жыл бұрын
.Mao destroyed 2014
@ochitwa112 жыл бұрын
NCfigureskaterluv, get a clue she won't medal because THE 2012 OLYMPICS IS THE SUMMER OLYMPICS! Figure skating is in the winter olympics.
@dongackjhc13 жыл бұрын
Mao was successful in 2A in place of 3A.
@bandersnatch654612 жыл бұрын
I'm sick and tired of your "what ifs" you kimchi. Mao was flawless at the 4CC here and she lost to a mediocre Ashley. Period.
@Beargeek61613 жыл бұрын
Ouch! Two-footed the triple axel! Poor Mao!!!! :(
@bourque80113 жыл бұрын
I just realized that NBC paid a lot of money for the Olympics....I don't want to see the Figure Skating Judged in this way, I want Mao to win the OGM of course, but a Yuna or an Ando, along with Mao, may lose the OGM because of stupid judging Like this. I hope the Judging gets better by the Olympics. Thank You.
@lucyluluzeng12 жыл бұрын
then you should perform a "different" spiral, spin, and a "fast" steps
@asdfhuliashduflasihf12 жыл бұрын
What was the jump at 1:15? Is it a flutz cos it switched from a back outside edge to a back inside edge?
@anne9127612 жыл бұрын
I love Mao Asada, but because of the Mao bashing by ignorant bigots, I haven't been here for awhile, but now,it seems that the judges are siding with Mao's bullies. What are they thinking? And why would Caroline Zhang be placed third when her skating has been kind of bleeding all over the rink?
@eyesproket13 жыл бұрын
HOw can I possibly enjoy this program if all I can hear is Tara's annoying, self-absorbingly teenage voice!!!? Ugh!
@kylemartin942213 жыл бұрын
Mao's component scores were a joke. The fact that Ashley's were higher is humiliating for the sport ... Mao's artistry is far advanced, and her choreography is miles better. Ashley's a strong skater with powerful elements, but her transitions are bad and her artistry is boring. I feel bad for Mao ... how is it that her Olympic program scored 7 points higher in the component scores than this mark? (though Joannie, Mao and Yuna were all way overscored at the Olympics, but that's a different topic)
@Griffon86813 жыл бұрын
After her performance, she said that her performance is 50/100 points. I think that's exactly right. I feel Ashley Wagner and Caroline Zhang are better than Mao today. I would like to see her perfect performance at the World Championships.
@sengimdann15087 жыл бұрын
Griffon868 USA cheater money talking rather than real talent.. 2016 world those judges were corrupted ... based on Russian skater and American skater with high components but fuck off performance and Mao Asada and Japanese skaters were super great of artistic and their jumps too .. I hate and America bullshit media
@stanley0523804 ай бұрын
This is why the sport is dying. Incompetent judging. The only majoy flaw in Mao's program is that she doubled that jump. Even with one or teo under rotated the entire program warrants much higher PCS. Are all the judges from America lol
@bourque80113 жыл бұрын
My concern here Is about the Judging....I was reading across the Internet that Mao's Triple Axel was downgraded....If true I think It's an embarrassment to the sport of figure skating. If figure skating Is going to be a respected sport....It shouldn't have these Judging controversies. In my opinion Wagner was given 1st place because she had a clean FS Mao had the 2 mistakes In her program(Hand touching ground & double Instead of triple salchow). I'm not begrudging Wagner her win....
@johnjackson37358 жыл бұрын
If you think that Mao's ur call was bogus as most posters do including me then out of mathematical necessity you have to give Mao the victory because if Mao had been given credit for the beautiful triple axel she would have had more points than Ashley. Mao also had a higher base tech score with more difficult jumps, spins, steps and even spirals and her artistic expression and skating skills are superior so her PCS scores were also deflated (and inverted) just as they were compared to Ashley at Worlds 2016. Therefore, Mao should have won this competition by even more points than simply adding back the difference for the bogus triple axel ur call. Mao was deflated as a two time world champion skating a beautiful. intricate performance with harder elements than Ashley, who skated an easy tech performance well, but Mao wasn't allowed to win because she was skating in the USA, Mao is unfavored often even in the JSF, and Ashley was American, favored and given preferential scoring. Come on it is obvious they rigged the triple axel ur because they gave such a beautiful jump -1.29 GOE AND A UR CALL when it is obviously rotated in slow motion replay. Do you also know about Worlds 2009 LP in Los Angeles when a cruel jerk sabotaged Mao's LP performance by yelling at the top of their lungs for Mao to fall as she entered her triple axel / double toe combo? It can clearly be heard but no announcer even mentions it and there is no recourse to justice. Have you heard about the tooth brush or razor that was on the ice when Mao did her freeskate at Worlds 2010? Or how about the rut or gash in the ice that Mao hit during her Vancouver LP? Or someone yelling during her triple / triple combo jump near the end of her Grand Prix Final freeskate in 2008? The list goes on beginning as early as 2007 Worlds which she should have won. I made my analysis of scores beneath Mao's freeskate video I also think Mao should have won the Grand Prix Final 2007. I am sure people disagree with me on some or all of what I say, but overall I think the evidence clearly shows that Mao was never favored by the ISU or even the JSF and she battled harsh scoring her entire career. announcers who often served as mouthpieces for manipulated scoring against her. and even hecklers who sabotaged her performances, and finally recently she has suffered from illness and injuries especially the one to her left knee. Even this seems partially due to the ISU's negligence to maintain good ice conditions because it started hurting Mao after a performance in which she landed a huge triple axel and fell on soft, slushy ice during a triple flip and loop in a very hot arena during her freeskate at the Cup of China 2015 The ice conditions were also poor when Mao skated her freeskate at the Trophy Eric Bompard 2016. Since she was injured, this may have been one reason she didn't try more triples with some puddles on the ice. This is the reason I will no longer watch new ISU figure skating after Mao retires and continue to comment on the obvious corruption. I think of it this way: the ISU has been called a highly political organization with a history of corruption as the 2002 Olympics showed and as bogus and double standard rulings for tech calls and inverted PCS scoring show all the time. Would I trust a newspaper or a politician that has a history of lying and corruption and discrimination against certain people or countries while trying to hide by stonewalling, blocking or "setting up" rigged investigations? No, I wouldn't This is similar to hiding behind anonymous scoring with a press and announcers that never question it. Here is a great quote talking about how hiding behind anonymity is fertile ground for corruption: When scrutiny is lacking, tyranny, corruption and man's baser qualities have a better chance of entering into the public business of any government. Jacob K. Javits Even though the ISU has allegedly returned to showing marks, it is still very difficult to find out the identity of the judges compared to 6.0 because I couldn't even tell when I went to the Finlandia Trophy in 2016. It still looked anonymous to me. Besides, after spending a long time fixing the scores the way they wanted culminating in a huge relative deflation of Mao in the 2016 Worlds LP which was again in the USA, the true scores were already highly manipulated so they had already paved the manipulated way to it.
@Taan12313 жыл бұрын
i love mao, very pretty skating, but her skating seems a little anemic, she is losing power and speed? nice 3axel however
@juccy7913 жыл бұрын
So slowly..--;;
@alisag88827 жыл бұрын
김슬기 salty yuna fan LOL Fuck yuna!!!
@상천이-p7c6 жыл бұрын
역시 호랑이 없는 굴에 여우도 안되는 마오 ㅉㅉㅉ
@macstjo12 жыл бұрын
flawless with a flutz flaw you stinky sashimi
@deejuhrah13 жыл бұрын
that 3A was CLEARLY two footed. what are these people talking about lol blinds?