Professional Chinese Gold Farmer tells all - Exclusive Interview with Jared Psigoda

[@ZiggyDGaming]

He does now, with a video game firm I believe but back then he was essentially self-employed as a broker. I see that as smart.

[@sammokthegrey4992]

God, this kid is shady. He's like the mmo version of a mob boss.

[@frantisekzverina473]

Samuel Morrison mmomob

[@dragansprem6265]

mmomobboss

[@infamousjax]

Gold godfather

[@buckovens6706]

chinese connection

[@AussieNord]

It's the eyebrows

[@roflmows]

i'm a proud owner of a level 90 kangaroo in World of Wombats.

[@meselthan]

Lmfao!

[@Sigrafix]

I don't play any of these games nor do I have any idea how they work but I find these videos fascinating... There's something compelling about listening to how other people scheme (good or bad) to profit from certain circumstances legitimate or otherwise, it's almost like watching the creative process for an artist except it's monetary in nature and not so much self expression. It spurs a sort of entrepreneurial desire and perhaps even spark a few ideas which may be totally unrelated to the subject matter but the same principals can be applied and you hear the pitfalls of doing things the wrong way and the right way as neither is guaranteed to protect you, there's risk in any sort of business venture and just listening to the amounts of risk successful people take is some what inspiring if not terrifying. Lol.

[@Anudorini-Talah]

You are confused. The most entertaining thing is watching other people doing their hobby.

[@robsdeviceunknown]

I know this video is quite old. I would love to see a new interview with this guy. So much has changed. I found this interview fascinating.

[@michaelfaber9198]

"Any man who must say, "I am the king" is no true king." - Tywin Lannister

[@Ecliptor.]

"I am also a man from a fictional world"

[@tnuc748]

The logic still applies fictional or not. The fact he is a self-proclaimed king means he is not a king at all...

[@RUdigitized]

The shadiness of that kid is astonishing.

[@NickqtGaming]

Well he has to protect himself, he's involved in something that is greatly frowned upon and against most MMO's TOS'

[@googleplusrapedme9227]

A cancer to the community

[@AussieNord]

it's the eyebrows

[@TheBucketSkill]

@@googleplusrapedme9227 Literally stacking real currency. Giving no fucks.

[@TheOnlyWaterPoloGod]

I don't know about you guys but i really enjoyed this interview. The guy is very articulate

[@Galexlol]

the guy is a huge pathetic p##sy who will be forgotten to time and only remembered slightly by you people for being a scammer sick life you had

[@starczarar]

Absolutely fascinating. Thank you both for this interview!

[@kodamaqq6143]

this guy is great. that's obviously the best thing you can ever do.

[@RichardGAG]

The hate and jealously in this comment section is epic, dude realized how to make money without breaking any rules himself. Good for him. Then remember, its players that decide to buy gold not the sellers!

[@ledzeppelin4892000]

If there's demand, there's a market.

[@duluxdoggy]

this is why back in the day when i played wow i bought the authenticator, a small amount of mojney for something so simple yet so secure

[@TheGilmer]

This kid is co-founder and CEO of R2Games now, that is fucking cool man lol So glad you got this early interview of him!

[@AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet]

This guy's smile is so sly his portrait must be in the dictionary for that word.

[@hjula87]

Wow, he already talks like a lobbyist...

[@Kasejeb]

+Hjula flandman His company is worth over $50 million, lol..?

[@terro740]

+killall217 wow makes more then that in 1 month off subs so it wudnt suprise me with the way he monitized off of chinesse labor

[@hjula87]

killall217 What does money have to do with lobbyist? lol...

[@Kasejeb]

Hjula flandman When did I say or infer money having anything to do with logic?

[@gtamonkey3061]

Alex Arocho ok and....

[@Vapendragaren93]

I got hacked back in TBC... And they used my account to farm gold.. So when i got the account back, I was 10 times richer with A LOT of mats

[@LS-wy4bk]

Worth xD

[@Electr1cWaffles]

Same happened to me in Wotlk

[@IceGeck0]

so you cheated...

[@sheepinwolvesclothing1135]

They let you keep it?

[@GlennTheSadMarinersFan]

Jared Psigoda is the co-founder and CEO of Reality Squared Games, or R2Games, a Web and mobile game publisher specializing in free-to-play games. The company currently has more than 200 employees, and offices in Shanghai, Shenzhen, and Guangzhou whose business includes bringing Chinese games to Western players. from forbes.. I think he survived the wow tokens.

[@MeTaLLiCa997]

+Glenn Hackworth Yeah, nothing but ignorant foreign countries.

