Marine's 30-Year-Old Brain Can't Keep Up With These Controls...

[@JakeTran141]

Can’t keep up with the fighting game controls, but plays touhou like a veteran, truly our 30-year-old auntie

[@Loner098]

What about RPGs?

[@Faramik2000]

well touhou is like 3 buttons max

[@lionelk.y7233]

​@@Faramik20003 buttons but with projectiles that makes a grappler main shat themselves at night

[@spoonSTGfan]

she plays decent

[@NickTheMemeDaddy]

Marine playing Touhou: No complaints or struggle. Marine playing any fighting game: Too many buttons! My memory isn’t like it used to be. I’ve gotta write this down

[@christiancinnabars1402]

Ask a fighting game world champion to play Touhou, and it's the same thing.

[@jcudejko]

I loved seeing her look around for a notepad 🤣🤣 For some reason I'm reminded of the line "where are my glasses" when they are resting on top of her head...

[@EduardoOliveira-qy1km]

Touhou players are the definition of "Be afraid of the person who practiced the same punch 1000 times"

[@lawliet617]

I mean touhou only needs 7 buttons including control button And you only need to avoid bullets with absolute precision While fighting games it requires you to memorize the command list for combos

[@ES21007]

... So what happens when she plays the Touhou fighting games?

[@NeuronActivation]

Senchou: "If I was hungry I'd eat the instructions manual" To satisfy her hunger as well as digesting the mechanics

[@Krismantine]

Inaff

[@masterfreelance99]

Too good

[@Starfall01]

LOL

[@liesandy291]

Ehh i usually burn the manual and drink it.

[@deontaeavila3514]

Arousing😊

[@kimacid7618]

Street fighter 2 when she was a kid, and still 17 years old, truly a senchou moment

[@Antractica]

Yeah, her Dad bought it for her in 2011. He's what the kids call "retro."

[@sethporter6365]

She's 17 (season 2)

[@viniciusnishiyama704]

Well, I'm 19 and played Stf2 too. So I've gotta defend Senchou in this point XD

[@primary2630]

Marine is on Season 2 Episode 17

[@kimacid7618]

@@Antractica yeah, I'm just joking, but to be fair she did say famcom, and very few people still have that, but u know her family might still have one.

[@Absolute__Zero]

Starving Holomember when they were kids be like: *Kanata eating weeds 🤝 Marine eating game manuals*

[@oujimandias6485]

Now look how strong they've become

[@Kaimine08]

Iroha and Subaru would go to the mountains to look for food to bring back. Apparently this is normal in rural areas?

[@homiga1]

​@@Kaimine08 It is and not unique to Japan, mainly in areas next to a forested mountain kids will play around and collect some berries, mushrooms or other fruits.

[@jcudejko]

@@Kaimine08 We have a pretty big yard, and on the edge of town. So we just decided to grow every kind of berry that will take. Blackberries are the easiest, they will push everything else out if you let them.

[@Kaimine08]

@@homiga1 Never lived out in a truly rural setting but that makes sense in a way, although it didn't sound like they were kids doing this when they were explaining it...

[@alejandrofacundo755]

Vega=Bison for non japanese. The final boss of SF2

[@lenia272]

having imported capcom vrs SNK 2 for dreamcast back in the day those 3 name swaps rly threw me off so hard. i believe it was bison vega and balrog. -_-

[@kwakerjak]

@@lenia272 To be fair, if I was a video game dev in the early 90s, I wouldn’t want to risk annoying Mike Tyson either.

[@Rezuvious]

@@kwakerjak Mike Tyson would still punch you today if you piss him off.

[@Bakuganluver23]

@@kwakerjak Yeah, Bison was "Vega" in japan, Balrog the matador was named Vega in english, and Balrog in japan had the full name Mike Bison.

[@1stCallipostle]

​@@Bakuganluver23 And that's why international competitions just said "fuck it, they're Claw, Boxer, Dictator now"

[@KandiKid87]

"Gwamma, gwamma! Come pway with me!" LOL I'm so sorry.

