Mains and Alts Tier List for Patch 11.1

[@MarcelianOnline]

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[@Xeanowos]

Havocs biggest problem to me is that after the burst is done, you basically just click chaos strike on repeat until the bursts are back...

[@Mezukage27]

Agreed. There's no synergy. No flow or combo point style like rogues and enhance shamans have.

[@thunder9236]

I mained it in dragonflight and Shadowlands, a bit now, and I completely agree. It can be fun but the sets MAKE it fun. Like when it reduced cool down on The Hunt and throw glaive popped like mad. Plus outside of CD windows it's just so weak. Amazing aoe, dogshit single target.

[@T_Birmingham]

Hopefully the 20sec eyebeam through cycle will make it feel better. I've played it a bit on the ptr and it does feel good. Will be interesting to see how build strength pans out. I'm hoping cycle is the play!

[@Juistja975]

The biggest issue is veng being top tier most likely. Havoc wont get a spot… like in DF

[@rick5787]

Yea, lots of classes are like that now. Stack the CDs and then do nothing.

[@EnigmaticRealist]

Love the energy you guys put into all your content! Keep up the great work!

[@JoshuaRAWRR]

Love your videos guys, I've been torn between Hunter and Paladin for 11.1, and I was hoping this video would help sway me to one, but it's just made me struggle to settle on a choice even more. :D

[@DJK827]

Go paly at least there you'll have fun doing any of the three say you need healer or tank you can be one but there way more utility and squishy and perform well in almost any situation. Huntard is a whole other thing don't want to be a part of that community not to mention it's bland and boring after a while just pet tanking then shooting that's it

[@mattmotyl2659]

I would choose Survival Hunter, if I could drop pet. I mean, I love gameplay, but I hate being dependent on pets.

[@somedude6618]

Putting Ad segment over at Warriors place describes Blizz mentality pretty well.

[@gustavasmus9582]

Great job once again guys!

[@MarcelianOnline]

Thank you, hope it helps

[@Hebi2Cold]

I main DH now and I plan to next patch. Super fun and don’t mind the CD down time after burst. Preference I suppose

[@ABirdDad]

ngl thought flame was marcelian this whole time. literally never seen the other guy before

[@rockrick9988]

In the past they always did vids together. These days marcelian is more editing and doing behind the scenes work if I understand it properly

[@DuckdaringZ]

Haha I used to think the same thing until I noticed that all the toons you see Flame plays have "flame" somewhere in the name. Then I started thinking, "This man probably isn't Marcelian."

[@MarcelianOnline]

:)))))))

[@old-school3805]

😂😂 must be new here

[@ston3dceasar599]

Used to dps only. Found a lovely guild, became main heal with evoker, then priest and now and for 11.1 pala heal, so we get advantage of different classes 🎉

[@DuckdaringZ]

You're gonna think I'm crazy, but I think this new guy is Marcelian.

[@Harggos]

What did you use to create your transition animations? Pretty cool

[@rick5787]

Hell yea, was waiting for this!

[@taylorwhite2751]

VDH is going to be the Meta tank unless they nerf them. As of right now it’s quite a bit better than any tank right now damage and tankiness is insane right now. I got mine max geared and ready to rock for season 2 can’t wait!

[@christopherneil8265]

I’ve surprisingly liked the farseer build for M+ for resto sham. The only thing is it feels like it’s missing 1 more cd. After losing AG, I thought that spiritwalker’s tidal totem would fill that hole, but they roled it into healing tide totem. HTT now feels like overkill to me. They also seem to keep trying to find niches for both healing surge and healing wave. I’m not sure that the current version of the game needs different mana efficiency single target heals. I’d probably drop healing surge, flash heal and flash of light from the game and tune the other spells.

[@Hagendazed]

Good stuff boyz as always

[@syxqid3818]

Looing forward to see what main and alt you chose 😊 for me is clear my main is monk mostly ww. And alts - hunter mostly sv, warrior as tank and for pvp & shaman my healing ❤ and enhance with still the wish to get back to 2hand windfury 😂

[@the_artisan3392]

San Layn is ahead even in this current season, but rider is still prefered. Even if it's a bit better Rider will still be the most preferred hero talent spec. There is no issue imo

[@parztv8190]

Right now I'm struggling to decide to stick with my S1 main which is Ret Paladin or swapping to Arcane Mage in S2

[@Sorae90]

Nicely done list boys. I will go for frost mage/monk this season. Been a DK main since MoP but I can't play this clunky ass class anymore. Every spec being reliant on DnD just kills it for me.

[@richard_n]

Personally I'm still loving Survival Hunter, so it will still be my main. Looking at MM as the ranged alt on it. I'm also looking hard at Monk for my second class since Brew is my favorite tank, WW is always fun, and I'm going to look into MW healing since Holy Pally is looking sus right now. My third class is probably going to be Shammy since it's been my main for most of my WoW career. Plus if I don't like MW healing and Holy Pally isn't up to par, I can Resto no problem.

[@Masmola1983]

BM is over MM and you put in alt...strange with 99% or rest of testers say that this season all people like BM in party

[@krasimirelenkov199]

Love those kinds of videos :P

[@DJK827]

What I love hearing is when they say they already did unholy changes, acting like as if it was a complete rework. But like you guys said it could be one of the fun specs where they change others then just the major CD thats pretty much all they did. Gave us abomination instead of army. They should do a more corpses thing like exploding ghouls for aoe etc thatd be so cool but sadly i know wont happen 😢

[@DankMantis]

evoker: nope, nope and nope hahaha that got me 😂

[@L0rks]

Thank you for the list :)

[@MarcelianOnline]

And thank you dear Lorks for being such a good sport for the longest time

[@L0rks]

@@MarcelianOnline

[@RandoCDN87]

17:05 I been playing Holy Paladin in preparation for season 2 for half a month, 629 ilvl, 2438 IO currently. It's not overtly complicated. Herald of the Sun is a nice balance between using your holy power spending for range healing with Eternal Flame (Word of Glory), and / or using Light of Dawn for more up close Melee healing situations. I haven't had much issue to be honest, the only issue I have is cleansing off certain dots I can't deal with, and the Mana use - I know though for s2 Holy shock mana refund is properly addressed.