[@MeTaLLiCa997]

Yeah, I can feel the Jihad within.*****

[@CV-ly6ct]

MeTaLLiCa997 those are Chinese cities

[@mackinboss5429]

WoW, lol. People are fuckin' haters. He found a service to provide, I think you all are just mad because he's banking on this.

[@Zephury]

Even better than required password resets is secondary passwords. No memory issues. Mabinogi implements this and I've never had issues remembering/never cared about the user experience. Two passwords required to login. For mabinogi, the second password utilizes an on screen keyboard, also circumventing keyloggers if those are even still a thing, lol.

[@SimilakChild]

I met a malaysian woman named Sue and she was pro at RMT, she made sure none of her customers get banned because she had access to the GM's accounts too. really incredible work.

[@RightHandedMan25]

ok nerdo

[@Generic12312]

This kid should get into a more stable market, he's got a brilliant mind and although there are many hating on him, thats just jealousy, give him some credit its nice to see people rising from poverty and making jobs for themselves and others. He could adapt this knowledge to any sector because he has the basics of business down and thats all one needs. Well done buddy!

[@colbicolbiWTF]

"Is there a future in this? Big gaming companies: yes but we're going to ban all this and provide the services ourselves!

[@theonlyconstantischange123]

Crypto: not if I have something to say about it

[@themaintenancespot3254]

This kid is smart, I'll give him that. And I respect that. Obtaining a Masters by 22 is not an easy thing to do. However, from a gamer's point of view...even though you are on a Broker Level, you still have a hand in making the game less enjoyable for others. Every day I log into one f my games, I have to ignore the spam, and I choose to do the work for my gold, gil or otherwise, myself, because its HONEST. Its not your knowledge that I despise kid, it's what you are choosing to do with it...

[@lekad.9021]

Levi Klein

[@SimilakChild]

never heard of this dude, but i know a malaysian girl named maggie that runs a whole large linked network of farming websites, she also responsible for taking out the competition which she is very good at doing

[@deadcartmen]

I like this kid, he's fucking witty

[@retardeddude303]

This guy is right place at right time.

[@NapoleonDeBombarde]

KZbin should add a timer to the comments. To see who actually watches the full 40 minutes!

[@TeddieYoutube]

I have an even better solution... GET A FREE FUCKING AUTHENTICATOR :D I was hacked once... never again have I been hacked.

[@TeddieYoutube]

I wouldn't say dumb.. just not careful.

[@Swisheals]

So I guess you dont use curse client because its certificate doesn't match up aka untrusted or are you one of them so called dumb people

[@sub7design]

This kid is a true hustler.

[@Sourman1545]

Hope this guy goes out of business asap cant stand gold farmers. They are a cancer to the game, virtual currency should stay 100% virtual 100% of the time.

[@Kennypauls]

Good tip on passwords. Other than that...I feel like I violated all my EULAs for simply watching this video.

[@Tiigerr]

I understand the hate towards this guy for what he's involved in, but I also find it really funny that because of that hate, most of the commentators on this video are blind and can't analyze the video objectively. The guy may be doing something unethical but he actually seems quite smart and knows what he's talking about. You should probably also Google his name, it might give you a little insight about him: www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=jared%20psigoda

[@erwins4362]

+Tiiger Oh okay because he ''seems quite smart and knows what he's talking about'' it's okay for him to be a parasite...? Dumbass.

[@Tiigerr]

+erwin s That's not what I said. If you bothered to try and understand what I was saying, I was commenting on all the people calling him stupid for what he was doing. Like I said you can absolutely argue the ethics of what he's doing and I wholeheartedly agree that it's wrong. But he's not stupid, he's actually pretty smart and he's pretty successful at what he does. When you separate what you personally think about a person with what they've accomplished and how they accomplished it, it's easy to see my point. This is completely independent from whether something is right or wrong. But instead you'd rather ignorantly insult me and completely miss my point.

[@ElvenMans]

+Tiiger I don't care how smart you think he is, he is doing illegal stuff.

[@Tiigerr]

ElvenMr And I never said otherwise.

[@Deadganon]

I dont get excited by farming for several days or weeks for one item either BUT thats why i invent new and faster ways of getting gold.I found that in most online games,playing the auction house game is very profitable and doesnt take much time at all,leaving u tons of time to actually play the game.I dont mean buy low and sell high,thats for small time amateurs, im talking about creating markets,buying materials for less then the finished product with professions or dissemble them for profit.

[@MrBonglove]

wow this kid is mad smart.

[@MrPeterref]

Why do you think so?