[@daniswara1164]

Probably the cutest 30 years old girl out there

[@MichaelKing015]

Why do i feel sad about you for some reason?

[@hio.hinomaru21]

And the most creative, well respected and talented one ever seen

[@marquisstevenson7036]

@@MichaelKing015 I’m asking the same about you 😮

[@MichaelKing015]

@@marquisstevenson7036 true

[@jcudejko]

Without a doubt!

[@ikki_asura]

Oh i remember that old Marine manual eating story. Yey grandma playing a fighting game!

[@MassiveDestructionSP]

It was cute hearing her looking back at when she was a child... eating game manuals, though? Oof

[@Fadexpl]

There is no way the story is real, she made it up on the spot after chat said it.

[@carpetfluff35]

@@Fadexpl Yep, no one who's got no food in the house is buying SFII carts...

[@MassiveDestructionSP]

@@Fadexpl yeah, definitely.

[@christiancinnabars1402]

Fadex I'm not sure if it is real or not, but she said it before, which is why that chat member brought it up.

[@christiancinnabars1402]

Also, why doesn't anyone in this thread have pfps? Lmao.

[@BrahmaDBA]

Marine: "I'm not a grandma!" Same Marine: "My parents bought me Street Fighter 2 when I was a kid." Me knowing Street Fighter 2 was released in 1991: "Sure Grandma."

[@HeathenHacks]

Well, she didn't say what year, tho. lol. Who knows? Maybe it was in 1994. [copium]

[@JeppyTheSlime]

'92 given we're talking about the SNES port, and we're assuming it's original SF2 and not turbo which was '93 (and came bundled with the SNES at least in EU)

[@1stCallipostle]

@@JeppyTheSlime That's also assuming it was bought at launch. Knowing the fact that even the Turbo port is y'know, her age. Probably was bought for her in like 2005 when prices for SNES games were pretty low, Third Strike was lacking in good ports, and 4 wasn't out yet

[@JohnEvansChaoseed]

I had a lot of fun with Street Fighter 2 for the SNES back in the day. Good times.

[@Desgaroth]

well my parents bought me Super Mario 3 on the NES when i was a kid. Didn't mean a thing since the game had been out for a few years and the Super Nintendo was already the big thing. Especially when you are from a poor family, the consoles you get can be rather old and cheap at that time.

[@39reii]

1:30 the way she looks around for something to write on is so cute

[@TheJjcczz]

Whoever said it’s only 4 buttons, you know dam well that’s not true. The game uses 7 buttons (8 in story mode) plus it takes time to learn fighting game combos

[@mechadeka]

Yeah, you can do throws with L+M, but you still have to have specific buttons for assist and burst.

[@TheJjcczz]

@@mechadeka You can throw with L+M instead of the designated button, but that would be a combo and a play style choice

[@markusfran9485]

Well if I remember it right, Assist = L+H, Grab = L+M, Burst = L+M+H, so essentially you only need 4 buttons to play the game (exclude the Roguelike mode)

[@BiblicallyAccurateToaster]

Makes sense, I heard there was quite a lot of poverty in Japan right after the Edo Period ended. Gotta do what ya gotta do. I'm playing on her age but I grew up in section 8 so I actually feel for her. Going to bed hungry is a terrible feeling, even worse when you know your parent traded our snap benefits for real money to get that fix.

[@GlitchTheLitch]

Most of the girls having 0 fighting game experience has made all these Idol Showdown streams very entertaining... especially Irys stream, where she was getting dunked on for a majority of it and panicking in Japanese, lmao. Bae also had a really funny mishap with a bug that ended up making her lose.

[@TonyBomboozled]

She's like a grandma figuring out how to use the TV remote.

[@zerocalvin]

Marine grew up with a Super Fumicon, so she is 80's kids, which means her real age is around late 30s...

