Marillion - Alice

First version. The singer is Doug Irvine (79/80 in the band). Fish change the lyrics and rename the song like "Snow Angel".
Note: Part of the song is used finally in "Forgotten Sons".

[@carl13220]

All the magic is already here. Unbelievable !

[@dgcmusi]

Yes I hear forgotten sons in the end. Thank you so much for sending me this rare gem. you must have some connection somewhere to have gotten this. You can hear the lack of refinement they had in their playing back in those days. I am a huge Mariiion fish era fan. The new music since the days of "Easter" just does not do it for me. I feel fish needs them and they need fish. I really feel this will happen one day. David Castagna

[@МирМай-ф8ч]

Doug Irvine on vocal , beautiful !

[@fatherbumble]

It was and is Kelly and Rothery that hit the deep angst in my favorite songs. Then either Fish or Hogarth (or both) added an element we continue to love deeply. Thank all of you for the music.

[@garystoessel2806]

Bought this on a bootleg tape of demos in the early 80s, still a great version.......

[@TheAntopia83]

Ma quanto è magnifica!!!!😢

[@PCmaatje]

Thanks for uploading! I didn't even know about this song, but it's great! Indeed a lot of familiar tunes known from 'Forgotten Sons'.

[@babboon5764]

Go find and listen to 'Grendel' (Its on here somewhere) ........ Its presages several of their later pieces. Curiously enough this version of Alice partly presages bits of Grendel. I guess it was sort of a cumulative thing for Marillion when they were setting out.

[@PCmaatje]

@@babboon5764 I do know Grendel! I saw it being played live by the Steve Rothery Band, last Autumn. Happy me!! :)

[@davidstarkey3002]

Marillion is Marillion.enjoy the history & the future.

[@chriscarroll50]

I remember getting my hands on a double tape of these demos / bootlegs ( old D90) from a market near Aylesbury, was totally sold over to the sound ! As for the Fish v Hogarth thing I'm sure there were Irvine v Fish " debates too, Fish was the mic guy during my adolescent phase so I'm more inclined to be partial toward him and his solo start was hampered by EMI which lead to the acidity of Vigil !

[@peterberglund6368]

Hints of Script!❤🎉

[@avvidezzi]

A little bit of history here, mate. Thanks for taking the time to upload this!

[@glengooner74]

Forgotten Sons ! :)

[@fishintheflow]

Bloody hell, I used to have this on tape from a mate at Lincoln Itec....its been many moons :-D

[@RaymondPotter]

Great memories, Still a great band!

[@ShadowsKing1976]

@silmarillionsstart You really are a expert in Marillion. Why you know all this things on the beggining of the band. Greetings from Chile.

[@silmarillionsstart]

I can't believe you have this! I used to love this song.

[@OetteTV]

am ende forgotten sons Teil...??? zu geil die alte Aufnahme DANKE

[@fishintheflow]

wow, someone has "fish out of water" :oD Havnt heard this since a mate had it at Lincoln Itec back in the 80s

[@babboon5764]

The curious thing is that Doug Irvine, 'tho he formed the band with Mick Pointer has been virtually airbrushed out. If you doubt it go see Wikipedia - even there it states 'Fish was the first singer for Marillion'. And how many folk had heard of Mick Pointer for that matter - I'd probably been listening to Marillion for the best part of 3 decades before I heard of either of 'em. There's an interminable squabble around 'Hogarth's not as good as Fish' and 'Fish was the original'. Well now you know. Fish wasn't the original. Ironic innit? For all that, I was gutted when he left and really resented Hogarth for years. But after listening a few times to the live version of 'When I meet God' I've decided actually, the bloke's alright. Picking up on another note of ShadowsKing1976 intro comment (above), where he notes 'Part of this song's used in forgotten sons'. ........ Well, its used in Grendel too. In fact you can pick out several of their later pieces in Grendel (and also a surprising chunk of Genisis as well). If you haven't head Grendel give yourself a treat. You'll find it on You Tube somewhere .... IF you're stuck for a Christmas list suggestion you'll find it on (but only on) Marillion's 'B'Sides' themselves. [**** I should get *commission* for this]! ;-p

[@peterberglund2882]

He really was not first

[@FerMagee]

I have just discovered it reading a book called Marillion in the 80's by Nathaniel Webb. Then, I came to search for this song

[@peterberglund6368]

No he was not the first singer at all!

