Margaret Breaks Down to Queen Elizabeth | The Crown (Imelda Staunton, Lesley Manville)

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4 ай бұрын

My dears, in this scene, the queen (Imelda Staunton) mourns her lost home, while Margaret (Lesley Manville), facing the impending death of Peter (Ben Miles), brings up personal grievances and challenges Elizabeth about preventing her from marrying Peter.
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@MovingPicsOfficial 3 ай бұрын

My dears, watch the scene when Peter asks Margaret if their love was lasting HERE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXTEap2udt2Bja8

@marku.9644 4 ай бұрын

This is one of the scenes ever on The Crown. They barely gave this Older Margaret her own moments but this one was so well done. Kudos to her acting

@juanchoresultay2704 3 ай бұрын

she did have her own moments in this episode though and on season 6 of the episode where margaret dies

@branflakes12341 25 күн бұрын

Thats because diana was constantly dominating it. Got sick of seeing her, wanted others

@jontaedouglas7244 4 ай бұрын

"My neighbor for one" 😂😂 British humor just gets me

@karldelavigne8134 4 ай бұрын

That was powerful. Lesley Manville was superb here.

@Cor6196 4 ай бұрын

That hand drawn across her mouth (wiping the bile from her lips?). Genius!

@miguelcarlobarreda430 4 ай бұрын

an award worthy scene

@shanemcaleer8582 2 ай бұрын

A knockout performance

@pennyceline15 2 ай бұрын

Lesley Manville gave a Masterclass for acting on this scene. Her gamut of emotions from longing to anger is on point and not to mention her diction on words.

@rosscleofe6103 Ай бұрын

Gamut. Gamut of emotions. Not gamete. Gamete means a fertilized sex cell.

@kevinrobb86 2 ай бұрын

The relationships that got away are always the ones that work out perfectly in your head

@02june80 Ай бұрын

The fact is Princess Margaret could still have married Peter W. Townsend as well as still keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden did agree to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.

@michaelplunkett8059 Ай бұрын

And after 40 years, Margaret can't see she is in a different age. What might be possible later, is not in an earlier age.

@user-kr9dr9kr6o 24 күн бұрын

When everything else doesn’t work out, it’s the only one that makes sense anymore. It’s likely not true but it makes us feel better.

@branflakes12341 4 ай бұрын

Been waiting for this scene for ages to be uploaded. Pure emotion of someone speaking from the heart about things that she has bottled up for years.

@ErnestoHerrera2002 4 ай бұрын

Same

@DVPerry220 4 ай бұрын

You are spot on with your observations. Margaret was right: QEII allowed her own daughter to marry a divorcée ~ and forbade her SISTER from doing the same. This was the make or break decision of poor Margaret’s life. 💔 I pitied her from the beginning with her sister’s decision; they both HAD to live with it for the rest of their lives. 💔😞

@glen7318 3 ай бұрын

nonsense neither of Annes' husbands were divorced. @@DVPerry220

@02june80 3 ай бұрын

@@DVPerry220: No, Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.

@02june80 3 ай бұрын

@ceejayl5350 3 ай бұрын

And even after 40 years you you CANNOT baby that line alone 😢broke my heart for princess Margaret

@ThomasOutt Ай бұрын

It ripped me apart this scene...Princess Margaret could have had the same level of acceptance & accommodation as the Princess Royal. She most likely would have been healthier & lived a more useful life. Alas...

@02june80 19 күн бұрын

@@ThomasOutt: The fact is Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden did agree to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers of encouragement when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.

@jeannehall6546 3 ай бұрын

I’m beginning to wonder if Margaret’s situation with Peter was the reason Elizabeth finally allowed Charles to marry Camilla.

@marciaspiegel5280 3 ай бұрын

Like it matters a damn anyway for a figurehead family.

@01denese 3 ай бұрын

Edward VIII too

@jeannehall6546 3 ай бұрын

@@01denese Probably.

@user-ne3yw2cu6c 2 ай бұрын

The morality of England's Monarchy has always been a Farce since Henry VIII.

@m.g.3013 2 ай бұрын

This isn't real you know

@outinsider 3 ай бұрын

I love how the Crown portrays Margaret, as a Greek chorus of audience watching in on the British royal family destroying each other for duty. No human being is worth that price.

@okvh 2 ай бұрын

She should have won an award for that scene.

