Mariner VS Locarno (Theraforming Scene) - Star Trek Lower Decks 4x10

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

Putting a paywall on a bomb isn't the most Ferengi thing I've heard. Charging two *bars* of latinum, rather than slips or strips, to shut off a bomb is by far the most Ferengi thing I've ever heard. I'm genuinely surprised that it wasn't in bricks instead, because if you're going to exploit someone desperate, you'd better exploit them hard.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

Right? Like two bars is the entire daily earnings of a small business and you have to have that much on hand just to stop a bomb? Holy moly! XD

[@blairbrown4812]

You got to get the things in the damn bomb first! You're not going to make much for profit of everything's been obliterated and your customer is dead.

[@MoeLaneIII]

They probably tested to see what the sweet spot was in terms of ROI, given the special circumstances (certain death + timer). You'd rather get thirty people coughing up their two emergency bars of latinum than the one person who happened to have two bricks on them because they were on their way to the bank.

[@auriliagilneas]

Actually, the genuinely surprising part was it didn't ALSO require Latinum to activate the "bomb." Mariner was able to activate it without an issue, it was only turning it off that was paywalled.

[@AWriterWandering]

@@auriliagilneas can’t collect the Latinum from an exploded bomb.

[@mcmewsen]

"We threw a battleship at it!! 😀" Like daughter like mother. ❤

[@patsfreak]

I love how Mariner legit does not have a come back to that and looks concerned

[@mcmewsen]

​@patsfreak That expression reads "Oh my God I get it from her!?"

[@Beerbottles123]

Vadic: "Write that down"

[@joethehero2]

Also Mariner was the one pulling the "you are better than you think you are" speech on a villain. Just like her mother did with Admiral Buenamigo.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@mcmewsenshe realized that her mom made captain for a reason 🤣

[@captaintalon4485]

Nick Lorcano has big “peaked in high school” energy

[@blairbrown4812]

Making him the Al Bundy of star trek.

[@a6am3mn0n]

@@blairbrown4812 Al Bundy was arguably a better human being

[@hoot2416]

@@a6am3mn0n Al Bundy took care of his wife and raised two kids, working a job he hated to put food on the table for his family. There is no arugment, Bundy was the better human being.

[@anthonymichaeleardley494]

2:04 Poor guy (sarcasm) could not pull off the Kolvoord Starburst maneuver, but left us with some irony and a lightshow.

[@blairbrown4812]

And a new star system,@@anthonymichaeleardley494. There's that.

[@LonePhantom756]

1:19 This really sums up Lorcano. The fact that his overconfidence got someone killed, the fact that somone DIED on his watch, doesnt even seem to register to him. All he can think about is how HE lost his so-called "perfect life" as a result of being held accountable for his actions.

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

Bingo.

[@johnstaton894]

Truth! Josh Albert was the one who lost his perfect life.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

He only took the fall because Picard convinced Wesley Crusher to be honest about what had happened. The only GOOD thing that he ever did was making sure that the rest of Nova Squadron didn't go down with him.

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

@@johnstaton894 You are correct sir.

[@MenachemSchmuel]

@@WarGrowlmon18 that's crazy talk. i happened to watch that ep right before ep 9, locarno WAS centrally responsible. he convinced everyone else to do it, it was his grand exit from the academy, and he was ready to throw josh albert's legacy away, even letting his father go on thinking that his son died because he was a coward (pulling out of the maneuver too early). he "took the fall" because he held the greatest amount of responsibility, NOT out of any goodness in his heart.

[@sanyahikari7072]

It's finally good to see the inside of a Steamrunner almost 27 years after their introduction in First Contact/Armada series/Bridge Commander.

[@KazeMunashii]

lol i forgot that ship existed lol it's actually a specialty ship only available back in the day if you linked your steam account with arc games launcher for sto

[@tim_thailand9569]

This is the first time, I even saw Steamrunner’s interior, and when I first saw the “USS Passaro”, I don’t know which class it’s belong to and slowly recognize that it is Steamrunner-class. Last time I saw it was in Picard.

[@LonePhantom756]

2:07 Famous last words for a selfish showboat.

[@anthonymichaeleardley494]

@@LonePhantom756 Kind of forgot when you deal with Ferengi merchandise, you would need to have loose change at the ready. (despite now being good, they still prioritise profit).

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

@@LonePhantom756 Correct.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

1:29 This was the moment where I was like "Yeah, no. This guy has what's coming to him." Because while it's theoretically possible he had it set to stun, these phaser rifles are usually set to kill by default. Which implies that he was willing to straight up kill her

[@BritneyLaZonga]

Well the burn mark on the railing indicates it was at least set to 6, probably 8 > 6 Low Disruption = Organic tissues and structural materials both exhibited molecular damage > 7 Moderate Disruption = Organic tissue received substantial damage, and would kill most base-type humanoids > 8 Medium Disruption = Organic tissue and light alloys vaporized

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

@@BritneyLaZonga So yeah. Straight up was trying to murder her. No sympathy for him for what he got

[@askylibrarianoftheoceans4102]

To be honest, Lorcano had what was coming to him since the incident that got him expelled in the first place. His attitude was "no, it's the academy's fault because they didn't teach us how to do the hilariously illegal manoeuvre." Bastard had way more coming for him

[@MatthewJamesKalasky]

And yet Mariner was still willing to save him. She's a very special lady.

