Margaret Thatcher on Europe - Definitive Uncut Interview (1991)

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On 22 November 1991, exactly one year after her resignation from 10 Downing Street, former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher was interviewed by ITN’s Michael Brunson. The focus of the interview was on Mrs Thatcher’s opposition to the European Monetary Union (EMU), and the broader issue of Britain’s relationship with Europe. Over the course of a 40-minute interview, the former Conservative leader argued for a referendum on the UK's place in the European Community, which she believed was at risk of becoming a "federation" ruled by European Commission officials "thirsty for power", robbing Britain of its parliamentary sovereignty. In doing so, Thatcher put down a comprehensive record of her views on Europe, many of which would be echoed by the Vote Leave campaign during the Brexit referendum 25 years later.
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@adamcormie3362
@adamcormie3362 5 ай бұрын
One thing was always certain, her love of Britain and everything British, nobody stood up for this country like her
@sonnykeith8338
@sonnykeith8338 5 ай бұрын
Prime minister Thatcher fought tooth and nail for her country. Todays politicians (MP's) fight to feather their own nests.
@merseybeat1963
@merseybeat1963 23 күн бұрын
No because they are Marxists. The results in history of that political theory created by that miserable man is not enough evidence for them. They will always want "one last go at getting it right.."
@kwnstantinos_lts5122
@kwnstantinos_lts5122 5 ай бұрын
She was an exceptional politician and woman. Every one who does not understand this, whether they are left or right, is just ridiculous. Margaret Thatcher did a remarkable job as PM
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
😮🤮
@alekdaniels
@alekdaniels 12 күн бұрын
@@MeMyself-jz9msHuh? You're simply showing your ignorance. Mrs. Thatcher revived Britain and stamped out the dirt that is communism.
@mjpm2409
@mjpm2409 Ай бұрын
This amazing woman should be an utter embarrassment to nearly every politician in the UK today. The quality and strength of thought, her universal view on the UK and it's interests. Just spectacular.
@lui.s.e7400
@lui.s.e7400 6 күн бұрын
Absolutely! She was such an amazing leader and truly dedicated to the best interests of our once great nation and its people.. the future, under the rule of our present government, is rather terrifying.
@stephenguppy7882
@stephenguppy7882 6 ай бұрын
I am not her biggest fan, though how I wish she was here now. She really did say what she was doing, also how and why, and she told us it would hurt. Short-term pain for long-term gain. Politicians are just not like this anymore.
@vasileiosntinas7833
@vasileiosntinas7833 6 ай бұрын
The lady left a legacy.Obey.
@buszen
@buszen 6 ай бұрын
She stood for #Britain and stood by what she said. I never knew till ten years ago that in the 80's the UK adopted the Neo-Liberalism designed and implemented by the Pinochet gov of Chile. An economic model that made Chile the most stable and best economy in Latin America; as an economic model, this made Britain great again , after the labour distaster in the 70's that left the #Uk broke,. Then only to be destroyed by subsequent #labour govs. Labour is #socialist and #socialism is a scam. We need people like Maggie to defend being British, our freedom and #democracy.
@VincentRE79
@VincentRE79 4 ай бұрын
Yes it is now short term pain and long term pain.
@jeffsmith3392
@jeffsmith3392 6 ай бұрын
She’s something else isn’t she. Way above pigmy politicians of now.
@melgrant7404
@melgrant7404 5 ай бұрын
Definitely something else. 😊
@normanchristie4524
@normanchristie4524 5 ай бұрын
She was truly something of the night.
@normanchristie4524
@normanchristie4524 5 ай бұрын
Did she drink blood?
@peretzo
@peretzo 6 ай бұрын
Breathtaking. Historical. A giant.
@GrooveTasticThang
@GrooveTasticThang 6 ай бұрын
What a thinker and communicator- not sound bite and focus group pole sitters-
@arranle
@arranle 5 ай бұрын
So very prevalent ......... Ideas & thoughts carried through to 2016 when I am proud to say I voted Brexit
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
If you don’t speak English use your mother tongue, because google can translate for you.