@lordalessan 4 ай бұрын

Based on several documentaries: In real life, Elizabeth devised a plan with her Prime Minister Anthony Eden to allow Margaret to marry Peter AND keep her titles and privileges, but their kids would be taken off the line of succession. However, Margaret decided not to marry Peter by then, telling a biographer later on that she lost interest after their two year separation. It was not known if she was aware of the plan, her close friends said she was devastated and was probably never told till it was too late. Truth or reality, Margaret made the choice.

@02june80 3 ай бұрын

Yes, Princess Margaret’s “love” with Peter W. Townsend was apparently merely an infatuation akin to a schoolgirl crush. Princess Margaret wrote a letter to the PM R. Anthony Eden from Balmoral less than a week before her 25th birthday: “I am writing to tell you, as far as I can of any personal plans during the next few months ... During the last of August and all September I shall be here at Balmoral, and I have no doubt that during this time - especially on my birthday on August 21st - the press will encourage every sort of speculation about the possibility of my marrying Group Captain Peter Townsend. I am not going to see him during this time but in October I shall be returning to London, and he will then be taking his annual leave - I do certainly hope to see him while he is there... But it is only by seeing him in this way that I feel I can properly decide whether I can marry him or not. At the end of October or early November I very much hope to be in a position to tell you and the other Commonwealth Prime Ministers what I intend to do. The Queen of course knows I am writing to you about this, but of course no one else does, and as everything is so uncertain I know you will regard it certainly as a confidence.” [Ends] “This letter rewrites history, because here you’ve got a very determined and confident young woman in control of the situation, telling the Prime Minister that she has not decided and is wavering, which is at odds with what the public was led to believe and certainly with what she told me. The perception was that she gave up the love of her life for duty and protocol, but this letter sets a question mark over that. It shows that the love, conceivably, was not as strong as it was to begin with. It’s likely she didn’t want anyone other than Eden to know she’d had doubts, because it had gone so far.” - Christopher Warwick (1949-2022)

@albertlyons1042 14 күн бұрын

More Palace-friendly revisionist history, along the lines of the "Diana was a slut when she married" rubbish designed to make Charles look good. Spoiler alert: you can't polish a turd.

@robertmiskell8117 3 ай бұрын

Margaret is so on point here. You get the feel of an implicit, "Buckle up!...," when Elizabeth weakly responds, "You?"

@andrewbrendan1579 4 ай бұрын

Princess Margaret says, "...like one of those Agatha Christie mysteries..." The first time I ever saw Lesley Manvile was in "one of those Agatha Christie mysteries". In "Cards on the Table" David Suchet played Hercule Poirot, Lesley Manville played Mrs. Lorrimer the bridge-playing murder suspect. I never forgot her performance and many years later on You Tube I found "Cards on the Table" and over and over have watched the scenes in which Lesley Manville appears. I think Lesley Manville in whatever role is someone with whom people can feel a connection. There's something about Ms. Manville that you just simply like her.

@JohnHitchcock-um1gz 4 ай бұрын

Margo nailed Andrew - spot on!

@MarkHyde Ай бұрын

Margaret saying her piece as only the sister of the Queen could do. The thinnest thread of an excuse from the Queen hardly absolves her of the harm she inflicted on her sister. Brilliant acting from these two powerful women.

@user-cf7pe3qg1c 4 ай бұрын

Margaret's life would have, most likely, turned out better had she married Peter.

@audreykennedy90 4 ай бұрын

She loved her HRH status more. She chose royal perks over him.

@lathatampi 4 ай бұрын

I doubt that. She was selfish and spoilt rotten. She would have driven him mad.

@nina1522 3 ай бұрын

Margaret deserved better. Charles and Diana deserved better.

@curtyeomans8446 3 ай бұрын

You’re assuming that marriage would not have turned out at least somewhat like her marriage to Antony Armstrong Jones (although probably without the disparaging notes). At the very least, the children she had with the man she did marry never would have existed

@nenisguevaragomez8122 3 ай бұрын

True.@@audreykennedy90

@BNCA70 3 ай бұрын

Totally with Mags on this one x

@user-dp3cb9qg8s Ай бұрын

All very dramatised. Margaret could have married whomever she wanted but she didn’t want to give up the titles and the benefits of being a member of the family. That’s how strong their love was.

@brendagordon4571 29 күн бұрын

Had Margaret chosen, would she lived her new life as a commoner, like her uncle who adbricated from the throne?