[@OriginalPai]

Peter Refsgaard I think he believes that attaining a masters degree in a foreign language at the age of 22 is impressive. I think the cut off for being impressed about a masters degree in a foreign language would be about 12-13 years old.

[@tehnubster69]

OriginalPai You seem to be very jealous of this Jared dude for some reason seeing how you keep on randomly hating on him. Are you insecure?

[@OriginalPai]

tehnubster69 Keep hating on him? I elaborated on one comment and made one general observation on his arrogance. Thanks for playing though.

[@nunyab8972]

OriginalPai so jealous

[@TheDrugtopia]

this 24 yr old kid is fucking smarter than i ever will be :( he knows exactly what to say not to get sue'd seems like hes very good speaker wow how i wish i did what he did

[@KFC-Warrior]

As much as you may hate gold farming/this guy, he definitely knows what he's talking about, or at least it seems that way O.o

[@ZiggyDGaming]

Smart enough to not have a job...

[@bondenjostein]

It's not illegal. There are no laws concerning virtual currency as a 3rd party. It is, however, against most game companies' Terms of Service, which you agree to when you start using their services (Play their games). If you break them the terms (Buy gold, pay for account services etc.) they won't allow you to use their service any further. (A ban). You are in no way a criminal.

[@bamazudi]

Lol, I am just using it to pay my tuition and support myself while I am still studying at uni. It has been working out pretty great so far, better than a dead-beat half-time job. I can't rely on gold-farming to support me my whole life, I know that. :P

[@jirosei8]

A book wont do, we need a full documentary series.

[@adrianpatricio5369]

I love how he is proud to break the first rule of every game "no real world trades"

[@fatmanwithcake]

I like the part where he says "Oooooooh Shit"

[@natasharossouw1075]

Wolf of wowstreet! Lol!

[@SpencerLemay]

If a company does partially RMT themselves but supports a robust economy then the farmers can still undercut the companies, take EvE Online for example, You can buy in game items for real money from the developers and trade them to other players in game that allows you to refresh your monthly subscription for free, and yet farmers and RMT bots are still present.

[@Rangstaa]

he basicly said the same thing over and over making it sound smart and big which is simple.

[@zero98ify]

Well then you're a pretty shitty listener. He did repeat himself several times, but that's because the questions were fairly repetitive. And anyways, I dare you to try pull off the same thing he did. Try controlling like 30% of all the gold in a wow server.

[@loiloiloi6]

I thought it was pretty annoying when he kept going "It's basic economics" to make himself seem like a CFO lol

[@moduscorp]

All these people still raging at him realize he does not even do this anymore. He publishes browser games in China now. Google is a wonderful thing.

[@untiedshoes3373]

I like how he pointed out that games can sell the currency themselves to combat this. Thats what guild wars 2 done. You can buy gems with actual money then turn those gems into gold. But it isnt a set price. Its kind of a stock market deal and the ratio of gems to gold and likewise can go up and down. This kid is smart. I do not really like what he does but it is a form of business and he has found a place in it. It really does have an impact on game play though for others :/

[@hermitgamer]

super interesting interview, thanks mate!

[@wickeddrew6961]

I like this guy, go Buckeyes! xD

[@someone-ji2zb]

To think this kid made more money than the vast majority of workers. Life sucks.

[@EdgyVidyaGeneral]

Considering he's multilingual and networks with dozens of companies on high volume high cost transactions across the globe, it makes perfect sense he makes more money than someone who sits and grinds the same content WoW for a dozen hours a day (which requires no skill and minimal training).

[@herpmahderpflurpledumunumu7080]

This guy is cancer. Accept that fact and move on.

[@TheCaffeinatedDM]

We can all say "wow, he's smart!" but is clearly not putting that to morally good use. No, gold farming isn't 'illegal,' as far as the law is concerned; but it ruins the game for others. I was literally JUST out trying to farm felcloth to get my Robe of the Void in classic and had to content with 3 seperate gold farming bots at every single camp. I wound up fearing the mobs away and got lucky enough to mess up the pathfinding on the bots so, that was a small win; but the people who are doing this aren't being paid fair wage, and may not even be doing this willingly. It's morally dubious at best, and quite honestly, I wish this guy would've just put his time into program development or the medical field. It would have done the world a lot more favors.

[@LegendJ0e4]

thumbs up if mog time sent u here. OpieOP

[@wired8381]

+LegendJ0e4 lmao what did mogtime say about this vid?

[@LegendJ0e4]

Doge Kun yea, let me remember back to 6-7 months ago. xD

[@yafhaioaeiohtoia4445]

+LegendJ0e4 Did you remember yet?