@markmayonnaise1163
@markmayonnaise1163 2 ай бұрын
What part of the original comment wasn't proper English? ​@@MeMyself-jz9ms
@mathew2201
@mathew2201 2 күн бұрын
It clearly doesn't make any sense.
@karireinikainen2876
@karireinikainen2876 5 ай бұрын
As a citizen of both the UK and Finland, Thatcher's words about Britain defending liberty resonate very well. It was Britain- and the US - that gave Finland and Sweden security guarantees after the Russian attack on Ukraine. Our dear friends on the Continent pursued other interests. Personally, this I will never forget!
@sylvaincroissant7650
@sylvaincroissant7650 5 ай бұрын
I seem to remember Britain was opposed to the indépendance of the US. Or against the French revolution. All this gibberish is just that. England was always in the team that defended it's interests . Freedom my eye.
@Wackospackos
@Wackospackos 5 ай бұрын
@@sylvaincroissant7650Two events from the 18th century, not exactly representative of modern Britain
@sylvaincroissant7650
@sylvaincroissant7650 5 ай бұрын
@@Wackospackos that's rich that you are supposed to use historic attitudes to define a country liberty index of some sort ,but then that you pick and choose. Now regarding the Ukraine thing Karirene was talking about, this attitude by Nato countries, and the UK and the US first, is irresponsible. It goes in the direction of war and that is obviously what Nato is for nowadays. What garrantee was given to Sweden and Finland. That the Nato countries would attack Russia in the name of say Finland? And so that all central and Eastern Europe would go to ashes ? That's very cheap to play with other people's blood. Hoping another conflict would engulf Europe and that it would mainly serve the US and England as the 2 previous global conflicts?
@artrandy
@artrandy 3 ай бұрын
@@sylvaincroissant7650 Why was the UK's response to the military quest for the independence of the 13 colonies, (to describe it more accurately), so appalling, when these were British colonialists enjoying protection under the British crown when it suited them, and who then decided they wanted to dispense with the monarchy to save money on taxes? Your pro Russian support of the invasion of Ukraine, with all the loss of life and the child killing which has occured at the hands of Russia, demonstrate that you live your life in a moral vacuum..........
@sylvaincroissant7650
@sylvaincroissant7650 3 ай бұрын
@@artrandy no. I m appalled by this proxi war that the west is waging against Russia, with hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians already dead. There was no need of a war against Russia as this country made it very clear it would not accept NATO or the EU on its doorstep, in the same way the US risked a nuclear war in 1962 and made clear nuclear missiles in Cuba was a big no-no. All the rest is just ridiculous. Ukraine cannot win a war against Russia. Just look at a map. Encourage this is insane. Now regarding the position of England against the independence of the United States , I did not say it's position was appalling. I just said it was not in the sense of "the defense of liberty". The UK defends its interests. As does the US, Russia or France.
@NotMarkKnopfler
@NotMarkKnopfler Ай бұрын
Wow. She was amazing. I was too young and stupid to appreciate her back in the day. I didn't understand that even through early 80s recession (in my which my family suffered) she was doing the difficult things that _had_ to be done.
@izabelajaworska3226
@izabelajaworska3226 5 ай бұрын
❤❤ thank you Very much for The recording and posting IT!❤😊😊 Greetings from Poland!
@stephenasbridge878
@stephenasbridge878 10 күн бұрын
2024……any Remainers watching? Maggie was right and John Major ended up taking us in the wrong direction. 🇬🇧
@dlennox1629
@dlennox1629 2 ай бұрын
Rip Iron Lady....
@davidabbott3927
@davidabbott3927 2 күн бұрын
Wish she was here and back in charge
@michaelburling
@michaelburling 3 ай бұрын
This is so relevant today.
@colinwinterman
@colinwinterman 21 күн бұрын
Maggie, spilling the beans, for today, she knew everything, with warnings
@lovedaybebe5881
@lovedaybebe5881 5 ай бұрын
I feel I was duped by the media/ spitting image mocking of her ! I wish I knew what I know now about politics , morals and the human condition. If Saint Peter lets me through the pearly gates, I feel I owe her an apology ! She was magnificent !
