Marine Helicopter Located In California As Search Ongoing For 5 Missing

[@jeremyg5608]

We train like we fight, all weather, all day.

[@SpclOps20]

A little rain and a light breeze are no reason to cancel a training flight. This is the Marine Corps, not the Girl Scouts.

[@Holiday_Ringo]

Who wouldve every anticipated a river, in the sky😳

[@jeremyg5608]

@@realmistermischief Are you a Marine? I am.

[@azb2605]

⁠@@jeremyg5608 no, but he plays one in his video games 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@el.aye.bee.4477]

@@jeremyg5608, you're a marine? Prove it. Who's your daddy?

[@SV-nk2we]

My prayers go out to the loved ones of these brave soldiers. Thank you for your service.

[@235buz]

They are Marines, not soldiers.

[@donnarupert4926]

That’s right!!! NOT soldiers, United States Marines.

[@sqd37l]

@@donnarupert4926 now mop that squad bay, marine!

[@billl7551]

He said it crashed - - good to know, sad to hear. No such thing as routine training in a helicopter. Prayers for the Marines.

[@bustabusts]

That's a heavy lift helicopter the only way they would be training is if they were lifting thing which they were not. You do not trained flying around with Marines in the back. The helicopter also has three separate engines and can pick up 50 times itself. Not a combat helicopter its logistics.

[@Sam-le6sp]

Just because its a heavy lift helo does NOT mean the werent training. Many aspects of training have little to do with the 53's primary use,, besides, the were RETURNING from a training mission.@@bustabusts

[@alison5009]

We knew a Marine that died years ago during training with a helicopter. So sad.

[@Wolf1377]

No such thing as routine training in a helicopter? All pilots need a specific number of training hours with specific maneuvers every month. That sounds like a routine to me.

[@timmojennings]

You are sheeple

[@gordonelwell7084]

Flights are coded by the mission they are supporting. For specific missions, there is a specific code (normally associated with some funding stream, or operational goal). The term "training flight" is a general catch-all term used to code flights not associated with any other specific mission or objective. This appeared to be a de-positioning mission to return the helicopter and crew from a deployed training location. These flights are often called a "training flight" because they are generally using flight hours associated with a training funding stream. In other words, a very generic, non specific mission. As far as approval, the pilot in command has the last word on if they should go. If the pilot says "no", they don't go (unless wartime, etc). At any rate, the specific weather forecast by the weather detachment should have provided enough detail on what they would face for the pilot to "make the call". One final thought . . . everyone is assuming the weather brought this helicopter down. It might have been the cause, or perhaps not . . . maybe just a contributing factor. Aircraft crash in good weather too. All of this is just speculation. When the accident investigation board conducts their inquiry, there will be an in-depth study of everything from crew decision making, weather forecast, condition of the aircraft, and countless other factors. Until then, comments here are just speculation. Except the "atmospheric river" crap. That is just the new scare term du jour.

[@SpclOps20]

_”I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids”_

[@jamesa7506]

Probably the most coherent and intelligent comment concerning this flight op so far. Speculation is a roommate of misdirection in the house of gossip, never let them rent space in your head.

[@kailaniandi]

'Atmospheric river'=a natural storm system like always been happening.😉

[@yettimannettii2039]

Historic atmospheric river lol Media hype as usual. Could there have been ice build up on or in the helo somewhere?

[@MOMO41837]

@@jamesa7506 You have a flair for the obvious You're a walking cliche And remember, if you decide to respond, just keep in mind that profanity is a crutch for inarticulate motherf-ckers...

[@lorrainemiale467]

Sad......prayers for the families..... Heroes!

[@Trapmint]

Prayers going out to the marines

[@critterallywithjohnernest.]

I can't tell you how many times i went up in the ch46 and ch53 but we never once thought about if it wasn't safe. When you are young death never even crosses your mind. Sorry to hear about the loss of my brothers.🙏

[@David-p7z9n]

I logged about 330 hours in Marine helicopters, 1983-87. I’m lucky.

[@MiloMilo-z7t]

In bad weather??

[@David-p7z9n]

@@MiloMilo-z7t Rarely flew in bad weather, avoided unless we got stuck in it. Helicopters are almost impossible in IMC (I was a fly aboard mechanic “crewchief”)

[@carriea8917]

Prayers!!❤

[@thunderbird1921]

Why in the world would you risk an expensive transport helicopter, and more importantly Marines' lives, for a training mission during a historically bad storm? Either this was not a normal flight or it was the most reckless decision-making by the leadership imaginable.