[@Solitaire001]

@@MatthewJamesKalasky She believes in Starfleet and wants to live up to its ideals, including showing mercy to those who might not deserve it.

[@karlhui4303]

Totally didn't expect that last bit, but I should've guessed the Ferengi would try to pull something so on-brand like that 😂

[@dungeonguy88]

Particularly for a black-market device. Of course they're going to try to shoe-in some after purchases charges. What are you gonna do? Call the authorities?

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

Capitalism at its most extreme people

[@AdamEspersona]

Farewell, USS Passaro (NCC-52670). Your time was brief, but vital to ending the madness of Nicholas Locarno.

[@tim_thailand9569]

We salute to you, USS Passaro. 🫡

[@toyotatacoma1616]

There was a Gagarin class bearing the same name in Picard s3. Irl they’re both named for the same vfx artist, but in-universe one could be named after the other.

[@tim_thailand9569]

@@toyotatacoma1616 I found out that too.

[@blairbrown4812]

As far as first commands go, Mariner's wasn't half bad. Maybe this time, the Phoenix(my headcanon)system will be safe and stable

[@cursedcanine8414]

@@blairbrown4812 why do i think mariner commanded a steam runer class dering the daminion war

[@MisterMarin]

"Mirab, with sails unfurled!" I smiled. 🙂

[@redrasegarden]

Translation “shit we gotta go”?

[@SpiralSine6]

@@redrasegardenyep. The Tamarian’s metaphor language is a bit more context-reliant than real languages.

[@redrasegarden]

@@SpiralSine6 I kinda like the metaphors he comes up

[@MisterMarin]

@@SpiralSine6Picard, his tea hot, Troi, her legs wide? 😉

[@MisterMarin]

@@stephenbyrne2170Captain America, when he understood the reference! 😛

[@robertaylor9218]

This scene said so much about mariner. She is easily one of my favorite Star Trek characters. She had every reason to shoot her way through this. But she kept everyone alive and even tried to save the man that tried to kill her (and only failed because of a transporter) 10 seconds before. She is comically reckless, and a sh*t-starter, and a royal pain to reign in. But she has a heart of solid gold.

[@perfectsplit5515]

She cared about LeCarno, even though he was the enemy.

[@utubrGaming]

For all her self destructive, reckless, irreverent maverick ways, Mariner is Starfleet to the bone.

[@robertaylor9218]

@@utubrGaming very much so. And well put.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

she is emotionally unstable, but was due to trauma over her mentor dying a seemingly insignificant death…she needs a long talk with a competent therapist but refuses to talk about it

[@robertaylor9218]

@@bostonrailfan2427 that’s not going to be enough. The dominion war, all the starships, seeing the suffering and the pointless roadblocks; these have all changed her forever. She can get to a healthier place though.

[@JaguarCats]

And the moral of the story is always keep two bars of latinum handy.

[@erarzemieslnikow3196]

Always carry a valuable object. Yes, logical.

[@LinaFootpad]

My grandma taught me two important lessons. Never buy cheap shoes, and never spend your last twenty dollars.

[@Simmons8519]

An unwritten rule of acquisition of I've ever heard one!

[@CristianMonserrate-wo2rk]

Too bad that Nick didn't had those

[@jorgevazqueziii7863]

Surprisingly nice of the Romulans to give the Bynars a ride out of there.

[@stormsurge2103]

Makes sense to me; we all know what the Romulan Empire does to traitors and defectors, so I imagine that those Romulans are working on their asylum request to the Federation.

[@bthsr7113]

it may also have had the best specs of their options

[@HiopX]

it was a plot against Locarno the whole time

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@stormsurge2103bingo, and was mentioned by Mariner before that scene…

[@anthonymichaeleardley494]

@@HiopX Not really, the only 2 reasons why they joined the guy was that the shield kept their bosses out,and the genesis device would make everyone think twice before trying everything. The moment the shield was gone, any bravery they had disappeared so they wanted out. Locarno revealing his true intentions to have a squadron for himself (or some fall guys) gave them the big push to leave.

[@NACLGames]

It was only when I watched this clip again after the episode that I realized that not only does the Genesis explosion is pretty much exactly the same as in TWoK..... it also looks like the Starburst Maneuver that got Locarno booted.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

intentional on both accounts, the producer knew what he was doing there 😎

[@broncoguy4862]

@@bostonrailfan2427 It was brilliant.

[@jeffreygreen8668]

Yes, dude… 😁

[@Mr.LaughingDuck]

At least Locarno gets to meet the Koala

[@davidh.6930]

I don't think he will

[@Beerbottles123]

@@davidh.6930 To the Black Mountain he go.

[@carlosrvra]

Does he though? 😅

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

Don't think that will be the case for Locarno.

[@notavailable0]

They mentioned the new planet has his DNA so it wouldn't surprise me if he turned into a living planet or something and came back in the future

[@tomhenry897]

Paywall Genius

[@raistlin3462]

Most Ferengi thing ever!

[@M0n3yk1dd]

the only time a paywall was a good idea

[@VuotoPneumaNN]

I laughed so fucking hard at that.