[@thielenm]

This confirms my suspicion that my account was hacked after signing up on curse. The day my authenticator was turned off my account got hacked.

[@Jaymzi]

"Really cheap like 10k gold is $19.99" Man 2010 sucked, 10k gold is like $2 now ahahaha

[@PwnUrBadCock]

Its easier to farm now

[@kevinsephiroth]

Jaymz Keane what you could buy with 10k gold in 2010 is worth about 100k gold nowadays... Everything's value got inflated hardcore

[@colourblind3213]

Smart guy, grats on your accomplishments, whatever they may be

[@ImUncleJon]

He would obviously at some point deal with 'dirty gold' which is the equivalent of handling stolen goods and therefore illegal. If he was doing this in the US or UK I guarantee he would be arrested.

[@Ockiegames]

24 and still cant grow a mustache XD

[@Lihborg]

***** you know what you call a person with no mustache/beard? a woman :)

[@onenineninelily]

if your dad doesn't have a beard then you have to mums

[@devon752]

When the best thing you have over a kid that's earned millions is his lack of mustache then you know you're jealous.

[@StanwoodSpartans]

devon752 As comedian Bill burr said, if anybody attacks your character or looks, you've won the debate.

[@Suiceyed]

i smell jealously

[@marreco167]

I love this kind of videos

[@danpt2000]

WoW is a shitty game.

[@locsaretheshit]

I, and 7 million people, disagree.

[@Haeruna]

Adam Hamilton How about the other 3 million that left within like 2 years?

[@danpt2000]

Adam Hamilton I played WoW for couple hours, each day for 5 days. Its just like this other game that I downloaded for free. Who the hell wants to sit around farming creatures for hours and hours.

[@alhslm]

danpt2000 Him, me, and 7 million other people...

[@locsaretheshit]

danpt2000 That's your summary of Warcraft ? "Farming creatures for hours and hours" ? No wonder you don't like the game buddy.

[@Krysdavar]

Herp hai gais, this video was uploaded in October, 2010 Derp.

[@Lundvalnaden]

professional chinese gold farmer ?? he does nothing lol. he's not farming, he's not selling, he's not hacking. he's just a kid who knows chinese so he googled their ebay, found out they have low prices, and called american sites to buy from chinese but to give him a profit. LOL he sucks

[@Eddprzz]

lol how does he suck he does nothing but makes a little bit off every transaction done between the Americans and Chinese

[@Lundvalnaden]

Eduardo Perez he sucks because he's not a "profesional chinese gold farmer". he's just using chinese ebay and connects people.

[@pwenkojammy2894]

"Smart" is not a unit of currency

[@pwenkojammy2894]

That would make it a resourse. And using it to whatever capacity one wishes is entirely the freedom of the individual.

[@freezxng_moon]

2016 what is a clickbait title?

[@Casnazer]

Welcome to the land of supply n demand. Don't hate the player ladies.

[@Bulletfacial1]

There was something on TV about it. Well it was about starcraft, but WoW is probably no different. Actually I think it was on manswers. Anyways it said that the "farmers" have servants bring them food 3 times a day, they sleep for 8 hours and do it all day.

[@epsleon]

I've sold gold. I've never botted, hacked or stolen anyone's account. There are "legitimate" RMTs.

[@MrWileno]

how do you get the quality you have in your vids with 360p?

[@LawlessNate]

1: I have no clue what game you are talking about. 2: Bots increase the supply, the prices fall. This means the people who gather resources gain less gold then they would have if the bots didn't exist. With more currency in the system, the economy becomes inflated. Sort of like the US dollar.

[@gepadat2k10]

But it is. It so totally is and we can't do anything about it. Communication has always been and will continute to be a problem.

[@roederlicous]

Self proclaimed king. Anyone who has to self proclaim is not what they want to be.

[@cosanostra4229]

19:20 There are a lot of factors you need to take into consideration when thinking about this stuff. Mainly it is the longevity of the subscribers actually playing the game, people may lose interest if in game currency is as easily obtainable as buying from some Chinese broker company. A lot of the "hours of game play" comes from obtaining in game currency. Developers also run the risk of their players getting scammed by fraudulent organizations. Now i haven't heard the kid answer the question but I feel that yes they can benefit from allowing this type of activity to go on but they run certain risks in doing so. And like the kid said developers can compete with these companies buy developing micro transactions in their games.

[@Schlumpfpirat]

What's the URL he spelled at the end? Around 38:20 Can not really understand it :/

[@Bigrat95]

2 step mobile authenticator kills everything

[@itspheno]

say you change your password on one of these fansites (the site that would typically get the email and password database hacked and copied). do websites save your old passwords in the database as well as your new, updated password??