[@Spacelovetimer]

Weren't they called Silmarillion at this stage??

[@peterberglund2882]

Yes that right!☺ Silmarillion!

[@ShadowsKing1976]

@killzer48 Search in the page morain.de/Marillion/02Setlists-1980.html In theFirst show of Marillion. The bassist is Doug Irvine (is bassist and singer). Greeting.

[@silmarillionsstart]

Hands up if you remember the old sales pitch - 'If your tshirt's full of fleas, and it's hanging round your knees Get yourself a super one Buy it from Marillion!!!' We did have some fun.......

[@mawgojzeta]

Very interesting. Thank you for posting!

[@ralfhansw]

There is an CD called "Haunters having lot of Fun".You can find all the old Songs on it....

[@ralfhansw]

There is an CD called "Haunters having lot of Fun":you can find all this old Songs on it!!!!

[@ShadowsKing1976]

Search in Google Blogs like "Forgotten Songs".

[@vivelavidarocka]

Thanks for sharing. I love Marillion. And this is a great fucking song.

[@peterberglund2882]

Yes thats right! Silmarillion! ☺

[@ralfhansw]

YYYEEEESSSS!

[@agnessormatt]

meravigliosa !

[@jakubpik9173]

no poezja!!!ale wszystko co genialne powstało w prymitywnych warunkach

[@killzer48]

Do u have any pics of the old singer?

[@peterberglund2882]

Ha Ha Ha Really!

[@mikkorenko]

Grrrrrrreat!!

[@TheAntropus]

Wow! Muito bom!

[@Xanaseb]

@silmarillionsstart mellotron

[@fhs8807]

ty

[@millsy2010]

Tell you what would've improved that song, some sustained chords ;-)

[@silmarillionsstart]

Yes, it is a mellatron. It was beautiful and much loved and much better than the novatron which replaced it.

[@ania6963]

Piekny utwor

[@Possesssed666]

Great music, but this just doesn't sound right without Fish

[@forestdad]

Fair enough. I still hurt LOL

[@mollybloom5681]

This is very raw indeed. Not a great song. Interesting though where my favorite band came from.

[@denverlansilva9098]

marillion is hogarth and fish

[@xof2484]

Marillion c'est un groupe. On a une période avec Fish. Période courte, intense, fabuleuse, puis est arrivé H. Il a fallu du temps au groupe pour retrouver une symbiose. Ils ont sortis des albums magiques, d'autres moins fort.Mais Marillion c'est Marillion. On aime écouter, ou on passe à autre chose. Mais merci de ne pas cracher sur ce groupe

[@marttini7]

Shut up you all, Marillion is KELLY!

[@7zzzzzzz]

Oh my god I remember having this on cassette tape. I wish they were still doing this kind of stuff. Even Doug Irvine is better than H!

[@wildviolet3973]

Not funny. Hogarth is their best vocalist, obviously.

[@alm5966]

Marillion is Hogarth! Good one, that's like saying Genesis were better after Hackett.

[@glengooner74]

No where near the same since fish left !!

[@beccaandcallumsdad]

Marillion IS Hogarth !! Fish was just a warm up act til H arrived.

[@martinvanella6578]

Pffff, Marillion sin Fish no existe.

[@yannprioli3770]

Martín Vanella d accord a 100 %

[@TheTemplier1118]

@ Andydy Smith : ok guy. Are you 10yo ?

[@blueboy4life]

Andy Smith Marillion is irvine, Fish n hogarth a tribute band in that case Andy, cheers

[@goalkeepersgift]

Marillion is Marillion just like Iron Maiden is Iron Maiden, end of story. History and the future go hand in hand.