[@carlosrvra]

I could EASILY see this joke on a live action episode of DS9 😅

[@victormontes7007]

@@raistlin3462 there should have been two paywalls one to activate the bomb and the other to disarm it

[@posindustries]

There's a delicious metatextual irony to Nick Locarno saying "I could have been the best pilot in Starfleet!"

[@casey6556]

I think my favourite unstated joke in the episode is when Nick Locarno celebrates getting Mariner because it’ll look good to have a Starfleet admiral’s daughter on his side When he looks exactly like Tom Paris, the son of Admiral Owen Paris

[@3Rayfire]

@@casey6556 Nice, I missed that one.

[@HiopX]

@@casey6556 what, I don't see the resemblance

[@courtney-ray]

@@casey6556I don’t see it

[@Swampert384]

@@casey6556I don’t see the resemblance

[@I.Simmonds]

Yeah, A paywall on a bomb is a pretty Ferangi "Eff You" move.

[@backgroundnpc9631]

There's a lot of good stuff in this clip, but the line that I keep coming back to chuckle at that no one seems to comment on is right at the start: "You said the shield was impenetrable!" "I didn't know they were going to *_throw a BATTLESHIP at it!_*_ "_

[@RagnarKorg3141]

This is a beautiful Kolvoord Starburst in the end

[@blairbrown4812]

I prefer to think of it more as a Phoenix wave. Seriously, it should have been called The Phoenix device to begin with.

[@RagnarKorg3141]

@@blairbrown4812 The Phoenix is reborn from its ashes, no one will be reborn there

[@lorendavidsonmusic]

Basically, a tribute to the parallel scene in Star Trek: Wrath of Khan. And nicely done.

[@blairbrown4812]

@@RagnarKorg3141, I was actually referring to the devices tendency to bring life to the dead. That being said, there is a precedent for the device bringing the dead back *TO* life....

[@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain]

@@blairbrown4812 The Locarno Shuffle

[@nathanrobinson2130]

Love the nods to Horner's TWoK score in the scenes with the Genesis device.

[@DissertatingMedieval]

And the way they animated the shuttle leaving is pretty much shot-for-shot for the Enterprise escaping too.

[@brendancaulfield970]

And in a small way, tying the detonation of a 2-stage bomb to the orchestral brass blast is somewhat evoking the seismic charges from Star Wars, which are also deliriously cool (in spite of how dumb they are).

[@alexpalmer9101]

Someone on the bridge: "My God, Carol, look at it." Freeman: "Ex-CUSE me!?"

[@carlosrvra]

I’m just glad the writer who created Nick Locarno finally got some more cash for their character (presumably) 😅

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Believe it or not, we actually could've gotten stuck with this idiot on Star Trek Voyager!!!😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 Thankfully the writers thought better of it and created the new character of Tom Paris for the actor.🤩🤩🤩

[@truethat15]

@@WarGrowlmon18 paris is the exact character with a second chance. Same damn character he just got out and got stuck in the delta quadrant with people who relied on him and believed in him.

[@DanBen07]

There's an episode of Voyager where Tom Paris dad has a picture of his son on his desk but the picture is from the tng episode.

[@AnEnemySpy456]

They didn't "think better of it", they did it to get out of paying the screenwriter who created the character.@@WarGrowlmon18

[@antonbrakhage490]

@@DanBen07 Honestly, prior to this episode, my headcannon was that Paris and Locarno WERE the same person, and Locarno was just an alias he used (maybe so he wouldn't be in the shadow of his admiral father while at the Academy).

[@fukyuyuetoob7663]

The ferengi is always unpredictable, paywall in a bomb😅🤣😂😆.freaken hilarious.

[@NardoVogt]

Paywall on a bomb is the most predictable ferengi move I can think of. :D

[@thegrimmretails3777]

It was so perfectly Ferengi that my own earlobes tingled.

[@Aku9466]

I can ABSOLUTELY believe that a Ferengi would put a paywall on a bomb.

[@orcaman1353]

STUPID FERE- Blows up

[@christinefarrell6438]

When do you have more leverage to fleece someone out of their money than when they're actively disarming a bomb?

[@Solitaire001]

@@christinefarrell6438 I think that the intention was for the bomb to be disarmed so that it wasn't used and thus reclaim the money. That's also why you didn't have to use money to activate the bomb, it gives you a good incentive to deactivate the bomb and thus pay.

[@stainlesssteelfox1]

Has anyone considered that for all that the Cerritos is supposed to be a workhorse vessel that doesn't do the cool missions and high stakes adventures of the Enterprise and other 'hero' vessels, it's more badass than any of them. Things that would be an entire episode for a hero ship are basically 'for me it was Tuesday' to the Cerritos crew. Rogue energy beings, Genesis devices, spacial anomolies, it's all taken in their stride. And the main lower decks characters. Boimler, the rules lawyer, had repeatedly taken command and pulled off victories. Tendi, the over-enthusiastic science officer is a super assassin, special ops genius. Mariner is equally badass and has apparently seen more action than most security chiefs, and apparently knows everyone worth knowing in the Alpha Quadrant. Rutherford is a genius engineer who is certainly on the level of Scotty, Geordi or O'Brien.