[@jeremyg5608]

It is a combat helicopter.

[@anthonylagunas6737]

You train how you fight.

[@chrismaggio7879]

You have to train like you would fight, and sometimes that means treacherous situations or night time. This is so sad, but it will have them rethinking the training for a little while, then go back to it. RIP and Semper Fi

[@gailcarey3597]

My questions exactly!

[@unitedrealtalk5087]

Because in times of war, bad weather happens, you fool

[@danielmoose1273]

I hope they find the crew chilling at In-N-Out.

[@davidgarbersr.8065]

Ya mean, a winter storm. Quit making up words and terms.

[@JoJo-oc2zp]

Obviously you have not heard about the "Pineapple Express" that originates near Hawaii. Or watched the news.. We get very little rain here in Los Angeles. But this huge storm pounded California with torrential rains, non stop for two days and two nights. Your sarcasm is ignorant, rude, and uncaring.

[@James_the_Builder]

100 year storm

[@zerogstormz4444]

​@@JoJo-oc2zphouses are destroyed every year. Life's are lost every year. Grounds flood, roads get washed away, land slides. Happens every fucking year in California

[@jakerazmataz852]

@@JoJo-oc2zp And they still took off.

[@acgillespie]

@@JoJo-oc2zp prepare for the 33 days n 33 nights event to come. scary very scary

[@GenXvanlife69]

Training in inclement weather is part of preparing for war in any conditions. ✌️🙏🇺🇸

[@cuautemoctgo]

right wwll was almost impossible to see aircrafts carrier even takeoff or landing. US is always preparing for impossible.

[@mikemitchell8329]

SEMPER Fi my brothers and sisters, may God protect you all

[@danielleclare2938]

Not exactly. Operations are routinely grounded during bad weather. This was not necessary.

[@disgruntledconservativevet1798]

⁠@@danielleclare2938who routinely grounds them? Who makes that call?

[@heretowitness]

Apparently these types of helicopters are not safe to fly in “bad” weather?? It’s either That or mission accomplished?!

[@pattyandersen5516]

A very sad loss. RIP hero Marines.

[@alienbotfarm187]

Real hero, cant get through training 😂😂😂

[@LovelyJesus07]

@@alienbotfarm187 there is something really wrong with you

[@alienbotfarm187]

@@LovelyJesus07 I'm not the one who drove a helicopter into a storm. Then crashed and killed 5 people. So what is wrong with me?

[@DoNotTredOnMe]

#GFY​@@alienbotfarm187

[@richardlincoln8438]

​@@alienbotfarm187 I am not a mental health professional so i am not authorized to say what is wrong with something like you.

[@EddieLaxton]

GOD BLESS THEM ALL AND THE FAMILY'S 🙏

[@marilynjackson5752]

I'm so sorry.

[@USMC-Sniper-0137]

Hope my brothers are ok.....

[@oanna1221]

Hopefully the team on board have wisdom. Common sense will to survive. Sempri fi! ? Do they have canopies with them in flight? 3 could be huffin it. Upsetting no word on the 5 members on board. Prayers they stronger then dirt. Have compass ☼ strong in sense of direction.

[@lisaroberts8556]

🇺🇸⚓️🙏

[@USMC-Sniper-0137]

Semper Fi @@oanna1221

[@resQ-av8r]

sadly Training is often more deadly than combat; it's what makes these crews good at the required tasks. Been across that ridge in weather so low that we didn't even see the 8fwy while flying just off the treetops with FLIR on ... let's hope they survived.

[@carolyndaniels386]

🇺🇸🙏🏾Prayers🙏🏾🇺🇸

[@denac4708]

That's what these brave souls do, they train in this so they can thrive in this. May GOD find it in his grace to save these soldiers and bring them home safe, AMEN.

[@stevenchristy3175]

Those winds were insane

[@norawithrow5999]

If it crashed, where are the men.

[@themonkster333]

My thoughts exactly?

[@Mila-lu4mb]

😥😥

[@youtubelicksmytaint7482]

probably 20 min from arriving at the base gate.

[@TheBella2u]

You meant Marines….There are female Marines.

[@TheIndecisiveWigWearer]

They didn't say they weren't found. They're just not disclosing any information because families must be notified.

[@puttentanesame6687]

DAMN. Miracle time...