[@Siinory]

For the non-initiated, Vega in Japan is M. Bison here so Dictator. And no Marine you weren't weak, you were a kid against an input reading AI, don't worry

[@Bluzlbee]

Last Blade's 2 last boss is a nightmare to fight as well, also general MK3 AI was brutal

[@Siinory]

@@Bluzlbee UMK3 GBA, any SNK game too

[@JohnEvansChaoseed]

The final boss, in other words.

[@Siinory]

@@JohnEvansChaoseed depends on the game

[@takoandpotato8804]

Marine : How do you do fellow kids

[@Nagato_Morito]

Obligatory note for the uninitiated: When Marine says "Vega" here, she's talking about the character named "M. Bison" in international releases of SF2.

[@Xaito]

she's dating herself hard, with that SNES Street Fighter 2 comment. 😅

[@xeroprotagonist]

Not necessarily, especially if she was poor growing up, it wouldn't be unusual for a poor kid growing up in the 2000s to be given an old SNES and SF2 from a garage sale or something. I gave my SNES & games to a friend's 5-year-old in 2008. Marine talked about watching Lucky Star in high school IIRC, she's not THAT old.

[@HudaefCares]

Console/PC hand me downs aren't a thing?

[@eagleye2893]

Iam Assuming She Means M Bison. Since Vega is the JP Name for M Bison.

[@naoyahikoshima]

それを書こうと思っていました。ありがとう。👍

[@shifusensei6442]

And it makes more sense when you realize that M. Bison is JP for Balrog... As in Eating Mike Bison's Ass

[@theonlymegumegu]

marine: I've played sf2 before! ichimin: so you're saying it's been 20+ years since you played, hmm, hmm...

[@oujimandias6485]

Sure Senchou has been still grappling with the fighting game controls, but you don't get to say this to her on Danmaku games. I respect GranMarine on that. Deeply.

[@SoraRaida]

Yea, while Marine is having a hard time on FGCs, she can wipe the floor if it's danmaku games

[@luciowong8590]

As a 32 yo that plays fighting games, I find a little offensive the expresion "30-Year-Old Brain Can't Keep Up With The Controls" (although it happen to me when I grab a game genre that I'm not used to it) Also, if you don't play fighting games, it's normal to not even remember what button do what

[@BlakeAter]

Yeah, benefit of a doubt though the vtuber prolly doesn't play as much. You watch someone like Maxmillion dude who... I wanna say in his 40s, guy is still dominating a few people on stream, and even learned Tekken. Daigo also is still kicking, just learning to enjoy himself since he's not in that "peak competitive" state.

[@viniciusnishiyama704]

What Marine said really hit home for me growing up with a Super Famicon and STF2, although I'm still pretty young lol

[@inhuahua1]

1:38 tskr

[@Miitanuk]

It's nice to know I'm not that much older than Senchou 😅

[@cas9564]

I feel like Marine would spontaneously combust if she saw the way some people play COD.

[@rabiroden]

For clarity, Vega is the name of the dictator character in Japan, so she's talking about the final boss here.

[@tungle1991]

Oh nyo, she's getting older that she cant remember some simple buttons

[@aserta]

Marine: Super Famicon Kids in Chat: fuck you're old. Marine: hhhhHAH, fake laugh hiding real pain

[@Polymathically]

Marine: I played Street Fighter II when I was a kid. Me: Hey, so did I! That means she has some fighting game experience! This will be great! Marine: I had to leave my game on overnight and pressed random buttons to beat Vega. Me: Oh... Oh no...

[@xavierguan3954]

1:38 She got triggered frfr

[@TheTyas]

The interaction similar to some niece visit grandma house and teach her how to play games xD w

[@drpibisback7680]

I was going to make a joke about how fighting game controls basically haven't changed since Street Fighter 2 and age is no excuse, but then sure enough Marine did play Street Fighter 2 back in the day.

[@mokeymale8350]

She does know the buttons are written on the pause screen

[@lucylu3342]

"I'd eat the instruction manual to sate my hunger" uh...