[@fredfry5100]

Most of us did not consider those points. But the reason they are lower decks, both as lower officers and a Cali-class is consistency. Freeman, while well meaning, is way too invested in being impressive. Ransom is fully capable, but a bit of a suck up. Shax is way to gung ho about getting into fights. And T'ana is T'ana. Our quintet has their own issues. The Enterprise is consistently professional, the Cali-classes, less so.( Looking at that I, Excretus episode where the Captain forgot our then quartet).

[@rocketguardian2001]

Well most of those instances are second or third encounters. The front line ships had to figure out a way to deal with these things, so the Cerritos crew already has a strategy. It's kind of an "oh yeah, this has all been done before." vibe.

[@podemosurss8316]

They're not the "hero" vessel, they're the guys who clean up the mess afterwards.

[@daniels7907]

It's a case of characters experiencing growth. Among the senior officers, Freeman is realizing that being a Cali-class ship Captain doesn't mean that she can't still achieve noteworthy accomplishments. Ransom has been becoming a better First Officer. And our core group of lower deckers continue to prove that they can get things done.

[@noirekuroraigami2270]

@@daniels7907 Captain Boimler rocking the chair looking like a man

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

Not too surprising that the Ferengi put a paywall on a bomb. It is the Ferengi after all what I am surprised by is that there is no paywall to start the timer on said bomb.

[@animorph17]

There might have been, with Becket simply paying upfront without being told because she knows the ferengi.

[@bloglazer9410]

I'm surprise they didn't ask for two BRICKS since disarming a bomb would make them more desperate.

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

@@bloglazer9410 Very true.

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

@@animorph17 True.

[@frstrspndr1478]

Can't have a paywall to start it cause you'd never be able to collect the latinum

[@CSLucasEpic]

I loved how in the episode they acknowledged the fact that Locarno was played in TNG by the same actor that played Tom Paris in Voyager.

[@JohnEusebioToronto]

I just don't see it.

[@lornepribbeno3760]

I love that they didn't go some ham fisted route of making them brothers or cousins or some transporter accident wackiness. Its just so beautifully mundane and shrugged off.

[@partyguy101ify]

I mean, it wasn't a national secret.

[@22espec]

And the evil Tom Paris is no more

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Believe it or not, we actually could've gotten stuck with this idiot on Star Trek Voyager!!!😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 Thankfully the writers thought better of it and created the new character of Tom Paris for the actor.🤩🤩🤩

[@IronDino]

...no, I just don't see it.

[@cursedcanine8414]

@@IronDino but they litteraly have the same face

[@ki5aok]

@@IronDino I lost it when I heard Boimler say that.

[@SpiralSine6]

@@WarGrowlmon18part of it was “the writers thought better”, part of it was “we don’t want to pay this specific writer royalties because he created Lucarno’s character”.

[@Mourtzouphlos240]

Beckett, he literally is a murderer. That was a pretty significant thing that happened.

[@shadowhunter0815]

It was an accident, not murder. Granted it was caused by overconfidence, negligence and he tried to cover it up but murder would have ment he intended the death of his teammate.

[@Mourtzouphlos240]

"In United States law, depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is a type of murder where an individual acts with a "depraved indifference" to human life and where such act results in a death, despite that individual not explicitly intending to kill. In a depraved-heart murder, defendants commit an act even though they know their act runs an unusually high risk of causing death or serious bodily harm to a person. If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a "depraved indifference" to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought."

[@erynnmurphy2996]

@@Mourtzouphlos240 Oh, so that's what a text book definition looks like!

[@TheAllcreatorLiveArchives]

​@@Mourtzouphlos240my grandfather was murdered by an indifferent man like this. They sent him up 50 feet in a buck to fix a problem because they had rented the cherry-picker out and didn't forsee the problem causing workflow issues. It was a sheet metal company and one of the conveyor buckets for metal got stuck. He was sent in a bucket adjacent to the conveyor belt with a stick to try and pry it free. While attempting to do so his bucket tipped over sending him falling to his death. If they hadn't rented out the cherry picker, or at least took the L on a days worth of work he could have lived long enough to see my birth. I never knew my grandfather, but everyone said he was a trusting and loyal man. It's a shame that the worst type of people take advantage of loyalty.

[@BrokenCurtain]

​@Mourtzouphlos240 Dude, the USA has a bunch of crazy and nonsenical laws that are in no way representative of a modern nation, and the country's inability to get its shit together is a big reason for why *the USA no longer exists* in the Star Trek universe. So citing legal standards from the USA is pretty much pointless.

[@bthsr7113]

It's not surprising that he isn't respecting them as his equals. And not just in his generally massive ego. He assumed he was saving Mariner when hebeamed her up. He assumed the worst about the aliens.

[@paulschumacher4308]

Let's Play: How many "Wrath of Kahn" Easter Eggs can we squeeze into one episode?

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

Plenty!!!

[@lorendavidsonmusic]

But it was awesomely done.

[@paulschumacher4308]

@@lorendavidsonmusic Agreed! I giggled a bunch.