[@billytheadult6247]

This is set to here. Our hearts and thoughts are with the family of the fallen marines

[@davidmc1489]

The 53 is a big dang helicopter. Crazy weather happening there too. Hope for the best but not hearing from them is very concerning.

[@GungaLaGunga]

because they need to train in bad weather too

[@cuautemoctgo]

sacrifice always bring opportunity to others to survive.

[@arizonamodelshop2512]

Pine Valley is not 100 miles from San Diego, more like 40-50 miles

[@charliematt4808]

AMAZING how long it takes to find a downed copter with ultra modern EPERB equipment….

[@kendallevans4079]

media/Government need to get the lies straight!

[@deantait8326]

Please Stop with this insane description of an “atmospheric river” bs. It’s a normal strong winter rain storm …. Who coined this idiotic term. I assume it was tested with focus groups… My sincere condolences for the Marines and their loved ones !!!

[@WendyQallab]

I don't understand why it had to go out in this awful weather.

[@jeandarnell1531]

But “atmospheric river” just sounds so much more woke and climaty weather changery. No wonder the military can’t get new recruits considering who’s running the show.

[@richardlincoln8438]

The Mainstream Truth Outlets need to have some sort of Booger Man to shake at the Great Unwashed. You know, Bomb Cyclone, Snowmageddon, that sort of make-believe.

[@richardlincoln8438]

​@@Plutogalaxy Your comment looks like a child with a crayon drawing on a wall. No one gives you any credence.

[@Sam-le6sp]

Same clowns 🤡🤡🤡who say every bit of ice on the road is "black ice"...

[@julianchavez9296]

My deepest condolences to the fathers and mothers of these marines.

[@PInk77W1]

I was on a helo platoon in MARINES back in the 80s. Flew In CH-53s only a few times.

[@davidk6157]

I was in Marine infantry back in 80s as well, stationed in Camp Pendleton, and never heard of helo platoon, and I flew in CH-46 and CH-53 many many times, during my 4 year enlistment

[@mtsky-tc6uw]

these helis fly well in bad weather

[@PInk77W1]

@@davidk6157 “C” 1/9 Weapons Platoon Camp Horno. We rode in helos or we walked. Other companys never took helos They took Motor T or CCAC Navy Air boats? 1987. So I guess technically we weren’t Called helo platoon. We were weapons platoon. But we flew in helos to and from our training Area.

[@wolfemanxd]

We used to have these on my ship in the Navy LHD7. My guess is they were taking supplies to help the storm.

[@JeepWrangler1957]

@@PInk77W1I’m an old 2531 1974-78. 1/9 was at Schwab on Okinawa then. It seems the 3rd MarDiv doesn’t exist anymore

[@zarahmclauren1459]

From Stars and Stripes: The CH-53E Super Stallion is the largest and heaviest helicopter in the military. It can move troops and equipment over rugged terrain in bad weather, including at night, according to the Marine Corps website.

[@Pilotc180]

Why the hell would they do a training flight during this weather at night ? This was not a rescue, I think some colonel needs to become a corporal

[@craigkemmerzell5741]

Prayers ❤

[@astarrr54]

A training mission when the weather was so bad? Things don't add up.

[@kailaniandi]

Sounds very suspicious

[@garygrant9612]

How many routine training missions in bad weather ended in crashes. In two years alot. It started with the formation on Chinooks landing in blowing snow. I know this aircraft from yesterday has deiceing on it's blades, but it can handle only so much iceing. If I had to guess, this is what brought it down.

[@bjodaddyo]

I'm surprised there was no distress signal or another chopper going along with this one. Hope they are all ok.

[@kendallevans4079]

FINALLY a news reporter says "wreckage"! Geeezzzz.......All these news outlets keep saying it was "found" but in what condition? Now we know!

[@annettepanther8419]

❤❤❤PRAYERS TO THE MARINES 🙏 🙏 🙏

[@hwh888]

That is my exact same question. Why find it necessary to do a training mission in absolutely horrible weather conditions? What is there to prove? How to crash a helicopter?

[@VeggyZ]

......what the hell is an "atmospheric river" - are they talking about rain???

[@damondiehl5637]

A strong weather system. It's sexier if you call it an "atmospheric river" or "cyclone bomb".

[@acgillespie]

@@damondiehl5637 We just simply always called them Storms in the good old days

[@gordbaker896]

Click bait for the Weather Guessers.

[@SpclOps20]

@VeggyZ - Right? These ladies are getting their panties up in a bunch because of a little rain! They are the same people who believe that men can breastfeed.