@KazgarothUsher
@KazgarothUsher 4 ай бұрын
Another fascinating post - thanks ITN :)
@FordTransitvan
@FordTransitvan 6 ай бұрын
History once again shows she was right
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
“As always, you’ve given us about five hours of editing there!”😂
@123brownjames
@123brownjames 6 ай бұрын
She is much much missed 🇬🇧😞
@melgrant7404
@melgrant7404 5 ай бұрын
Not by some.
@JupiterThunder
@JupiterThunder 5 ай бұрын
@@melgrant7404 Yes, not by the unions, not by communist traitors, not by the Argies, not by the IRA, not by the Russians.
@merseybeat1963
@merseybeat1963 23 күн бұрын
All the Remainer interests point out every bullsht reason for the many wanting Brexit except the the TRUE..GENUINE reasons, which are being expressed by this lady right here.
@Knappa22
@Knappa22 18 күн бұрын
Thatcher signed the Single European Act in 1987 that amended the Treaty of Rome to set up the European Single Market and thence the free movement of goods, services and people across the community.
@merseybeat1963
@merseybeat1963 18 күн бұрын
@@Knappa22 Did Thatcher support the EEC? Britain eventually joined the ERM on 5 October, under Lawson's replacement as chancellor John Major. The political decision ultimately led to Thatcher's resignation and replacement by Major, who came to prominence for his role in the ERM decision. Thatcher became increasingly sceptical of the EEC after her resignation.
@Knappa22
@Knappa22 18 күн бұрын
@@merseybeat1963 She often spoke tough but folded when it came to treaties and EEC advancement. I very much doubt she would have supported brexit in 2016 as she was ultimately a pragmatist and an economic realist.
@merseybeat1963
@merseybeat1963 17 күн бұрын
@@Knappa22 judging from this interview and how farther in the UK progressively got she would have supported Brexit absolutely. She was not a dictator it was not all down to her
@Knappa22
@Knappa22 17 күн бұрын
​@@merseybeat1963 I disagree. She did not condone breaking treaties, especially *four* as seismic as Lisbon, Nice, Amsterdam, and Maastricht. Her position: “Britain does not break Treaties. It would be bad for Britain, bad for our relations with the rest of the world and bad for any future treaty on trade we may need to make.” We were in a new paradigm by 2016 and if you think a total pragmatist like Thatcher would have supported Brexit at the cost (to date) of *£140 billion* you are gravely mistaken. Ultimately she understood realities: “When you enter into international treaties you voluntarily give up a certain part of your sovereignty, because perhaps you are pooling it with others, because that is the way it has to be done in a world which is very multinational.” - Thatcher.
@ThomasWilliams89
@ThomasWilliams89 Ай бұрын
A fantastic woman. The Iron Lady!
@johnjames6620
@johnjames6620 Ай бұрын
And she was so right about the EU!
@morgansifer
@morgansifer 5 ай бұрын
She was just absolutely marvellous wasn't she.
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
No
@mihaelatudor2417
@mihaelatudor2417 5 ай бұрын
I would like to hear now the opinion of that interviewer about the long term vision expressed by Mrs Thatcher 😊
@georgevladimirovich7190
@georgevladimirovich7190 6 ай бұрын
Those were the times when leadership meant something and was carried out by statesmen instead of the lame duck idiots we have today in the western world. Maybe they were not entirely liked but the direction was clear for everybody to see.
@danh5637
@danh5637 3 ай бұрын
She was right about everything all of the time.
@peteroneill2991
@peteroneill2991 3 ай бұрын
Stop reading the express and mail, it's bad for your IQ.
@danh5637
@danh5637 3 ай бұрын
@@peteroneill2991 that’s not how IQ works dear.
@anthonywhite-wt9qx
@anthonywhite-wt9qx 4 ай бұрын
Have a little bit more faith in your fellow Countrymen. Typical Thatcher!! Couldn't help but laugh!!