[@DianaGohan]

You know one thing I realized about this and the last season finale is there's a moment where you have one of our main heroes, in season 3 it was Carol and here it was Beckett trying to appease to the other side (Buen Amigo season 3 and here Locarno) saying "you aren't like this" and them saying "I really am." And you know what I realized? That's actually perfect symmtrey for the main themes of these character and showing how much they're grown and how important integrity is even over their most selfish desires. Since afterall Carol Freeman like Buen Amigo was someone who wanted to be remembered wanted to push their rank higher then they already were and gain notoroity for their ideas and deeds but the difference was at the end of the day Carol still cared about following the protocol as best as she could and doing what was right for her crew and those under her while Buen Amigo just cared most about results and how others saw his ideas even if they were faulty. Same with this season; Mariner and Locarno were both really talented students at Star Fleet academy who were poised to do great things but experiences made them cyncial to the entire idea of Star Fleet and not wanting to follow their rankings and do their own thing. The difference is Mariner despite her anger and aggression never wanted to rise up in the ranks and just do more her own thing and realized ultimately how limiting that is and how that's cutting off her own progression. While Locarno wanted to set up his own group separate from Star Trek and amass the respect he felt had been denied from him. So yeah the reason Carol and Bekett care so much about trying to redeem and reach out to these guys even when they keep threatening to kill them and do these awful things aren't just because of their own nobility but also recognizing these actions as twisted paths they could have fallen down on some level if they hadn't realized better alternatives and were trying to save these guys down that path even if it was too late for them. And you know that actually makes these parallels hit better honestly realizing that then when I first saw this finale so massive kudos to the team for how they're evolving the cast and paralleling that with the villains they encounter.

[@courtney-ray]

Yeah the S4 finale parallels the S3 finale just like the S2 finale parallels the S1 finale

[@Strykenine]

Such a good season finale! Can't wait to see what Tendi gets up to in season 5. Who would have known this show had these legs?

[@rocketguardian2001]

I'm hoping for a Tendi-Narrated Orion Mafia movie. "As far back as I can remember, I never wanted to be a pirate." "Oh, I'm sciency? What do you mean I'm sciency? Am I here to science you?"

[@trenthawkins]

I bring you sad news from 5 months in the future... The paramount execs cut those legs out from under the show.

[@rastifan7863]

Deactivation paywall? Um yeah. It's the Ferengi. Makes perfect sense. For any other race, madness, but not with them.

[@Arvyn992]

That's very Ferengi to put a paywall into there portable GensisBomb

[@Totema1]

"Robert, thanks for reprising your role as Tom on Lower Decks! We have another VA opportunity for you on the show, are you interested?" "Definitely! Will I be playing Tom again?" "...Kind of!"

[@BigNerd505]

Ay yes ,the untold 286th Rule of Acquisition: If you wanna live, you gotta pay

[@GeoStreber]

It's a shame that Locarno's last words weren't "I hate Ferengi". That would have been a perfect reference.

[@AlSidre]

A reference to what, sorry 😅

[@Jokie155]

DS9's 'The Magnificent Ferengi'. When Gaela shoots Keevan by mistake, Keevan says that right before keeling over.

[@triandfit1]

@@Jokie155 then the one they capture starts to say it as well!

[@thewewguy8t88]

Acting grand nagaus!

[@lornepribbeno3760]

Who said those were his last words? May have been this incarnations last words but remember what happened last time someone got caught up in a Genesis explosion?

[@karlolson1363]

Well, he always wanted to be famous now he will be. Hopefully his story will be a good warning to others that you should not let your ego get to you.

[@michaelnash5542]

I love the music that plays when Mariner reaches the Genesis device, I'm sure it's from the Wrath of Khan

[@lillardevans9412]

The scene where the ship’s engine nacelle gets blown off, is an EXACT and DIRECT callback to the final battle with the USS Reliant in the Motara Nebula in Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan!

[@jessmith7324]

Half the ep was a call back lol

[@MoeLaneIII]

@@lillardevans9412 That bit where the circular cloud-shockwaves are radiating from the Genesis Device is from STII, too.

[@thaipankatima658]

2 bars? That's outright robbery! Make it 2 slips or 1 strip at least. Damn pay to win Ferrengi.

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

TWO BARS?? That is awfully steep! What about two slips?

[@LrdHollow]

Better than a brick

[@astralbody13]

this is the Ferengi we're talking about

[@midnightrun5622]

Shouldn't there be a Rule of Acquisition about "When you have them by the lobes, squeeze them until the scream soprano!"?

[@toxicghost58]

"They put a paywall on a bomb?!"

[@CristianMonserrate-wo2rk]

Stupid Fere- *explosion*

[@ArgusAlone]

the sound design for when the planet is made is so gorgeous, no other way to describe it

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Hopefully that planet lasts longer than the Genesis Planet did

[@zomfragger]

Knowing the Frengi it'll last a week because they cheaped out on something.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

"To prevent planetary collapse, send 50 bricks of gold-press latinum to..." 😂

[@anthonyrodriguez8788]

​@@zomfraggerif this was an official Ferengi Genesis Device I would imagine the planet would last as long as any other planet since these are presumably used to create planets for long term investments. I imagine cheaping out on parts for something like this would open you up to the mother of all Ferengi lawsuits. But seeing as how this is one found on the Black Market it wouldn't surprise me if this one really was made cheap.

[@PhantomObserver]

Depends on whether the builders still had to use protomatter as part of the device’s baseline matrix. If they found a workaround the new planet might have a chance to be featured in season 5.