@user-dp3cb9qg8s 29 күн бұрын

@@brendagordon4571 yes but she didn’t want to is the point that’s been made

@joseguzmxn 4 ай бұрын

Cant wait to see the scene when she is reciting the poem that was written for her, while at a cocktail party in Mustique right before she has a stroke.

@martinkrukenberg4590 4 ай бұрын

many people are not able to marry the love of their life

@bridgecross 4 ай бұрын

But not many people are *ordered* not to, when otherwise circumstances for the marriage are perfect.

@YouandIweremeanttofly 4 ай бұрын

She could have married PeterTownend but she was not willing to give up being"Her Royal Highness" to do so.

@glen7318 3 ай бұрын

she did not have to, she could have retained her title and married him

@ThomasOutt 3 ай бұрын

But ANNE was able to do just what was described here. You are missing the point of the scene.Anne did not have to give up the HRH title, nor her living allowance. Why? The situations were nearly identical, as pointed out.

@AwkwardMr 3 ай бұрын

@@ThomasOutt The key is mentioned in the scene itself. There's forty years between Margaret and Anne's situations; not far off half a century of socio-political changes to attitudes on divorce and religion as well as changes in the law itself. Margaret and Peter's story happened in a completely different time, it's really that simple. But also, she isn't totally accurate when she talks about not having a hope of acceding. Margaret was significantly closer in line to the throne (with only her sister and her infant children who couldn't rule before her) when she wanted to marry Peter. Anne had her mother plus her three brothers ahead of her, she was nowhere near and getting farther and farther away.

@YouandIweremeanttofly 3 ай бұрын

@02june80 3 ай бұрын

No, Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.

@bridgecross 4 ай бұрын

What would have been better for the royal family? I would say allowing Margaret to marry the man who loved her, would have treated her well and behaved as a prince. It would have avoided a boatload of scandals.

@AnnaBellaChannel 4 ай бұрын

The Church of England at the time was stamping it feet regarding divorce. Henry VIII was not divorce form Catherine of Aragon their marriage was Annulled. A divorce will formally dissolve a marriage based on the relationship having broken down, whereas an annulment will render it void or defective - meaning it was never legally valid or there is reason to believe the marriage can be voided.

@TheHatchetwoman 2 ай бұрын

@@AnnaBellaChannel Henry was divorced from Anna of Cleves.

@AnnaBellaChannel 2 ай бұрын

@@TheHatchetwoman Henry VIII was not divorce from her. Anne of Cleves and Henry VIII's marriage was formally annulled on 9 July 1540. Unlike divorce, which was rare in Tudor England, an annulment declared that the marriage had never been valid or binding. Anne was only formally told of the annulment three days before its approval.

@giorgioroyaume8815 3 ай бұрын

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@curtyeomans8446 3 ай бұрын

It should be pointed out that when Margaret and Peter wanted to get married, not only was it a situation where she had never been married and he had, but she was also third in line to the throne behind two young children. Anne, on the other hand, was a divorcee who was eighth in the line of succession behind three adult brothers, a nephew who was about to become a teenager, another nephew who was not far behind his brother in age and two young nieces (plus Anne was like “Screw you, I’m gonna marry him whether you like it or not so you might as well like it”). The two situations were actually quite different. You can never be sure what will happen to young kids (they could get sick, have a bad fall off a horse, etc.). Once those kids grow up and have kids of their own, however, and other siblings have come along, there are a lot more people in line to take the throne in case anything happens to the heir apparent. I mean Anne is like, what, 16th or 17th in the line of succession now that most of her nieces and nephews are parents

@hermalindasalais3638 3 ай бұрын

Anne was willing to give up titles for her children and Margaret wasn't.

@02june80 3 ай бұрын

@sp-bl1sl 2 ай бұрын

Margaret's childrens' titles came to them thru their father, not their mother. Had she married Townsend, and he were given a title the same would hold true.

@mariahoulihan9483 2 ай бұрын

different generation.

@mariahoulihan9483 2 ай бұрын

and she didn;t lose her place in the line of succession.

@mariahoulihan9483 2 ай бұрын

shame was the vast majority of the British poublic at the time. I heard from my older relatives including my Mother and her parents born in 1892, one of them, felt she should have been allowed to marry him and kept all her priveilges.. it made no difference to them. It was the powers that be and be Church.

@tingdzin 4 ай бұрын

Love these two.