@poetlaureate7334
@poetlaureate7334 5 ай бұрын
What a damn woman. Margaret 💙
@kuribojim3916
@kuribojim3916 2 ай бұрын
In some sense I think Thatcher inadvertently predicted Brexit here. She talks about Europe being a collection of nation states who cooperate, while emphasising the importance of national sovereignty over key decisions and policy. That makes sense to me. We have seen other examples historically (even related to the founding of the USA) where the more distant the power structure from the people, the more unstable the entire edifice becomes. Remember the old saying "taxation without representation"? I think this is all part of the same story, more or less. There's a lot of value in close cooperation and especially common markets. These things are very useful. But generally speaking, centralisation of power is often not a great idea. It's less workable because it is, by definition, less representative of the people and their wishes. Parliaments, in general, should be as close to their constituents as possible. I think that's the lesson.
@MagicNash89
@MagicNash89 28 күн бұрын
Problem with your thinking is that there are many pathways to "ever closer Union", and the most radical ones want a FEDERATION, not a centralized state, and even their support numbers are not very high at best. Thatcher contributed to Brexit a lot, along with a few other Tories, but it doesn't look good now with Russia being aggressive again and the British regretting the Leave vote according to the polls quite decisively.
@kuribojim3916
@kuribojim3916 28 күн бұрын
@@MagicNash89 I'm not sure what problem in my thinking you've identified here. It looks to me like we're saying the same thing for the most part. I'm actually not sure that Thatcher would have agreed with Brexit itself. I'm just talking about the general principle of cooperation and how there's a reasonable middle ground that sits between outright federation and complete isolationism.
@syedadeelhussain2691
@syedadeelhussain2691 6 ай бұрын
Thatcher was a conviction politician. Her views on the single currency and monetary union were correct. But, Brexit is a bit extreme in my opinion.
@123brownjames
@123brownjames 6 ай бұрын
I agree
@pipoo1
@pipoo1 6 ай бұрын
She’d never have backed Brexit, and most of her concerns about monetary union were addressed at later treaties with the UK gaining exemptions along with Sweden and Denmark.
@PozoBlue
@PozoBlue 2 ай бұрын
Brexit was a reaction to the excesses of the EU. If she had been there, she would've resisted those excesses and so possibly no brexit
@wilsonfisk6626
@wilsonfisk6626 Ай бұрын
Very principled person outside of politics.
@VincentRE79
@VincentRE79 4 ай бұрын
We certainly need someone like Thatcher now, not a Sunak or Starmer in these challenging times.
@borjeelf7254
@borjeelf7254 26 күн бұрын
And today we see the consequences of Brexit. Britain is a relatively small country globally. The big dragons the USA, China and now the EU are the big players. The EU is probably one of Britain's biggest markets for both exports and imports. Then tricking people into pushing the country out of the EU could turn out to cost them dearly. But the lady deserves all respect!
@monoecumsemper
@monoecumsemper 3 ай бұрын
Difference of Great Britain from the rest of "Europe": Maggie at her best. She couldn't be more correct !
@MagicNash89
@MagicNash89 28 күн бұрын
Were the British THAT different from the ones "on the continent" in WW2? What was the name of the bloke who went to Munich and proclaimed "peace for our time"? I do hate Thatcher's rabid anti-Europeanism.
@app1esuk
@app1esuk 4 ай бұрын
32 mins 00 seconds to 33.40 is a prime example of the issue of politics today. They argue over the insignifcant little things, rather than the serious issues affecting the public.
