KIA Ceed Sportswagon PHEV - Tiger With an Underbite (ENG) - Test Drive and Review

[@MarekDrivesENG]

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[@kristianhermann5971]

Beautiful car - a gem amid the SUV craze

[@MrSunnyBhoy]

Very nice car. Love the design.

[@JanHenrik541]

Pretty happy with Kias in terms of reliability and value. My Niro PHEV is my transition workhorse car at least until we have more E-GMP based EVs to choose from, and I am financially in a position where I can make a switch. The step to full electric feels a bit larger if you haven’t tried a PHEV first I feel..

[@JanHenrik541]

Btw; the “sport mode” could be called charge mode, but I think tow mode would’ve also been appropriate. If you tow anything with a PHEV it works a lot better if you don’t deplete the battery too much.

[@alliejr]

Great review. I wish we had these in the Stare’s.

[@MarekDrives]

Don't you get compact station wagons?

[@alliejr]

@@MarekDrives Haha. That’s a joke, right? In case it wasn’t… NO… not since the 1990s.

[@vedmajstor]

New logo looks like cyrillic KИ (latin KI). Just A is missing for the russian version KИA

[@maejshbrail2233]

can easily get more than the 57km on the pure electricity, (60 without AC on), I drive 33-35KM each way to work, and can make it there and back on 1 charge here in the summertime :), just cruise at like 80-90km/h and its fine :) traffic doesnt allow for much more anyways.

[@Fuse7000]

So you're saying 70 Km. is doable?? (asking this seriously, because my current Lynk&Co does some 80-ish Km. in summertime and that's something I haven't seen yet in a PHEV below 40.000,- )

[@maejshbrail2233]

its doable yes, but that would be the max, as I wrote I had the 35ish km to work, and could go there and back on 1 charge, just, thats eco driving (partly because of queues) no aircon etc. but ye doable.@@Fuse7000

[@daradigney]

Glad I found your videos. I've taken order of the new proceed gt line, pretty disappointed that it doesn't come with led headlights. Haven't had a car with H7 headlight bulbs since 2014. Also was forced to go manual as they have take all their automatic in the ceed family of the line for some 'unknown' reason

[@simonkraushaar6955]

So, nothing to do with the car being reviewed then….

[@marcush2220]

Nice review, I'm waiting to may to come , then I'm will get my full spec ceed Phev 2022 model 🥳

[@MarekDrivesENG]

Good luck!

[@marcush2220]

@@MarekDrivesENG thank you 🙂

[@notmissingout9369]

I have a 2021 ceed sports wagon 2 never had a problem with it never let me down

[@snaadps4353]

How many kilometers did you drive?

[@jackchow6668]

Well designed and oriented

[@Azmirator]

Welcome new Ceed, its still just Kia Seed, but now with price almost like a Mercedes E-class ! Nice...

[@dbattar2400]

The Kia ceed SW starts from 25k euros, Mercedes E class SW starts from 50k euros. What am I missing?

[@dbattar2400]

Aha your comparing apples to oranges... But yeah I agree I'd rather have E class petrol vs Ceed phev. But I would also rather have Ceed petrol for half the E petrol price if we compare apples.

Statien Wagen forever

[@nonbeliever8689]

I have the 2021 PHEV SW. Have driven it now for a year in Finland, at the average consumption for 17 000 km is 2,5 litres/100km. Main issue I have with the car is that although the MHEV version comes with a turbo, this one doesn't. Any idea what was the logic behind that decision?

[@MarekDrivesENG]

I suppose here you have the large electric motor to help you out, when you need better acceleration. And ultimately this is not a performance car.

[@kenanmorad3294]

he said withut battery its eats 7 liter per 100 km ! who is real?

[@nonbeliever8689]

@@kenanmorad3294 on motorways with high speed maybe around 6-6,5. I only drive it in town, so even with empty battery I will reach figures less than 5. If you are planning to buy a PHEV, I would recommend to get one with a Turbo. Only con with this car is that it doesn’t have one.