@MintakaSaiph 4 ай бұрын

Such a good scene. She's 100% correct. If only they fell in love twenty years later. Also, Anne didn't give her kids titles so even if the Queen strongly opposed and publicly, I think that Anne would have renounced her title tbh. Margaret really enjoys her title and the perks that came along with it.

@lordalessan 4 ай бұрын

I hate to say this but I agree. Margaret of all the family members appeared to enjoy her wealth. I see Anne giving it up, even Elizabeth herself, who enjoyed the life of a military wife and the freedom to just keep home, ride horses and enjoy peace. I never saw Margaret enjoying it.

@02june80 3 ай бұрын

Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.

@uppanadam 3 ай бұрын

This makes history so much sense!!

@carolhutchins8995 2 ай бұрын

I truly believe that Margaret's problems were the direct result of her mother's rigid, antiquated beliefs of how royalty should behave. She did everything she could to keep them apart.

@fahimfaisalmahir567 2 ай бұрын

Her mother was one of the reasons British ppl had support and loyalty towards the monarchy even after WW2..

@vickenator 4 ай бұрын

As I understand it, she could have married Peter, but would have had to forgo her titles and $$$. She chose the latter. It was ultimately her choice, yet I don't see her taking any responsibility for the path her life took, instead blaming Elizabeth for all of it.

@michaelhayden725 4 ай бұрын

The other issue was that back in 1954 or so Margaret was still within the top 5 who had to have Elizabeth’s permission to marry. When Anne married Commander Lawrence she was well outside the top 5 and over 25 and then married in Scotland. Plus it was almost 40 years later and a different world.

@DVPerry220 4 ай бұрын

@@michaelhayden725Mr. Hayden, THANK you for explaining all this. I’m American and of course I have no idea HOW one qualifies for life/status in the Royal Family. I DO know that the Monarch is Head of the Church of England. It is the Monarch’s responsibility to decide whether a couple meet certain criteria to qualify for marriage in the Church of England. I know that KCIII was a widower but not certain about Camilla’s status. Is Andrew Parker Bowles still divorced but alive? 🤔

@HoennMaster 4 ай бұрын

@@michaelhayden725The top six needing permission to marry was implemented in 2013. Prior to that almost everyone needed permission, regardless of where they were in line.

@kaviyaprabharan1832 4 ай бұрын

But anne didn't lose her titles and continued as working royal even after got divorced and remarried .that's what most biased decision because the case in anne and margaret are same but margaret was given choice to loe titles and marry Peter but anne was allowed to do anything she wants to do

@kaviyaprabharan1832 4 ай бұрын

@@DVPerry220 by the time of camilla second marriage her ex husband was alive

@misterhot9163 5 күн бұрын

Well deserved Emmy nominations for Imelda Staunton and Lesley Manville 👏

@japanjack62 3 ай бұрын

Excellent acting...At least P.M. had two great kids and grandchildren from her marriage

@augustalavenderblue7353 4 ай бұрын

No idea how she felt in real life, but this character obviously feels as though she was a victim of others instead of someone who made her own choice when in fact that was what she was. She could have Peter or her title but not both. Obviously she didn't love him enough to give up her title which is fine but no one's fault. She made it much harder on herself by going around feeling slighted, whereas Peter moved on and married another teenage girl 🤷‍♀️

@TheHatchetwoman 2 ай бұрын

She could have kept the title, but she was told her marriage would be a "Morganatic" marriage, meaning that she gave up her place in the succession, and none of her children would be in the line of succession, either. At the time, it was the Queen, then the then-very-young Charles and Anne, then Margaret. She didn't want to give up being in the line of succession, and chose that over Townshend. By then, her crush on him was done with, anyway.

@Jacquesharris96 2 ай бұрын

Many people forget that Queen Elizabeth II and Princess Margaret we're close until she became Queen

@irawilliams343 4 ай бұрын

I think Margaret loved Tony but Peter certainly held a very special place in her heart. Maybe she would have been happier if she became Mrs. Townsend.

@02june80 3 ай бұрын

@brendagordon4571 13 күн бұрын

The best scene ever ❤️!!!

@thomasplinguidy4588 3 ай бұрын

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. (Robert Frost)

@omydakarim2692 Ай бұрын

This was the best scene in all of the crown.

@anabelasoares2835 3 ай бұрын

Emotional 😢

@Afroman29 4 ай бұрын

Margaret would have been happier if she married Peter. It's a shame the queen and the royals had to get in the way of that relationship.