@ktheodor3968
@ktheodor3968 5 ай бұрын
Just to put this in: every bloody country in the world thinks of its self, its history, its psyche as *unique* . Nothing that much different (from other countries) about us, Britain. Secondly, we are now out of the EU, and for many that was an affirmation of our independence, but since 1945 we have made ourselves so needy of, so reliant upon the United States. Britain on the worldstage, as the US's second and minor fiddle. For instance, "Britain’s" nuclear deterrent is of little to no use at all out of the shadow and good care of the United States'. Upto Mrs T's time, the United States' domestic politics were shaped by (at least relatively) cool, sensible heads and pragmatism. Mrs T never got to know Trump, Trumpism. Good luck to us Britain now in our traditional tight latch onto the US of Donald Trump & Trumpism. For even if (IF!) Trump doesn't get his 2nd term, there's *plenty* of Trumpism in the Republican party and Congress to shape and make a lot of US's foreign policy, including how the US sees Britain. Or, ask the Ukrainians what's like dealing with Trumpism in Congress. Still, just as well we, Britain, "re-gained" our independence having left the EU.
@MultiVince95
@MultiVince95 6 ай бұрын
Friday 22nd November 1991
@phantomiv8045
@phantomiv8045 5 ай бұрын
She is so remarkable. A kind of 20th century Elizabeth I
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
Well, she certainly thought she was.
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
People were in awe of her. As a kid she seemed to be a domineering, hectoring narrow minded, bloodyminded idealist. When she came out of the door at no 10 to announce, “We have had a grandchild,” we knew she was bonkers.
@michaelburling
@michaelburling 3 ай бұрын
She actually said "We are a grandmother."
@seansmith445
@seansmith445 2 ай бұрын
Yes, she was more like a Queen than a Prime Minister. She was magnificent! Though in hindsight some of her policies were wrong.
@Hertfordshire247
@Hertfordshire247 5 ай бұрын
She never cared what people thought of her and she ate people for breakfast anyone who dared challenged her on her positions and didn't have the facts or knowledge. The "wets" of which the Tories are now full of. Heseltine always springs to mind and it makes me sleep better at night knowing she lived rent free in his head. If only she has been around for Brexit. The likes of Von-Derlayen (or whatever her name is) and those so-called European politicians would've been decimated by her. Farage gave us a taste of how things might've looked has she of been there.
@pettytyrant2720
@pettytyrant2720 3 ай бұрын
Except Thatcher was broadly pro-EU and would never have taken us out of the single market. Her issues were with funding and shifts of sovereignty to a centralised power, she was a total champion of the trade part however and fought tooth and nail for UK interests when it came to trade.
@Britishtraditions
@Britishtraditions 26 күн бұрын
I hope Starmer is listening to Maggie's words & thinking hard about them. Because his father the tool make would have been running his factory when she was in power. So it's because of her beliefs that got him his education. So to take down her picture is a betrayal of his father. Shame on you Starmer
@Knappa22
@Knappa22 18 күн бұрын
The share of manufacturing in UK GDP fell from 28% in 1979 to 21% by 1992. So Starmer’s father’s factory remained in business *despite* Thatcher rather than because of her.
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
32:20 “No. It’s a year today since I resigned.” 😟🤪
@merseybeat1963
@merseybeat1963 23 күн бұрын
What's the best you have today Kemy Babanoch..? She is still a novice at this point. Some of the more seasoned solid people were actually not even voted in by they're constituencies this time around which shows the poor judgement of the citizens.
@taliblond7597
@taliblond7597 3 ай бұрын
The last “British” (as opposed to “European”) GB politician…
@Pablo260492
@Pablo260492 3 ай бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@lordtherapeutics
@lordtherapeutics 13 күн бұрын
What weak weasels we have now.
@АНТИКВАРНЫЙвлог
@АНТИКВАРНЫЙвлог 3 ай бұрын
2:39 beard Mrs Thatcher :0
@henrywilson979
@henrywilson979 3 ай бұрын
Since when we all become friends suddenly and we think about our liberty. Read pan erupa book for more details. It is written by mr kalergi
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
Referenda are always divisive. Especially when the result is as close as brexit was.
@matthowardtv
@matthowardtv 6 ай бұрын
former language divides, and lack of travel, and the right people travel, and converse, trickle down culture affects the way we can see each other
@MrJohnfoster70
@MrJohnfoster70 4 ай бұрын
And shes the reason our oil money was wasted. Norway made a sovereign wealth fund. Thatcher broke us.