[@CodesInURFace]

No@@damondiehl5637

[@cdvoices]

They should have not signed off on this flight

[@asmithh2697]

I call B.S.!

[@williammoreno2378]

What the hell were they flying in this adverse weather front?

[@hwfranjr]

How can a military loose a hell,what kind of military do we have!!!!!!,

[@NeverAware]

Marines "if it aint raining, we aren't training"

[@Fedex4156]

It's NOT a CHOPPER. Also military personell don't WIN any medal. They earn it or are awarded it. Get it right.

[@acgillespie]

especially when they want to promote it for propaganda

[@vitbing]

Why , why would they fly a helicopter at night , in those conditions ,

[@leonblack2651]

Probably because when you're training for war, no one calls time out because it's night time.

[@davidsimmons7359]

Because Marines.

[@zulu03116929]

That’s what we do bro. If it ain’t raining we ain’t training.

[@itsAmeOFP]

@@davidsimmons7359if it ain’t rainin…

[@alienbotfarm187]

Because they suicidal...

[@VIKING33NY]

What was it carrying?!! Why is that not making the news?!!!

[@DavesNotHereMan-]

It seems like the majority of these tragedies always involves the marines. Several Osprey's crashing, the AAV sinking, and now this. What's up?

[@Yoronlyhp1]

So did they survive how else are they missing?

[@gameboy228]

I watched that grounded search and rescue chopper flying back into Gillespie Field at around 1 - 1:30am this morning. The storm was raging around that time and getting worse.

[@IsaiasGomez-z1d]

RIP MARINES

[@therealsongstress]

And why are we flying in this horrific weather

[@jakemclain5135]

Either they are alive living different identitys and relocated or they were somewhere or doing something that they werent supposed to and couldn't chance being back to base by a certain time and couldn't wait as the consequences of getting caught were worse than crashing.?

[@jakerazmataz852]

They aren't telling us about the passengers, because the next of kin hasn't been notified.

[@Shane-zl9ry]

RIP

[@8AD858D8]

Served as a 67November on the UH1H. This mission would have been scrubbed under these conditions. Mission readiness doesn't mean seeing how close you can get to killing your own troops.

[@מיכהחביב]

I hope they all feel better 🙏

[@JhonyCastellanos-p7s]

Training in and during one of the worst storms in history. Good job Sherlock.

[@eliottlindsey40]

This is crazy

[@cbrashsorensen]

What in the hell were they thinking flying in this weather. Would it have been a tragedy to stay in Vegas another 24 or 48 hours. No. So lives are lost now for ZERO reasons.

[@biketech60]

A lot of Comments here by civilians with no understanding of what our military must be prepared to do . Sometimes they are tasked with rescues in impossible conditions . The difficult we can do now , the impossible may take a little longer . USAF vet , Texas

[@seesafar9912]

Sincerest regards. Condolences to all.

[@tamm3757]

How sad…hope they are alive. 🙏🏻

[@hectorr6299]

Semper Fi!

[@d.ashgrove1247]

"Diversity, equity, and inclusion".

[@layndretti13]

Are they safe? We're they hurt

[@Mom99004]

Oh good. Closure for families. Very sorry for this accident

[@dalemckinnie6256]

If they have not said anything about survivors, that means nobody survived the crash. The real story here is why are they flying back to their base in stormy weather in the middle of the night.

[@joedirt8625]

Non Critical mission..exactly

[@fredlandry6170]

So sad.

[@AlchemyOfTheFourthKind]

It's pathetic and embarrassing. I hope the soldiers are okay, tho. Rip heli.

[@Yabbadabbadoo728]

I understand training in harsh weather for real life situations, but to train in a storm so bad that it will literally go down in in the history books is just flat out absurd. Whoever was responsible for sending these marines out in this weather is responsible for their deaths and should be held accountable.

[@maryrose4409]

I totally agree so sad

[@seanohare5488]

Definitely training in bad weather is one thing but training in record settings storm is another

[@emdee8840]

"atmospheric river"????? What freaking linguistic lunacy is that? Water in the air is called rain. Violent water in the air is called a storm.

[@ShepardAmbellas]

Our military is a failure to fly in that weather for no reason.

[@GeoffryWK]

First rule of flying I was told when I took a flying lesson in the late 60s when I was 16 was ""Always fly higher than the highest thing along your flight path". Hmmmm. They weren't IFR and the terrain radar wasn't working?