@DVPerry220 4 ай бұрын

I agree. Some things in life are more valuable in the long run than birth~bound “duties”. 💡

@japerkins3565 4 ай бұрын

I'm more than positive, had the Queen known the future, she would have made a different choice 🤷😊

@EvieBear236 4 ай бұрын

Margaret could have married Peter but she would have had to give up her title and the allowance that went with it. She chose to keep her title and allowance rather than give it up for Peter.

@cherylhulting1301 4 ай бұрын

The Queen didn't. She advised Margaret to wait for two years until she was 25, when the Queen's permission would no longer be required. Peter Townsend also revealed that Margaret was offered the opportunity to contract a morganatic marriage, one in which her children would not be included in the line of succession. These were two ways around the Anglican Church"s stipulations regarding remarriage of divorced people. The Church had liberalized its attitudes regarding divorce by thev1970s and it would not affect Princess Anne. I'm sorry for Princeess Margaret that she remained so unhappy. But she was offered options. She chose not to take them.

@glen7318 3 ай бұрын

not true@@EvieBear236

@j.g.2478 2 күн бұрын

Annus Horribilis is one of the most underrated episodes of the Crown. It would have been so easy for the writers to focus this episode solely on the Queen and her struggles in 1992. Instead they cleverly highlight that while she might feel that this year was her annus horribilis, the people around her often have not just a horrible year but a horrible life - due to the rules of the Crown. This scene is the climax of this argumentative story arch and I love it!

@hera7884 4 ай бұрын

Margaret was waiting to be asked How it was different.

@brendenhuerta21 3 ай бұрын

Oh, SHE DID IT!

@SurprisedDrumKit-ur8gu 4 ай бұрын

Long live Margo ❤.

@ad6417 3 ай бұрын

Wonder what Pete would have thought about Roddy and Mustique?

@tomwheeler2012 3 ай бұрын

powerful

@3506Dodge 3 ай бұрын

She could have just walked away from her royal position and married Townsend as a 'commoner.'

@katehigen7018 4 ай бұрын

As unfortunate as it was, These two circumstances occurred in completely different times. Royal protocol and the society at large back in the 50s was quite different to that in the 90s. Margaret was just born at the wrong time

@seanp2871 4 ай бұрын

Not that different. Even at the time of Margaret's engagement, divorce wasn't uncommon (many members of the privy council were divorced). A case could have been made had Margaret been the heir, but as stated here, there was no real chance she would take the throne. It isn't different; Elizabeth and her advisors just didn't want to veer from tradition.

@jessw9043 4 ай бұрын

@seanp2871 also as well, what happen if the Queen's children got sick, died, and she never had her other sons? Or how about the Queen herself? They were looking that Princess Margaret who would of been the next in line. The church didn't approve of that. She would be forced out of her line and her inheritance and the inner circle didn't want to have another headache from not so long ago was King Edward VIII. They were looking for stability and the crown to be worn by King George's line. There is a lot more I believe that was in the background that this series could ever know. Now please don't get me wrong, Princess Margaret got the wrong end of the stick on a lot of things but unfortunately her Queen's hands were tied.

@seanp2871 4 ай бұрын

@@jessw9043This isn't 1542; most kids don't die young, so once two kids are born and are out of infancy, it's perfectly reasonable for her to start living her life without worrying about possibly getting the crown. The vague possibility in a hypothetical future shouldn't have stopped her from living her life. But it did, and she is allowed to be angry about the double standard.

@DVPerry220 4 ай бұрын

@@seanp2871You are so right. Why SHOULD a Royal list of Do’s and Don’t’s dictate human beings’ right to a happy life? Marrying the man/woman you love SHOULD be allowed, no matter whom you love. 💡

@chich824 4 ай бұрын

@@seanp2871 It isnt about whether it's 1542 or 1954. Margaret was close in the line of succession and marrying a divorced man was highly unsuitable for royals close to the throne at the time . This sorta eased by the 80s but in Margaret's time Divorce was still a big deal. Additionally , the entire fiasco with David leaving the throne for Wallis was recent memory and no one wanted a repeat of that. There's not much Elizabeth could have done ALSO... Margaret could have married Peter Townsend if she wanted to , at the cost of certain royal perks She decided not to because her royal position was more important to her than Peter so it was her decision

@PettyShabazz 3 ай бұрын

Leslie Manville is a godess

@dcoughla681 26 күн бұрын

Lesley Manville should have won the BAFTA & Emmy for this scene. She’s magnificent.