@scotlandtheinsane3359
@scotlandtheinsane3359 3 ай бұрын
She did that because the Scottish Nationalists would have had a claim over it.. Not forgetting her monetary policies caused a lot of unemployment for a number of years..
@khairulnaeim756
@khairulnaeim756 Ай бұрын
Kiss hand... yeah maybe 🤔 wonder
@electricalgrinds
@electricalgrinds 5 ай бұрын
A lot of kind words on here. She was devisive and put money above all. She affected a lot of lives through her actions...most for the worst and a lot of her chickens are now coming home to roost like railway's water housing etc etc.
@kiransingh9510
@kiransingh9510 5 ай бұрын
Better than tharisa may
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
31:55 what do you think? Did she still think she would come back again as Prime Minister, because of this issue? She had already demonstrated that she had been in power so long that she saw herself as a sort of monarch.
@nicksmith128
@nicksmith128 Ай бұрын
When I think of a female president, this is who I want!
@pipoo1
@pipoo1 6 ай бұрын
She’d never have supported Brexit, you’d be deluded to even think that and she’d have called it out just as her other senior surviving ministers have done.
@melgrant7404
@melgrant7404 5 ай бұрын
But she was not pro Europe.
@danielearley5062
@danielearley5062 5 ай бұрын
Why not? Did you not listen to her speaking about how parliament was the centre of, and key to our democracy? She would have fought for it and put out a much clearer case.
@globaltraveller
@globaltraveller 5 ай бұрын
She was totally wrong on Europe as history has now demonstrated without any shadow of a doubt. Brexit was the last act of Thatcher's anti-European stance and we all now pay dearly indeed for such folly. To paraphrase Thatcher herself. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
@Wackospackos
@Wackospackos 5 ай бұрын
She wasn’t totally wrong at all, she supported free trade with Europe but she didn’t want a federal Europe. Brexit doesn’t prove anything about her stance as it wasn’t her stance which was followed.
@xelakram
@xelakram 5 ай бұрын
Very well said! We are all paying the price of Thatcher's delusions of grandeur.
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Sadly you’re so right😢
@PhthaloJohnson
@PhthaloJohnson 4 ай бұрын
@@Wackospackos This interview was 30 years ago now, I think it's a mistake to overthink what she did or did not say. One thing she was wrong about is that the world is ruled by international trade, not blocks. In 2024, it's clear this is totally wrong, then again times changed so much since then.
@MrOliver1444
@MrOliver1444 3 ай бұрын
She made a lot of mistakes. Selling council houses and not building new ones, Selling the silverware (oil to foreign countries), taking power away from Unions (no wage growth in the last 13 years), and not being in the Euro which would make trade so much easier and British exceptionalism, Tory austerity alongside with immigration caused Brexit. Britain stands alone, and Northern Ireland and Scotland long for independence or reunification.
@davideyres955
@davideyres955 2 ай бұрын
You clearly don’t study history and have a lack of understanding of facts. She did make mistakes, however on right to buy you are wrong. During her premiership the government built more council houses on average each year than New Labour did in their entire time in government. If you research her interviews you will see one where she actually argues for unions because she believed in balance, to little union influence is just as bad as too much. If you think the Euro is a great idea then you’ve not looked at the treatment of Italy, having a technocrat government installed by Europe and the current neutering of their elected government by the authority of the ECB. She believes in democracy and the power of the people and the failure to ask the people about removing their power and giving it away is what led to Brexit. Austerity was completely correct as will be demonstrated by the impending problems that America will face due to its ballooning debt issues and was demonstrated as correct by Liz Truss through her reckless budget. However the government failed to take advantage of the investment opportunities that facilitated by reduced borrowing that created. As for selling the silverware, she used the proceeds of the oil sale to rebalance the economy to get us out of the debt crisis we were in thanks to the Labour government of the 70s with its socialist policies that left the UK as the basket case of Europe. She believed in personal freedom and balance, not to little state or too much. The recent epic failure of the Tory government and New Labour governments has been due to failure to observe that principle and to hear the mood of the electorate. Europe is heading towards power concentrated by the central bank in the hands of unelected technocrats and the chess pieces are and have been moved slowly so that the people don’t see it. We are in the end game and there is still a chance to win, but with the current government we are very vulnerable to being check mated. She sure as hell didn’t get it right quite allot, but she was right about a great many things.