[@ELDM2092]

When he looks down is he reading stuf..??!lol

[@SkyFellSlow]

Why are you guys so disgusted? He's a human being, just like us, trying to make a living. I don't support RWT or his business but I think he deserves respect for building something out of his own money, and spare time. It's like a shop for him that he runs.

[@TheEchoingCalm]

You're not only dumb, you're done. Priceless. Great video.

[@Rocksolid88]

neither.. he says in the clip that it's kind of like an auction system, where thousands of farmers offer their gold, when intermediaries (people who buy from source and sell to customer - "the middle man") broadcast their orders, which they got from the websites that gamers go to for gold. Webpage X yells "I have an order for 10k gold on game Y", this guy says "i'll get the gold for you" and goes to the farmers and yells "10k gold on game Y!", after which the actual farmers go "i'll do it!!".

[@David-bz7pi]

I kinda want to hate people like this, but part of me is also surprised by how "clever" it can be as well. While I hate it about humanity, he's right by saying that "if I don't provide it, others will". That's very true, unfortunately, very true. I've seen farmers really ruin the game, especially when trying to gather materials for your own use.

[@MachetePanda]

I like gold farmers. I work 12 hours a day and have about 4 hours of play time per week. For me to compete in-game and have fun against these little kids that are playing 12 hours a day, I need to use my working time money to get gold where while the kid is playing, I'm working. To me its a fair trade. In fact, I would argue AGAINST anyone complaining about gold and plays 12 hours a day, THAT is just as 'unfair' to people that have lives.

[@NizzzaB]

How many people changed their password after watching this?

[@undifusion]

This guy is a great interviewee!

[@CamelsInAustralia]

He must be doing well right now.

[@bourky93]

call it luck but it's his smarts that landed him into that "right place" at the "right time". %100 luck fails %100 of the time.

[@cyraxe_]

My only problem with companies that provide the services in this video is the in game spam whether it be in game mail, whispers/tells or general/trade/city chat channels. It's so annoying that you have to use chat filtering addons in games that support addons just to combat all the spam.

[@Iambloodcrazy123]

Blizzard Entertainment remains a separate entity with independent management, uninfluenced by Activision.

[@profo4544]

He came a long way since he was a little shit back then. But hes legit, atleast business wise.

[@Jezaah]

What is the documentary that he is in ?

[@TheNielCodex]

No. Buying gold is against the terms of agreement and if the company doesn't deliver, or say Blizzard notices you bought gold and takes it from you there is nothing you can do. It's at your own risk.

[@thefoodiechannelcookingfro1822]

Whats happened to Shattered Crystal! site down not heard anything about them for weeks/months now!

[@brutal-noodle]

very interesting interview. great watch.

[@doggins]

I want to know how authenticators and the dwindling community due to MoP has affected this guys business

[@DarkRave36]

The time when runescape had the least gold farmers was when free trade was removed and that made the population of players decrease but goldfarms almost completely disappear then when it was brought back alot of people came back but goldfarmers made a massive comeback aswell. and now since the EoC is released alot of players didnt like that update but its also fucked up goldfarmers since the economy has basically collapsed. thus making the EoC the best thing that happened to Runescape

[@cheezit92]

Smart as hell~!

[@Dreamagain11]

Very interesting stuff, Don't play MMO's anymore because I find them extremely boring but it's cool to see how someone has made a career out of something like this.

[@Ivanejsing]

Because he will not state that he is only "attacking" WoW.

[@exod4]

He graduates at 22 after doing an undergrad and a masters. That's just 4 years. That's the normal in the UK. How does that count as aggressive?

[@AerodynamicAlex]

Undergrad is usually 4 and masters is 2-3

[@TheJamaicanMEmad]

masters is usually a couple year after your graduate, if he did it all in 4 years. mate thats very fucking aggressive.

[@callofdutywordatwar]

No it isnt, if it was, then why would people put up ads of it on popular sites like youtube and i even saw one on battle.net. if it was illegal, wouldnt all those sites be taken down by now?

[@ashmantwo]

25:55 VERY HONEST!!! love this guy.. some might say he's a bad guy but not really imo

[@darkstrikelvl80]

i once bought gold and then got hacked after that, is it cause i bought gold and the website was a scam?? i got the gold but then a week later i got hacked

[@Dre020]

Smart guy.... enough said nice interview !

[@hughjazz4936]

If I were "Firestorm" (I loved that joke of his) I'd not ban the farmers, I'd secretly move them to a gold farmers only server where everybody is just farming all day. Would waste a lot of their time while removing the gold from the ingame economy.