@markmh835 4 ай бұрын

I fully agree with Margaret on this matter. To be consistent with the decisions made in the cases of Princess Margaret and Edward VIII, Princess Anne and King Charles should not have been allowed to stay royal and in the line of succession due to their 2nd marriages with the spouse whose exes were still living.

@realshaho3180 4 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@DVPerry220 4 ай бұрын

A blind eye gets turned on this whenever a Monarch chooses to do just such. {a ~ HEM!} Should Prince Henry divorce Meghan: 1) would he be able to remarry and 2) would he need the Monarch’s approval first? I’m curious about all this. 🧐

@LE-zy2od 4 ай бұрын

@@DVPerry220 KING HARRY would NOT get divorced It's billy and waity katy who are divorcing

@fahimfaisalmahir567 4 ай бұрын

@@LE-zy2odKing Harry? King of Meghan's lavatory? LOL..

@glen7318 3 ай бұрын

what are you talking about? @@DVPerry220

@mccrie407 3 ай бұрын

This would never have happened. Margaret was unflinchingly loyal to the Queen and overly aware of her status as a Princess of the blood royal. While there may have been some resentments I doubt she would have ever regretted not taking a path that led to her two children of whom she was wholly devoted. This is just another hurtful storyline by the Crown. I'm only glad Her Majesty didn't live to see it.

@MTknitter22 Ай бұрын

Yes, I have no doubt Margaret told her sister off similar to this over her outrageous treatment. The Queen did what was best for HER when she should have stood up to every adviser and said yes to the marriage.

@SkepticalChris 2 ай бұрын

Funny how she brings up Agatha Christie mysteries, when Lesley Manville herself was in a Hercule Poirot Mystery with the legendary David Suchet.

@retroguy9494 3 ай бұрын

I remember when the castle fire occurred. Was it REALLY just a fuse for a spotlight in the private chapel? I never heard that before.

@hernar2 3 ай бұрын

As Queen, she absolutely had the power to allow them to marry but instead, she let the institution dictate to her what to do.

@NuGoddess 3 ай бұрын

You do not understand how scandalous divorce was in those days; divorced people were simply not received by polite society. A divorced woman was considered shameful and her prospects of finding happiness were considerably slim. It’s not like today. You cannot apply today’s standards to what happened years ago, it doesn’t work like that.

@anastasiaabrahim9096 3 ай бұрын

No she was given the choice. She chose her HRH

@Cornerboy73 2 ай бұрын

As was the correct thing to do. The mistake was letting Ann marry. Despite what some people think, divorce was an is a shameful and scandalous affair.

@user-lm6kf9co7w Ай бұрын

Which makes her look very weak, and probably parliament. Thought we can control because it’s all about control.

@KarlRove-vk7gg 4 ай бұрын

A leader that has power without responsibility will lose their power. Margret struck my nerves harder than any poet.

@eyhrsh 4 ай бұрын

boo hoo won’t someone think of your poor nerves 🤭

@kaviyaprabharan1832 4 ай бұрын

Anne has her father phillips they both are strong willed enoughto get what they wanted to have .Phillips (decision in charles education to send him to gordouston by threatening queen to honour her word and keep her husband , and also prince title for him to stay in without going for divorce ) . But princess margaret had no one and she was not willing enough to give up the titles so chose royal life .but in anne case she without losing titles got married for second time her father prince phillip never let anne to lose titles because he knows anne is best loyal worker in duty for her family . Both anne and margaret are immature did mistakes but anne learnt from her mistakes became best working loyal royal unlike margaret revenge princess

@batbabe1507 2 ай бұрын

oh my god get over it, she could've still married him and she chose not to. she continues to blame her sister when it was her own fault.

@manugamer9984 3 ай бұрын

The truth is, the age alone had changed… had it all happened even just a decade later, things could’ve turned out differently. It’s heartbreaking to know that it was mostly just bad timing…

@TheEmpressMouse 8 күн бұрын

Well, they did give her the permission to marry him but it was on the condition that she give up her place in the line of succession and her income from the Civil List which she was not prepared to do. She wouldn't give those up for anything. Not even Group Captain Peter Townsend. So in the end the choice was hers.

@herseem Ай бұрын

Did the queen really have all her rooms in almost total darkness, like Miss Haversham?