@MrOliver1444
@MrOliver1444 2 ай бұрын
@@davideyres955 she was right by supporting being part of the EU but selling council houses and selling the right to private oil companies to explore oil was a big mistake
@colinwinterman
@colinwinterman 21 күн бұрын
yeah, but apart from that mate, what yer trying to say
@abelromero8967
@abelromero8967 3 ай бұрын
I continue to disagree with her completely. I think this view of 'losing sovereignty' only makes sense if you're a free market fundamentalist. You can affect industry within your borders, but common trade and treaties mean the government has more of a responsibility to manage them and deal with the fallout from international markets for better and worse. You can invest in your own domestic industries for - China being prime example. But if you're an anti-government fundamentalist, then you really have no tools left after those trade or other legal barriers are down. It's a lack of active management that's the problem.
@gileschance952
@gileschance952 5 ай бұрын
Thatcher was a very ignorant person. She was narrowly educated, as a scientist, knew nothing about history, economics or literature, and her understanding of international affairs reflected a childhood admiration of Rudyard Kipling and GA Henty. Her main focus was on defeating the forces of socialism, which meant destroying the north of England which she associated with miners and the Labour party. She had a very strong character, and successfully boosted the Conservative Party, which had lost all credibility by the time she arrived on the scene in 1979. She destroyed Britain's manufacturing base in her first term, by becoming a slave of Milton Friedman and monetarism. This meant interest rates at 20% for a long time and two dollars to one pound, which made exporting impossible for British companies. She became a caricature of herself and lasted for too long. Blair's later success as Labour leader was partly due to his imitation of her techniques, which notably included ruthlessness. Thatcher was a very successful politician but a disaster for Britain. We need badly to move on from Thatcherism.
@xelakram
@xelakram 5 ай бұрын
We do need to move on from Thatcherism. Thatcherism would be an absolute disaster for Britain in the present day. As you say, she really understood nothing about economics. She destroyed British industry. Because of her policies, we now have a HUGE gap between the rich the poor, between the haves and the have-nots. And regards the EU, Thatcher casts a long, dark shadow,
@TimBaker-sq3ln
@TimBaker-sq3ln 5 ай бұрын
1. Mrs. Thatcher won a scholarship to Oxford University. knew Latin and quoted Tennyson in interviews after she left office.You said she knew nothing about economics, but later you mentioned Friedman’s monetaristism. Your logic is inconsistent. 2. As for the British manufacturing industry you mentioned. Niall Ferguson's answer ‘ Could Michael Foot and Arthur Scargill's partnership revitalize UK manufacturing? ‘ 3. You say that Britain wants to get rid of Thatcherism, so what doctrines do you have that Britain can adopt? Social democracy?
@JupiterThunder
@JupiterThunder 5 ай бұрын
Complete garbage. And Kipling won the Nobel Prize for Literature.
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
Very well put. Couldn’t agree more
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
@@JupiterThunderyes but Kiplings politics were repulsive. He was a Faschist and supported the Nazi party. Thatcher was an ideologue who had a warped vision of Britain based on an arrogant post-colonial superiority. That’s why she quoted people like Kipling.
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
39:39 “Whatever happened to the British lion?” I’ll tell you, Margaret. The British lion got old, came through two world wars and, in 1945, had to wake up finally to the 20th century reality that it was no longer a colonial superpower and it better learn to negotiate at the table, to act like a grown up and develop diplomatic relationships with Europe, in order to be a part of the future of Europe, or be left behind.