[@DaSuDanesi]

I think it would’ve worked properly if not for the fact it was trying to use a mix of the Mutara Nebula and what was left of the Reliant as feedstock. On that note, this one will probably not last any longer than Genesis.

[@sapphirewingthefurrycritic985]

Of course there's a paywall on a bomb. God, Ferengi are so greedy.

[@patsfreak]

I love how we got a great nod to Wrath of Khan but also Titan AE

[@kevinslater4126]

What's stupid is he could have gotten away in his other ship but was too proud to leave the Genesis Device. High Int stat, low Wis stat.

[@daniels7907]

Weird how so much of what happened in ST:II was because Starfleet supposedly needed a lifeless planet to test the Genesis Device on. But the actual device seems perfectly capable of sucking in clouds of space gases and forming terrestrial planets out of the gaseous mass.

[@bloglazer9410]

Well this is a more ADVANCED model afterall.

[@daniels7907]

@@bloglazer9410 - The original did the same thing to the Mutara nebula.

[@kdrapertrucker]

​@@daniels7907yes, but it was unstable, and the planet ripped itself apart.

[@daniels7907]

@@kdrapertrucker - We have only Starfleet's hope that *this* planet will be usable, but no proof that it won't fall apart too. It's telling that the Ferengi aren't mass-producing and selling these. Perhaps because of known issues that could lead to demands for refunds?

[@daniels7907]

@@kdrapertrucker - We have no proof that this one won't too. Starfleet may only *think* that planet Locarno is more stable than Genesis was. But it's not like Genesis devices have been in widespread usage, allowing for lots of data to be collected about them.

[@KuDastardly]

In the very end, Locarno got his wish to end his career in a spectacular blaze of glory, literally. Both Locarno and Mariner are often wreckless. The only difference however is that Locarno will get anyone around him killed to get ahead while Mariner does the opposite by saving everyone and keeping them alive at her own expense.

[@lornepribbeno3760]

Well, I wouldn't write Locarno off just yet. Remember what happened last time someone got caught up in a Genesis device explosion. Just saying

[@ScreamingScallop]

"He's not really dead...as long as we remember him." "Remember who?"

[@freedomstar3930]

I honestly cannot believe Locarno! He got someone killed through a plot to make himself a living legend and years later, all he can think of is how he lost his so called 'perfect' life and pins the blame on his professors when clearly it was all his fault. Not only that, but he boasts about graduating top of his class when he was actually expelled! Also, he treated his "Nova Fleet" with a lot of disrespect and expected them to follow his orders to the letter, so it's no wonder they ditched him! As for Mariner, she has a really good point about the Genesis Device being too dangerous for anyone and I find it really good that she still wanted to save Locarno even after he tried to kill her, as if she hoped that he could still be redeemed. Sadly that wasn't going to happen as Locarno had gotten Josh killed because of his ego......and then his ego got himself killed. Talk about a cautionary tale.

[@lornepribbeno3760]

Well, put a pin on the Locarno is dead bit. Remember what happened the last time someone got caught up in a Genesis device explosion. Just saying

[@freedomstar3930]

@@lornepribbeno3760 Do you mean Spock being revived? I strongly doubt that with Locarno.

[@lornepribbeno3760]

@@freedomstar3930 why not?

[@Solitaire001]

@@lornepribbeno3760 First, Locarno is not a Vulcan. One of the reasons Spock was able to come back is that his spirit was placed into McCoy, and in the comics published by Marvel he encountered his Mirror Universe Counterpart who helped restore his mind. Also, Locarno was at ground zero of the Genesis Explosion (literally standing next to the device when it detonated), while Spock's body was on the Enterprise and it was sent to the Genesis Planet after it had formed.

[@lornepribbeno3760]

@@Solitaire001 eh, semantics. And hardly worth arguing at this point. Doubt its gonna come up one way or another now that the show is cancelled.

[@sethcourtemanche5738]

Nice to see a Genesis device again

[@lornepribbeno3760]

Yeah, and lets remember what happened to the person whose body got caught up in one of its explosions before. Just saying, might not be the last we hear of Locarno.

[@Ishtarru]

“First off, you didn’t graduate” the sass on this woman.

[@firestuka8850]

The Ferengi learned how EA Games works

[@BritneyLaZonga]

Well the burn marks on the railing and the ceiling plates indicates that phaser rifle was at least set to 6, probably 8 > 6 Low Disruption = Organic tissues and structural materials both exhibited molecular damage > 7 Moderate Disruption = Organic tissue received substantial damage, and would kill most base-type humanoids > 8 Medium Disruption = Organic tissue and light alloys vaporized

[@robertaylor9218]

Yeah, that looked like he was going for the kill. She would have seen the beam moving through her displaced body. She still tried to save him.

[@Digikidthevoiceofreason]

*_NNNNEEEERRRRDDDD!!!!!_* 😂

[@truethat15]

SO HE DIED TO MICROTRANSACTIONS.

[@Ragnarra]

Ha!

[@Yasuda9000]

HAHAHA. Funny.

[@moseshorowitz4345]

"Theraforming"? Did you mean "Terraforming"?