@xavierclarke5926 Ай бұрын

Still to me the best scene in the crown apart from the ending.

@blktenor Ай бұрын

You don’t know that for certain. You see she gave it up for her status

@martinkrukenberg4590 4 ай бұрын

u cant have it all

@jontaedouglas7244 4 ай бұрын

To her Elizabeth did. Crown and the man she loved

@ej3016 4 ай бұрын

@@jontaedouglas7244Phillip wasn’t a divorcee

@kevinpoole6122 4 ай бұрын

Many thanks for uploading this clip! Bittersweet. Emphasis on the bitter.

@Graceearl35 21 күн бұрын

Margaret was never the same after they took Peter away from her. Her life would have been so different. Love is a big thing. Margaret never got over him. He was the love of her life.

@audreykennedy90 4 ай бұрын

She could have married Peter Townsend. But chose money and royal perks. Priorities...

@jollyfighter7319 3 ай бұрын

But I do believe that she blamed ER for not marrying Peter a little bit.

@sallygillett7087 3 ай бұрын

My mum always said she could have married Peter Townshend. But would have had to give up titles and money

@user-ne3yw2cu6c 3 ай бұрын

@@sallygillett7087 Yes... The cost of love is quite expensive if one wants to avoid being a pauper.

@r.stevens6205 2 ай бұрын

She chose prestige over love so she wasn’t strong enough to deal with life without all that royalty offered her.

@brendagordon4571 29 күн бұрын

Peter was perceived as a commoner, not good enough by royal standards. Peter felt the pressures, and the investigation conducted by Tommie, the Queen's secretary.

@catherinetimmerman9107 19 күн бұрын

She absolutely could have married Peter, but she wasn’t willing to give up her allowance. It boiled down to Margaret not wanting to give up her title or allowance. That’s on her, not the Queen.

@scorpioninpink 3 күн бұрын

The Queen might have apologize privately and this exchange might have never happened BUT if it did, I do hope the Queen apologized to her sister. Watching the Pilot episode of The Crown was devastating for her.

@user-kr9dr9kr6o 24 күн бұрын

She could have had him. She just didn’t want to give it up like her uncle did.

@user-lm6kf9co7w Ай бұрын

Yeah, but you always got to consider. The crown always has to win which is stupid

@simonwhitlock9189 19 күн бұрын

Who would want to be a part of this Machiavellian house, Margaret like Diana was treated abominably.

@ShinbiBelldandy 4 күн бұрын

Princess Margaret deserved way better in life. Their father dying so young pushed her sister into being Queen at a young age, but even then, she had two healthy children & heirs. They were more focused on aesthetics than anything else. I doubt Margaret would have cared if her children had succession rights. She was lonely & wanted to be happy. No disrespect intended to her children, but I think she married Mr. Armstrong-Jones just so she wouldn't be lonely & didn't think she could do better than Peter.

@saibalchakraborty3321 8 күн бұрын

Margot's life was hell , she was never happy , nor was Diana and Charles . Those Lives mattered the most but the crown always took it's side securing it's stability and sanctity .

@iluop3623 2 ай бұрын

Margaret did it. Yes she did. She burned down her sister's digs.

@Vic35102 3 ай бұрын

I think margaret is drunk in the scene

@annierose6985 26 күн бұрын

This scene galls me. Margaret was given a choice. She elected to keep her lavish lifestyle and place in the line of succession rather than the love she said was true. My impression has always been that Townsend was spared from a truly miserable fate.

@ThatBearHasMoxie 3 ай бұрын

And the woman playing Princess Margaret didn't get a Golden Globe why?

@thebernice6062 12 күн бұрын

The third cast didn't get much screen time with so much story devoted to Diana. That was a shame, considering most of them were so talented. I'm not certain why Brits are still hung up on Diana, but the story has been told to death. There was no need to put her front and center for two and a half seasons.

@lexusdriver1963 27 күн бұрын

I think Princess Margaret had a right to get angry at her sister Queen Elizabeth II. It doesn’t matter how you feel about this scene even if you completely take Elizabeth’s side, Elizabeth refused to let her sister Margaret marry Peter Townsend. Sure Margaret would have to give up her titles to be with Peter but Margaret wanted to continue royal life but Margaret really loved Peter Townsend, he’s the only love of her life that really made her so happy.