[@Null_Experis]

Street Fighter 2 was released on the Super Famicom in 1991.... If she played that as a kid, that means she's at least 37-40 years old....

[@otaking3582]

I'm a huge fighting game fan, and even I thought the controls were a bit confusing.

[@VideogamesPang]

So far pretty much every Idol Showdown stream has mostly just been the girls fighting with the controls, struggling to do motion inputs, and constantly forgetting which buttons are which. I feel like there is such a big gap between fighting games and every other genre in terms of accessibility.

[@prussianpolydactyl836]

I've been struggling with the game. My fighting game experience is playing Tekken once a year back in the PS1/2 era. One of the cousins would bring their PS over to the family boxing day gathering at the grandparents house. After moving the direction controls over to the arrow keys, I made ASD the L M and H buttons, just so I'd remember which is which by placing them in order.

[@zerospicon]

I mean, it could be worse, like an RTS or 4X...

[@graemevaughey7432]

Most of them are playing with a keyboard, so... it's not exactly ideal.

[@F1rstGrandOrder]

have you seen a non-gamer try and move with WASD and aim with a mouse? its no different

[@Dander5000]

@@graemevaughey7432 probably not, but its also incredibly hard to play these kinds of games on a controller. i play all kinds of games, like hard platformers (some called platformhell games), different genres of roguelikes, fps games, racers, puzzle games, souls likes of any subgenre available, rythm games, basically everything. but fighting games? man, i can't frkn learn how to do each move quickly. it always does different ones, especially if games have you flicking your controlstick around while pressing a button. i can sit there trying to do a single advanced move for half an hour before finally getting it once. which is the reason that i very very rarely every even try a fighting game. i just can't be bothered with the controls. idol showdown seems to be on the easy side, but still, if you never play these kinds of games, i bet its still hard to follow^^

[@yodawgzgaming4416]

That's our favorite gaming grandma

[@TheSaviorOfLight]

For those not in the know when she says "Vega" she means "Bison", the final boss

[@daodolong]

Nah , its because the notations where in English and she didn't know what they stand for .

[@Xaito]

yeah she probably "S" , "M", "H" i get... but what does it have to do with fighting?

[@lolkthnxbai]

marine "i'm 18, but my parents bought me SF2 on the famicon years old, season 14."

[@RyuuseiBoy]

Street Fighter 2 was released on the 92 so... HAG LOVE

[@SteelGnat]

Wait so marine Remember playing street fighter 2 as a kid so she was proabably like 11 to 12 years old at that time and last streetfighter 2 was in the mid 90s so checkout she is someone in here 30s stuck in a17 year old body

[@Stroimex]

The Obaratian Strikes Again

[@kurgknyank]

street fighter 2 (1992)

[@eddebrock]

When she says Vega she means who we call Bison, right?

[@CardCommander]

Im so bloody useless at fighting games so i can relate to marin obaachan here

[@DrMeisterBabylon]

Why am i getting called out here

[@tenkorochi]

Fun fact: the Vega Marine is mentioning in this clip is actually M. Bison, in japanese their names are swapped, Balrog too. in japanese Vega is Balrog, Balrog is M. Bison and M. Bison is Vega

[@Formair]

Damn, it was actually painful to hear how she was starving as a kid

[@nittayoshifumi8252]

yeah i feel Marine's struggle. i cannot for the life of me, remember which buttons are attack and what combos are

[@notSusNugget]

❤️❤️❤️ this pirate captain grandma is so endearing

[@shun-li8204]

Could've just told her to hit Pause.

[@V-li6mt]

1:43 ... 😅

[@bb-remy]

i actually perfer 6 buttons over 4 somehow it feels right

[@SSRBnero]

I tried playing today using the arcade stick and it is hard to remember the controls😢

[@crisdanpadilla9861]

... super famicon?? But shes in japan.. she must be 30+

[@TheHobgoblyn]

Based on this and some other things she has said, she is probably around 40.