[@Blazingstoke]

Well no, because it's making a world that resembles the planet Thera, which is out in the Vidraal system. 😉

[@livingchutoy5422]

I keep seeing people (in other similar videos) saying she took a Saber Class Starship. It is not a Saber Class. The ship Mariner took is a Steamrunner class. Sabers do not have the underslung deflector/engineering section between the Nacelles.

[@MarshalStomm]

It's too small to be a Steamrunner. It's been stated by someone involved with the show that it's a 'Sabrerunner'. So the look of a Steamrunner in a Sabre class sized ship. With its small size, I feel safe speculating that these were combat focused ships meant to supplement the defenses of larger installations like Starbases. Maybe Starfleet was even developing a carrier ship for them. It's interesting that Locarno had one, a full on Starship being stolen would presumably trigger a large response from Starfleet, but smaller support ships like Runabouts (which also had unique registries, unlike Shuttles that had their home ship's registry) aren't as closely watched. Consider how many times DS9 had a runabout stolen.... It also seems to be a fairly recently acquired ship, as it accepts Captain Freeman's command code (I would assume those get changed at least every few years), yet Starfleet didn't think its disappearance was related to the mystery at hand, as they state that no Federation ships had been targeted.

[@Cofe82]

@@MarshalStomm I assumed it was recently decommisisoned hence why Freeman's command code works. Like Picard's worked on the Enterprise-D after ST: Picard Season 3 ep Vox

[@raflamar4146]

I really enjoyed all the Wrath of Khan references this episode!

[@M1ckTheMan]

Yes, it's the FERENGI who are stupid, not you for having a weapon you didn't know how to disarm.

[@bloglazer9410]

Especially as he got it FROM the Ferengi.

[@redrasegarden]

Well I mean, what if they need to disarm it and they don’t have the gold stuff? It is a bit of a design flaw.

[@Solitaire001]

@@redrasegarden The Ferengi Technician working on the Device would either : (1) know about the paywall and would be ready to pay ahead of time, or (2) knows a backdoor into the Device's software. Locarno didn't learn about the paywall until it was too late.

[@redrasegarden]

@@Solitaire001 I suppose that’s true

[@landonletterman831]

The scariest thing here is the idea that one of them could set the paywall to whatever they wanted it to be.....

[@landonletterman831]

For real, though, this bomb _has_ to be a direct shot at Starfleet, who don't use money and could never deactivate it......

[@alternativefashiongothicga7]

Its nice to see a wrath of khan style episode

[@meldroc]

Can you think of anything more terrifying than a Ferengi-knockoff Genesis device? I imagine they bought the protomatter from the lowest bidder.

[@WizelBalan]

Oh wow i just noticed the explosion looks like a Kolvoord Starburst, nice touch.

[@steelsith2579]

Ferengi would love EA. Or EA would love the Ferengi. Whichever one loves paywalls more 😂

[@zathras]

Nice call back to the original Wrath of Khan in this episode. Also the genesis bomb explosion looks like the Nova Fleet symbol.

[@triandfit1]

Which was the starburst maneuver graphic from the computer screen on TNG.

[@suburbantimewaster9620]

You can really see how far Locarno's fallen in this clip. How, even though he tried to pull a banned daredevil stunt, he refuses to see that it was all his fault and blames everyone around him. In the end, he was little more than a spoiled overgrown child and that was his downfall.

[@maundamartin59]

Looking like the ENTERPRISE RUNNING FROM THE ST2 DETONATION.❤

[@chrismarks4277]

mutara nebula battle nice love how Meriners ship did what Reliant did when her port nacelle was destroyed

[@Dave102693]

What comes around, goes around

[@jessragan6714]

Brilliant twists all around in these two episodes. Definitely worthy of the name Star Trek.

[@VankeithB.-lx1dy]

Nice scenes this should be called, "Star Trek: Lower Decks -The Wrath of Locarno".

[@lornepribbeno3760]

And the first episode of the next season. "Star Trek: Lower Decks -The Search for Locarno".

[@5jay540]

I see the Ferengi work for EA

[@PitFriend1]

Since that was a Ferengi made bomb I’m amazed you didn’t have to insert Latium just to turn it on in the first place.

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

Lol, I said that too.

[@anthonymichaeleardley494]

Reminded me of an episode of the Twilight zone "The Chaser" where you can buy a powerful love potion for $1, and then a poison for $1000. Here you buy a bomb for a mere pittance and then pay any price to turn it off before it detonates. Classic Ferengi.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

Mike McMahan knows the principle of vendor lock-in very well.

[@kdrapertrucker]

If they did that the platinum would be destroyed in the future explosion.

[@ulphil08]

Brilliant call back to The Wrath of Khan

[@johnwang9914]

Well, they could parody Star Trek III, and bring him back from the genesis planet that the black market genesis device created. Mind you, who did a mind meld with him.

[@lornepribbeno3760]

That's what I've been thinking too. And consider the reason Spock needed the meld could be that the device only had access to his dead body. Perhaps with Locarno being alive at the time of the detonation, he'll be able to side step that necessity.

[@neilsanghvi5229]

This show rekindles fondness for TNG that I feared had been extinguished.