@spearshake4771 Ай бұрын

If Margaret truly loved Peter she would have sacrificed her HRH status. I mean Peter was willing to sacrifice his career and reputation. If that happened though I can't see the marriage lasting long

@TJD63 Ай бұрын

She had a choice.

@pumpupjam9648 Ай бұрын

Margaret and Peter will have a second chance in the near future. No doubt about it.

@berryrl9 14 күн бұрын

Peter was a divorcee, Sir Laurence was not, he was a bachelor, there was no baggage on his part while Peter had his kids…so no, they’re not the same

@pinkosmondfan 3 ай бұрын

I know this is fictional, but if it were all factual, I could see where Harry got his whiney, victimhood mentality. The only person standing between Margaret and Peter was Margaret. She didn't want to give up her title. She obviously didn't love Peter as much as she claimed to. Anne's situation was, in fact, quite different. There used to be this thing known as 'duty', where your personal feelings and wants didn't matter. You did what was right and what was expected. You didn't have to like it.

@Alex-ym9fm 3 ай бұрын

If you believe the human race has to bow down to PURE BLOOD when u say hi ..by all means, bow down and kiss ur own ass…Christ is the cornerstone for Christianity..NOT The ROYAL FAMILY ..whom are in fact THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND 🤷🏽‍♀️

@martinluthor762 5 күн бұрын

And yet everyone forgets what happened to her uncle and Wallis Simpson. He wanted to be with the woman he loved. It wasn't allowed. She was a divorcee. Sickening when you look at the current king, a divorcee himself, with Camilla, a divorcee too!!

@Cornerboy73 2 ай бұрын

I would have had her arrested and sent to the Tower of London for daring to speak to me like that.

@scottweisel3640 Ай бұрын

Margaret and Phillip as portrayed in this series are both insufferable. They both knew the rules and the game. Margaret gets emotionally involved with a divorced man she knew it wasn’t possible to marry, and then blames her sister for her life of unhappiness. It’s a card she can play for the rest of her life whenever she has a set back. “If only I had married Peter……”. She never considers her personal unhappiness could be caused by anything other than her sister and her forced separation from Peter. She may have just been an unhappy person. She may have had an unhappy marriage with Peter. Phillip may be worse. He knows going into the marriage what his role will be and that Elizabeth will be the Monarch, and yet he always seems angry whenever the realities of that arrangement interfere with his desires. He then takes it out on her, usually in snide remarks or trying to lay a guilt trip on her.

@Jude74 8 күн бұрын

.She decided she liked her titled more than him. She could have married him..

@lynnharris3189 2 ай бұрын

Margaret was a bitter woman.

@KingMossesII 2 ай бұрын

Wasn't The Church of England formed for Divorces

@arindamkumar7725 Ай бұрын

Margaret is right though....

@jb7287 4 ай бұрын

Shes a MESS

@beccamcdonald9846 Ай бұрын

Margret was wasting her breath in this scene. No matter HOW many times Margret has laid it out all in front of her the Queen still refused to admit what she did wrong. Trying to get the Queen to apologize for her doing is like trying to have a narcissistic mother to apologize for abusing her children….🤷🏼‍♀️

@Unownshipper 3 ай бұрын

This is what annoys me (perhaps the most) about The Crown. For all its high production values and focus on getting historic details like cars and clothes and likenesses down, it plays fast and loose with historic facts when the writers decide it makes for juicier drama. Margaret CHOSE to call off the engagement with Peter Townsend while Elizabeth SUPPORTED her sister enough to try and amend the Royal Marriages Act of 1772. This scene is well acted by Manville and the dialogue is well written, but its core is such bullshit! Margaret’s final episode with The Ritz, is also a fanciful invention (yes, the two were out on VE night, but the story of them sneaking off to a raucous postwar party almost certainly never happened) but at least that episode *feels* more true to who Princess Margaret was as a person than these OFT-REPEATED scenes of decades-simmering, misplaced resentment. To be clear, it would’ve been fine to show Margaret pining for Townsend for the rest of her life and regretting her choice, but blaming Elizabeth is a writer’s convenience built around an invented theme of polar opposite royal siblings. The writers simply wanted to build the sisters’ tension up to serve as mirrors of King George and the Duke of Windsor and William and Harry. Margaret was a wild partier and an unconventional member of her family but (like her sister and father) she was ALSO devoted to her royal duties, her country, her charities, and the church. The Crown barely mentions any of the latter because rather than show a complex, multi-dimensional woman, they’d prefer to flatten her into an eternal victim.