[@Cuacky_RK]

She's literally 30

[@quillquickcard8824]

Two things. 1. She is 17 and no other relevant facts apply. 2. I'm 35 and she regularly says things that definitely sound like she would be right around my age or slightly older than me. Therefore, she is 17.

[@TheHobgoblyn]

​@@Cuacky_RK If she were 30, she wouldn't have even been born or not even a year old when Street Fighter II came out for the Super Famicom. In fact, the N64 would have been out before she was even in elementary school. So 30 is too young for the story she told here.

[@Xaito]

@@TheHobgoblyn SF2 and SNES was around in my childhood and I'm closer to 40 than I'd like to be - but that said, in Japan you can still buy SNES games in nerdy stores in Akhiabara etc. so it's not unlikely that she went to those stores and bought games years after their initial release. It's almost confirmed at this point however that she's 30. She herself basically was saying last year that she's not 30 YET and participated in the "soon 30" jokes.

[@hououzashintai7421]

Uh, if she had a Super Famicom as a kid, then she is closer to 40 than 30...not that I mind personally.

[@avocowdov.2239]

I see I'm not even born when SF2 n SF3 was released senchou really is old eh.

[@CharDhue]

Apparently many poor people in japan have a success in entertainment industry

[@erodnelps4965]

tbf, it's really not just Marine being boomer, there's a reason why the FGC is way smaller than other competitive and skill based game genres

[@RinaShinomiyaVal]

Usually its due to it being a 1v1 competitive at heart genre that demands higher engagement at the start. Nothing wrong with that.

[@ChinoKawaii1021]

I feel that Also can't remember shit

[@707s4]

ok hear me out i remember mosh of GTA San Andreas cheat code then combo in fighting games

[@canthandlethislol]

Kanata 🤝 Marine

[@Nematoda4ever]

street fighter 2 release date : 1991 and i thought i already old... onmy childhood, my first fighter game are bloody roar... lol

[@XicorVT]

no controller

[@orctrihar]

I agree, fighhting game are a challenge for me, I never was good at that, I'm too passive

[@xmixaplix]

Bring out the atari controller 😝

[@-Raylight]

It's ok Senchou, let's get you to your bed grandma xD Guess it's true, if you drink or eat a book, you'll be able to remember all of them

[@bhtscorpio4688]

Of course you can't play fighting game with normal controller or keyboard

[@NormalHatter]

Some can play FG with keyboard, but that is honestly a matter of personal preference. An example of keyboard players is a Tekken player named Devilster, who mains Jin (one of the hardest character to play).

[@mechadeka]

"or keyboard" Nobody tell em about the growing adaptation of hitboxes.

[@NormalHatter]

@@mechadeka out of curiosity, what is your stance on hitboxes?

[@KzintiCV]

Same though.

[@bhirawamaylana466]

Maybe Marine can start playing divekick first.

[@RinaShinomiyaVal]

Or Footsies.

[@noble_wine]

Cutie. I don't care if she bad. I like watching.

[@GodlyFire]

Not gonna lie the controls are a bit weird

[@sigilofgremory9671]

3X

[@IppoX90]

I don't like the title. I'm turning 30 next month and fighting games or motions are no problemo at this point so I really can't understand some people problems since even my bro who tries *insert fg here* for the first time gets motions down on our first match...there are even pros in their 40s out there.

[@Lugia21]

Oh god, I felt her pain. I too had a hard time trying to beat Vega the first times then came Bison fights. Also something I noticed the girls struggling with and also got me is while training the instructions show you how to use the attacks moves but it doesn't show which button you are supposed to use but rather the action, I had to look up the button mapping for that so I would've suggested putting the button icon under the action for easier understanding.

[@thewizardninja]

That's done intentionally because it's a PC game and everybody's got a different controller. What if you're using a PS controller instead of an XBox one? What if it's a knock-off gamepad that uses its own weird symbols because they can? What if you're using a Switch Pro which has the same button NAMES as an Xbox controller but in different positions? And lets not even get into all the custom fight sticks there are around. No. Labeling buttons by function is objectively superior.