[@kenanmorad3294]

after your review I disided not to buy the car because they said 1,5 liter per 100 km and you said up to 7 liter per 100 km after the battery die. so thank you for that information . that's meaning att the car convert to normal bensin car after battery die.

[@MarekDrivesENG]

PHEV official test results are always skewed, because during the test cycle they barely use the petrol engine. Assuming you drive mainly short distances, and have a place to recharge cheaply, a PHEV could make sense.

[@MrCABman1972]

What are you expecting from a plug-in hybrid. The battery will only get you about 50km... but you may drive longer ranges in ECO mode, perhaps 150-200km with very low overall consumption becasue the battery is assisting in the interval where the petrol engine needs it. If you plan to drive a longer distance you need to turn the petrol engine on at the start and not run the battery dry first. Plug-in hybrids are excellent for people that drive allot of short distance and charge them at home during the night, with this you can probably get down to way below 1 litre per 10km in overall consumption. This is pure physics...

[@heyyo.k]

Any improvement about driving noise from tires??

[@MarekDrives]

Depends on the tires I guess.

[@medi768]

Do you have your tests in 2 languages, English and Polish? I saw exact the same test in Polish. Was that doubed?

[@MarekDrivesENG]

No, I write the script in Polish, translate it into English, and record everything twice.

[@kevinn1158]

KN.... my initials!! Ok I guess I have to buy a KN. The CEED looks nice but is it much cheaper than the European competition ?

[@MarekDrives]

Not much, but just. And it's very Volkswagenish in terms of practicality, which I think is a good thing.

[@christianronn5301]

Bonging is something I mostly associate with American cars (door ajar, etc) but sharp beeping is very much an Asian thing. I was in a Prius that beeped like an effing microwave every time it thought the driver was out of her lane, which on the narrow back road we were on was all the effing time. My Passat just tugs at the steering wheel, and on that particular road it realizes it has no idea what’s what and just lets me do the driving.

[@MarekDrives]

Yes, that's what I'm often trying to convey. German cars usually guide you politely, but firmly. Whereas brands designed in other countries tend to be less firm, but also much less polite about their warnings and suggestions :)

[@Usul-xp6ve]

Ok, so Ive owned the PHEV variant for two months and it has a good fuel economy and thats it. I have major problems with this car and mainly three. I just cant understand what they where thinking when they designed the dashboard and the windscreen. Because the entire weird pattern of the dashboard reflects directly on the windscreen, I dont have words for this, its just beyond me. First time that Ive owned a car with this feature, destracting you from the road with reflection on the windscreen?! Then we have the auto wipers in front, thats just auto and you cant shut down the auto feature.. Every time I start the car I get the "agreement" on the monitor that I have to agree on: that I follow the regulations and the traffic law etc. Everytime.

[@bokichko]

0:30 what about XCeed

[@MarekDrives]

Apparently that's an SUV :)

[@TomasJot]

I don’t see where is the value for this KIA PHEV model: slow accelaration, not so economical as PHEV and price range :)

[@ukaszwisniewski2614]

Witam. Pytanko. Mam suzuki swace hybryda i to jest zajebiste auto w miescie, ale w trasie bardzo nie podoba mi się wygluszenie. Jakie auto jest w miarę wygluszone przy prędkościach autostradowych tak do 150 tysi? Dzięki za odpowiedź. Pozdrawiam.

[@-xYz--nk1gm]

próbowałeś nową mazdę 6? jeździlem 2019 i wygłuszenie jest dużo lepsze niż skoda superb 3 z 2016

[@Taliskerop]

What is more challenging: convince the KZbin algorithm I have no clue of Polish or KIA designing an ugly car? I think Hyundai’s team of designers are in hibernation mode against their offspring... Still wait for the revelation of your B-SUV btw Marek. Thanks for yet another witty, sober review!