[@patricialopezleal]

Why are they flying under those conditions😡

[@ghostyboi9186]

We're losing more boys in peace time than we were losing in war time...

[@briancooper2112]

What about crew?

[@MilesCobbett]

What is with this "Atmospheric River" term that has suddenly become the favorite phrase of news spinners ?

[@danielpearson4972]

It is a phrase to push the Marxist politicians agenda.

[@mtsky-tc6uw]

media hype drama to scare old ladies,get ratings

[@Orcinus1967]

What happened to high and low pressure zones?

[@yettimannettii2039]

Historic atmospheric river? Wasn't last years snow storm historic?

[@stevenchristy3175]

Why they send them out in a storm like that smh

[@armadilllo]

"historic atmospheric river". way to push global whining without saying it. It's called weather or a storm.

[@UQRXD]

Atmospheric River a new make you be in fear term. No such thing.

[@kepckatherinec805]

It’s like weather guys calling fog a “marine layer.” I grew up near San Francisco. Fog was good enough of a term for those low hanging gray skies.

[@judithlauer]

This story is to me Impossible to Believe Impossible

[@mrtomdorn]

Helicopter NOT chopper.. goofball

[@PACbelltech1]

This was not pine valley. This is Campo- Buckman Springs area near lake Morena. . Only 3000 feet. He was flying way too low. Not much snow out there. Poor judgement on the pilots part. Still makes no sense why they cant find the crew. That area isnt rugged. Weird story all around.

[@johnperreault116]

You need to ramp up that panic porn about the atmospheric river. We expect mnore from you guys than just reading the teleprompter, need more emotion, more cow bell

[@lulumoon6942]

SRSLY It's a new weather warfare rhetoric for control and profit. 😮‍💨

[@mtsky-tc6uw]

yeah we are all gonna die or at least all the old ladies will be scared...

[@alison5009]

More cowbell!!!!

[@beverlyskurow7998]

Great decision by our military leaders to train in such bad weather now in California. No excuse for stupidity😢😢😢😢

[@acgillespie]

They went to Vegas to get their freaks on and needed to get back before formation - Sin city ya know

[@_DB.COOPER]

😝😂😂😂 Do you think war only occurs in good weather! You’ve never served your country in any capacity, guaranteed!

[@creamytacotv7257]

the commanding officer should be relieved, sending them in an atmospheric river with very limited visibility was a death sentence

[@jeffshriber6120]

Strange, not a necessary flight. Thoughts to families.

[@Walcingham509]

When you see abject incompetence at the highest levels you should think, diversity, inclussion and equity... maybe its time for the military to go back to promoting the most qualified...

[@glenfinston704]

You do need to consider your pilot these days in both civil and military aviation, perhaps woke insanity played a part?

[@Artoconnell]

ITs called rain. marines used to function in the rain. helicopters operate in the rain. DEI strikes again.

[@glenfinston704]

Not out of the realm of possibility. Not flying Alaska right now.

[@squid_fish]

Why fly in these conditions? 😢

[@lisaroberts8556]

Because the mission never takes a backseat regardless of weather 🇺🇸

[@AmyWhoLovesFlowers]

I’m really surprised a training flight was ordered to go into such inclement weather! I hope the families sue.

[@anthonylagunas6737]

You train how you fight.

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

Military members take on that risk when they sign up. There are no lawsuits. There is a standard death benefit payout to the family when these things happen. The amount of it is set by policy and law.

[@edjarrett3164]

What’s going on with Marine Aviation? The Osprey is a ticking time bomb, but the Marines continue to fly it and allow their brethren to die. The helo had no business flying with the weather and precip.. Exactly who is running their aviation and who is making cogent decisions about flying? As a pilot both GA and military, I’m saddened and appalled that these needless deaths are happening. Where is leadership? When is leadership going to be held accountable? USMC aviation is broken and someone needs to fix it.

[@edjarrett3164]

@ZzXZ636 That totally sucks. My heart and hopes are with you and all Marines working their ass off. Please know that are appreciated and revered. AF guy to my USMC guy, Semper Fi!

[@acgillespie]

200,000 in taxpayer money will provide a 200 dollar engine for the junk they assemble today

[@treasureseeker8489]

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE 💕💕💕💕💕!!!!!

[@MBBHMM]

While we slept. ♥️ 🙏🏾

[@bonnielucas3244]

Seems unnecessary to send a helicopter out in such awful weather just for training. I wish they had refused

[@sandrasibley1742]

They didn't know how to operate a radio