[@GeoStreber]

Am I completely stoned or does the Ferengi script at 2:01 say "Code Verified"

[@BillSimmons-jb2tn]

The Trek franchise has been desperately trying to recapture the timeless magic that was Wrath of Khan for close to 50 years and it's a cartoon that does it effortlessly. Well played Cerritos. Well played indeed.

[@FekLeyrTarg]

The fact that the Ferengi developed their own black-market version of the Genesis projectile implies to me that either the Ferengi had a damn good hacker or Starfleet Security messed up again. Afterall, shouldn't all data on Project Genesis still be classified even after 100 years considering its destructive potential? And Robert Duncan McNeil was right about one thing: Locarno really was rotten to the core. ;-)

[@MWkillkenny84]

Or Option Three, the Ferengi *bribed* someone in charge of the archives at Strafleet HQ and got the data of the original Genesis Device "under the table", then throw enough money and R&D Teams at the problem until the kinks of the original device had not been ironed out. Because the idea of being able to convert a lifeless rock into premium habitable estate (when M-class planets that are not already occupied by self-aware lifeforms are a premium) and selling them to anyone wanting a new colony ready to be made? It would attract Ferengi like flies on honey.

[@ViDianLeoVidus]

Why did they put a paywall if no one would receive it?

[@jimward89]

2:04 you hate Ferengi eh eh eh eh just like vorta said that. in ds9 The Magnificent Ferengi

[@targetseeker]

How far can we play the Ferengi paywall before it gets ridiculous? Frieza gathering the Namekian dragonballs but can't make a wish because he doesn't have the latinum. Thanos about to prove his love to Death but can't do it because the Ferengi locked the Infinity Gems behind a paywall. The One Ring won't melt unless you pay the Mount Doom paywall

[@CMWaters]

Well in the Frieza case his paywall was the language barrier, since Porunga only accepted wishes in the Namekian language.

[@targetseeker]

@@CMWaters oh i know, in this case Porunga and the other dragonballs still need to insert tokens to operate.

[@CMWaters]

@@targetseeker Well, that would have made Bulma more useful on Namek at least.

[@targetseeker]

@@CMWaters i wonder if Bulma could've just paid Frieza to stop the saiyan attack on Earth. Can planets actually pay the Frieza force not to attack them?

[@CMWaters]

@@targetseeker That depends on both Frieza's mood as well as what Zenni (I think that's how that's spelled) are worth in galactic trade. Though Vegeta would have tried anyway since he was always planning to overthrow Frieza at that point.

[@jayblakely]

Everybody's missing the Colbert starburst pattern coming out of the genesis explosion, atleast nobody's talking about it.

[@lornepribbeno3760]

Remember another person was caught up in a Genesis explosion too. Locarno very well could come back.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

If you mean Spock then no. He died of radiation poisoning. When the Enterprise ejected his body it landed on the unstable new planet

[@jhart6764]

This episode is unofficially named "Wrath of Carn" in my mind.

[@ulphil08]

Wrath of LoKhano

[@lornepribbeno3760]

And if the Genesis device plays out like last time, the next one could be "Search for Carn"?

[@bushidotestu1997]

Of course the Ferengi would put a paywall on a device that dangerous, if they have the money why wouldn’t they pay the price to save their lives

[@ianharac5153]

Did they use the same music sting when Locarno spotted Mariner as they used in WoK when Khan spotted the Enterprise?

[@bthsr7113]

Interesting that the Binars chose to throw in with the Romulans.

[@Solitaire001]

I've been suspicious of the Binars here because there were three of them on Locarno's ship. It has been previously established that Binars always operate in pairs. I was expecting one of them to be revealed to not be a binar.

[@themainSign]

And now Locarno makes the long trek to the black mountain to fight three faceless versions of his father. If you beat that, see you in a few seasons maybe XD

[@x808drifter]

WTF is Theraforming? I'm going to assume it's supposed to be "Terraforming" and everyone is being to nice to point it out.

[@redrasegarden]

I know it’s a bomb…but it’s really pretty. Can we have this as a lamp IRL?

[@jordanloux3883]

A lamp you gotta put money into to turn it off

[@redrasegarden]

@@jordanloux3883 that would make it a piggy bank. I mean, a very stylish piggy bank but still.

[@tanksoldier]

Until this episode, my head canon was that “Locarno” was really Tom Paris, using an alternate name to avoid accusations of favoritism.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Believe it or not, we actually could've gotten stuck with this idiot on Star Trek Voyager!!!😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 Thankfully the writers thought better of it and created the new character of Tom Paris for the actor.🤩🤩🤩

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

Nice of those Romulans to give the Bynars a lift when they were transported.

[@MWkillkenny84]

Gotta gather enough goodwill by helping their fellow members of the Club "Duped By Locarno" to get help and possible asylum from the Federation to avoid being deported to the Romulan Empire.

[@michealoceallaigh4716]

Terra Prime was on my list if suspects for the big villain, plus the device would've probably said "please take out latinum and reinsert, as there was a problem" like the P.I.T.A. lodging machine.

[@silentfox139]

We threw a battleship at it

[@ReallyBillyBoggs]

now what im wondering is if the nova fleet members went back to the respective groups or kept doing the pirate thing

[@charleshammer7984]

I wonder if he’ll come back in some form?

[@A2goddess]

Its like ea and 343 industries selling season passes and realife ingame credits.