[@ubermod5564]

That's a LOT of boot space lost on the PHEV model. Kind of makes it not much of an estate. And therefore pointless. Disappointed as I have a 2013 Ceed sportwagon and would have considered this.

[@JaasonAnthonie]

Estate!

[@ast5515]

The facelift made it look much worse. They had the 1.4 turbo engine for 3 years and whooosh. It's gone. We have no idea if it's reliable or not and now we have a new one that we know even less about. I know it has a warranty but many people in the forums complain about random error messages and check engine lights in the 1.5 turbo models and the official answer is that it's a software issue and there is no fix. It's been 3 months at least and there is still no fix. New car reliability is shit. With every brand. Source: Sold a Ford because they couldn't fix it under warranty. Thinking about selling a 2019 Nissan Leaf because they cannot fix it under warranty. Friend has a Kia with the DCT and they replaced the clutch pack and dual mass flywheel 3 times under warranty (he knows it's a dct and didn't burn it, it simply failed, the second and third ones lasted less than 1000 km). Another friend gets 3 free oil changes a year because they can't fix the oil dilution issue in the Transit Connect. They also have a Navara and it only needed a new coolant hose, a MAP sensor, and a wastegate solenoid in the first 1,5 years. It also sounds like it has a failing injector but it's under warranty so we don't give a crap until it stops dead. But yeah. New cars are rock solid other than that.

[@Grazvius]

I have Proceed GT Line (2019, 1.4 T-GDI). I made ~40k km already with zero issues. So far my experience is pretty good with this particular model. BTW, Marek’s overview was the final influence (the review of Proceed) for the decision to buy.

[@freestick19822000]

👏👍👌

[@bobholmes4215]

Another great review, thank you. It doesn't seem that good as a PHEV - terrible performance, a sport mode which isn't sporty, and on top of that the 41k EUR price seems a bit steep. For that kind of money you can now get a fairly decent full on EV, eg. the Enyaq iV 60. With regard to the body versions, the Proceed is a really great looking car. If they made a fully EV version of it I would be very tempted.

[@MarekDrives]

Totally agree

[@bsandrade77]

I agree. But I bought mine 2021 version for 34k, top trim. Very happy.

[@NigelRudyard]

Electric Tiger! Doesn't look that roomy for an estate(almost) thing).

[@eliasbartos]

Hi, I have a KIA CEED PHEV 2022. I'm very disappointed how the hybrid system works. If it low temperature outside (below 10 C) then the petrol engine always starts if the so if im driving under 10km it never runs purly on electricity. Or if the AC is runing the petrol engien starts. So the petrol enginen is always running when heating or cooling... My advise, dont buy a KIA

[@maejshbrail2233]

all this you should have known from the beginning tho, its not like its hidden information its basic knowledge..

[@damiantuttle1348]

Way way WAAAY too over complicated milk float

[@DaveDVideoMaker]

Uncool!

[@hussainqureshiwaish7364]

Kia are one of the most unreliable cars in the market

[@MarekDrivesENG]

Unreliable cars or unreliable service?

[@hussainqureshiwaish7364]

@@MarekDrivesENG the car itself is unreliable they're nown for major engine failures and other electrical issues that kia refuse to take responsibility for ovoid kia and hyundai like a plague

[@MrCABman1972]

No... they are not... KIA seed in particular have very good reputation... I own one for 16 years now with little to no issues (diesel) one. According to the service people that inspect cars here (mandatory for all cars) these are among the best ones on the market for reliability and have the least issues from a legal stand point.

[@hussainqureshiwaish7364]

@@MrCABman1972 al bullshit

[@MrCABman1972]

@@hussainqureshiwaish7364 What is?!? My car has worked flawlessly for 16 years and is still going strong... it will be handed over to my son as his first car soon. It also is true that KIA have a rather good reputation in my country as a reliable and quality low cost car. JD Power Vehicle Dependability Study repeatedly have KIA in the top as one example. If you want to shit on something you better have more than words to back up your claims?!?!!