[@michaelmoran2125]

I'm 624 and 2600 io on lightsmith with shitty wifi. It's not close bro you gotta try this.

[@Guilherme78M]

sad about warrios, its my go to class in any mmo, i hope they make a rework soon

[@diesel581]

I can't wait for the Warrior and Hunter so I can be doing the true man stuff....PvP.

[@chrisprice5181]

Vibe is the word of the day 😂😂😂

[@danescano7972]

still gonna main my havoc dh next patch:-) i was thinking rogue to cause i pve and pvp aswell. casual

[@윤호성-i1z]

can anyone tell me what toy or transmog using at around 5:15 hunters? its like banshee wing !

[@OneMeanFatKid]

It's not a toy or transmog, it's a visual associated with Dark Ranger heroic class.

[@misskill33]

its so hard for me to chose between Hunter or Rogue ... :( i love to play a range , cuz its feel more a relax of all cleaves of mobs and thinks like that , but rogue have that reward "feeling" after put all ur dotts quick and start to use ur envenom on caustic target to spreed aoe .. its a HARD CHOICE :((

[@eraycanakkaya7792]

m2 man, ele shaman or asas rogue which class i can play realy dont know 😁 İ wanna best do m+ and pvp which one you think

[@dekren5906]

@@eraycanakkaya7792 As an Assa main for 5 seasons, I must say I am tired of it’s maintenance and long opener + the chaos that is happening in melee. Ranged classes are playing such a different game in my opinion. As for PVP, both are good, rogue is rogue and ele can do some insanely fun oneshots.

[@julio4494]

Pres is so fun. Yall crazy 🤪

[@thunder9236]

Im dying for outlaw to be better. Trickster feels pretty bad to play and fatebound is strong but boring. My choices are holy paladin, fire mage (frost looks good too), and outlaw rogue.

[@Mysterious-Fox-01]

so if you wanna be save and invited in all party's go evoker

[@Sorter18]

Any chance for a turnaround for unholy ?

[@americanmambi]

1st up Warrior..... Naaaaaahhhh Meehhh 😂😂😂 Blizzard what have you done!!!

[@Ken.Onishi]

FERAL MAIN!!!! 🎉

[@petfish7385]

Watch MM won't be tuned correctly and you will back to BM cause it pumps.

[@DeusRegum]

CATCELIAN!!!!!

[@jademers88]

Man really unholy dk is still going to be rider in M+ probably San'Layn in raid. Nothing is changing really with Unholy at all lol.

[@graysaltine6035]

Why does Marcellian literally only play the bad Rogue specs. I knew he was gonna go off on gushing about the gay pirate spec as soon as Flame handed him the mic. I guess it's his way of telling me I won't be playing rogue next patch.

[@benjaminghazi787]

Interesting takes. On the subject of outlaw, very interesting. Spec feels horrible to me, having to play around vanish, BTE windows is disgusting. End of Shadowlands outlaw was MUCH better imo. As for devastation, yeah gotta play that shit with a deviate delight fish xmog on lol

[@nymphia21]

DF s3 was fun for outlaw, lots of rolls, lots of buffs, lots of BTEs with the CDR on vanish and the shadow dance very enjoyable now it feels a lot more clunky

[@andrewthomas817]

So where my main nightelf Mohawk

[@Peanutbuttacups]

Love me a Marcelian episode

[@MarcelianOnline]

Aw shucks, big luv homie

[@christossylaidis6704]

Flame is op

[@Uncle19]

I’d love to see blood dk become the fantasy of a life stealing demon. Make it so nearby enemies bleed life essence into you to heal you, mark or curse enemies to heal you as they damage, force their healing to also heal you, basically a life sucking bane of existence.

[@rainy3527]

I feel like that is more of a DH vibe

[@Uncle19]

@ maybe dh first double tank class ? Like priest double heals

[@christmasham4312]

BM main mage alt

[@YuriGualeri-t5q]

To be fair Rogue Hero talents are garbage and i Say this as assaination Rogue

[@DeusRegum]

FLAME CHICKEN!!!!!

[@kalamazoobassjunky]

idk why i keep watching these, knowing that this is all subject to change. keep em coming though! lol

[@88osi95]

So you would main almost every class? i dont get the video xD

[@headhuntersmodels6870]

a potato opinion

[@Haretic]

Always funny to me that Evoker gets the shaft not becuase of its playstyle, but bc people dont like how it looks. Makes these lists meaningless.

[@rileth52]

These are what they are playing and why. Has nothing to do with trying to convince you what to play lol

[@Haretic]

​@@rileth52Really bothered you I see. Lol. Did you read the description where they say "Looking for what to main in WoW"? Indicating they actually do try to convince you on what to play if you don't already know.

[@rileth52]

@Haretic just fun pointing out smooth brain comments!

[@jonillow]

I really hate the new font you are using on these thumbnails…

[@Cooperharley0204]

Who cares

[@TrumpWonSeetheLefties]

@@Cooperharley0204 they do

[@jonillow]

​@@Cooperharley0204 Must we be subject to that which is esthetically unpleasing? Is it too much to ask for beauty in this fragile world of ours? When God sings with his creations, will a turtle not be part of the choir??

[@Cooperharley0204]

@@jonillow 💀

[@buliwyfZrage]

FERAL DRUID! Always. Forever.