@xelakram
@xelakram 5 ай бұрын
It's no wonder we have a problem with Europe and the EU today. Listening to this woman talking shows any sane person that her views were valid in the 1940s, but are wholly inappropriate for today. Bring on a federal Europe! Let us embrace the euro! Let us take our place in the EU! Let us be on the top table again! Thatcher was fit for the Eighties, maybe, but not for the 2020s. Let the lady rest in peace!
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
It’s not one or the other. We had a good half way house. But we’ve trashed it
@xelakram
@xelakram 5 ай бұрын
@@MeMyself-jz9ms Yes, the Brexiteers have trashed it. We will never get all those opt-outs again, even if the EU does eventually allow us back.
@gregjones-x8c
@gregjones-x8c 4 ай бұрын
EUSSR.....a European Soviet Union....no thanks!
@xelakram
@xelakram 4 ай бұрын
@@gregjones-x8c I see that you have been brainwashed.
@chrisgeorgiou8680
@chrisgeorgiou8680 4 ай бұрын
Her socioeconomic views and policies were no doubt correct, and actually spectacularly successful, as she reversed Britain's almost constant decline (proof: later embraced or even copied by numerous countries), however her image was finally tarnished due to her stubbornness (insisting on that poll tax, causing her resignation and paving the way for the New Labour) and her absolute views on matters like Europe and the Special Relationship with the US. Got special arrangements, opt-outs, rebates and exceptions (yes, even satisfying the British exceptionalism!) from the EU. These so much divided and even poissoned the public opinion, that finally the country got out of the EU and the Single Market, its largest trade partner, throwing all the above out of the window. Got a rather unfavourable trade pact from the US...
@timhandley7408
@timhandley7408 4 ай бұрын
But lets also remember she was the architect of the European single market which provided the prosperity to Britain she craved for 30 years
@michaelmarzano2759
@michaelmarzano2759 2 ай бұрын
The best PM of any generation.The people of the UK were completely bonkers getting rid of her.
@seansmith445
@seansmith445 2 ай бұрын
Well it's well known that she never lost an election. Her own colleagues got rid of her not the people.
@lui.s.e7400
@lui.s.e7400 6 күн бұрын
We desperately need someone like her at the present moment, to try and pull Britain back from the brink of utter ruin.
@jackkiernan5950
@jackkiernan5950 14 күн бұрын
Maggie is the diamond that still shines so brightly, 1 million times better than any modern day politician and PM ♥️
@damiano_ferraro
@damiano_ferraro 6 ай бұрын
Prophecy at 29:55
@cjon6898
@cjon6898 4 ай бұрын
She is so eloquent and I enjoy listening to her, even though I may not share her politics.
@gvbrandolini
@gvbrandolini 6 ай бұрын
Interessante
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
Yes. This is where the brexit madness began 😒
@1aikane
@1aikane 6 ай бұрын
Her and Reagan were a pair. Conservatism 😕😞
@JupiterThunder
@JupiterThunder 5 ай бұрын
And UK and US were much stronger back then, in every way.
@1aikane
@1aikane 5 ай бұрын
@@JupiterThunder yes because the full effects of their poisonous policies took time to unfold. They were amplified as time progressed
@pipoo1
@pipoo1 6 ай бұрын
Thatcher’s great domestic legacy of course was the explosion of working class home ownership that occurred in the late 70s and 1980s, it continued rising through the 1990s and 00s under Blair. It’s a mark of the how far removed from her the rotten corpse of the present “Tory” Government is that since 2010 the percentage of Brits how own their home has fallen from 73% to 50% in 2024, its plummeted a whole 10% while Sunak has been PM. Like all of the surviving Thatcherites even she would’ve deserted them by now.
@MeMyself-jz9ms
@MeMyself-jz9ms 5 ай бұрын
Yes. I’d like to think she was more economically astute than the current crop of ideological imbeciles. However I think you can’t escape the reality that the madness did start with thatcher. It was an integral part of her own independent and individualistic, anti-cooperative ideology. It was based on a false image of British superiority, a sort of post- colonial arrogance.
@peteroneill2991
@peteroneill2991 3 ай бұрын
With a demise in council house building that is still plaguing our country.
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